Down The Primrose Path

Everywhere traitors.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy fired the head of the country’s security service and its prosecutor general on Sunday, citing hundreds of criminal proceedings into treason and collaboration by people within their departments.

“In particular, more than 60 employees of the prosecutor’s office and the [Security Service of Ukraine] have remained in the occupied territory and work against our state,” Zelenskyy said.

“Such an array of crimes against the foundations of the state’s national security, and the links recorded between Ukrainian security forces and Russian special services raise very serious questions about their respective leaders,” he said.

He also dismissed Ivan Bakanov, the head of Ukraine’s security service, the SBU. Bakanov was a long-time friend of Zelenskyy’s, according to Ukrainian news agencies.

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68 Replies to “Down The Primrose Path”

  1. One would almost believe that Russia had a PLAN!!! ??? Unlike what’s reported in the propaganda Press everyday about Russian ineptitude. Not to mention Russia’s massive losses of troops, equipment, and Ukraine territory. From what I read in the propaganda Press … Russia lost this thing before they ever started.

    1. A plan you say. You may be accidently onto something. The plan did not work out, but…

      The only way to explain the disaster that was russia’s opening moves in the north is that they have planned on a quick assassination of Zelensky and on filling in the power vacuum. That is why what looked like a completely unprepared operation was launched.

      That would also explain the uncertain and shaky behavior of several Ukrainian oligarchs with ties to Kremlin and the presence of French special forces providing additional security for Zelensky. Something happened, behind the scenes, during those days that we don’t know about.

      Well the plan did not work, now collaborators with Pootin’s genocide need to be exterminated.

      1. Colon is not only a bigot full of blind hatred, but also batshit crazy.
        Hoodathunkit?

        1. Oh I think Alexander Mercouris and Andrei Martyanov have a pretty good handle on the innate racism in the West toward Russians. Every few decades or so, the West gathers a coalition, and has a go at Russia. Of course, they never really win, but Larry believes it is because Russia has never been “for sale” to the Western oligarchs in the way that so many countries are.

      2. Colonialista… That’s one hell of a presumption. I’m sure you have some docs to back up that claim. You would never have gone on record without knowing for sure, right? I’m giving you the benefit of the doubt, because I respect your knowledge in this area.

        1. Clearly it is a hypothesis a presumption. Clearly I am arguing that we don’t know al the pieces. Does what we know fits my theory? Yeah, I think so. If you have a better theory feel free to share it. Books will be written about what happened then.

          1. “Yeah, I think so.”
            R~4 emotionalist twits like you don’t have the capacity for thought. fMRI studies show when the emotional area of the brain is active, it shuts down the logical area of the brain (the frontal lobe). You, scarp,and unDork are out of your ability zone for thought on this topic. You are NOT stupid, and you will never rise to that level.

  2. Taking out the gangster traitor pro Soviet garbage…
    Pity there was not enough backing for this sort of needed action at the onset of independence.

    1. Could be maybe a lot of the Ukrainians weren’t too fond of Zelenkyy’s Nazis and preferred to have Russians as their overloads instead.

      1. You’re probably thinking Poroshenko. Zelensky received 73% of the vote in 2019 and campaigned on a moderate stance towards Russia.

        1. He got that vote count with widespread support of Russian-speakers, on his pledge to implement Minsk 2.0, and end the graft and corruption. The ink wasn’t even dry on his pledge forms when he announced that was all just a bluff, and he was going to crush Donbass militarily.

          He’d be lucky to get 15% now. He is not legitimate. Never was.

          1. Here we go, another Pootin’s bot spewing Kremlin propaganda. If anything the hatred towards russians is now even prevalent among russian speaking Ukrainians. They all ralize that russia brings nothing but miserly, poverty and rule of thug. Russia is cancer and russians are a king Midas of s*it. None in Ukraine has any apatite for Russkiy Mir anymore. The people are probably more united than ever against the Siberian horde.

