72 Replies to “Honey, They Broke The Internet”

  1. I think they have been trying most of the day to get a loan to pay the hackers, but no one is anxious to give them one.

  3. Just watched a guy storm off from an ATM furious that he couldn’t get cash or pay anything with debit.

    Still think a cashless society is a great idea?

    1. Well funny you say that…

      Right on Cue… Everything Is Going Digital…

      Your Entire Identity… From Health To Finance…

      From Credit To Social Credit… Right Down To Your Carbon Footprint…

      And The UN / WEF All Admit The Declared Emergency Greatly Accelerated The Rollout…

      US Treasury Develops Framework For International Crypto Regulation

      https://procoinnews.com/us-treasury-develops-framework-for-international-crypto-regulation/?utm_source=PCNcw

      From

      https://mobile.twitter.com/Spiro_Ghost/status/1545533853095366657?cxt=HHwWgsC44bm26_IqAAAA

    1. Bullshit…

      A little late now Eh…

      Their grasping at an excuse…

      Fits the Globalist Liberals Cons NDP narrative so they are going for it…

      The .gov paid media in Canada will make a lie a truth…

      They have been doing it since 2020…

      100% Effective and Safe….

      Bullshit I say…

      Bullshit…

      1. Do you realize how much business losses occurred today across Canada…

        Billions in losses and since Rogers had a major shutdown before they have now proven themselves to be culpable and TO Satanic Mayor John Tory remember this

        Toronto mayor defends role in Rogers family trust amid boardroom drama

        So the needed to save their Company and the Trudeau and his lying Libs came through….

        They are on the same Totalitarian Team

        John Tory to Trudeau: Ban handguns in Toronto

        Question

        How much money was deposited into the Trudeau Foundation today?

      2. Freeman… You have no idea how close you are to the target. People I know have told me to expect this — the internet and communications going dark. It’s the prelude to the great reset. I can’t say any more, but I will say that you should expect more disruptions on this scale, or even worse, as our infrastructure starts to crumble around us.

        No, this was no accident. This was deliberate. It’s all part of the plan. Get ready folks. The ride is only going to get worse from here on out.

        1. I couldn’t log onto my brokerage account using the challenge questions. I used a code number which was telephoned to me–at my home number, a landline–and managed to get in.

          Earlier in the evening, I found out that my cellphone service was out of commission. Had I set up my account for that number, I would have had a lot of grief.

    2. Saturday a.m.: “Rogers CEO tells CP24 they located specific equipment and software that are believed to have been the problem.”

  5. All day, I’ve been telling my customers it’s either because of Trudeau, or the Russians.

  6. A quick search revealed Rogers mandated vaccines. I don’t know how far that actually went.

    But still, I’m going to toss intentional sabotage into the theory pile.

    1. From what I understand current employees must be vaccinated or take a daily rapid test. All new hires must be vaccinated.

      1. There are no vaccines, just experimental gene therapy shots that are killing people.

    1. Rumour has it Gerry Butts is advising Trudeau to blame the outage on climate change.

  9. This was no ordinary update. If it was such a massive update why schedule it on a Friday morning? Most significant updates are scheduled at a time when it causes the least damage (Ie weekends)
    Guaranteed this will be used to nationalize the internet service providers.

  10. The idiotic morons that govern this country allow one company to have a complete control of all debit payments?

  11. Services affected by the Rogers outage include:

    Rogers, Fido, Chatr, TekSavvy
    Interac debit and e-transfer
    911
    ⚕️ Telehealth
    Fares at transit systems
    ArriveCAN
    Service Canada centres
    Schools and libraries
    Buzzer systems

    1. I can confirm that Chatr isn’t working properly.

      I tried to place a call using my cell phone earlier this evening and, although it found the network and I was able to key in the number, it couldn’t make a connection. I finally made my call using my regular Telus phone.

  13. I’ve known individuals running small webservers to have 2 ISPs for just this sort of thing. Too bad our banks are too cheap and dim-witted to do the same thing. The fact that some hospitals haven’t is best characterized as criminal negligence. I bet this is costing more /hr than the truckers have cost to date.
    Most Canadians only have 4 ISPs servicing where they live, at best: A cable based one, a phone line based one, a cellular based one and a satellite based one.
    As far as Rogers cable and cell service dying at once, I think this is more likely an attack.

