Reducing our carbon footprint, one smoldering corpse at a time.
Four times a week on average, an e-bike or e-scooter battery catches fire in New York City.
These bikes when they fail, they fail like a blowtorch,” said Dan Flynn, the chief fire marshal at the New York Fire Department. “We’ve seen incidents where people have described them as explosive — incidents where they actually have so much power, they’re actually blowing walls down in between rooms and apartments.”
As of Friday, the FDNY investigated 174 battery fires, putting 2022 on track to double the number of fires that occurred last year (104) and quadruple the number from 2020 (44). So far this year, six people have died in e-bike-related fires and 93 people were injured, up from four deaths and 79 injuries last year.
h/t Raymond
The revenge of the Pinto in e-bike form…
…and, just as with the Pinto, this is a media-manufactured issue.
But think how safe electric airplanes will be!
I worked (under security clearance on anti-submarine warfare – Red October stuff) with the first generation of Li Ion batteries. We had a special explosive can with a clamp lid for any batteries that malfunctioned. Any battery that started to hiss was immediately thrust into the explosive can and the lid clamped shut without delay. I never saw one go up, but I was warned that it was not a good experience.
Exploding e-bikes…..”The official bikes of Islam!”
Self exploding also……
Allahu Handlebar!
The majority of li-ion fires are from laptops, e-cigs and cell-phones.
The insurance companies, of course, are the first to figure these things out:
https://mountaineerins.com/2019/12/01/lithium-battery-explosions-facts-you-need-to-know/
This 2-minutes hate on e-bikes is pure Orwell.
Give it time. There are a lot more cell phones and ecigs than there are ebikes right now.
That’s like saying a person is more likely to be bit by a yellow lab than a pit bull. Does not take quality into account, just quantity.
The failure rate of li-ion battery cells remains the same, at about 1 in 1 000 000.
This is just chicken little “sky is falling” BS.
Except that it’s been happening quite a lot lately, so …
That’s called “confirmation bias.” As I said, there are way more li-ion fires caused by other things, and the failure rate of li-ion cells is about 1 in 1 000 000. This kind of reporting is like airline crash reporting, flashy and scary, made to get an emotional response, when its the safest form of transportation around, and has been for decades. Tell me, do you think its worth it to make airlines even safer, at the cost of a 300% increase of price? The safety Karen “if it saves just one life” aholes think that’s a good trade off. I don’t. You want a risk-free life? Live in a bubble, wear a helmet and put a cork on all your pointy things. Leave the normal people alone.
HiHo, would you like one to explode in your home? The vaxxes were supposed to be safe and effective, how many have to die before that lie is over?
174 battery fires in New York. 174 x 1,000,000= 174 million. Are there 174 million people in New York? Or 174 million Lithium batteries? Or 174 million e-bikes?
Or maybe your 1 in a million number is hyperbole,
…or maybe you can neither read nor count.
HiHo is full of crap. It is him/her/it who can’t figure it out.
Unless you are in one of those fires. Kind of like dying from the “safe and effective” vaccines.
More like dying in a car accident. Better ban cars.
Your type has wrecked society in most places. In some places, that still have a bit of freedom, you can fly an ultra-light plane without any form of license. That must scare the pants offa cowards like you:
“Someone in my building owns an e-bike! Won’t somebody think of the chiiildren!!!”
Just trade in your testicles for a pair of ovaries and call it a day already.
Your own link contradicts you, dumbass.
First, that article is from 2019. Lot of e-bikes around in 2019, were there? Second, here’s the gem:
The vast majority of battery failures are due to shoddy-made batteries and counterfeits made in China
As I’ve said before, it’s possible to make Li-Ion batteries safe enough, the laptop industry learned that after the disastrous fires and explosions c. 2005. Cheap Chinese shit isn’t safe and never will be, and all e-bikes are cheap Chinese shit.
Most DeWalt and Milwakee, and many Makita cordless tool batteries are made in China.
Aviation industry learned this the hard way – do not use cheaper products, that are usually made in China, but or elsewhere.
