The Narrative is Finally Turning

Baiting The Left Baiting the Right Ukraine Vast Right Wing Conspiracy 136 Comments

Update: For the warmongering commenters in this thread, here’s a video showing more “far right”, “pro-Russian” folks. If my sarcasm isn’t obvious, please know that the previous sentence is saturated with it. If at this point, after 3 years of Covid lies and after many more years of Globalist lies, you still don’t understand that you’re being played with The Current Narrative™, there really is no hope for you.

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  1. Lawmakers from the pro-Russia, far-right Freedom Party have walked out of the lower house of Austria’s parliament during a speech by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy.
    The far-right politicians said they were protesting against the speech because it violated Austria’s principle of neutrality.

    During his address to the parliament, Zelensky said that it was “important not to be morally neutral towards evil” and thanked Austria for its humanitarian aid, CNN wrote.
    The Austrian government also recently acknowledged that, as a party to the Rome Statute, it would arrest Russian President Vladimir Putin were he to visit the country.

    1. Everyone was morally neutral when Stalin starved Ukrainians in the first place and not a thing was said or done when Putin invaded Georgia and the Crimea.

      How strange that people, as of late, “took a stand”.

        1. Thanks to Walter Duranty, the useful idiot..
          “ In 1932, Duranty received a Pulitzer Prize for a series of reports about the Soviet Union, eleven of which were published in June 1931. He was later criticized for his subsequent denial of the widespread famine (1930–1933) in the USSR,[1] most particularly the Holodomor. Beginning in 1990, there were calls for the Pulitzer board to revoke Duranty’s prize. The Pulitzer Board declined to revoke the award and in 2003 said the articles which it examined in making the award did not contain “clear and convincing evidence of deliberate deception”

        3. Fortunately today, everything the New York Times writes about is absolutely true and pure and correct

    2. To infer from what you wrote, anyone who “dares” to want to avoid war and stay out of a conflict that they’re not directly involved with is “pro-Russia” and “far-right”?!?

      Love you B.S. buzzwords!

      1. Hi Robert
        Can you explain on your behalf and perhaps on behalf of others in this community what the opposition is to supporting Ukraine in their resistance to the Russian invasion.
        -Is it a pacifist urge?
        -Is it guilt imposed on you because of NATO expansionism?
        -Or is it resistance to supporting Nazis running Ukraine or a corrupt regime?
        -Is it an anti-Democrat thing?
        – Or is it that there is nothing worth fighting for (see #1)?

        I too would rather not have war. I was opposed to the Iraq war because it amounted to the West invading Iraq. I did not oppose Iraq fighting back. I see the same issue here. Russia has invaded. It is right and proper and the function of Ukrainian government to fight back. And it is right and proper for other governments to prevent Russian Imperialist expansionism – especially if it can be done on Ukrainian territory.

        1. rroe
          ***********
          These two would be a good start.
          Is it guilt imposed on you because of NATO expansionism?
          -Or is it resistance to supporting Nazis running Ukraine or a corrupt regime?

          1. Good to know.
            Because none of those are what happened.
            NATO expansionism is an excuse. Negotiations that led to Ukraine’s freedom from Soviet control never included a promise of Ukraine staying out of NATO. Talk about a topic and expressing wishes on it does not make in an agreement from the other side.
            And there are no Nazis running Ukraine or any of its armed forces units. Even Putin has stopped this bs line.

        2. ” I see the same issue here. Russia has invaded.”

          Yes, but why? It’s a legitimate (and relevant) question.

          1. I’m not trying to justify Russia’s actions. I abhor them, but at the same time, I feel the question must be asked:
            WHY did Russia feel that they needed to invade?
            We should at least try to understand both sides of the issue before condemning one side or the other of hate.
            And that goes the same for Zelensky, even though I will be the first one in line to say that the Ukraine government is a money-laundering, corrupt government.
            I truly do feel sorry for the Ukraine people who are the real victims here. They are merely pawns in a proxy war between the US/Nato alliance and Russia. To some extent, although not to the same degree, the Russian people are also caught up in this mess.
            This war must end NOW! I don’t care how, I don’t care who declares themselves the winner… What matters to me is to end the war now, and pick up the pieces later by figuring out who really is to blame for all this mess.