      2. It reeks more of blame shifting. Failure can never be incompetence, it must be treason.

    2. Yep, shaving heads will not be sufficient this time. Those who collaborate with the enemy need to ornament lampposts. Or like it happened many times already, be victims of unfortunate accidents, probably nothing to do with the activities of Ukrainian partisans and special forces.

      1. Those who still believe that Zelensky is some sort of champion of democracy should give their heads a shake.

        Didn’t he recently arrest all opposition party leaders and amalgamate all the radio stations just so that only his doctrine can be fed to the public?

        Does stuff like this remind you of certain governments in recent history, which I will remain nameless, but I think you know what I’m talking about.

        1. Zelensky is not a champion of democracy he is a champion of Ukraine. A nation under assault by the Siberian horde. A nation that is being subjected to genocide and ethnic cleansing. A nation that Pootin’s subhumans want to erase from the map. His actions are consistent with his position. He has no time to play nice with traitors and collaborators. Any competent leader, defending him country, in a fight for survival against a stronger enemy, that wants to exterminate them, would do exactly the same. Good on him. Hope he succeeds.

          Wartime tribunals should be brought to deal with traitors.

          1. Colon

            “…Zelensky is not a champion of democracy..”

            True, he and his NAZI horde are champions of Cartel/Nato largesse…as much as they can launder, steal, or create in a Bio Weapons lab.

            Ukraine is Toast buddy boy….better start getting used to that eventual outcome. One your DAVOS Bedfellows are petrified of.

          2. “…that eventual outcome…”

            That’s a possibility. It would be a tragedy had it happened. I expected it to happen within days from Siberian invasion, now I think it will not happen anytime soon.
            Regardless, as I have said many times, you will feel really bad about yourself when you finally open your eyes and realize how vile was the side you have supported. It will happen sooner or later. I would not want to be you when it does happen.

      2. Oh my god, will you stop with the bloodthirsty already? If and when the war ends do you think it will be cool if the Russians use your lamp post idea?
        Armchair mass murderer cheerleaders give me a pain.

        1. Oh f*** you and your pearl clutching. Russians are committing genocide as we speak. They engage in ethnic cleansing. Rape is a norm. Millions of Ukrainians have been deported into the nightmare that is russia. Tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands have been tortured in filtration camps. Tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of children have been kidnapped into forced adoption while parents are sent to gulag. Entire villages wiped out. In Mariupol alone, at least 30K civilians have been killed. So yes, I literarily want all collaborators to swing.

  3. Not to worry, Zelensky will just implement a special secret police force with extra-legal powers to root out the traitors, maybe the Azovs can advise him on where and how to…concentrate…them.

  4. I’d be asking some serious questions, if we had a media withy any curiosity, about how much of the aid money is being funneled to Z’s and his cronies Swiss bank accounts?
    My suspicion is that he’ll be headed there, into exile, before Autumn.
    If he wants to keep the scam going, he’ll be looking for more money to set up a government in exile.

  5. Wasn’t there another guy,some kind of national Socialist,back in the dark recesses of history,who also called the failure of his loyal troops to fulfill his impossible goals “Treason”, while demanding those same troops fight to the last man,without food or ammunition?.

    Of course they are all traitors,they failed Dear Leader..

    But fear not,the Heroic Loyal Troops of Penis Man are defeating the Evil Russians on every front,any day now the Russian Hordes will be driven all the way back to Moscow..
    I keep wondering,did Bagdad Bob really die?
    Or is he orchestrating the media coverage of this fiasco?

    1. Yep. And Papa Joseph did the same thing. Every screw-up was blamed on “the Trotskyites.”
      Isn’t socialism grand?

  6. When Everybody and Everything is now for sale like they are in Corrupt Governments like Ukraine, Russia, the EU, Canada, and USA?

