“Going to make sure you are never going to lead my country” is chock-full of hubris. Does Graves think he chooses the PM?
And a bit sinister.
He does! Really! He does!!!
That’s the arrogance of these Laurentian-Elite Liberals, who sees themselves always in control of all the levers.
Surely a coincidence that the same talking points being spewed by Charest are identical to the ones being regurgitated by Kinsella and Graves.
I hope they never realize that it’s this kind of garbage that is driving disenfranchised to support Poliviere.
I’ll never understand what it is about Pierre that triggers pure panic in these clowns. Being a family man that worries about the common joe’s problems is completely anathema to the chattering class these days?
What worries them is that they cannot control him. What he wants is secondary.
“They” already control Pierre. Where was he during the last “election” on mandates ? He only started screaming after others did before him and when it was politically safe for him to do so. His statements on the blockchain are also very telling with the BOC wishing to implement a digital currency. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE SITTING MPs MUST BE PURGED FROM PARLIAMENT. And this would just be a start. It’s a big club and we’re not in it. Should be obvious by now….
“EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE SITTING MPs MUST BE PURGED FROM PARLIAMENT.”
This. In spades. Clean slate. Fresh start.
“Clean slate. Fresh start.”
As in 2015 ?
That didn’t work out well.
Had they been already controlling him why would they be worried about him? Why would they be simping for the Kebeker?
I’m not he supports a CBDC.
He’s big into Bitcoin and if you don’t know the difference, I suggest you look it up as a CBDC embodies all the worst possibilities of a digital currency while Bitcoin has virtually all of the best qualities, aside from transactional speed.
Actually, from what I understand, PP is a proponent of Blockchain. A form of digital currency, yes, but not like the CBDC, which is *centralized.* Blockchain, if managed correctly, can be *decentralized.*
Yes, we should be concerned with PP’s push to DC, but let’s not lose our heads over it just yet.
DC is coming. That’s inevitable. What we may still be able to control is what form it will take. Will we have a socred system based on CBDC, which is what the lie-berals are planning, or do we have a decentralized platform, where we can still maintain a level of privacy and independence?
One step at a time. First, focus on the fanatical liberals, then we can worry about purging the so-called conservatives.
Stop stealing my lines. 🙂
You will soon be called “libcon” by the pure.
Agreed. A one-time “this is your last term as an MP, here’s your pension.” Then an entire new slate of MPs after the next election. Follow that up with term limits whereby MPs can only be re-elected once.
Yes, and said MPs are held to account to do what they say, then go away.
It is the ideal populism that strains to happen.
Maybe never will.
I have recently listened to Pierre talk too much, and he is revealed in the details.
Don’t readily buy the obfuscation and clapping seal shite.
As others have said…time to clean the 338 house and start afresh.
Let us agree to honour the idea of populism and not allow these tainted elites and elected pawns of elites decide how to besmirch the idea of populism.
We the people are many, but far too long divided and distracted.
Think about it as if your very soul was in the balance, because it is.
So are the souls of your children and grandchildren.
He was following the leader.
That leader stepped down.
Now he is free to take a different path.
Related
There is an article in the Globe and Mail from some young fellow named Ben Harper that apparently isn’t too charitable toward Charest.
Funny how in this world of dis-, un- and mis-information…the polling industry is utterly unregulated.
And by funny I mean “because they are politically connected and protected”, kinda like Hunter Biden but less amusing and useful.
You forgot the most insidious of them all… “Mal…!”
The coward pulled his tweet, but another self-declared enemy in the civil war.
Well, seeing as how Graves has his empty head stuck up Castreau’s anus, I’m sure he knows what authoritarianism is. But like leftists since the dawn of time, he’s projecting. Would it be wrong of me to wish him a case of the coof?
Thucy..
Not wrong at all, in fact, for Leftist pieholes such as this clown, My desires are far more sinister.
It’s the utter in yer face arrogance that sets me off with gutless trash like him.
