DEI in the Friendly Skies

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1. Sourced from where? China?

   1. Spirit has been making this fuselage in Wichita for decades.

      Boeing does get some 787 wing assemblies from Japan.

2. Good grief. I couldn’t have picked a better time to quit flying. I’m just waiting for the other shoe to drop and it will. Tenerife comes to mind.
   https://rumble.com/v48qnd0-not-satire-this-is-an-actual-ad-from-virgin-atlantic.html

   1. Oh my God! And that’s real??

   2. I could not watch it, good god society is screwed.

3. This will be the epitaph on the grave of Boeing and the US Aircraft Industry:

   “When people say I changed the culture of Boeing, that was the intent, so that it’s run like a business rather than a great engineering firm.”

   -Harry Stonecipher, Boeing CEO and previously McDonnell Douglas CEO.

   Aircraft, Burgers or TV Shows? What’s the difference, business is business. Push that product out the door. I never understood how screwing up the original manufacturing and then taking the time and extra effort to fix it was efficient? Unless the idea was to never actually fix most of the problems?

   1. Change the culture means removing qualified people and replacing them with ones that check off certain parameters pertaining to gender, race, and personal orientations.

      1. Stonecipher’s actions predated DEI and were in the early 2000’s.

         He farmed out the construction and even design of Boeing Aircraft to contractors and subcontractors, and the lowest of the low bidder.

         There are three major mutually exclusive goals when you subcontract. Cost, Schedule and Quality.

         Boeing has chosen to emphasize cheap planes on schedule. So they sacrificed Quality, and accepted defective fuselages from their subcontractor l. Spirit Aerodynamics delivered more defects than fuselages to Boeing. Boeing did not care.

      2. Devaluing and destroying a firm and a community’s intellectual property and accumulated experience is a very familiar theme in this suicidal Western society. See also, “HIllbilly Elegy.”

4. // “When people say I changed the culture of Boeing, that was the intent,
   so that it’s run like a business rather than a great engineering firm.”
   -Harry Stonecipher, Boeing CEO and previously McDonnell Douglas CEO. //

   And the result?
   // “What used to be a duopoly” in the manufacture of commercial aircraft, Richard Aboulafia of AeroDynamic Advisory told the Times, “has become two-thirds Airbus, one-third Boeing.” //

   And why? [It’s not diversity hires. Davis]

   // So how are work practices at Airbus different from those at Boeing? […]
   consider, for starters, who actually owns the two companies.

   Airbus’s four largest shareholders, in order, are the government of France,
   the government of Germany, the Capital Research and Management Company, and the government of Spain.

   Boeing’s four largest shareholders, in order, are The Vanguard Group, Vanguard Group subfiler,
   Newport Trust Company, and State Street Corporation (a bank and asset manager).

   In other words, Airbus’s largest shareholders are mainly politically accountable governments that must pay heed to such public concerns as air safety; Boeing’s are entirely investors in business for profits. //
   https://prospect.org/blogs-and-newsletters/tap/2024-01-18-airbus-advantage/

   1. dizz knee
      “In other words, Airbus’s largest shareholders are mainly politically accountable governments ”
      You didn’t just post that, did you. Are you really that devoid of information?
      Those governments are WEF shills, and not accountable to the voter/tax payers, and that is why there are protests in those countries, as we speak. Grow up or STFU twit!

5. Years ago, when Boeing was a quality company, it was a running joke among engineering grunts that “Boeing puts Zero into Being”.
   It wasn’t intended to be prophetic.

6. On the other hand Davis, you might have a point:

   // And so there was something unsettlingly familiar when the world first learned of MCAS in November, about two weeks after the system’s unthinkable stupidity drove the two-month-old plane and all 189 people on it to a horrific death. It smacked of the sort of screwup a 23-year-old intern might have made—
   and indeed, much of the software on the MAX had been engineered by recent grads of Indian software-coding academies making as little as $9 an hour, part of Boeing management’s endless war on the unions that once represented more than half its employees. //

   https://newrepublic.com/article/154944/boeing-737-max-investigation-indonesia-lion-air-ethiopian-airlines-managerial-revolution

   But it’s the money, not the “certain parameters”.

7. For those that think the grass is greener elsewhere and that mostly government-owned aircraft companies are the way to go, take a look at the A400M, the airlifter that was going to out-Herk the Herk and go where the C-17 could not. The -problems- with this aircraft is why we ended up airlifting French troops to Africa with our C-17s. It’s also why the Brits bought C-17 and Herk Js, waiting for this turkey to be delivered.

   “The A440M is a complete, absolute wanking disaster, and we should be ashamed of ourselves. I have never seen such a waste of public funds in the defence field since I have been involved in it these past 40 years.” (Former defence minister Lord Gilbert and yes he was admonished for using unparlimentary language).

   But back on topic, it looks like there is criminal negligence being covered up.

   1. Worked with a guy who had escaped Communist Hungary in the late 50’s. He had a saying “Everything government touch turn to ashes” and this DEI mess is an example.

   2. The grass is greenest where it is watered…

8. Michael Crichton’s “Airframe” was NOT meant to be a training manual…

   Seriously, a good book, and you’ll know why they don’t film some of his books…

9. DEI=DIE

10. W. Edward Deming is a national hero in Japan for bringing QA/QC to Japan after the US ignored him .. the rest is history. Seems Boeing needs to revisit Deming’s work.
    https://deming.org/deming-the-man/

11. You notice when you lose a war or your sitting in the dark.. You notice when planes fall from the sky.. You don’t notice the government or front office because they don’t actually do anything.. Built to be inefficient.. Floating on money, not skill..

    To impose that culture on everything is madness..