    Are you Surprised if people in the “Security Organs” like the loyal professionals in GUR, SBU, FSB, GRU, MI-?, RCMP, FBI, and CIA are for sale? Hopefully their “Professional Services” are only for sale to Domestic Political Factions, and not Foreign Enemy Factions also. Except once they whore themselves out? They already sold their loyalty once. Why not sell it again? You know what they are, the only thing left is haggling over the price.

  7. Just a pretaste of what will happen to those “disloyal” to True Dough and his mandates, er, peopledates……even if they truly cannot be implemented.

  8. Ukraine is a failed state. Period. The Ukes are so corrupt and morally degenerate that they are selling off the military hardware donated by the west. The fact congenital idiots are cheering on the Penis Pianist says it all. Get Canada out of Ukraine and stay away. In fact, get Canada out of NATO as well.

    1. That was nothing but a Kremlin talking point. There is zero proof of any kit being sold.

      However the Russians are famous for corruption. Especially the military.

      1. They’re all corrupt in that part of the world. What’s your point? The Ukes are just as bad as the Russkies.

      2. Ukraine is one the most corrupt jurisdictions on planet earth. Fact. Check out Zelensky’s old election platform. It is a matter of public record, if you bother to read it.

        Ukraine had the 5th largest economy in the world in 1991. It is now, what, 143rd? And that was before the “спецоперации” as the Russian call it.

        1. “Ukraine is one the most corrupt jurisdictions on planet earth. Fact. ”

          False, and not relevant. It is corrupt but not especially highly, also not more corrupt than russia. Besides, measures of corruption ar notoriously inaccurate and arbitrary.

          “Ukraine had the 5th largest economy in the world in 1991. It is now, what, 143rd?”

          False, beyond nonsense. Also Ukrainian GDP in real terms (adjusted for inflation) has almost tripled between 1991 and 2021 and that despite Siberian invasion in 2014 and Siberian sponsored civil war ever since. https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/UKR/ukraine/gdp-gross-domestic-product

        2. 5th largest economy in the world?
          We’re they in the G8?
          Canada is in the G8, now G7 but doesn’t have an economy large enough to justify being in the club.
          We got in cuz GHW Bush liked Mulrooney and got us in.
          Ukraine has never been close to a G8 economy.

  9. How many hypocrites have been whining about corruption in Ukraine, and are now whining when something is being done about it?

    The same culture of corruption which is endemic throughout Russia and was a feature of the Soviet state.

    1. Bingo.

      Also why does the Ukrainian public want to join the EU? Corruption! They need to push reforms to be able to join.

      Why did Yanukovych pull the plug on joining the EU when that was a part of his platform? Corruption!

    2. Excellent point. They’re hypocrites. They never cared about Ukraine corruption except to use it for a talking point when convenient while ignoring that corruption in Ukraine was largely due to russian influence. When Podesta Group (yes that Podesta) was laundering Sberbank’s (i.e. Pootin controlled) money to pro-russian Ukrainian politicians they didn’t care.

  10. Colonista,

    There were rumors and reports of both GRU Spetnaz and Chechnyan hit teams getting into firefights with police and army troops in Kiev in the first few days. Never heard of any details after the first reports. Maybe those stories were confused with the reports of the airborne and Spetnaz troops trying to seize the airfields around Kiev to develop airheads to overrun Kiev.

    Dead? Fled?
    Maybe If Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy had even moved to Lviv in Western Ukraine?

    Ukraine may very well have collapsed. The brave Ukrainian soldiers and sailors and airmen may not have stood and died to buy time for the country to respond. What IF? Who knows?

    1. That’s right, Alfa units reportedly got within a kilometer or two of Zelensky’s location in the first days. Again, it is just a hypothesis, but the only one, so far, that makes sense. While I love to believe that russians are incompetent idiots, I will continue looking for a rational explanation of their blunder. On thing for sure, they were not prepared for a battle around Kiev or Krharkiv. They must have known it. So why have they done what they did? Why waste all the troops (some elite some decisively third rate) and equipment?

