Live coverage of rescue efforts here. Updated feed as rescue efforts get serious.
Update: Both pilot and passenger are safe on the ground.
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Yeah.
My son, who teaches at the high school near there, might have another day off.
Powerful way of stopping the ghost of Kiev!
The Ukes just lost the war:-)))
The average driver cannot operate properly in 2 dimensions, why would anyone think it would be any better in three?
Yeah… I’ve pointed out to friends that, if people fly like they drive, it’s not just anything/anyone involved in the initial impact, it’s also a case of “watch out below”!!!
As a kid, I always wanted a flying car, and I’d also settle for the flying sub of Seaview fame! But, as a ‘responsible adult’, I couldn’t imagine anything worse!!!
Dammit!!!
Seems nobody know what to do about it
“I have a number for you to call…”
That’s the same type airplane that I fly.
I prefer landing on a paved runway however.
Lick o paint and she’ll be as good as new, the rest should buff right out!
The pilot and passenger are safe where they are. The priority is to make sure the transmission lines are tagged out, locked out and grounded. They have to do that for the circuit on the tower the plane is entangled in, AND the separate transmission line circuit on the other side of the tower too. Depending on the clearance distance to the neighboring tower? They may need to deenergize, tagout, lockout and ground BOTH circuits on that second tower too, if the rescue team demands it. If they are using a crane to remove the aircraft, I bet they tagout both towers, and all four circuits.
What is grounding? the hook heavy copper cables to each of the three transmission line conductors, tying them together, and tying them to earth also. Depending on the raw power that could be fed to that set of transmission lines, they may need to use multiple sets of cables in parallel on each transmission line. I have seen circuits where we needed to apply 3 heavy ground cables in parallel, and then to the ground. If the cables have to reach a longer distance to the ground point? You need to use even more cables in parallel to overcome the impedance of the individual longer cables.
All this takes time. Better taking an extra couple of hours to do it right, rather than kill the rescuers and rescuees.
Add in the fact this is our American Thanksgiving Weekend. A lot of people are off, out of the area, and maybe drunk or otherwise incapable of working safely. They may need to call out transmission line crews from the far side of the state with special transmission line height bucket trucks, and lots of transmission line length grounding cables, especially if they tag out both towers.
They should be able to reenergize the blacked-out customers by re-routing power through other lines and circuits. After all, what happens if a hurricane, tornado, or other natural disaster takes out those same transmission lines? In this case it helps that it is a long holiday weekend and loads should be a lot lower.
I see there are also at least one distribution line in the area too. They will likely need to tagout all those lower voltage power lines.
The spokesman also said the tower may have been damaged by the aircraft impact too. It was enough to knock some conductors to the ground.
Tesla, right?
Just sneaking a charge! Cheap b@$+@rd.
Is that what they call fly-by-wires?
^^^^ Internet Winning Comment!
It’s only funny, because no one got hurt, hopefully will not get hurt, but boy, what a predicament!
No problem. Just underground all the power utilities … like CA/PG&E is doing because we can’t seem to control wildfires. We, the ratepayers, are paying for the damages cause by PG&E’s shirking of maintenance on their infrastructure. Lots of money for executive bonuses … not so much for maintenance.
Yeah.
My son, who teaches at the high school near there, might have another day off.
Powerful way of stopping the ghost of Kiev!
The Ukes just lost the war:-)))
The average driver cannot operate properly in 2 dimensions, why would anyone think it would be any better in three?
Yeah… I’ve pointed out to friends that, if people fly like they drive, it’s not just anything/anyone involved in the initial impact, it’s also a case of “watch out below”!!!
As a kid, I always wanted a flying car, and I’d also settle for the flying sub of Seaview fame! But, as a ‘responsible adult’, I couldn’t imagine anything worse!!!
Dammit!!!
Seems nobody know what to do about it
“I have a number for you to call…”
That’s the same type airplane that I fly.
I prefer landing on a paved runway however.
Lick o paint and she’ll be as good as new, the rest should buff right out!
The pilot and passenger are safe where they are. The priority is to make sure the transmission lines are tagged out, locked out and grounded. They have to do that for the circuit on the tower the plane is entangled in, AND the separate transmission line circuit on the other side of the tower too. Depending on the clearance distance to the neighboring tower? They may need to deenergize, tagout, lockout and ground BOTH circuits on that second tower too, if the rescue team demands it. If they are using a crane to remove the aircraft, I bet they tagout both towers, and all four circuits.
What is grounding? the hook heavy copper cables to each of the three transmission line conductors, tying them together, and tying them to earth also. Depending on the raw power that could be fed to that set of transmission lines, they may need to use multiple sets of cables in parallel on each transmission line. I have seen circuits where we needed to apply 3 heavy ground cables in parallel, and then to the ground. If the cables have to reach a longer distance to the ground point? You need to use even more cables in parallel to overcome the impedance of the individual longer cables.
All this takes time. Better taking an extra couple of hours to do it right, rather than kill the rescuers and rescuees.
Add in the fact this is our American Thanksgiving Weekend. A lot of people are off, out of the area, and maybe drunk or otherwise incapable of working safely. They may need to call out transmission line crews from the far side of the state with special transmission line height bucket trucks, and lots of transmission line length grounding cables, especially if they tag out both towers.
They should be able to reenergize the blacked-out customers by re-routing power through other lines and circuits. After all, what happens if a hurricane, tornado, or other natural disaster takes out those same transmission lines? In this case it helps that it is a long holiday weekend and loads should be a lot lower.
I see there are also at least one distribution line in the area too. They will likely need to tagout all those lower voltage power lines.
The spokesman also said the tower may have been damaged by the aircraft impact too. It was enough to knock some conductors to the ground.
Tesla, right?
Just sneaking a charge! Cheap b@$+@rd.
Is that what they call fly-by-wires?
^^^^ Internet Winning Comment!
It’s only funny, because no one got hurt, hopefully will not get hurt, but boy, what a predicament!
No problem. Just underground all the power utilities … like CA/PG&E is doing because we can’t seem to control wildfires. We, the ratepayers, are paying for the damages cause by PG&E’s shirking of maintenance on their infrastructure. Lots of money for executive bonuses … not so much for maintenance.
10,000 miles of utilities at 175 miles per year should only take about 58 years or so.
https://www.pge.com/en_US/residential/customer-service/other-services/electric-undergrounding-program/electric-undergrounding-program.page