With Friends Like These

Shiny Pony The Libranos Ukraine 74 Comments

National Post- The incredibly incompetent Mélanie Joly

According to Globe and Mail sources, Ottawa clearly instructed Canadian diplomats to not tell Ukrainian staff about the impending invasion or the target on their backs. They had to learn about both through the grapevine via U.S. embassy employees, who were warned of the danger.

This decision to desert roughly 50 loyal employees, to leave them for death, detention or worse given Russian troops’ well-documented predilection for rape and torture, reportedly came from the top.

Sounds familiar.

74 Replies to “With Friends Like These”

  1. Not the nicest way of wiping out the government’s mistakes, now is it?

    As for Jolly Melons, she’s competent, all right, in what really matters to our grand national horndog.

    1. Near the end of April 1975, just before the fall of Saigon (I refuse to call it by that other name), I saw a CBC TV news item which showed Canadian embassy staff loading their government staff cars onto planes. Meanwhile, there were a lot of scared Vietnamese hoping that they could tag along and, thereby, escape the oncoming North Vietnamese Army. They were told to “come back tomorrow”, at which time, of course, everyone in the compound had conveniently skedaddled.

      Guess who as prime minister at the time?

        1. I’m old now. It doesn’t look like I will ever make it to Montreal to piss on his grave.

          1. As far as cities go, I like Montreal more than any other city I’ve ever spent any time in. London England was a close second before the UK went batshit crazy, but if I had to live in a city, I’d pick Montreal over any other Canadian city.

          2. Hiho

            Guess you have NEVER lived In Calgary…no way, if your picking some ASShole Quebec city…

          4. Don’t talk that way.

            Just watch those vomit-inducing Canada minutes to give you strength, the one where a Vietnamese family escapes on a boat and is granted passage to Canada. They know that they are Canadian when given a toque.

    2. Well, hold on, she is jolie and has a nice pair of melons so I wouldn’t criticize too much.

      And yes, I do write about her thus, because it is true and also to write about her that way, as a public figure, is also insulting.

      I could have a nice “tit a tit” with her-)

      1. You know what we said, in our much younger days, when just a gentle breeze would bring “things to attention”.

        I wouldn’t kick her out of bed for crackers. No matter how well that went, I would still never vote for her, at least not for politics.

  4. Credentialed? Check
    Vajayjay? Check
    French? Check
    No real world accomplishments? Check
    A little photogenic? Check
    She qualifies as LIEberal cabinet material, street smarts and real world success are not required for being a LIEberal lapdog.
    Fealty to the TruDOUGH CULT is mandatory.

  5. She’s there because Trudeau used to spank her.
    And because morons are allowed to vote.

  6. That wasn’t very diplomatic of them. Send the Ukrainian staff and keep the liberal vermin who are just larping as diplomats.

  8. Canada is back, baby!

    I guess this is just what happens when a the descendants of a bunch of cheese-eating surrender monkeys/World War draft opponents/evaders become your government!

  9. It will get them time to get the flag pole fixed. And then the Russians will hang them from it. Progress?

  10. ” . . . given Russian troops’ well-documented predilection for rape and torture . . .”

    You forgot to mention playing lacrosse with bayonets and babies.

    1. Yup. They can say that about Russians because they’re white.
      The media must be so happy that they can combine the current thing with their ubiquitous racism.

      2. “They can say that about Russians because they’re white.”

        No, not at all. Asians are greatly overrepresented among the sewage that flooded Ukraine. Typical Muscovite tradition is to use conquered vassals as cannon fodder. In WWII ethnic russians were also greatly underrepresented among combat loses (although they were overrepresented among those surrendering in the first months of war) – like it is always the case in russia, everything about russian history is a lie, Great Patriotic War my hairy ass.

        Besides the Rwandan and ISIS genocides, torture and mass rapes received similar attention. As they should have, also as the civilizational level of the rapist genocidal horde is very comparable across the three examples.

      1. Note how rape/torture are only committed by troops the establishment/left doesn’t like. May as well accuse them of spreading VD while you’re at it.

    3. “You forgot to mention playing lacrosse with bayonets and babies.”

      That’s pretty much what the Chechen TioTok brigade did in Mariupol, they were literarily cutting pregnant women open.

    4. Also russian “predilection for rape and torture” is indeed very well documented. It is a time honored tradition passed on through generations. It has been inherited from their Mongol ancestors and perfected ever since. From the slaughter of Novgorod, by Ivan the Terrible to the red army rape rows in Berlin and Grozny the Siberian Mongol tradition is kept alive. Even Solzhenitsyn has written how his soldats brought him the prettiest captured girl (does not himself confess to the actual rape) while they were taking turns with the less pretty ones.

      Rape is also one of the favorite russian pass times and one of the reasons why russia has the world’s highest abortion rate.

      1. That’s probably because Solzhenitsyn did not rape these women.

        He made a note of it, yes.

        Report on things honestly or don’t bother.

        Russian, by the way, has a capital R, and rape is a universal tool of torture and humiliation.

        1. Whether he did or not is not relevant. That it was usual practice was relevant. Although I have no idea why you say he “probably” did not rape her. Have you read the same book? Nothing in it indicated “probably” one way or another. What is not questioned is he as commanding officer was fully aware of what hi troops were doing and considered it business as usual.

          Rape is not a universal tool. Civilized armies do not tolerate marauding behavior. Russian army does. There were no mass rapes of Afghan or Iraqi women by American or Canadian forces. When discovered offenders were typically prosecuted.

          Russian has capital R only when starting a sentence. Otherwise it is spelled russian to insult the russians. We have been over that.

          1. Also, why would the soldiers bring him a woman if they knew he was not a rapist? It is not like this was the first time they had an opportunity….