“Authoritarian Populism” is an oxymoron. Populism by definition is the average joe speaking out against the elites who seek to control them. There’s nothing “authoritarian” about populism. It really is quite the opposite, but Frank Graves has his legacy to protect. He knows when his position under the current regime is under threat, so he spouts this garbage tweet, revealing himself as the true authoritarian that he really is.
I assumed the polling etc. would be rigged against Poilevre, but it certainly is nice to have confirmation like this.
Poilevre must be doing much better than expected. ~:D
And after this. and to their horror. they’re likely going to have to “rigitmore”
In Oz the Federal election is on. The would be Prime Minister has fumbled out of the gate – one newspaper front page
They tell you exactly why they don’t like him – he’s popular. The Canadian swamp (should we call them the Bog, you know, like the Borg?) want a leader who is UN-popular. That’s the sign of a great leader, taking your country in a direction that nobody wants is real leadership.
Actually, I would presume that at least a third of the country (perhaps even half the country) would like to take the direction PP is proposing, and the authoritarian elites know this, which is why they’re freaking out, so they would like you to *believe* that PP is out there on the fringes.
The title of pollster is generally a big tell. Most pollster are like whores – they will give you the results that you want in exchange for money – truth has nothing to do with that kind of commerce.
WTF is ‘acolyte of authoritarian populism’ if not just fear-mongering BS?
Projection.
That is a description of Graves best buddy, Turdeau.
So “authoritarian populism” is what exactly? The guy doesn’t want us to have to wear cuck muzzles and show papers to do everyday things and he’s an authoritarian or something?
No, we’ve seen authoritarianism in action with Trudeau the pied piper of covid hysteria and want none of it.
Well, I may be literal-minded, but “authoritarian populism” to me means “authority of the people.”
Who the fork does he think he is, this country doesn’t belong to toxic liberals like him. Oh the Lowrentian elites are scared to death, they are desperate, Pierre scares the low rent crowd witless.
From wikipedia:”In April 2010, the Conservative Party of Canada accused Graves of giving partisan advice to the Liberal Party of Canada, noting his donations to the party since 2003. An investigation conducted by the CBC ombudsman found no evidence to support these allegations, stating that personal donor history is not relevant to one’s objectivity as a pollster.”
Laugh out f***ing loud! CBC can conduct an investigation?! I guess they missed the many instances of sexual abuse by their stars.
Perhaps the liberal industry is afraid if Polievre wins the next federal election, he might not attend the (in)famous meeting at the Irving Lodge.
Graves is just another cog in the giant Liberal machine, which itself is a damned good reason for Western separation.
And now you know why PP wants to DEFUND THE CBC!
EKOS, official pollster of the CBC
Well let’s see….if I have to choose between “authoritarian populism” and “authoritarian globalism”, I know which way I’ll vote!
When the establishment morons stand against you, you’re on the right track.
“An investigation conducted by the CBC ombudsman found no evidence to support these allegations, stating that personal donor history is not relevant to one’s objectivity as a pollster.”
Hmmm…doesn’t sound like the CBC that doxxed trucker convoy donators, huh?
I didn’t realize that in a democracy the candidates running for the leadership of a party had to be approved by the pollsters.
In Canada, yes.
Frank Graves, what a f**king a**hole!! He has now exposed himself as the hack we all knew that he was.
Is this the new low that we have sunk to where the “neutral” pollsters have out and out declared their political allegiance without fearing a besmirching of their reputation? Looks like they are not afraid to get monetarily cut off from their paymasters of the Liberal Party of Canada.
I don’t know about everyone else, but this sounds like a physical threat to the health and safety of one of the potential leaders of one of the major political parties that may be in power to govern Canada. What sort of physical violence from an unstable or unhinged person or from Frank Graves himself could be caused by this towards Pierre Polievre? This should be referred to the RCMP as a threat in my opinion.
I don’t know what being an acolyte of populism means or is that code for TDS? And what if he was, what would it matter? Trudeau is an acolyte of communism and authoritarian dictatorship, and that doesn’t seem to cause any concern with the CBC or MSM or “pollsters”. Polievre is conservative and not very conservative at that, but I guess that is too much for the mainstream media these days.