          2. It’s a legitimate question, but not one that can ever be answered with confidence.

            The decision to invade was made by Putin, and we can’t read his mind. His speeches are conflicted at best, and he lies as easily as he breathes. Trying to divine his true motives may be a fool’s errand.

          3. I think Putin has been quite clear on his reasons for the invasion. His line in the sand was no NATO on his doorsteps. He has also signaled alarm regarding the US biolabs in the Ukraine. That alone would alarm me. Russians in the Ukraine were being murdered regularly in some areas, and the US sponsored coup in 2014 did not help. Now we have the US attack on Nordstream 2. This is a proxy war designed to bring down Russia. I think Putin’s motive is to protect his country.

          4. Why has Russia invaded? Because its 25+ generation alkie population repeatedly elected a fvcked-up midget with massive inferiority complex who came to fancy himself a great conqueror.

        3. The opposition is that we are being lied to by everyone about what went on and is going on in Ukraine. Maybe you can explain why so many who were automatically anti-war are all in with this one or how Zelenskyyyyyy is any better than Putin.

          1. “how Zelenskyyyyyy is any better than Putin”
            Zelensky, leader of a sovereign country, did not attack Putin nor Russia. Putin, (thus Russia) invaded the sovereign nation of the Ukraine and continues to destroy Ukraine infrastructure and slaughter Ukrainian citizens. Alleged “nazi” elements, alleged corruption in Ukraine, alleged persecution of “Russians” in the Donbas region do not come close to justifying such a vicious attack. Should we on the other side of the world be involved is another question.

  2. The German language signs in the video translate to a call for either peace or neutrality, which is a sentiment so far beyond the realm of human decency that the gods of wisdom at CNN really should have called them the “farthest right”. Part of the financing for Nord Stream came from an Austrian company, so maybe they should arrest Biden.

    1. Yeah. Nothing quite says “extreme right wing” like … “Peace” and “Neutrality”. What horrific words, right?

          1. Forgot to add the the /s, I guess.
            It was supposed to be a “Narrative Parrot”. Not everything anti-Zelenski is pro-Putin or anti- Ukraine.
            Sorry you missed that..

      2. It’s interesting to me that the ICC arrest warrant against Putin does not allow any signatories to make any treaties with Putin. So much for peace. It’s not allowed, in this case.

  3. Austria sits nestled between NATO countries and Switzerland, not an enemy in the world that’s going to threaten their borders. Ukraine has no such luxury.

  4. The thing about Frauds … is they aren’t always detected at first. Often, it takes time, words, and perspective to reveal Frauds for what they are. It appears as though Zelensky’s been found out.

        1. That money and arms is going to Ukraine, not Zelensky.

          It is possible, of course, that Zelensky is raking some of that off. Do you have evidence that he is?

          2. The Penis Piano Player who was a nobody 5 years ago, now owns a multimillion dollar estate in Florida and is worth north of 1 Billion US.
            Do you have any evidence of another income stream to support his lifestyle ?

            As in all things in life, follow the money trail.

          3. Prove it.

            Noticed he sacked some of his own after the GOP started asking questions on where the cash is going.

            Show us the records (USA) on where it went and for what.

          6. Robert:

            Just because you really, really want something to be true doesn’t make it true. You need to back up your beliefs with solid evidence — otherwise you’re likely to be a victim of your own wishful thinking.