  14. Sorry, I don’t buy the cloudfare explanation. Can’t say for sure but I doubt that Rogers uses public ips for either the voip or their digital tv. I’d think that they would run these as a private network (ips 10.X.X.X) instead of burning public ips for their own internal usage. Their video stuff has no need to go outside their network and VOIP would pass through corporate gateways to interconnect via toll switches to other network providers.

    1. Its more likely software. That is the only thing that can explain an outage simultaneously affecting two entirely different and distinct sets of infrastructure. For a variety of reasons, order processing software now connects to databases that tell the infrastructure provisioning systems (and generate tickets for humans in facilities and in the field). If something screws up that order processing software, or its associated database, every single thing connected to it can be effected.

      1. My best guess would be they were working on repairing/upgrading a network switch(es) that face(s) their authentication servers (internet, voice & video). What I am stunned at is the lack of redundancy. They should have a 2nd site ready to take over in a case like this. If they do and that failed then that raises even more questions. If they don’t then all the money they thought they were saving, and more, just got spent.

        Due to the duration I’m thinking it’s more than a provisioning problem, they’ve got rollbacks for that and they should have been able to sort that out hours ago. Maybe the control card(s) got cooked and they weren’t backing up their d/base. Couldn’t imagine rebuilding the config of one of these monsters manually. Or, the chassis of the device is defective and it burnt out the cards, maybe even their spares.

        I’d love to be a fly on the wall when they hold this autopsy.

        1. They were hooking in The ArriveCan to the interact banking system and here we are…?

        2. No ISP can be that stupid. The only logical conclusion that can be arrived at was that this is deliberate. From what my sources told me, to expect an outage of this magnitude, I’m not surprised. I was also told that this should have happened two months ago, but something gummed up their plans, and they had to put it off.

          It appears that they are now ready to proceed with their plan, whatever the objective is, but I think you can guess.

          I can’t tell you in precise detail what to expect, but what I can tell you is don’t assume anything is secure. Our society is crumbling, so get ready for the ride of your life.

          1. Yes, ISPs can be that stupid. I’ve seen sw issues cause wait times of 3+ months just to switch on a new cx phone line…for all new cx until the sw issue was fixed, over 3 months later. Share prices dropped over 30% until all the bugs were fixed. And that was with expensive Israeli software. If Rogers hired some company staffed in the Philippines or India, and they wrote an update with one or more bugs in it, and then released it to Rogers as ready for implementation, this could happen quite easily. Or it could be an attack.

          2. Want to bet ? For years I watched people ignore alarms on network equipment because they weren’t sure how to deal with them. Some alarms became service affecting while others did not.

          4. Ok, Ok… I stand corrected. I should have realized that we were talking about a Canadian company after all, but then the question remains… was this blackout caused by stupidity, or was it deliberate? Since I was told to expect something like this to happen, I tend to go with the latter.

          5. I think it was a whole pile of bad luck. Heard the Pres of Rogers today and it sounded like this was maintenance work. Devices can be config’d with redundancy for about everything but the chassis. Beyond that you’d need a 2nd device to sit there and do nothing but to wait for the other device to fail.

            One possible scenario is that the device had an issue on the back up side and everything was working fine. When they went to address the issue and attempted to clear the trouble it broke the working side. Maybe the active control card was bad and they couldn’t get a good copy of the database on the spare. Or it could be that the chassis of the device was bad and it had to be replaced.

            What I don’t get is why overall redundancy didn’t kick in. Sounds like this device connected their internet, voip and video authentication servers to their network. They all fed into the same piece of network equipment that failed. Normally in network design you would have a 2nd geographical location built with the same config to take over in a case like this. If the backup site was down for some reason then they should have fixed that first before attempting to repair the inactive side of the working device.

            These are only suppositions because specifics are unknown.

      2. There’s gotta be a The Far Side cartoon in there somewhere…..

        1. Indeed.
          For want of a nail, the bucket was lost.
          For want of a bucket, the water was lost.
          For want of water, the horse was lost.
          For want of a horse, the message was lost.
          For want of a message, the battle was lost.
          For want of a battle, the kingdom was lost.
          All for the want of a nail.

          Butterfly effect, Olde English Style.