        2. “All of us knew very well that if the girls were German, they could be raped and then shot. That was almost a combat distinction.” ~ Alexander Solzhenitsyn

          1. I may be mistaken but I think I read in Ordinary men drunk Ukrainians and Germans where standing waste deep in pits full of bodies, groundwater, and blood at the end of one murderous bloody day.
            I don’t remember much about any rape, but do remember how one soldier justified killing children. He shot the mother’s first then shot their child out of “pity”.
            They’d point the bayonet right at the base of the neck, so they didn’t get covered in pieces of skull, blood and brains. Some men would come out of the woods covered in it all, and some would ask for another detail to avoid the horror.
            I wonder what I would have done, don’t you ?
            Or does ones residence or race in this world determine adult character when the chips are really down?
            Not saying your wrong, but buy your logic maybe nuclear war will clear the table ?
            I think why your having such trouble convincing people, is that the “good guys” have shown us the last two years they are nothing of the sort.
            Evil lying sacks of shit, and the worse thing they will remain unaccountable , because people will do anything to avoid looking in the mirror and seeing themselves as a serf.
            And I’m starting to wonder where they and if they will ,ever draw a line ?

  11. How many in our Gov., are Quebec-ers. As if they could give a flyinFK about us in Western Hinter land. Or more probable, destroying Western Hinterland. HatchetFaced Maggot ,take a flying leap.

  13. This isn’t incompetence. It’s something far, far worse. It is the complete absence of compassion, sense of duty, and simple human decency.

      1. But then again, why should our politicians and bureaucrats treat foreigners any different than they treat their own citizens?

        1. You mean the foreign foreigners, don’t you? The foreigners who are here, courtesy of Roxham Road, are treated better than the citizens.

    2. Agreed. Leaving them in the dark was pretty bad.
      They shoulda said “Here’s some cash, here’s a sidearm and a few magazines, and the Russians will be here in hours. Good luck.”

    3. Yup!
      Canada’s foreign service serves itself I guess.
      Why were they even there?
      Obviously Joly is cunned stunt, but the people at the mission just can’t ignore the higher-up vermin in Ottawa and do the right thing?

      In less than 7 years the Liberals have attacked or undermined every aspect of what was once a somewhat respected nation.
      And the Liberals still have a firm 30% of the vote and 3 more years in power.

    4. Bingo …… that’s what you get when you teach tolerance as the number one virtue from being able to walk.
      It works !

      1. Maybe or maybe not. Generally pointing out facts does not hurt. And it is not just Libs, the same goes for NDP and Cons.. Cheers. And not just Canada but most any “developed” country “leaders”.

  15. Has Global Affairs even gone back to the office yet? Same feckless crowd that cheered Trudeau in the lobby. The whole department is shit.

  17. For the MSM to say come out with this, I’d say that either:
    1. One or more of the staff are important to implementing WEF policies, or
    2. Some faction or element within the WEF wants to weaken Joly’s position.

    1. GAC HR staff do not maintain notebooks of evil, but perhaps the Minister does.

      If so, I suspect Melanie’s notebook is filled with jealous, hateful text about Sophie. And guilty remorseful text about violently slapping and pegging our Prime Minister.

      #PMofpegging

      1. If you do not treat staff well then you will not get the best hires, your best staff will leave. Then the middle league staff will turn to sabotage.

        It is very hard to keep a good thing going; it is very hard to build a good thing.

        The Feds must be a snake pit. Staff coming to work building dossiers on each other, trying to score a no show or no work job.

        1. Well educated submissives thrive at GAC, the worse you treat them, the better they perform. Bottoms gotta bottom. Add a bureaucratic culture of extreme hierarchy and erudite humiliation. Endure and be rewarded. Balk and never progress.

          The Fed is a den of vipers, with GAC’s pits deeper than most. Many of GAC’s staff could be spies at the CSE, but many of those GAC staff share tastes that make them a prime security risk.

          BTW I enjoyed this comment as much as your posts Fenris!

  21. Saigon was even worse than that. Canadian embassy local hires were offered outbound spots out on USAF flights very early on via their opposite numbers working at the American Embassy. But they were assured by their Canadian bosses all would be fine with them staying/ working there to the last minute.
    Mike Duffy seemed to be so shocked by this ultimate in perfidy he never quite got past it.
    The most obvious thought is our diplos, etc., “preferred” that if anyone was going to debrief our loyal, trusting, local hires, better it should be the conquering North Vietnamese in Saigon, rather than those nosy Americans in the USA.

  22. It appears many Canadians still believe they live in a real country with a foreign service to take care of the itnerests of it’s population. The Canadian foreign service/diplomatic corps is just an ornament, a bijou de vanite as they might say in french.

    Mind you, in the real world, I have wrked in companies which laid people off en masse and we had to keep the news back until people had received it personally.

    1. Let’s put it this way, when a family member was studying in eastern Europe back in 2004 when the situation in Ukraine was getting stroppy, the family’s response was to check with said member to ask how the situation was playing out chez lui and what the plans were should the situation get worse with the possibility of problems spilling across the border. Family member was watching the situation and – with a classmate – was ready to head west if things became problematic. As it happened, Ukraine settled down and family member was able to finish studies.
      The Canadian embassy was notified of this student’s presence at the uni, along with contact information. So far as we know, there was never any contact between the student and the embassy, even during this rather tense time. Actually, the only serious contact with an embassy was with the embassy in Ottawa of the country where the student was studying as there were problems with getting the uni accepted by CRA so the tuition and (in those days) education amount were recognized. The third secretary in Ottawa was great; the uni became recognized and the student got the much-needed deduction.

  24. Does this mean that El Presidente Juston Vacation del Costa Rica only cares about himself?

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