          7. Well this only took a second His wife is worth 5 to 6 million and he is is worth 596 million.

            Not bad for a broke country that depends on the USA

          11. Evidence is available. I’m not going to dig it up for you. Where is yours? You seem to claim that you have it but all you are doing is making claims. Claims without evidence can be refuted without evidence.
            However, the fact that the US and others were trying to push the borders of NATO to the Russian border after promising to never attempt to do that after German reunification mean anything to you? Speaking of Austria, the world’s most famous Austrian is well remembered in Russia. As is Napoleon and others who have invaded Russia. You don’t think they have any reason to be paranoid? They were pushed into this war, Putin’s actions totally predictable which is why they did it. You don’t have to be on his side to see what’s going on and, beside Putin, who is benefiting by it. Ukraine is the most corrupt country in Europe. What’s Biden been up to? Trump got impeached for even asking about it in a phone call.

          12. Thomas:

            You want to me to provide evidence that Zelensky is NOT on the take? I wouldn’t know how to do that even in principle.

            I simply don’t know if he is or not. I have seen no good evidence that he is, and that’s all I can say. Certainly many of the claims like he’s worth half a billion dollars don’t stand up to even mild scrutiny. They seem to have been made up out of whole cloth.

      3. That he is not interested in Peace. He demonstrated that both BEFORE and AFTER the Russian Invasion of the Donbas. That is my signal he’s a fraud, and a stooge for the Democrat’s Proxy War against Russia. Oh … yeah … and his exploding personal wealth … and his love of the camera and obvious self-love. To mention a few.

        1. Putin could end this war today. All he need do is withdraw Russian troops from all Ukrainian territory.

          1. It’s apparent that you have no idea what led up to this and what is actually going on.

          3. “Putin could end this war today. All he need do is withdraw Russian troops from all Ukrainian territory.”

            That’s the ‘argument’ of a teenager with no life experience.

            Zelensky could end it too…why doesn’t he? Does he not care how many of his people die? Or is he too addicted to all the money, fame and attention he is receiving?

          4. Fred:

            Zelensky does not end the war today because there’s only two ways to do it: (1) surrender or (2) cede territory to Russia. He finds both unacceptable.

            And I agree with him on that. Putin might win, but there won’t be much left of his army when he does. At a minimum, he won’t be conquering any more sovereign nations for a while.

      4. Back in January/early February, his wife took a 40,000 British Pound shopping trip to Paris. When I read that, it was further vindication that Zelensky and the Ukrainians were frauds.

      5. Marmot: that the media and ruling class tell us how good he is and that we must support him at any cost.

        1. I never said Zelensky was “good”, and I have no delusions that Ukraine is a perfect country.

          I am very certain, however, that Putin is a murderous tyrant who is attempting to annex a sovereign nation, and is now directly responsible for tens of thousands of deaths in Ukraine.

          The best thing the world could do is destroy his army, letting Putin know that Russian imperialism is done.

          2. Your comments are the perfect example of how we are supposed to view this thing if the legacy media and its masters have their way. They depend on you never looking beyond their narrative at, you know, anything resembling facts.

          3. “Your comments are the perfect example of how we are supposed to view this thing if the legacy media and its masters have their way.”

            Except sometimes the media is right. The trick is not to believe or disbelieve them, but to ask if their facts and reasoning are sound. On Ukraine, they mostly are.

            To reflexively disbelieve the media is as big a mistake as to reflexively believe them. The goal here is to get at the truth, not to side with or against any media or person or political viewpoint.

          4. You don’t have to say it – you support media ruling class 100% because you support thier narratives and actions.

          5. “You don’t have to say it – you support media ruling class 100% because you support thier narratives and actions.”

            To reflexively take the opposite stance as the media is to make yourself as much a puppet of theirs as those who reflexively believe them.

          6. Well, let me see. They’ve lied about COVID, the efficacy of masks, the safety and efficacy of vaccines, need for lockdowns, election fraud, climate change, Jan. 6, Antifa, BLM, crime, the border but yeah, they’d never lie about this. Look, neither of us know what’s going on in Ukraine but I know they’re liars because they lie about everything.