    2. There’s a lot of open speculation that the FSB was penetrated by Ukraine. That’s why Zelensky was always a step ahead. That’s also why higher ups in the FSB were placed in house arrest in March

      The FSB spent billions on Ukraine and barely got anything out of it.

  11. Mass treason is the last thing to happen before you lose the war.. Its a good thing we laundered a trillion dollars through that place :)..
    I suspect Zelenskyy will be setting up shop in exile asap..

  12. I hesitate to comment on the fidelity of Zelenskyy. I’ve read that he is very wealthy. If so, where did the money accrue from? Acting? Comedy?

    The Ukes are known for their corruption and chicanery. Prior to February 24th they were Europe’s poor cousin. Barely tolerated.

    That said, few countries endorse the conduct of the ruskies. I don’t think they will be allowed to get away with what they did to the Syrians but who knows? Support for the Ukes appears to be waning?

    The Uke citizens have put on a very brave face. If they lose to the ruskies on some level the throats of their occupiers and anyone suspected of treason will be slit – for decades.

    1. The Russians didn’t need to capture a HIMARS. They just bought one. They will soon buy the Harpoon targeting systems off the Ukrainians too.

      Sometimes the headlines just write themselves.

        1. No, I didn’t say that. But they have purchased a HIMARS. There is lots of Ukrainian shit for sale on the dark web. Enough of an issue that the EU are getting very concerned about it.

          1. Ukrainians have received eight HIMARS so far, all are accounted for and busy making orcs good.

          2. There’s zero evidence of:

            – western arms being sold to Russia or elsewhere
            – a single HIMARS being destroyed. Russian MoD produced a video of a truck being hit that was not a HIMARS.

        2. Moskva was a CIA/USA intel operation, Ukes only pulled the trigger . Try reading facts, not wishful thinking.

          1. Yes, Ukrainians are thankfully receiving intel from NATO and making great use of it. HIMARS targeting data comes primarily from satellite radar imaging. About 40 out of estimated 95 ammo depos at brigade level around the frontlines have been eliminated within the last two weeks. Excellent, more please.

  13. Let’s apply Occam’s razor to this. What do you think more likely: that Russia secretly suborned Ukraine’s entire security apparatus, and installed hundreds of moles, who perplexingly took no action, or that Zelenesky is a dictator who is reacting to losses by initiating purges of his civil service, just as many dictators before him have done?

    1. Who said anything about “entire security apparatus” or “moles”? A fraction of Ukrainian security and judiciary collaborates with the occupation. That’s a fact. It does not mean that they are sleeper agents, just opportunists. Vichy weren’t Hitler’s agents either. Happens during every war. Why would you expect publik sektor critters to be different in Ukraine than anywhere else in the world?

  14. Colon you and Allan act as if you are both in the warroom and privy to all sorts of inside intel. Fact of the matter is you spew 2nd 3rd and 4th hand info as if you know what you are talking about – granular detail which you have no way of confirming, and of which your predictions have primarily been wrong.

    But you still. Dont . Quit.
    Allan is a lost cause Colon, but you on other issues are not polar opposite to reality the way allan is.
    Whatever the bug up your aS3 about russians and russia is, its completely wrecked you to the point of missing the bigger picture here. And there is a much much bigger picture.

    I mostly try to ignore it but, good lord you are lost, and this will only serve to have you dig in deeper.

    1. “Colon you and Allan act as if you are both in the warroom and privy to all sorts of inside intel.”

      Nonsense, anything I have said here is verifiable either in English or in Polish. I rely either on primary sources (videos) or analysis that comes from Polish sources or from Polish war correspondents. Sadly the quality of analysis in English tends to be very low.

      Which of my predictions have been proven wrong? Could you be specific? Apart for the fact that I have never expected Ukrainians to be as effective as they turned out to be, I can’t think of a prediction I made that was wrong.

