An 8 year old kid knows what a stop sign is. Jaskirat Singh Sidhu didn’t run a stop sign because the laws governing truck drivers were inadequate. Moral panic is no substitute for good governance.
Had Jaskirat Singh Sidhu killed only one or two when he ran that stop sign, he’d be deported without fanfare.
Perversely, he’s become a celebrity because the Humboldt crash was a mass casualty event. Enough, already. Send him packing.
“Carriers are also eligible to conduct their own training so long as it matches the provincial standards.”
Gee there’s a loophole – big enough to drive a semi through….
I had the license to upgrade my people in the 1980s.
VOWG – You owned a trucking company?
What a terrible punishment to send this young trucker back to a country that has a 6.8% annual GDP-growth rate, a high percentage of Canada’s engineering jobs, an economy bigger than Japan’s and where he will no longer be an oppressed minority.
No, I was a manager for a large company that hired D, DZ, A and AZ drivers. I thought it would be a good idea if we could test and upgrade our own people. We had young men who would have to had paid to upgrade, we made it possible and while I was there no one ever quit or had a serious accident. The government apparently agreed, I/we got the license and one of my drivers had the qualifications to actually do the job, training and testing. We had to keep the same documents as the MTO and the license was granted based on our tests using their tests. Never had a problem with it and our minor accident rate dropped like a stone a couple of years of accident free miles. That of course requires a small degree of smarts.
Sadly, he is like all of the other idiots who run stop signs or red lights.
The problem isn’t training; it’s the impatient, self-absorbed attitude of bad drivers who think that they own the road.
Had Sidhu killed only two people, he still wouldn’t be deported.
This leads to another problem festering in this land mass.
“To call him a criminal is a stretch.”
Good thing he wasn’t wearing a MAGA hat.
What an outrageous statement to call a grossly negligent driver who murdered 16 and injured many more … “a stretch to call him a criminal”. Of course he’s a criminal. A grossly negligent criminal … who should be driving truck in India where life is cheap. Where millions of their citizens live miserable lives … and who won’t be missed when Singh Singh flattens them with his semi.
Hang the bastard 13 times then ship his carcass back to India!
Luckily for him, this guy didn’t get caught up in the Great Bouncy-Castle Rebellion, or some other sort of terrorism – even in Turdopia there are high crimes and misdemeanors deemed unforgivable by the state: for those, the prosecutions will never end…
Got 8 years (6 months per death), and served less than half. Tell us again why proceedings to deport him weren’t started 4 years ago when he went to jail?
(he won’t get deported, and the government and his lawyers will spend years trying)
Tell us why this man didn’t serve life in prison?
Oh, yes – Canada.
JD, the guy has no income,so the taxpayer will foot the legal bill for him.
The RANK Freaking insanity of those who uttered these words:
“They’re happy to finally hear some good news because good news has been in short supply for them,”
“There are lot of compelling facts and it’s a difficult issue because you’ve got on the one hand the level of pain and suffering caused and, on the other, you’ve got someone who’s got a lot going for him and he’s definitely not your normal criminal. To call him a criminal is a stretch.”
There are absolutely ZERO “compelling” Facts.
This POS killed 16 folks – HE did it, not me, you or anyone else.
“compelling facts” who da Fk thought that bit of assholiness up…??
George Soros.??
I don’t know about any of you, had my son or daughter been killed in this….there would be
RETRIBUTION – bet on it.
Insanity?
No, callousness.
Another problem in Canada: moral relativism.
Was it really wrong that his recklessness caused the deaths and suffering of so many?
(“pain and suffering” are rather perfunctory things to say before the excuses roll out)
Now, let’s attack the victims because reasons.
This country is in for some serious karma.
Well I usually agree with most of the posters on SDA. However in this case I disagree. The driver made a tragic error of not seeing the STOP sign. This is NOT criminal. He should NOT be deported, he has a Canadian born family.
Stephen, if you could see the intersection where this happened, you would be at a loss to explain how anyone could have missed that stop sign! It is so well marked and the weather was clear, there’s no excuse for this happening. Arguing about whether it’s criminal is beside the point, anyone who can miss that sign shouldn’t be in a truck, they aren’t competent enough. It’s just that simple.
Then somebody else up the chain of command, like his former boss/employer or perhaps the licensing board, should be on the hook for releasing such a menace on the road behind the wheel of a giant smooshing machine.
He was probably just doing the best he could, being under pressure to do a job and bring home a paycheck. Obviously his best wasn’t good enough but still…incompetence isn’t the same as malice.
Missing a stop sign might not be criminal, but manslaughter is. Don’t excuse the larger crime by pettifogging the minor one.