          7. “The best thing the world could do is destroy his army, letting Putin know that Russian imperialism is done.”

            So, Canadian troops *on the ground*, fighting and dying in Ukraine? Yes or no?

          8. Fred:

            The answer is no. Neither Canada nor NATO is being attacked, and we can not sacrifice troops in every war that breaks out around the globe, no matter how much we may favor one side.

            But supplying arms and equipment is very doable. And it’s extraordinarily cheap, given how much NATO countries have spent on defense against Russia over the last 75 years.

      6. All that money and equipment. No accountability. Getting rid of his critics. Refusing any negotiations, while his countrymen are dying. I cannot think if any reason to trust Zelensky

        1. Negotiation is futile when you know that there will be no deal forthcoming that is palatable.

          Zelensky’s offer is this: every last Russian soldier leave Ukrainian soil now. Putin doesn’t need to negotiate to act on that.

  5. The complete and total moral bankruptcy of the pro-Putin right is sad but not surprising. Ukraine is far from a perfect country but they did not deserve to have their country attacked by psychopathic despot who thinks nothing of killing of hundreds of thousands of people to boost his ego. Anyone with a willingness to understand what is going on knows the “NATO-caused-it” is complete BS and not supported by any facts. Putin attacked because he wants to completely control Ukraine like he controls Belarus – full stop. No promises made by NATO could have given him that.

    Calling for a peace that simply allows the Russians to keep the land they stole is no peace – it just ensures decades of war. The only path to peace is for the Russians to leave Ukraine. Anyone who claims to want peace but does not firmly and clearly state that peace requires a Russian withdrawal is either a Russian mouthpiece or a naive fool.

        1. Thats only a retreat, still in Ukraine.
          As long as they retain Crimera they stay, good luck removing them .

      2. Yes, we mustn’t say nasty things about one of the most murderous corrupt tyrants in the world. It might hurt his feelings.

        1. Nice spin. Yeah yell at Putin. Most of the world hates him too.
          But that’s not the issue, is it

    2. allan G
      And the BULL strikes again!
      Maybe the NAZIS should leave the Ukraine first.
      And get rid of ALL the biolabs.

    4. “The only path to peace is for the Russians to leave Ukraine. ”

      Not going to happen. What is your Plan B?

      1. Let the war burn itself out; support Ukraine as long as they’re willing to fight and then negotiate with the next Russian regime (the current one is untrustworthy).

        1. “Let the war burn itself out; support Ukraine as long as they’re willing to fight and then negotiate with the next Russian regime (the current one is untrustworthy).”

          Presupposes that Putin will be going somewhere. He won’t be, sorry…try again.

          How many dead Ukrainians is too many, for you?

          1. Don’t worry, he will be. His grip on the Russian population is far from absolute. Better ask yourself, how many dead Russians is too many for them to continue attacking Ukraine?

          2. Fred, there’s no point asking that question to these wankers. They want more dead Ukrainians. More, more, MORE! There can never be enough.

  7. On 24 February 2022, the Russians attacked Ukraine outright and attempted to seize Kyiv and topple the Ukrainian government. By doing this, they elevated what had been viewed by many as something of a regional, post-Soviet spat over the Donbas and Crimea into an international showdown. The Russians made themselves the international “bad guys” overnight and they only have themselves to blame.

    Their invasion has been an abject failure, and has exposed them as both incompetent and duplicitous. If there is any “fraud” in question here, it’s Russian fraud. If there is any “dancing dictator” involved here, we all know who he is.

    And he is not the president of Ukraine.

    1. JJM
      Get to the truth. The USA/CIA engineered this fiasco .
      Even a top EU politician/ bureaucrat stated that they have been at war with Russia since 2014. He stated that TWICE now. And then there is the velvet “revolution” of 2014!