  15. Related,

    about 2 months ago Scotia bank had an outage, I think it only lasted one day, can t remember

    but when their internet site came back, many things were defective and still are as of today

    for example, the price I paid for stocks I bought are now all wrong…

    I wrote to them 4 or 5 times, got a different answer ( from different employees) each time

    all of them giving me strange answers or plain lying, saying there was no problem, but one of them did admit they had a problem and costs in my trading accounts would be corrected by them soon…

    That was over 2 months ago…nothing has been fixed.

    It is a good thing I save screenshots regularly or I would have no proof they changed the cost of the stocks I own. I even print them on paper because I trust computers less and less everyday.

    My point being,

    Those damn computers will be the downfall of Western Civilization, or a big factor in it.

    The day a rogue nation manages to hack into the US military computers, the banks computers etc etc, invading the USA will be done without firing a shot.

    And Canada being the equivalent of the dinghy boat trailing behind the big ship will sink with the USA.

    1. It’s not the computers themselves it’s the H-1B (or Canadian equivalent) “engineers” that manage to break everything. Have seen it first hand at my work. We didn’t have problems like this when the software engineers were named Rick and Bob.

      1. Some of the code produced by these people is insane. The worst I’ve seen is a 1000+ line method of copy pasta within a switch statement with one slight change for each condition. Took weeks to rewrite.

  17. Irony Alert courtesy of CP24: “The Weekend concert at Rogers Centre tonight is postponed due to Rogers service outages impacting venue.”

  18. From thelogic.co

    Lawsuits involving Rogers, Coinsquare point fingers over $200K Bitcoin hack

    By Jon Victor and David Reevely Jul 5, 2022

    In mid-October 2018, an unnamed hacker contacted Rogers pretending to be Felix Kimelman, a technology consultant who lives in the Toronto area. Though they failed Rogers’s voice-recognition test and gave wrong answers to the account’s security questions, Kimelman alleges in a lawsuit filed in an Ontario court, the hacker used Kimelman’s personal data to convince Rogers to reassign his phone number to a different SIM card. They then stole more than $200,000 worth of Bitcoin from an account Kimelman held with Coinsquare, a Toronto-based cryptocurrency exchange.

    There is a lot more juice here and it gets better and better so here’s the link

    https://thelogic.co/news/lawsuits-involving-rogers-coinsquare-point-fingers-over-200k-bitcoin-hack/

  20. I didn’t notice any of this happened.

    My bet would be on the ‘HR only hires morons and alienats skill thus they broke it themselves’ side rather than the ‘haxxors dun it’ side.

    That is the pessimist side. We should expect things to work worse from here on out, the people in charge have no idea how anything works and take for granted that things will keep working. They won’t.

  21. At least this will kill the Shaw merger. Hopefully poliviere will allow foreign companies in so we can stop having to deal with these crap robber barons.

  22. Possibly unrelated, but a FB friend posted a picture of a cell tower on fire in western Manitoba. It looked like each individual unit was overheating.

    I wouldn’t be surprised at all if it was Ivan.

  23. My guess, and it’s a guess: BGP (Border Gateway Protocol) router update failure cascade. Possibly malicious but more likely accidental. Maybe people will think twice about the wisdom of digital currencies.

    2. Thus was my immediate assumption upon hearing the scope and duration. Cocked up BGP update causes every router to stop talking to everything upstream and once every router’s b0rked, the only way to fix it is a local serial connection and a reload from backup. Seen it before in internal company WANs.

      Most people really have no idea how incredibly half-assed and hacked-together our critical network infrastructure is. I have worked for multiple medical, financial and (conventional) engineering companies that will outright admit to bribing inspectors to pass key audits.

  25. Princess Justin is obviously tired of the slow drumbeat of carbon taxes.

    Outright electronic theft is far more efficient.

  27. Keep in mind that if a buggy software update corrupted a database, that a software rollback generally will not fix the database, and they may need their very expensive DBAs to go through the DB with a fine-toothed comb, record by record, to fix it. That could take months.

  28. For Scotiabank customers, their normal service line is down, but I found an alternative that work:
    1-800-267-1234.

  29. Rogers ? Oh yeah, aren’t they that corrupt gigantic unaccountable political media corporation that propagandizes on a daily basis that the country they have been granted exclusive monopolistic broadcast and telecom rights in is a racist country on the unceded lands of Indians ?

    That Rogers ?

    I hope this doesn’t interfere with Rogers cultural marxist political agenda.

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