It looks like in the end that we are just cattle that are to be taxed and nothing more, for the benefit of those to vote LPC.
Who is Frank Graves and should I give a shit?
No you shouldn’t. But this is a demonstration why, whoever wins the leadership, garners your vote. Anything to get the current fascist dick out of office. Don’t do another Manning, Perot or Bernier, we extinguish ourselves with this stupid shit. All of them were likely 100% right, but what did it leave us?
^ Yes +1
Frank Graves is the founder of an influential polling company in Canada,and he has the love of most of the msm, AND the Liberal Party, and THAT is why you should “give a shit”, if you’re a Canadian taxpayer,that is.
Graves will be quoted all over the media during the next election campaign, without a mention of his bias.
Baaahhhh! No worries! Just watch Polievre shove those words right down his throat!
Frank Graves is a sociology graduate from Carleton. Say no more.
“Mr. Graves graduated from Carleton University with a B.A. in Social Anthropology, M.A. in Sociology, and has completed doctoral coursework in Sociology.”
Ah yes, Sociology, which along with Psychology and Education, are the traditional intellectual dumpsters of the post-secondary education system. Their modern equivalents are the various “Woke Studies” degrees.
Oh, and before I forget:
Frank Graves is Asshoe.
Ott MJ
IN other words he’s just a Bullshit Artist….no.?
Like EVERY LIBERAL I’ve ever met.
ZERO SUBSTANCE
Incapable of changing a tire type…
IOW USELESS….
Not a lot of math there.
Frank Graves is just another example of Laurentian elites telling the People of Canada how to think!!! Is it not time to enact the Clarity act!!!!? Or is it past time?
Maybe an accidental truth from the “Pollster”?
I have been suspecting pollsters of being far more dishonest than most citizens give them credit for.
Without the push polls and the fake claims of support for Demonic Candidates,made by pollsters..The election fraud would be impossible.
Pollsters and their preparing the masses through push polls are essential to successfully cheating the ballot count.
For if all pollster did was “measure” public opinion,why are there so many of them?
And why are 99% Libtards?
They must serve some function in this Kleptocracy,for their numbers keep growing.
You were just running PP down yesterday in another post Phucking little left wing weasel.
Oh how they love to label anyone who disagrees . This is not populism – this is decent hardworking people trying to save what they have struggled and worked for while being systematically smeared. And at this point it is in the hope that we leave freedom and prosperity for those who follow. With the recent tyrannical moves we are well on the path of not much to loose.
Kinsella advertises his stupidity and showcases his corruption and dishonesty.
Anything to get back his place fluffing Trudeau.
“But there was Pierre Poilievre in February, unambiguously expressing support for a bunch of law-breaking types who, somehow, had taken downtown Ottawa hostage. They were mostly the uninformed — but their leadership was a fetid stew of extremists and racists and lunatics, many of them now facing real-deal jail time. And there was Pierre, handing them coffee and posing for selfies with them.”
WK was is and always be a media Colon L general
In response to the Kornflake I would quote Bill Mahar
“You didn’t see the blackface?”
Can anyone explain to me what “Authoritarian Populism” is and how is it different than “Authoritarian Elitism” and is either any different than say Trudeau style ‘Authoritarianism’?
It’s an Ontario thing
Why are Canadians happy to have been hoodwinked by a snowboard instructor?
Aren’t they embarrassed?
Not that I care about the Tory race one way or another but this Graves dolt believes that a “conservative” simply parrots what the Liberals say.
Because that’s balance.
Actually, for a while there, the leader of the “conservative” party was doing exactly that.
“Thumbs on the Scale”
With the enthusiasm for following a bloke starting with “Z” wouldn’t that be a prick?
First they came for the authoritarian populists. Well, actually, the authoritarian populists came for them. Karma.
“Going to make sure you are never going to lead my country” is chock-full of hubris. Does Graves think he chooses the PM?
And a bit sinister.
He does! Really! He does!!!
That’s the arrogance of these Laurentian-Elite Liberals, who sees themselves always in control of all the levers.
Surely a coincidence that the same talking points being spewed by Charest are identical to the ones being regurgitated by Kinsella and Graves.
