The nation’s first outdoor test to limit global warming by increasing cloud cover launched Tuesday from the deck of a decommissioned aircraft carrier in the San Francisco Bay.
The experiment, which organizers didn’t widely announce to avoid public backlash, marks the acceleration of a contentious field of research known as solar radiation modification. The concept involves shooting substances such as aerosols into the sky to reflect sunlight away from the Earth.
The move led by researchers at the University of Washington has renewed questions about how to effectively and ethically study promising climate technologies that could also harm communities and ecosystems in unexpected ways. The experiment is spraying microscopic salt particles into the air, and the secrecy surrounding its timing caught even some experts off guard.
“Since this experiment was kept under wraps until the test started, we are eager to see how public engagement is being planned and who will be involved,” said Shuchi Talati, the executive director of the Alliance for Just Deliberation on Solar Geoengineering, a nonprofit that seeks to include developing countries in decisions about solar modification, also known as geoengineering.
Great…instead of lining climate idiots up to catch some lead, we’re letting them f*ck with the environment. This should turn out well…
Well, if you’re going to dim the Sun with aerosols, I guess you’ll need to fund more solar panels to make up the difference.
Me? I prefer to have a team dig holes in the ground while another team is tasked with filling in the holes.
Seems a bit wasteful
Can we nominate some people to be put in the holes after they are dug but before they are filled in?
Agreed, put the holes to use, fill with climate nutters.
Didn’t the experts tell us that water vapor is worse than CO2 for trapping heat?
Yes they did.
It’ll be fine, I’m sure. These are, EXPERTS, peon.
I do have questions such as, why San Francisco? The UW campus in Seattle has a number of buildings of similar height. How far into the atmosphere are they shooting this stuff? What are they doing with the sea water from which they extracted the salt? Whiter clouds? Really? How racist can you get?
I know gravity was invented by some old dead white guy but that whole what goes up must come down thing still happens. Where is the aerosol salt going to land? Nancy Pelosi’s and Gavin Gruesomes wineries? Tell me yes, lie to me if you must.
“Solar radiation modification is controversial because widespread use of technologies like marine cloud brightening could alter weather patterns in unclear ways and potentially limit the productivity of fisheries and farms. It also wouldn’t address the main cause of climate change — the use of fossil fuels — and could lead to a catastrophic spike in global temperatures if major geoengineering activities were discontinued before greenhouse gases decrease to manageable levels.”
every bit of that is a misdirection or lie, and they have no idea what will happen with their experiments, and what damage they will do, because the understanding of the atmosphere is incomplete.
These the same guys that said wuflu came from a pangolin and some trace gas in the atmosphere causes runaway global warming? The guys that promised there would be no polar bears, Arctic ice or snow anymore?
The ones that promised interest rates would remain at zero, that inflation was transitory and that social distancing, vax mandates and masks would stop the coof?
Not a good batting record to be messing around with stuff they clearly have zero understanding of. Kind of like letting a Chicom apologist run your country into the ground. At some point someone’s gotta take the knife away from the monkey.
Children and Chainsaws.
Screwing with a system so complex they can’t begin to comprehend it. The absurd Green claim that “We’re all going to die,” may finally be realized.
Insanity.
Complete and utter insanity.
Has nobody seen The Matrix and thought for one second about unforeseen consequences?
Matrix style human body farm would be more efficient than solar panels
Well, that outta stop the rogue AIs that are taking over the world.
No wait…
I think they have that program to chop down and bury millions of trees underway as well. I think Gates is funding that.
I’ve been assured that chemtrails are a “conspiracy theory”.
Like Winston said above,
So acid rain was Bad,
But Salty Rain will be Good?
Hopefully it falls somewhere other than the grain or vegetable belts
Anyone east of SF want to start a class action suit against these twats?
Maybe they can reverse the jet stream too so the rest of the continent doesn’t have to breath in their bullshit.
No evidence yet that humanity has affected the climate, but it’s a trillion dollar “industry”…
The Climate Industrial Complex.
They are not going to go away quietly, there will need some hard push back and the defunding of all organizations pushing this nonsense. Just think of the money that could be used for real programs.
I remember, back in the ’70s, the earth was cooling. There was a proposal to darken great areas of snowpack using soot, to absorb sunlight and warm the planet. Glad that didn’t happen.
The Wylie Coyote school of geoengineering. A similar idea to Rome salting the fields of Carthage so that nothing will ever be produced in those fields going forward. I wonder how that worked out…?
“Since this experiment was kept under wraps until the test started, we are eager to see how public engagement is being planned and who will be involved,” said Shuchi Talati, the executive director of the Alliance for Just Deliberation on Solar Geoengineering,”
So the “Just Deliberation” will take place after the experiment? More proof that words mean the opposite in lefty world, ie social justice.
A whole bunch of questions popped into my head such as, if this technique is proven effective can the farmers whose crops are negatively affected sue for compensation? Since sunshine is necessary for the creation of Vitamin D are they committing a crime against humanity by making people more susceptible to viruses and dementia? Can the salt be removed from the atmosphere if the effects are adverse? Reduced sunshine means reduced photosynthesis means reduced life in all its forms, can they justify this?
The public participation should involve firing squads.