      “Allan is a lost cause Colon…”

      On this issue he has been consistently on the right side, though he is a tad more optimistic about Ukrainian chances than I am. This is not a team sport, so my disagreements with him on other topics are not relevant here. He is genuine and not a rabid troll like UnMe, GYN/Enema69 Ho/YeahWell or the russian bots like BDSM.

      As for my attitude about russia and russians, I have explained it on multiple occasions. I can do it again if you are interested but since you prefer to ignore my posts, that is fine too.

  15. Oh and I would like to point out again that Kate has linked CNN, where oh where are all the broshevics dismissing it blindly because MSM??????

  16. Verifiable??? Really? So much verifiable info has turned out to be flat out wrong, as you are.

    Your posts are rabidly anti Russian with no thought as to the geo political aspects of what is occurring. In fact you are willfully blind to those aspects as they create conflict with your anti Russian hard on zealotry.

    You and those like you consign Ukrainians to a brutal reality that need not have occurred and could be stopped tomorrow.

    1. “So much verifiable info has turned out to be flat out wrong”

      Thant’s not true. Details have been often wrong, smog of war is all. Big things turned out to be pretty reliable.

      “Your posts are rabidly anti Russian “

      There is no such thing as “rabid anti Russian” anymore than there is “islamophobia” both are natural justified reactions given history.

      “with no thought as to the geo political aspects of what is occurring. In fact you are willfully blind to those aspects as they create conflict with your anti Russian hard on zealotry.”

      And that’s the key here. That’s what those of you who are sincere, always want to zero in on, at all costs, loosing all sense of objectivity, you’re willing to feed 40+ million of people into Siberian slavery because globalists/Davos/Soros/WEF/Schab/”globohomo”. This is the only thing that matters to you. Not millions of people fighting to preserve their way of living, against the vilest animals that committed multiple genocides on them in the past, and are fully intended to finish the job.

      “You and those like you consign Ukrainians to a brutal reality that need not have occurred and could be stopped tomorrow.”

      If only Ukrainians accepted the Siberian Mongol boot on their necks. If only they stopped fighting and resigned themselves that their culture, their way of living, their sense of nationhood are no more.

      No.

      Never again.

      1. “It Feelz.”

        The Broshevik argument that translates as: “refuse to condemn people to slavery to subhumans”. Yes, I refuse, FOAD.

        1. “The Broshevik argument that translates as: “refuse to condemn people to slavery to subhumans”. Yes, I refuse, FOAD.”

          “Subhumans”?

          Time for you to FOAD yourself (preferably just as painfully as the deaths that you continue to wish on them)….

          1. Yes, absolutely, subhumans that should have been exterminated in late 40s. The fact that you focus on me insulting them, rather than on genocide they are perpetrating is telling.

  17. Funny, I don’t care that my asshole opinion on Ukraine exactly mirrors the WEF, all the Globohomo corporate media, Trudeau, Schwab, Biden, Johnson, Macron, Ardern. That means absolutely nothing to me, a bloodthirsty racist and bigot, a fair sober minded rational corporate minded sheep independent individual.

  18. Wow…who knew that the Russians would be so TERRIBLE at committing genocide?

    I mean, it seem pretty straightforward to me: just LEVEL the cities. They have more than enough firepower at their disposal, right?
    Easily done: level the cities, KILL EVERYONE in them, and that’s the end of it, correct?

    Instead, they are only allowing the odd missile, rocket or bomb to go astray…killing a mere *5,000* civilians? What the hell?? What kind of “genocide” is that supposed to be?

    The Rwandans managed to murder 800,000 mostly with machetes. Hitler killed 7 to 10 million, Pol Pot 1.5 to 2 million.

    (no one even comes close to Mao’s Great Leap Forward, though…55 to 60 MILLION dead? THAT guy knew how to commit genocide!!)

    The Russians themselves managed to kill 3.5 to 10 million Ukrainians during the Holodomor. This 5000 number? Just EMBARRASSING.

    (get a grip, Russians. Don’t make Colonialista look more foolish than he already does…)

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