Agreed. Also, free market forces work way better than state forces do, but they take time. Nobody wants a Li-ion battery fire, and, as a result, the failure rate of Li-ion cells is dropping. The thing is, they can not be reduced to zero, and the idea that a zero failure rate is attainable is BS, and the various Karens will settle for nothing less, like net zero carbon, zero tolerance drug laws, zero deaths from firearms, 0.00 BAC that MADD espouses, etc. Every single one of these policies is basically just a form of Marxism.
Take note terrorists.
When li-ion batteries get over-regulated, and their price goes way, way up, making cordless tools, cell phones, etc jump in price, you can blame the ever-present safety Karens, the same people who made it impossible for kids to mow lawns for a bit of pocket money, the same people who turned bar and restaurant owners and staff into cigarette police, the same think kids should be forced to wear a helmet when out bike riding, etc. These k*ntz have utterly wrecked society. This belongs under tha tag “if women ran the world.”
It doesn’t matter anymore anyway.
In the New World Order you will have NOTHING and be happy, or else.
Head Clown , Herr Schwab , told me.
The feminization and emasculation of society continues apace.
Well done, Karens!
Accidental firearm discharges cause way more deaths than Li-ion batteries, and, as a result, the Karens want more “common sense gun control.”
The fact that the people handling these firearms don’t know what their doing doesn’t seem to matter, just like the fact that some people don’t know what their doing when they make a battery pack. Just more fear-mongering BS to get the state to “do something.” Of course, education on firearms and electricity being made part of the curriculum for schools is outta the question, fear-mongering Karen techniques are so much more effective.
No, Hi Ho, it’s called a crappy and dangerous product.
Some batteries are, some aren’t. Some people know how to build a very safe battery pack, some know how to build one that is safe enough, and some people can turn them into incendiary devices by accident, just like some people don’t know how to handle a firearm. You people thinking that “something must be done” are the bane of society. The building I live in doesn’t have fire escapes, but the rent is cheap. People like you take away my agency to asses risks and make decisions for myself. Caveat Emptor. As I said, accidental firearm discharges kill way more people. Are they crappy products? Do you even know how to open up a battery pack and tell the difference between a crappy product and a good one? Should we ban SKS rifles like the Turd has done, but because they can go full-auto in a bad way if not properly maintained? Or have you outsourced your brain to the state and the fear-mongering media?
Your type has banned kids from climbing trees in some places:
“My kid broke his neck when he fall from a tree! We must all work together to make sure this never happens again!”
Other places decided to encourage kids to climb trees, so that they would learn.
the problem is when Lithium is exposed to water it explodes with enormous power. Let me tell you again with enormous power
Lithium batters in their early phase were developed in Israel with an enormous safeguard ensure people’s safety. Each battery was checked and checked for unbroken seals. A factory had at least 3 bays that followed the one before where the moisture content we lowered considerably. The example given was in the extremely dry room one new employee was told lithium gave you an extreme high. So filling his pocket, he headed for the bathroom, which the ensuing explosion destroyed. I beliefe that Ikea had the same problem with their customers. Throwing the used batteries down the toilet
There is no explosive metallic lithium in a li-ion battery, just like there is no explosive metallic sodium in table salt.
What have we here?
The Hi Ho Show?
Desperate to tell us all of the things we might not know?
From the posting on renters,I now suspect HiHo and Ummee are the same creature.
The cordless tool Li-ion Batteries do not need water,just a rupture to air will provide tremendous heat.
From a dead battery.
An arsonists dream.
And this wild leap..”This 2-minutes hate on e-bikes is pure Orwell.”
Got an e-bike do yah?
So you are a safety Karen too. We can now say that Canada is done when you too would like to appeal to the state to save you from the evils of e-bikes.
…and yeah, I have an e-bike, a hybrid as a matter of fact. A two-stroke to use off-road where the safety cops won’t get me, and a wee 36v front wheel to take me on public roads, because the cops will come and get me if I use my gas motor on public roads. I’d much prefer to just use my gas engine, but aholes like you and your ilk have made it illegal, and now you’re trying to make my electric engine illegal, too. You and your ilk can all FOAD.