I hope they never realize that it’s this kind of garbage that is driving disenfranchised to support Poliviere.
I’ll never understand what it is about Pierre that triggers pure panic in these clowns. Being a family man that worries about the common joe’s problems is completely anathema to the chattering class these days?
What worries them is that they cannot control him. What he wants is secondary.
“They” already control Pierre. Where was he during the last “election” on mandates ? He only started screaming after others did before him and when it was politically safe for him to do so. His statements on the blockchain are also very telling with the BOC wishing to implement a digital currency. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE SITTING MPs MUST BE PURGED FROM PARLIAMENT. And this would just be a start. It’s a big club and we’re not in it. Should be obvious by now….
“EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE SITTING MPs MUST BE PURGED FROM PARLIAMENT.”
This. In spades. Clean slate. Fresh start.
“Clean slate. Fresh start.”
As in 2015 ?
That didn’t work out well.
Had they been already controlling him why would they be worried about him? Why would they be simping for the Kebeker?
I’m not he supports a CBDC.
He’s big into Bitcoin and if you don’t know the difference, I suggest you look it up as a CBDC embodies all the worst possibilities of a digital currency while Bitcoin has virtually all of the best qualities, aside from transactional speed.
Actually, from what I understand, PP is a proponent of Blockchain. A form of digital currency, yes, but not like the CBDC, which is *centralized.* Blockchain, if managed correctly, can be *decentralized.*
Yes, we should be concerned with PP’s push to DC, but let’s not lose our heads over it just yet.
DC is coming. That’s inevitable. What we may still be able to control is what form it will take. Will we have a socred system based on CBDC, which is what the lie-berals are planning, or do we have a decentralized platform, where we can still maintain a level of privacy and independence?
One step at a time. First, focus on the fanatical liberals, then we can worry about purging the so-called conservatives.
Stop stealing my lines. 🙂
You will soon be called “libcon” by the pure.
Agreed. A one-time “this is your last term as an MP, here’s your pension.” Then an entire new slate of MPs after the next election. Follow that up with term limits whereby MPs can only be re-elected once.
Yes, and said MPs are held to account to do what they say, then go away.
It is the ideal populism that strains to happen.
Maybe never will.
I have recently listened to Pierre talk too much, and he is revealed in the details.
Don’t readily buy the obfuscation and clapping seal shite.
As others have said…time to clean the 338 house and start afresh.
Let us agree to honour the idea of populism and not allow these tainted elites and elected pawns of elites decide how to besmirch the idea of populism.
We the people are many, but far too long divided and distracted.
Think about it as if your very soul was in the balance, because it is.
So are the souls of your children and grandchildren.
He was following the leader.
That leader stepped down.
Now he is free to take a different path.
Related
There is an article in the Globe and Mail from some young fellow named Ben Harper that apparently isn’t too charitable toward Charest.
Funny how in this world of dis-, un- and mis-information…the polling industry is utterly unregulated.
And by funny I mean “because they are politically connected and protected”, kinda like Hunter Biden but less amusing and useful.
You forgot the most insidious of them all… “Mal…!”
The coward pulled his tweet, but another self-declared enemy in the civil war.
Well, seeing as how Graves has his empty head stuck up Castreau’s anus, I’m sure he knows what authoritarianism is. But like leftists since the dawn of time, he’s projecting. Would it be wrong of me to wish him a case of the coof?
Thucy..
Not wrong at all, in fact, for Leftist pieholes such as this clown, My desires are far more sinister.
It’s the utter in yer face arrogance that sets me off with gutless trash like him.
“Authoritarian Populism” is an oxymoron. Populism by definition is the average joe speaking out against the elites who seek to control them. There’s nothing “authoritarian” about populism. It really is quite the opposite, but Frank Graves has his legacy to protect. He knows when his position under the current regime is under threat, so he spouts this garbage tweet, revealing himself as the true authoritarian that he really is.
I assumed the polling etc. would be rigged against Poilevre, but it certainly is nice to have confirmation like this.
