Net Zero: Sooner Or Later, You Run Out Of Other Peoples’ Energy

At WUWT;

After decades of quietly footing the bill for Europe’s grand energy experiments, it appears Norway has finally decided to walk off the stage — or at the very least, slam the door shut on a few cross-border power cables on the way out.

The political crisis rocking Oslo isn’t just about domestic squabbles or ideological posturing. It’s about energy — more specifically, the growing realization that Norway, with its hydro-rich grid, has become the unwilling battery pack for Germany’s failed energy transition. Or as the Germans call it, Energiewende.

And like all grand social experiments conducted with other people’s money, the Norwegians are understandably losing patience. […]

With baseload capacity gutted and dispatchable plants (i.e., fossil fuels) scorned, Germany has become a dangerously energy-dependent neighbor. When the sun doesn’t shine and the wind doesn’t blow, Berlin plugs into the north — namely Norway — and expects the lights to stay on.

And for years, they have. At Norway’s expense.

25 Replies to “Net Zero: Sooner Or Later, You Run Out Of Other Peoples’ Energy”

  1. The Left is a collection of passive aggressives and codependents. It is no wonder everything they do is so effed up. It also explains why so few of them actually change their behavior. Norway will change nothing.

  2. Embarking on campaigns without due consideration of energy; It has always been so with Germany.

  3. I’m old enough to remember when the 45th President of the United States warned them about this…

    1. Historic Events.
      If you ever encounter a German who is willing to listen to your ideas, and adapt his/her behavior because of your thoughts, be sure and write it down.

    2. And Germany laughed and laughed and laughed. That Drump. What a maroon!

      Wait, what? Nobody is laughing now?

  4. The people of Norway should not be paying anything for electricity.
    Charge the idiots in Germany for all of it.

    1. So … I wanted to write a post about how much I have to pay for electricity in CA … as I like to moan on about how awful life is here in the Soviet State of CA … so I researched the electricity costs in Norway and found THIS …

      https://www.lifeinnorway.net/electricity-bills-in-norway/

      O.M.G. !!! Just when I thought the shitshow of electricity and gas prices couldn’t be any WORSE than here in CA … I read THAT article about Noway’s electric charges (sorry). Their cost of power changes CONSTANTLY!? WTH? Who in the wide, wide, world of sports is creating these idiotic systems?

  5. Having sufficient baseload and reliable backup power (not wind and solar) to cover 100% of electricity needs is essential for a reliable grid. Countries like Germany decided they didn’t need that and now have to beg, borrow and steal power from other countries when green energy fails. If Norway and other countries rightfully stop being Germany’s backup power supply to protect their own citizens then Germany is in big trouble. Green energy nations (and provinces) can only work if neighbors are willing to carry the load when the sun doesn’t shine and the wind doesn’t blow. Germany shutting down nuclear plants should go down as one of the stupidest policy decisions in modern history.

    1. I recall being in the Frankfurt railway station and marveling at the electric powered rail system. This was just after Germany being freaked out by the Japanese earthquake, decided to shut down all their nuclear power. At the time, I commented to my traveling companion, “Good Luck trying to run the railway infrastructure on windmills & solar power”.

      1. Yep, the climate change doomsayers said they wanted clean energy. When they also support the shut down of clean nuclear power, you can safely assume that what they really want to do is shut down all forms of reliable power.

        I remember when the green blob initially supported natural gas because it was considered clean energy compared to coal. Once coal plants were successfully demonized then they targeted natural gas. Hydro next? It’s a systematic pattern of shutting down everything but unreliable wind and solar.

        1. That too, eventually. These morons are Malthusian, they are just too stupid to see the effects, and somehow dream it won’t apply to the self anointed “virtuous.”

          1. The deep greens see humans as a plague on the earth. The other greens are merely their useful idiots that can be manipulated to help further those misanthropic goals. Everything in modern society relies on reliable, affordable energy and food. Focusing attacks on both of those have been an obsession for deep green for a couple of decades at least. Al Gore and John Kerry are two public figures but there are quite obvious acolytes in the Liberal Party of Canada too.

        2. Their view is BANANA, Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anybody. This is followed by starving out and depopulating the third world in order to move into sunnier and warmer lands to make use of the sun and wind for the chosen enlightened few. It’s beyond Malthusian, it’s murderous. Let’s call it what it is.

    2. Yup, they are de-industrializing rapidly, capitalists have to be able to see a few moves ahead, they are on the move.

  6. l wonder what strange thing goes on in a greenie’s head, like for instance the now demoted s gill boat FORMER cab minister, how is it the common sense stuff is constantly filtered out? what kind of ‘math’ is happening that their schemes always fall short, but they just barge ahead anyway, shutting down nat gas generating capacity, blowing up dams like mewscum in californicate, what what in gawds name is the infantile view that so many of them in very high places exhibit and follow? its like they figure ‘well, some miracle will happen and save us from the dead end street we have now’.

    puzzling. what isnt as much, is the response from the brainwashed masses clucking about wind energy.

  7. When people who believe the BULLSHIT in the bible, can’t grasp why others believe the green theology, I find that incredibly stupid!

    NME666

    1. Nor the LGBTQueer theology either … Right NME? BELIEVE!!! that man is a woman … or we will CANCEL you and banish you to HELL!!! Speaking of the religious fervor of radical Islam …

  8. Merkel’s decision to shut down German nuclear power after the Fukushima accident was one of the most catastrophically bad decisions I have ever seen.

    And it was entirely forseeable. The second she announced it, much of the world knew it was a terrible idea.

    1. Germany has a history of catastrophically bad political decisions. It made a dreadful mistake in July 1914. That was only capped by its disastrous election of National Socialism in 1933.

      And like those ones, German energy policy results were entirely predictable. The country’s largest manufacturers are shutting down German operations. What we are seeing now is the de-industrialization of what was once Europe’s greatest industrial power. What Allied bombs did not do in WW2, Merkel and Schroeder’s energy policies are doing. Germany may be a rich country now, but that will come to an end. We may well see the same flood of emigration out of Germany as happened in the mid-19th century.

    2. I would argue that Merkel’s letting in millions of unassimilable muslims was even worse. But that Merkel was the second worst German chancellor in that benighted country’s history is etched in stone.

    3. It depends on what their goal is, and we don’t know what their goal is.

  9. Germany is one of, if not the very best of bureaucratized countries. They have a paper for every damn thing to the minute detail. They also are the most efficient at it.
    The problem, of course is, that the bureaucrats are not responsible for their actions, so every kind of bullshit they come up with is ok until it’s not, no consequences what so ever, just carry on.

  10. I suppose that if a country is willing to essentially give away their energy resource at virtually no cost then people will eventually become impatient.

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