The Moped Act was introduced a long long time ago, back in the early 70’s.
It came into being probably by people like your father or grandfather’s generation before woke or Karen’s came on the scene, in response to numerous catastrophic accidents that weren’t covered by insurance .
Legalization brought that coverage.
You should more than likely blame Ralph Nader , Unsafe at Any Speed , for ushering in the age of protectionism and the EPA.
And as a little aside, during WW2 and the early 50’s bicycles were legalized and you needed plates and tags to ride them in public.
FO. I was drivin’ around on a 50cc moped in the 1980s that didn’t need plates, insurance or a license. You people suck.
John Bosley is correct. I lived under those rules. So why don’t you FO?
Homos like you and your rules, you love ’em, right?
So why are you not driving around now on your bastardized gas/electric moped , running on gas only ?
Afraid thd cops will bust ya.
Your an idiot , live free like the 80’s, nothings changed.
Homos like you are scardy cats.
Live free faggot.
So, you’re basically one of those annoying loons who are constantly screwing with the traffic? I admit you aren’t afraid to take a chance.
I guess you had best call the cops on me, lest you be mildly inconvenienced. People like you are the bane of a free people.
…and to think I once looked up to you as a champion of individual rights, when in the end, you are no more than a state clown. More fool me.
I have proven my point. Cowards and Karens want the state to crack down on anything they see as even a mild inconvenience, much less a danger. And you clowns wonder why people try to make a “safe space” for trannies. You all are nothing but a bunch of cowards, crying to the state to make you safe, just like the trannies.
You should be ashamed of yourselves, but, much like the trannies, you are proud of yourselves instead.
FOAD!
I realize that I am outnumbered and out-gunned by the safety Karens, so all I can say is I wish you all well in the safe space you all have created, but for myself, I want nothing to do with it, and of course, asking you to leave others alone is outta the question.
You little pussywillows would be scared to live in the 1970s, aghast at the 1950s, and terrified of the 19th century, but, of course you’ll all say that we’re better off now, as if laws and restrictions are what made us better off, when in reality, increased self-defense and mobility and energy density of fuel sources is what did it, and now you clowns rail against that, because your all ascairt.
Lastly, its unreal how you pathetic little wimps have runied civil society, especially for men, and sickening how you defend it
Tonight, I’m gonna eat a partridge, with some bacon over it to keep it moist while I roast it, along with some spuds roasted in corn oil with paprika, cumin, salt and pepper. I killed it with an air gun.
Please give HiHo the Heave Ho
His posts take up way more space than they deserve
Ahh yes, the censorship crowd chimes in. You, reddit and the rest of the gang.
I’m beginning to think he’s that guy in town that everybody avoids. Cheap rent, broken down e-bikes, always muttering FOAD, shoots game with an air gun…
In short, the village weirdo. And he hands out advice.
HiHo
So when are you gonna tell is how you really feel Skippy?
weak.
Funny to watch all you panty-waisted lilly-livered yellow-bellied chicks whine about me, and at the same time claim to be men. Spanky or Gilligan are better men than you.
Jeebus you f’n clown.
Go get a shrink and pay him/her/it to listen to your BS.
We aint your sounding board.
Contribute something here thats useful instead of whining.
Shit or get off the pot.
The emphasis on cheap and long range is a problem.. Hate to say it but the government needs to step in and cut the battery power and range in half.. A reasonably safe number exists.. If its 25 km so be it..
I think HiHo has a point. We are overregulated to the point we are unable to make decisions as individuals. I just returned from a month traveling throughout central European cities. They have ‘Lime’ e-scooters available to the public everywhere. Just grab a scooter, tap your card or phone and ride away to your destination.
I get home to hear a discussion on CKNW about e-scooters. Should they be banned? Licensed? Regulated? Are they too dangerous? Too many injuries reported. It was all about what could possibly happen and how we should institute regulations to prevent any possibility of anything happening ever, anywhere, or anytime.
I was somewhat surprised to find that Europeans, despite their propensity for socialism and the degree of publically financed housing, live much more free individual daily lives than we do here.