Poilevre must be doing much better than expected. ~:D
And after this. and to their horror. they’re likely going to have to “rigitmore”
In Oz the Federal election is on. The would be Prime Minister has fumbled out of the gate – one newspaper front page
https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2022/04/spectacular-front-page.html
They tell you exactly why they don’t like him – he’s popular. The Canadian swamp (should we call them the Bog, you know, like the Borg?) want a leader who is UN-popular. That’s the sign of a great leader, taking your country in a direction that nobody wants is real leadership.
Actually, I would presume that at least a third of the country (perhaps even half the country) would like to take the direction PP is proposing, and the authoritarian elites know this, which is why they’re freaking out, so they would like you to *believe* that PP is out there on the fringes.
The title of pollster is generally a big tell. Most pollster are like whores – they will give you the results that you want in exchange for money – truth has nothing to do with that kind of commerce.
WTF is ‘acolyte of authoritarian populism’ if not just fear-mongering BS?
Projection.
That is a description of Graves best buddy, Turdeau.
Bingo! I defined “Authoritarian Populism” as an oxymoron. See my previous post in this thread. https://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2022/04/13/thumbs-on-the-scale/#comment-1623028
So “authoritarian populism” is what exactly? The guy doesn’t want us to have to wear cuck muzzles and show papers to do everyday things and he’s an authoritarian or something?
No, we’ve seen authoritarianism in action with Trudeau the pied piper of covid hysteria and want none of it.
Well, I may be literal-minded, but “authoritarian populism” to me means “authority of the people.”
Oxymoron! https://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2022/04/13/thumbs-on-the-scale/#comment-1623028
Who the fork does he think he is, this country doesn’t belong to toxic liberals like him. Oh the Lowrentian elites are scared to death, they are desperate, Pierre scares the low rent crowd witless.
From wikipedia:”In April 2010, the Conservative Party of Canada accused Graves of giving partisan advice to the Liberal Party of Canada, noting his donations to the party since 2003. An investigation conducted by the CBC ombudsman found no evidence to support these allegations, stating that personal donor history is not relevant to one’s objectivity as a pollster.”
Laugh out f***ing loud! CBC can conduct an investigation?! I guess they missed the many instances of sexual abuse by their stars.
Perhaps the liberal industry is afraid if Polievre wins the next federal election, he might not attend the (in)famous meeting at the Irving Lodge.
Graves is just another cog in the giant Liberal machine, which itself is a damned good reason for Western separation.
And now you know why PP wants to DEFUND THE CBC!
EKOS, official pollster of the CBC
Well let’s see….if I have to choose between “authoritarian populism” and “authoritarian globalism”, I know which way I’ll vote!
When the establishment morons stand against you, you’re on the right track.
“An investigation conducted by the CBC ombudsman found no evidence to support these allegations, stating that personal donor history is not relevant to one’s objectivity as a pollster.”
Hmmm…doesn’t sound like the CBC that doxxed trucker convoy donators, huh?
I didn’t realize that in a democracy the candidates running for the leadership of a party had to be approved by the pollsters.
In Canada, yes.
Frank Graves, what a f**king a**hole!! He has now exposed himself as the hack we all knew that he was.
Is this the new low that we have sunk to where the “neutral” pollsters have out and out declared their political allegiance without fearing a besmirching of their reputation? Looks like they are not afraid to get monetarily cut off from their paymasters of the Liberal Party of Canada.
I don’t know about everyone else, but this sounds like a physical threat to the health and safety of one of the potential leaders of one of the major political parties that may be in power to govern Canada. What sort of physical violence from an unstable or unhinged person or from Frank Graves himself could be caused by this towards Pierre Polievre? This should be referred to the RCMP as a threat in my opinion.
I don’t know what being an acolyte of populism means or is that code for TDS? And what if he was, what would it matter? Trudeau is an acolyte of communism and authoritarian dictatorship, and that doesn’t seem to cause any concern with the CBC or MSM or “pollsters”. Polievre is conservative and not very conservative at that, but I guess that is too much for the mainstream media these days.
It looks like in the end that we are just cattle that are to be taxed and nothing more, for the benefit of those to vote LPC.
