Take your time. No rush. Don’t forget to check if the vehicles meet California emissions standards. And BTW shouldn’t these be electric fire trucks?
Oregon State Fire Marshal- Oregon strike teams arrive in Southern California, begin work on Palisades Fire
Before arriving in Southern California, the teams completed a routine safety check with CAL Fire in Sacramento. These inspections ensure all engines on an emergency scene are equipped, mechanically sound, and able to respond. This ensures our number one priority of a safe deployment for our firefighters.
“The vehicle safety check process was critical for our teams. With moving this amount of equipment and firefighters, safety has to be our highest priority,” OSFM Agency Administrator Ian Yocum said.
There should be way more fires. Make that firings!
How eff’n stupid are the bureaucrats and the people who hire them and the politicos that hire those in charge?
How bad does it have to get?
There’s still no water. Did they make sure the Oregon firefighters brought along purses?
Don’t be silly … you need a crack (sorry) team of LGBTQueer Fire Fighters to authorize purse use.
My thought was how will they take water with them.
California assumes Oregon is incapable of maintaining fire trucks.
Joe.
Funny isn’t it. Oregon has plenty of fires.
I’m sure the trucks ans crew are ready. Granted the new Governor is doing all she can to DEI these departments, and turn them in Cal fire.
Just wait!
Don’t be shocked when the California Department of Revenue sends the Use Tax bill for the equipment to Oregon.
I particularly like the pictures of guys sitting in chairs doing paperwork in front of a stage, and standing in groups having meetings. That’s how you really get after a fire, boys!
I guess it’s racist to assume the crews will look after their own equipment? Like they’re supposed to?
“I particularly like the pictures of guys sitting in chairs doing paperwork in front of a stage, and standing in groups having meetings. That’s how you really get after a fire, boys!”
Just try to find any information on exactly how long they were delayed, using any of the common search engines…it’s pretty well hidden.
I still say the proper response would have been to *turn around* and go back to Oregon when confronted with the demand for inspections. “Do you have an ongoing emergency here, or not? What part of ‘EMERGENCY’ do you not understand?”
Bureaucrats. Utterly useless functionaries.
I’m old enough to remember when government workers were paid LESS than the Private Sector. Read it and then consider these grotesquely overpaid “First Responders” Will all retire at age 50 and start collecting 90% of the top, spiked, salaries in pensions FOR LIFE … then get rehired at an even higher salary by the same Fire Dept.
https://transparentcalifornia.com/salaries/2022/los-angeles/ … and that’s 2022.
Stop calling them Heroes or First Responders … esp. now as more stories emerge of homeowners telling tales of Fire Fighters absolutely NOT fighting any fire in their neighborhood.
Let’s see how good this prediction is:
Down the road you are going to have large residential areas filled with burned out structures. Many of these property owners are going to try and recuperate at their own pace. Whether it be finances, availability of contractors, applicable regulations that were not grandfathered into their original homes or the like, there are going to be delays….long delays in rebuilding.
Here’s my prediction. The Municipalities (backed up by the State Government) are going to start selectively condemning properties. The municipalities will then get an overpriced contract with outside contractors and go in themselves and start doing the demolition. California law tacks these contractor costs onto the property tax bill. It’s going to force a large number of home owners to sell their land. The city is going to have a rather questionable relationship with developers who will get wind of who’s selling and swoop in to pay at deflated prices…..and PRESTO…the gentrified Palisades and the Hills end up with mass apartment housing for the great unwashed.
I’d be happy to prop up a tent there! I hear the views are amazing!
Sad to hear that the homeless remain homeless!
Anyone in Pacific Palisades who is homeless without a mortgage will be partying until dawn.
Build apartment blocks that make both Soviet tenements and Thatcher flats look like elegant housing in comparison.
The debris left over is considered hazardous waste, and thus only a few connected contractors are permitted to collect it and dispose of it.
They also need a place to build the athletes village for the 2028 Summer games in LA
I suspect the Olympics will be held in Pacific Palisades.
File under the category of elections have consequences … Two days after Gavin Newsom survived a recall effort and was re-elected … he signed a Bill that ELIMINATED all single family zoning throughout CA.
https://californiacitynews.org/2021/09/california-says-goodbye-single-family-zoning.html
So all those beautiful single family neighborhoods with beautiful homes and landscape? … every one of those burned out (formerly) single family lots in PP and Malibu can now be rebuilt with FOUR units … A duplex+2 ADU’s … and in some cases +2 more Junior ADU’s for 6-units per site.
And there’s NOTHING anyone can do about it. It’s State Law, thank you Gavin Newsom and that vile LGBTQueer – Scott Weiner. Just imagine the next car pileup when 4x the number of cars are jammed onto those small 1920’s neighborhood roads.
From all companies:
“Safety is our no. 1 priority”
Equals “insurance costs and lawsuit minimization are our priorities”, not customers. Thank you to all flick ing government regulators for ruining our lives.
Apparently insurance companies do not like what CA is doing and refuse insurance for that type of fire. Oh well.
It’s okay. FEMA is there I believe. With those $700. US ($1100. cdn) checks.
