Ban All The Things!

Oh Noes! Why paper can’t be the solution to Canada’s plastic ban — yet

“The potential impact to the world’s forests is quite devastating,” says Tamara Stark, campaign director for Canopy, an environmental non-profit, noting that the amount of packaging being used globally more than doubled in the past couple of decades before any sort of ban.

“The growing consumption rates that we’re seeing will continue to apply pressure to the world’s intact forests … forests that we actually need to keep standing in order to protect both the diversity of species that depend on them, but also to mitigate against climate change,” says Stark.

“They can provide more service to humanity by providing that function rather than being turned into disposable products,” she says.

30 Replies to “Ban All The Things!”

  1. I’m old enough to remember bringing groceries home in paper bags and being told we had to switch to plastic to save the forests

    but then again that was during the 1st Trudeau mistake

    1. In the 1970s, the polymers in single-use plastic bags were reformulated to break down into monomers on exposure to the UV in sunlight. In 2015, a high school student demonstrated that you can accelerate this process in a landfill by charging the soil with a specific proportion of naturally occurring soil bacteria.

      It is not, and never has been, about the environment. It’s about control and making the lives of the peasants more unpleasant so they remember who’s in charge.

    2. Yes indeed Rick, I’m old enough to remember as well.
      SAVE THE TREES! The huggers were emphatic about that, then.
      The plastic “problem” is one that is overwhelmingly caused and exists in CHINA and other Oriental countries (RACIST!)
      But apparently, again, it’s up to the self-loathing west to solve problems caused by CHINER.
      Stupid is as Stupid does.

    1. Natural selection is an inherent and necessary function in EVERY corner of the biosphere – ours included.

      “… for Nature cannot be fooled.” – Richard P. Feynman

      Just sayin’…

  2. But we can clear cut thousands of acres for “Clean Wood Pellets” and to clear the way for “Solar Power” or Bird smashers?
    Banishment is the only civil solution to Gang Green.
    For you cannot protect yourself from insanely stupid persons,they obey no rational motivation and have no self interest.Or no self interest a logical person might discern..
    Fair is fair..
    They want to ban ,from our use,everything that functions.
    We want them to shut up,go away and get a life.
    Banning them from our communities,is a “win Win’.
    They get to practice what they preach.A small win as they will fail.
    We get them gone..A huge win as practical solutions are not enhanced by the chanting of clueless and useless gasbags.
    And if we surveil their utopia,we can use the footage to educate our children.
    I nominate Coats Island as their future homeland.
    Carbon free and warming ,as never before,faster than anywhere else, where people do not live to expose the lie..

    And as noted in another post,they seek to damage our food supply.
    This means war.
    The enemy within is becoming very destructive.
    Time for them to be “Without”.
    And identifying such is currently easy,they proudly tell us how virtuous their hatred of us is…

  3. Wouldn’t it be in the best interest for the paper companies to continuously plant more trees? Yes, they take a while to grow, but they would be replenishing their stock. Over and over.

    1. The timber companies have been doing that already since the 1930s. For example: https://news.gov.bc.ca/factsheets/factsheet-reforestation-in-bc

      But the forests are being cut much faster than they can grow. BC has had to put some hard limits on harvesting because of it. Wildfires and loss to the mountain pine beetle infestations have added to the problem. At least the amount cut for newsprint has fallen off, with digital news services, but to go back to the paper stuff that was a big part of disappearing forests is just plain silly. It seems that every couple of generations there’s a new bunch of well-meaning do-gooders that, in their ignorance, increase mankind’s problems rather than solve them. Witness the wind and solar power stupidity.

      1. “But the forests are being cut much faster than they can grow”. That is not exactly true. The loss of certain age classes of forests from mostly beetle damage resulted in a temporary increased cut in order to salvage dead and dying trees before a few seasons of decay made them worthless. The cut is now being reduced while local communities with mills being shut down are all lobbying for timber from local areas under license to operating mills further away. The total land base growing trees will, in the long run support the cut and in the absence of politics could allow for an increased cut. Unfortunately, the land base designated for growing and sustaining timber harvesting has been shrinking continuously from the politics and the toxic sociology of Crown land. If the prairies were similarly Crown owned and farmers were highly regulated contract share-croppers, we’d be major importers of grain (Think Soviet farming where 40% of foodstuff came from the 3% of farmland allotted for private farming.)

    2. You mean like Trudeau proposing to plant as many trees in 10 years as BC already does in one?

  4. Trees? How do you spell R-E-N-E-W-A-B-L-E? Everything we do is wrong. In case you missed it, that’s the whole point – getting us to follow meaningless, ever changing, and contradictory orders.

  5. Pretty soon we will be assigned a straw at birth. Lose it, tough 5hit you don’t get another one.

  6. So glad that the bread I buy, which comes in a plastic bag has a cardboard clip that doesn’t work.

    1. LOL. Mine, too. I felt so superior yesterday morning as I flipped the cardboard clip into the recycling bin. Saving the planet, one plastic bread bag clip at a time…

  7. Computers were supposed to reduce paper use. Until we all started ordering on line. Cardboard use has gone through the stratosphere.

  8. So trees mitigate climate change but Canada can’t claim any benefit from having trillions of them to offset “carbon pollution”? Seems like darned if we do, darned if we don’t. A cynic might think the game is rigged. 🙂

    1. Aw, c’mon! Blackie promised to personally go out & plant 26 billion trees. Or sumthin’…

    2. Blame Cretin for that, because he wanted to show that he was doing “more” than the Americans were under Kyoto

      1. “Blame Cretin for that, because he wanted to show that he was doing “more” than the Americans were under Kyoto”

        Yes, that was the only reason he even signed Canada up to the Kyoto Agreement when he knew full well that we couldn’t even come close to achieving the required GHG reductions: he was certain that we would be able to claim our vast forested area as a “carbon sink”. He was wrong.

  9. Stark has been a paid hysteria pimp for the last 30 plus years with the goal of eliminating forest harvesting at any cost and for any reason. Her livelihood depends on results and thanks to Crown ownership of most of our forests she can leverage her (US) funding to a minute fraction of what those forests would be worth to a private concern paying a price based on economic rent for a sustainable forest. She only needs to gin up support from the urban ignorant masses to buy political favour. In BC, forestry no longer resembles a business, it is a political plaything for two tag-team socialist political parties whose latest tinkering has racialized access to cutting rights. The Ministry of forest’s personnel are afraid to enforce regulations if Indians are involved because the BC government isn’t sure who owns Crown land anymore (along with the SCOC). It’s one of several reasons why the largest North American lumber producers are BC companies with the majority of production now coming from the US (like Europe) where most forests are privately owned.

  10. As a forester once told me:

    You have two choices for mature/over mature forests. 1- cut and replant. 2 – forest fire.

    Choose wisely.

    1. As a former professional forester, option 2 could include the possibility of insect and or disease outcomes prior to an eventual fire. The Mountain Pine Beetle disaster originated in a provincial park where no harvesting could be legally attempted as a preventive or controlling measure.

      1. ” The Mountain Pine Beetle disaster originated in a provincial park where no harvesting could be legally attempted as a preventive or controlling measure.”

        I remember that. I also remember when it was suggested (back when the problem was still manageable) that the provincial government authorize a controlled burn, and the enviro-loonies went berserk. The cowards in the government backed down.

  11. First to go is toilet paper, mandatory bidets. Then kleenex and paper towels. Welcome back cloth snot rag.

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