      1. Obama strikes again, just like the mess he made in Libya.
        How many people know that Libya is now a (black) slave trading country. Yea obama did that.

        1. I am sure that there are a few white slaves traded, mostly women , worth much more especially the blond blue eyed ones.

      2. “The USA/CIA engineered this fiasco”

        No doubt acting under the orders of the lizard people and the Freemasons.

  8. Has Zelensky suppressed the news in that country. From what we have learned YES. Has he suppressed the other political parties. Yes.

    Can we really trust our own MSN to tell us what is really going on there. No!

    Like it or not. The USA is broke and how long should we keep pumping cash into this war, because Putin is still funding his war with cash.

  9. Awesome. Now can I get back some of the $100 billion plus the Biden crime family and Democrat party has laundered through this corrupt hellhole the last year?

  10. Like wars throughout history this war is a war of ideals. The Ukrainian/NATO/Americans want to advance the globalist/leftist/tyranny while Russia wants to let people live in peace in their homeland. Ukrainian Nazis under the direction of the US were ‘ukrainianizing’ Ukraine by eliminating any Ukrainian who did not speak Ukrainian as their mother tongue. For comparison if Ontario began killing francophones in Quebec because the francophones in Quebec didn’t speak English. The Ukrainian Nazis killed about 16000 Russian speaking Ukrainians before Russia stepped in. In the mean time Ukraine was a well paid whore who laundered money for the US and allowed US bioweapon labs to operate freely in Ukraine. All that to say that Ukraine is the leading edge of globalism and all the evils that entails. Russia is the leading edge of Independent Nation States and all the good that entails.

    Just an interesting sidelight. I watched a video last night about a former US army vet that developed PTSD while serving in Afghanistan. In an attempt to escape the demons of his disability he moved to Siberia. The video was about his life there in the last year. He showed the grocery store full of fresh produce much of it from the US. He showed happy peaceful people going about their every day existence in peace. He said that in the US he was slotted into an ever more tightly defined grouping based on his ethnicity and political affiliation etc etc etc. He said that he has never encountered that kind of warfare in Siberia. Nobody cares what your ethnicity or your sexual preference or your religion or your….. Such a strange juxtaposition to what we are told by the media.

    1. “Russia wants to let people live in peace in their homeland”

      Wow! Unreal.

      You should do an internet search of all the countries your “peace” loving Russians have invaded in the last century.

      Just to start you off: Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Poland, Georgia, Moldova, Afghanistan, Finland, Ukraine…

      1. All under the banner of Totalitarian Communism as the USSR.
        Now try the Czar Era.
        While your at it compare the British Empire also, or any other empires in history.

        1. Exactly. And let me add the American left … who used to LOVE the Soviet Union … now hate Russian Nationalist Putin. And in an even more ironic reversal of their allegiances … accuse Putin of still being KGB … a key feature of the USSR they dearly loved. Because they love Communism … and hate Nationalism.

          Now … Ukraine best represents leftists Communist ideals. How? Well … silencing of opposition Press, nonstop State propaganda, elimination of opposition political parties, and removal of an mainstream Religion.

          2. Actually, Zelensky banned political parties and churches that had clear links to Russia. As an example, he banned the “Ukrainian Orthodox Church of the Moscow Patriarchate”.

            That’s an important point. I’m not sure if it’s justified or not. If I felt those entities were treasonous, working for the benefit of a country we were at war with, I might do the same.

    2. “Russia wants to let people live in peace in their homeland”
      Sure, that why they carpet-bomb and indiscriminately shell Ukrainian towns and cities, to let people live in peace in their homeland. Loony.

      Mariupol is oh so peaceful now, with nearly 100% of buildings damaged, 10% of people dead and over half of the population fled.