The stop sign comment is in relation to the new training requirements that came into affect, punishing truckers and companies in Saskatchewan over an Alberta driver’s negligence in failure to obey universally understood highway sign on the planet.
Yep it says S-T-O-P in big white letters on a red background even in non-english countries.
Did anyone ask if this guy can read?
Understand what it means?
Can Freeloader and Flealand invite moar over?
Yup. No disagreement with the overall tone because we know we are all only one government edict away from being smart, handsome/pretty, and happy.
(/s)
My comment was in answer to Stephen’s post about a “tragic error” when the result was manslaughter.
Punish the drivers and also cut down all of the trees within 100m of every intersection in the province. Asinine government.
I drove professionally for most of my life and a lot of that involved oversized and less than ideal conditions. I was always struck by how little the DOT cared about the load or the route as much as your permit or logbooks. When it comes right down to it, it’s always the drivers responsibility to know his job in the end and a permit does nothing to improve safety.
If these new training initiatives were effective at all, we wouldn’t see the level of incompetence that is out there now. I’m on the #1 almost daily and it’s not good. There are far too many poor drivers out there and the good guys are finding better things to do than fight regulations and foolishness so they exit the industry.
The government doesn’t have a clue, and it shows. It’s a sense of responsibility and pride in doing something worthwhile that makes it work properly and the government’s actions just steal that away by flooding us with rules and harassing the people who are getting the job done.
The idiot who doesn’t care will fly right by without any concern until he gets in a wreck.
This precident says that anyone who murders during a home invasion robbery should only be charged for the original entry to the house, not the rape, torture, robbery, murder that follows.
Whether a crime follows one or multiple crimes should not be the issue. His actions lead to multiple deaths. If it was not deliberate then it is not murder. He should face charges for manslaughter at the least.
He received two weeks of training from the owner of the trucking firm he was driving for and… “Congrats, now off you go”.
That’s just freaking scary.
Adesh Deol Trucking Ltd owner Sukhmander Singh advertised on Kijiji less than a month after the tragedy for “new and experienced” drivers.
Well played Asshole.
Manslaughter…mans laughter
I imagine there are very few of us who have not, unintentionally, gone through a stop sign at some point in our lives. I certainly have. And whether you want to call it bullshit luck or the Grace of God, most of us went through the “Oh shit” moment without causing horrific consequences.
“I imagine there are very few of us who have not, unintentionally, gone through a stop sign at some point in our lives. I certainly have. ”
Me too. Last time was just down the road form where I live, where the city suddenly put in a stop sign without the usual signage warning of the change.
“And whether you want to call it bullshit luck or the Grace of God, most of us went through the “Oh shit” moment without causing horrific consequences.”
Only because there were no other vehicles in or around the intersection. Most of us, even if we miss a stop sign, are at least aware of nearby traffic or pedestrians.
The other day in Victoria (Australia), a 29 year-old male got booked for speeding in his mercedes. Three minutes after he drove off from being booked, he ran a give way sign and crashed into other vehicles at evidently high speed, killing five people as of this morning. He, of course, is fine, though.
That is literally criminal irresponsibility…
When you’re looking down at your phone with a coffee in the other hand bad things are bound to happen.
Everyone deserves a 2nd chance. What good will deporting him do?
Any Christians on this site?
Yes. But people forget that, before forgiveness can be bestowed, contrition for the offence/sin should be expressed…
The power to forgive sins was coupled with the power to retain them…
+1
Christian charity is often brought up out of context. Thanks for reminding the viewing public that it is not “free”.
I guess you haven’t heard the truck driver speak. If you’ve never heard contrition or remorse Google his comments.
At the location where this accident occured where no obstructions were evident there is no way that a driver could not see the bus approaching. Even a glance should have enabled him to conclude that his vehicle and the bus were going to reach the intersection at exactly the same time. Any one who could not foresee what was inevitable should not be driving a truck or even a car.
I think the comments and opinions here are mostly very unfair. I am not an expert but think that the pictures published right after the crash do not support the common view on this. What they suggest to me is that the truck did a rolling stop with the driver probably seeing the bus coming but assuming he would clear the intersection long before the bus got there. What went wrong (again, just my guess based on the photos) is that the truck accelerated very slowly, the bus was near its top speed and the driver reacted late, and when he did he veered toward where the truck was going instead of toward where it was coming from. That led to an impact just behind the center of mass on the truck rather than on or near the rear bogeys, and that led to the majority of the deaths and injuries. Had the driver turned the other way my guess is that only the driver and any standing passengers would have been injured or killed.