Who is Frank Graves and should I give a shit?
No you shouldn’t. But this is a demonstration why, whoever wins the leadership, garners your vote. Anything to get the current fascist dick out of office. Don’t do another Manning, Perot or Bernier, we extinguish ourselves with this stupid shit. All of them were likely 100% right, but what did it leave us?
^ Yes +1
Frank Graves is the founder of an influential polling company in Canada,and he has the love of most of the msm, AND the Liberal Party, and THAT is why you should “give a shit”, if you’re a Canadian taxpayer,that is.
Graves will be quoted all over the media during the next election campaign, without a mention of his bias.
Baaahhhh! No worries! Just watch Polievre shove those words right down his throat!
Frank Graves is a sociology graduate from Carleton. Say no more.
“Mr. Graves graduated from Carleton University with a B.A. in Social Anthropology, M.A. in Sociology, and has completed doctoral coursework in Sociology.”
https://ekos.com/about-ekos/team/
Ah yes, Sociology, which along with Psychology and Education, are the traditional intellectual dumpsters of the post-secondary education system. Their modern equivalents are the various “Woke Studies” degrees.
Oh, and before I forget:
Frank Graves is Asshoe.
Ott MJ
IN other words he’s just a Bullshit Artist….no.?
Like EVERY LIBERAL I’ve ever met.
ZERO SUBSTANCE
Incapable of changing a tire type…
IOW USELESS….
Not a lot of math there.
Frank Graves is just another example of Laurentian elites telling the People of Canada how to think!!! Is it not time to enact the Clarity act!!!!? Or is it past time?
Maybe an accidental truth from the “Pollster”?
I have been suspecting pollsters of being far more dishonest than most citizens give them credit for.
Without the push polls and the fake claims of support for Demonic Candidates,made by pollsters..The election fraud would be impossible.
Pollsters and their preparing the masses through push polls are essential to successfully cheating the ballot count.
For if all pollster did was “measure” public opinion,why are there so many of them?
And why are 99% Libtards?
They must serve some function in this Kleptocracy,for their numbers keep growing.
You were just running PP down yesterday in another post Phucking little left wing weasel.
Oh how they love to label anyone who disagrees . This is not populism – this is decent hardworking people trying to save what they have struggled and worked for while being systematically smeared. And at this point it is in the hope that we leave freedom and prosperity for those who follow. With the recent tyrannical moves we are well on the path of not much to loose.
Kinsella advertises his stupidity and showcases his corruption and dishonesty.
Anything to get back his place fluffing Trudeau.
https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/kinsella-pierre-poilievre-has-the-conservative-hype-but-not-the-conservative-substance?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=TORSUN+MIDDAY+NEWSLETTER+2022-04-13&utm_term=TORSUN_YourMiddaySun&__vfz=medium%3Dstandalone_content_recirculation_with_ads
“But there was Pierre Poilievre in February, unambiguously expressing support for a bunch of law-breaking types who, somehow, had taken downtown Ottawa hostage. They were mostly the uninformed — but their leadership was a fetid stew of extremists and racists and lunatics, many of them now facing real-deal jail time. And there was Pierre, handing them coffee and posing for selfies with them.”
WK was is and always be a media Colon L general
In response to the Kornflake I would quote Bill Mahar
“You didn’t see the blackface?”
Can anyone explain to me what “Authoritarian Populism” is and how is it different than “Authoritarian Elitism” and is either any different than say Trudeau style ‘Authoritarianism’?
It’s an Ontario thing
Why are Canadians happy to have been hoodwinked by a snowboard instructor?
Aren’t they embarrassed?
Not that I care about the Tory race one way or another but this Graves dolt believes that a “conservative” simply parrots what the Liberals say.
Because that’s balance.
Actually, for a while there, the leader of the “conservative” party was doing exactly that.
“Thumbs on the Scale”
With the enthusiasm for following a bloke starting with “Z” wouldn’t that be a prick?
First they came for the authoritarian populists. Well, actually, the authoritarian populists came for them. Karma.
Who is buried in Frank Graves?