  15. ROBERT
    // Update: For the warmongering commenters in this thread, //

    Precision is not your thing, eh?
    Ukraine’s President Zelensky received a standing ovation when speaking to the Australian parliament
    https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-60946652
    Of course this is after the “pro-Russia, far-right Freedom Party (FPO)” left in order to nurse their “neutrality”

    1. “Precision is not your thing, eh?
      Ukraine’s President Zelensky received a standing ovation when speaking to the Australian parliament”

      Speaking of ‘precision’, when did Australia join the EU? Aren’t they a little far away to be considered Europeans?

  16. “For the warmongering commenters in this thread, here’s a video showing more “far right”, “pro-Russian” folks. If my sarcasm isn’t obvious, please know that the previous sentence is saturated with it. If at this point, after 3 years of Covid lies and after many more years of Globalist lies, you still don’t understand that you’re being played with The Current Narrative™, there really is no hope for you.”

    Apparently supporting a country defending itself against invasion is “war mongering.”

    Well letting Ukraine fall to Russia would certainly end the coniflict, but sometimes peace is worse than war.

    1. “Apparently supporting a country defending itself against invasion”

      Depends who you choose to believe. Ukraine is not the innocent victim so many people here have been fooled into supporting; at best, they are a patsy, being exploited by the west to fight a proxy war…at worst, guilty of massacring thousands who didn’t speak the proper language.

      ” is “war mongering.”

      It is when you know for a fact that they cannot WIN. It’s abhorrent.

      Or are you ready for US and Canadian troops to fight *and die* in Ukraine to drive the Russians out. Yes or no?

      1. “It is when you know for a fact that they cannot WIN. It’s abhorrent.”

        The Russians turn out to be terrible soldiers led by terrible officers. Their attrition rate is atrocious. According to Oryx, they have lost at least 1900 tanks, verified through video or photo. But not all losses can be verified, so it’s not unreasonable to assume that the real number is closer to 2300. In short, they’ve lost about 75% of the number of active tanks that they had at the start of the war, a horrific catastrophe.

        Yes, Russia has vast reserves of tanks in Siberia that they have been drawing on. But most of those reserve tanks will never roll again, having been badly maintained and many looted for parts. And of course those reserve tanks are mostly ancient, more suited to a museum than a theatre of war. And yes, Russia has been manufacturing tanks, but probably not faster than one a day, which doesn’t come to close to replacing losses.

        And should Putin fall from power for any reason, there’s an excellent chance that the Russian army would collapse entirely.

        So yeah, this war is winnable by Ukraine.

        1. Ukraine is a proxy of the West.
          If left to its own devices it could never win a war against Russia.
          It needs the full support in weapons, money, supplies, training , etc from the West.
          So no, on its own it is not a winnable war in any conceivable way for Ukraine.
          But Putin won’t fall , China now has his back and can provide the manufacturing that he needs.
          So it becomes a war of attrition.
          In the end Ukraine will look like the surface of the Moon.
          Who will blink first, The West or The RussoChina Pact.

          1. “So no, on its own it is not a winnable war in any conceivable way for Ukraine.”

            It is winnable by Ukraine. They are much better at preserving their men and equipment than Russia, who views their soldiers as so much cannon fodder.

            Both sides are starved for equipment. It’s not at all clear that China will provide any to Russia. China has its own agenda, and values its markets in the west.

          2. Oil makes the wheels of industry turn.
            China desperately needs it.
            They will supply Putin with whatever he needs, agenda be damned.

        2. “Their attrition rate is atrocious. According to Oryx, they have lost at least 1900 tanks, verified through video or photo.

          How many have the Ukrainians lost?

          “But not all losses can be verified, so it’s not unreasonable to assume that the real number is closer to 2300.”

          Pure speculation. What if all the losses so far *have* been verified?

          “So yeah, this war is winnable by Ukraine.”

          Not even close. Ukraine will run out of fighting age troops long before Russia does.

          1. You have to ask how many verified tank losses that Ukraine has ? You don’t know how to track down that down yourself? The number is 489, or about a quarter of that of Russia.