“We don’t need no stinkin’ vegetables.”
Relax, it is just more idiots burning themselves with magnifying glasses, like the pismire ants that they are.
That said, it is high time to course correct these fooking poindexters.
Quit playing with our miraculous universe. Otherwise, Nature and Providence is gonna bite back.
What could possibly go wrong?
Yes … the world is FAR MORE LIKELY to end at the hands of men trying to “save” it than by anything fossil fuel induced.
ken gee
Butt Snowdon is bad amIrite?
See ya gots to be carefull with critisizing others, after you’v screwed up yerself.
Snowden is a leftist c()nt … along with his mommy. He should never have been anywhere NEAR American Top Secret files. Did he reveal things we should all know? Yeah … but does that exonerate his America-hating motives? No. Sorry. Try again.
RIGHT TO JAIL MEME
This goes on over Phoenix AZ all the time. Did anyone ask us if they could do this?
Billy Gates has been whining about do something like this for a while now. Time to “neck tie the goof!
They have to destroy the environment in order to save it.
Every major environmental disaster is the result of a government policy.
I notice tag the article never indicates which salt it was they were using. They want you to assume it was sodium chloride, but I’ve never heard of that being used for cloud formation before. Hopefully it isn’t something nasty.
The sun is dimming..
Chicken Little told me so..
Time to fire the B Ark into the sun,as more material will increase output..or appease the angry Sun Gods.
And we can staff the Ark with Volunteers….From the Climatology Region..
“You,you and you..get on the Bus”.
Speaking of the sun dimming … what if NASA … the premiere global warmist monastery has a plan to HOLD the moon in a synchronous blockage pattern, shading the Deep South permanently!? Lasso the moon and hold it in a permanent eclipse of the sun?
Al Gore has his hair strategically dipped below one eye … his scarf it is apri-cot .. Warmists are so vain. They probably think this eclipse is about them … They’re so vain …
Human Stupidity knows no bonds!
Using an untested method with unknown side effects against a phenomenon whose effects are not fully understood.
Sure!
Why not?
Hard science reveals that CO2 only absorbs LWIR radiation at only three very sharp wavelength peaks. They are 2.8, 4.3 and 15 microns wavelength. Using the Wien formula to convert wavelength to temperature, those wavelengths correspond to 850, 450 and -80 C. Eart temperature wavelengths around 9.8 show no absorption of infrared whatsoever. Nada. But keep it quiet it would rain on their parade.
I also think that solar panels and windmills could be replaced by turbogenerators that run on methane. They have a small footprint and are almost 100% reliable in all weather. They also do not pollute but produce CO2 and water, essential for healthy plant life that provide us with food and oxygen. What a concept.
Finally, if methane is a fossil fuel moon of Saturn has oceans of it with no fossils to be found.
Meanwhile in the Australian Senate, Gerald Rennick called carbon dioxide the Jesus molecule. As he explains that in order to bring up the temperature of the surrounding 10000 oxygen and nitrogen molecules by one degree the single carbon dioxide molecule must be at 6600 degree celsius. It’s like Jesus feeding 5000 people with a couple of fish he said He gets into the radiation aspect as well later in the video.
https://youtu.be/0swtPnN46Vo?si=uB0vLr0RdlEYHY5e&t=244
Cool!
It’s a verb, not an adjective, apparently.
Have none of these people seen Snowpiercer. So much stupidity combined with hubris is a dangerous mix.
Maybe they could refine their experiments off the coast of China next time ?
Dimming sun in cloudy Seattle is insane.
Process??
injecting a salt in the atmosphere would cause moisture to be attracted, leading to rainfall, leading to less clouds, leading to the sun warming the ground, leading to increased temperatures
What is their logic?
cloud seeding involved injecting frozen CO2 into the atmosphere, acting as a nucleus for droplets leading to rain. How does salt differ except that the saltier rainfall across productive growing areas would tend to inhibit plant growth?
Any thoughts?
University of Washington = Bill Gates
Btw, this is pollution of the air on a massive scale. We need a Clean Air Act lawsuit to end it.
“Fallen Angels” is a science fiction novel, not a how-to book. A$$hats!
In the 1940s a group of engineers were trying to develop an aerial surveying system for remotely detecting metallic minerals like nickel. A transmitter was located in the aircraft (to energize the ground) and a receiver was towed below on a steel cable (to record any response from below the surface). Initial testing was at the Buttonville Airport, north of Toronto. Someone had the great idea of testing the system over the airport hangar which had a metal roof.
On the first flight over the hangar the operator radioed back that there was no response. The pilot was instructed to repeat the test, but 100 feet lower. On the second flight the operator radioed back that they had a response but it was very small. The pilot was instructed to repeat the test again, and 100 feet lower still. On the third flight the receiver coil was flown into the roof of the airport hangar. Such is the curiosity of engineers.
If and when geoengineering gets going, it won’t work the first time. The test will be too modest and the results unmeasurable. So they’ll try again with a bigger experiment. The second test will yield measurable results but not enough to make any difference, hence a third test.
The ultimate irony of human-caused global warming will be that, even though it didn’t exist, it was solved by man anyway. Who knows if we’ll still be around to enjoy the cooler weather.