The Insurance Commissioner of California (CA IC) already flexed his bureaucratic muscles. He’s issued an order that disallows any insurance companies to cancel or non-renew policies in the state for the next full year (which is going to lead to an interesting court case). Since 1988, the CA IC has to approve each and every non-renewal or cancellation. This was a referendum vote by the people.
Additionally, in California, an insurance carrier cannot increase their premium rates without the approval of the CA IC. So, essentially, California was NOT a friendly place to write insurance policies before the fires. It just got a lot less (and unconstitutionally) friendly to carriers. Two guesses what the Insurance carriers do next, and first guess doesn’t count. Insurance carriers were already vacating the state. The exodus is about to speed up.
He flexed his muscles in a way that is going to annoy a lot of people, who are about to find out that they cannot cancel their insurance policies, and will have to continue to pay for insurance on the smoking pile of rubble as if it was the house.
Six figure salary bureaucrats must get in the way to justify their existence.
Unless fire burns differently in California than it does in Oregon?
Have you make sure all of the equipment is CARB compliant, including the trash pumps that have 2 stroke motors.
Firefighters without fires, like soldiers without war, fill much of their shifts with maintenance and training.
That electric fire truck has a “3.0 Liter 300HP 6 Cylinder BMW Clean Diesel Engine” as a backup. I wonder why…?
Because it can travel 120 miles on it’s battery, but do nothing when it gets there because the pump will drain it’s batteries too quickly?
“Firefighters without fires, like soldiers without war, fill much of their shifts with maintenance and training.”
Except in the major cities, where they spend most of their time answering calls for chest pains or drug overdoses.
“That electric fire truck has a “3.0 Liter 300HP 6 Cylinder BMW Clean Diesel Engine” as a backup. I wonder why…?”
Are they Plug-in Hybrids, or diesel-electric?
Safety of firefighters : highest priority?
Like moden policing eh?
The safety of policepersons must be the highest priority.
I presume pay does not reflect occupational risk.
Yes bye, turn down help because you are as dumb as bag of rocks. I got nuthin, they can all die for all I care.
Ya, I want to show the greenies all the videos of the firetrucks, water bombers, helicopters, ambulances, bulldozers, tow trucks ++ running on high energy density gas and diesel fuels. Guess what those electric firetruck carry around with them:
3.0 Liter 300HP 6 Cylinder BMW Clean Diesel Engine
Everyone with a fragment of brain knows those imbeciles were doing emissions checks, and that’s all.
I once had to deal with some Montana dept of environmental quality senior officials, re a proposed gas drilling location my company was planning in SE BC. They wanted to know how much emissions there would be from the drilling rig’s diesel engine. They wanted to know how it would affect air quality in Montana.
Our project environmentalist lost it and blurted out, “For Christ’s sake it will be less than one tour bus traipsing through Glacier National park!”
I said I’d be happy to provide the data. We had very sophisticated, state of the art gaseous dispersion modelling software, which had been extensively calibrated from flaring sour gas. It was ridiculously easy to do. There were lots of zeros after the decimal point before the first number. The number was so low as to be meaningless.
To rub it in, we gave it to them in metric units. They asked us if we could convert it to American units. We said, we could, but wouldn’t, and told them to check with a grade six student.
They also wanted us to describe how we would prevent any rig site diesel spills from reaching Montana. We said the area drainage basin was such that a diesel spill would have to flow 3000 to 6000 feet UP a mountainside, and then flow fifty miles across mountainous terrain to reach Montana. Being an oil company, we didn’t know of any diesel that could do that.
In short they were some of the stupidest people I’ve ever met.
In other words, the Cream of the Government Crop.
Quebec is sending two more water bombers to California.
https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/quebec-sending-more-water-bombers-to-california-after-aircraft-struck-by-drone-1.7171759
Apparently other provinces have additional water bombers and fire fighting crews ready to assist, but Canada is waiting for the US to request them.
Strange there’s no request for assistance.
From the CalFire website I note that the two largest fires are only 11% and 15% contained.
Perhaps the Californian authorities are just waiting for the fires to burn themselves out?
Almost makes you think the fires are an urban renewal land clearing project, so the Dems can build low income housing.
California will likely figure out how to assess the Use Tax against the Québec waterbomber aircraft as well. “You used them in California and that means we tax ’em!”
That’s an improvement over 0% last night
What a bunch of BS. As a retired firefighter/medic for 25+ years.
Bet none of these electric rigs have sent 24 or more hours at a fire. With lights and pumps running.
I love the part about the back up engine. So much for the battery.
Reminiscent of the old saw, “When seconds count police are only minutes away.”
I cannot confirm or deny the story on the Oregon vehicles being held up, but the Oregon Dept of Something told Liz Churchill on X that the story isn’t true and the Oregon trucks have been helping CA.
From another site: Reported that the inspection of the Oregon fire trucks was to see if they had California mandated safety equipment, and that their water fittings were compatible.
But it wouldn’t surprise me if this wasn’t true, and that it was just California DemonRats being their obstructive grasping selves.
OBSERVATION: Funny how much the burned areas look like the aerials of the Maui fire, with the houses burned to white ashes surrounded by green trees.