            Shear number of troops will not win this war, especially given the piss-poor quality and equipment of Russian soldiers. Tanks, missiles, and artillery will.

      2. Fred from BC wrote “It is when you know for a fact that they [Ukraine] cannot WIN”.
        Well, I said you were projecting when you called other simpletons and that’s the proof that I was right.

        Ukrainians have already “won” more than they would if left without international support. I doubt supporting Ukraine is going to let them retake all of their territory (though it’s still a possibility), but I’m certain it will make it possible to end the war on terms unfavourable enough to Russia to discourage them from invading other countries for a long while.

        1. “Ukrainians have already “won” more than they would if left without international support. I doubt supporting Ukraine is going to let them retake all of their territory (though it’s still a possibility), but I’m certain it will make it possible to end the war on terms unfavourable enough to Russia to discourage them from invading other countries for a long while.”

          (hey, nice goalpost move…;)

          They still can’t actually WIN this war. What you propose is not winning…it’s compromise. Which is what *I* (and others) have been calling for for some time, while you and the other Simpleton just want to throw more Ukrainians into the meat grinder in a futile effort to ‘defeat’ Russia. In a war of attrition between Russia and Ukraine, Russia wins every time.

          1. “Compromise. Which is what *I* (and others) have been calling for for some time”
            The “compromise” you’ve been calling for is to let Russia take everything it wants of Ukraine, while the “compromise” I’m calling for is to let Ukraine recapture everything it can from Russia. Do you not understand the difference, simpleton? Also, liar, please quote when I was calling to defeat Russia (you obviously can’t because I wasn’t).

            “In a war of attrition between Russia and Ukraine, Russia wins every time.”
            Obviously not, as long as Ukraine has greater international support, duh. It may have escaped your notice, but Ukraine is now fighting largely with foreign weapons, while Russia mostly uses its own.

            Oh, and stop shedding crocodile tears about “throwing more Ukrainians into the meat grinder”; it makes you look stupid because a) you clearly don’t care about Ukraine and b) “throwing people into the meat grinder” is a description that much better fits the Russian war strategy than the Ukrainian one, but you never mention ” throwing more Russians into the meat grinder”.

        2. Russia has lost more than half of its land-force capability. It will take many years and a lot of money to rebuild.

          That alone should keep the Russian bear in its den for a while.

          1. Not really.
            Russia has a lot of natural resources that China needs.
            They will make deals, Russia may even get a mini Marshall Plan from China in return.

          2. I don’t see China riding to Russia’s rescue in a big way. China can get all the oil it needs from the Middle East.

    2. you still don’t understand that you’re being played with The Current Narrative.

      BUT, you are not. Yeah run with that one.

      1. A certain portion of the right is being played by Putin. They’ve become his useful idiots, regurgitating transparent lies like “Zelensky is worth half a billion” when there is no evidence that.

        I have no idea what’s behind it. I suspect much of it is simply herd instinct, jumping aboard whatever their political allegiances seem to demand.

          1. When’s the last time you disagreed with the viewpoint of those you feel most political allegiance to? When’s the last time you chose NOT to run with your own herd?

            And if you can’t think of a time, you should ask yourself: am I thinking for myself?

          2. “When’s the last time you chose NOT to run with your own herd?”
            This from a guy who continually parrots the “Safe and Effective” and the “Putin Invaded the Ukraine without provocation in a fit of pique because he ran out of babies to eat.” narratives.
            I have rarely seen a more blatant case of projection.

          3. YouSuck:

            I agree with about 80% of the takes on Small Dead Animals. I disagree about COVID vaccines and the Ukraine war.

            How about you? On what topics do you disagree with the take here?

          4. Really???
            That is one of the cheapest “gotcha” questions I’ve heard in a long, long time.

            If I only “run with the herd”, then I obviously don’t think for myself, but if I don’t agree with lots of stuff posted here, you’ll just use that to legitimize your own hide-bound partisanship disguised as “free thinking.”, proving you to be the slime-ball we all know you as.

            Things I disagree with SDA OPs and/or the majority of posters here about:
            Doing business with China, gun control, e-bikes, lithium batteries and lithium mining, people visiting Cuba, education curricula, that’s just off the top of my head.

          5. I’m a slime ball because…

            I disagree with your take on COVID vaccines and Ukraine. Further, I defend those positions.

            That is indeed slimy.

            I can’t help but rattle your cage. You’re so over the top.

  18. So, the narrative is now that is was Austrian “far right” politicians.
    …once again placing the stand with Ukraine clowns on the left.
    Never forget, these people clapped like the trained seals that they are when all the western media and big tech started censoring their news and search results to support the Soros/WEF narrative.

    1. And that the “far right Austrians” are anti semites and Hitler supporting nazis. As soon as you disagree with someone just shout nazi! No rational argument is then required.

  19. When it comes to the narrative, ask yourself, who is more trustworthy?:
    Trudeau, Freeland, Biden, Schiff, Bojo, Soros and Schwab, OR
    Tucker, Ezra Levant, Sundance from TCH, Tulsi Gabbard and Nigel Farage?

    1. I’d get Trump or even Putin to hold my wallet before Trudeau, Freeland (a misnomer if there ever was one), Singh (especially him…), Biden, Pelosi……….

  20. “If at this point, after 3 years of Covid lies and after many more years of Globalist lies, you still don’t understand that you’re being played with The Current Narrative™, there really is no hope for you.”
    Yup.
    Whole bunch of No Hopers..
    “I am Canadian” ..

    “Some times the media gets it right”?
    No they always omit some important detail,deliberately.
    They are serial liars,whom only a completely gullible mouthbreeder would cite as a “credible source”..
    The evidence for the corruption saturating The Ukraine,is never refuted..
    All the Uni-Party politicians laundering tax payers dollars through the region,tell us:”No corruption here” as the cheques flow in..

    I am amused to discover that Dear Leader of The Ukraine,could not speak Ukrainian until recently..Russian being his mother tongue..

    How to confirm this?
    What language are his “Comedy Shows” filmed in?

    And are all our brave patriots of Can Ahh Duh,standing up for The Ukraine,comfortable with our own dear Leaders admission,that Canada has spent more tax dollars,training the Ukrainian Military than they were willing to spend on Canadian Armed Services?
    And now,following the Russian Reaction,they have spent even more tax dollars in The Ukraine,on their military than they have at home..

    But thats alright is it?
    And 4 years back,even our own lying Pressstitutes were happy to inform us of these Ukrainian Nasties they were training.
    Just as the Strutting Perogia proudly wears her Nasty Allegiance..
    To think my dad spent 5 years fighting the German Version of this Scum.

    All Trudeau’s are traitors.
    A Country that elects known parasites and Traitors has nothing to support and no one to defend it.

    Western Exit.
    In the name of Dear Leaders.
    Pierre The Idiot.
    Justine the Petulant.

    What semi sane human would support either?
    Why would you condemn your children to pay the bills incurred by either?
    One was enough.
    And that bill is not yet paid.
    Well except by Western Canadians,who have sent east far too much wealth and opportunity.
    Better if we had pissed it all against a wall,in one long drunken party.

    1. Again:
      When it comes to the narrative, ask yourself, who is more trustworthy?:
      Trudeau, Freeland, Biden, Schiff, Bojo, Soros and Schwab, OR
      Tucker, Ezra Levant, Sundance from TCH, Tulsi Gabbard and Nigel Farage?

  22. Robert, your Update comment is way out of line. You are openly denigrating those who have reasonable opinions different from yours. To do so on SDA is way out of character with this blog. Some of us have been readers, and like myself contributors at one time for 20 years but might not agree with you. So, keeping to the tone that you set may I suggest you sod off.

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