This is how they pad the stats the police chief likes to trot out as “success”.
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After watching Pat King’s video rolling out directions to the trucker convoys, I get the impression watching this video is the expression of an overt political act: Removing Anchor Pin on Semi Trailer Brakes
wanna get a REAAAAAL belly full of outrage? do a youtube search any variation ‘cops face lawsuit’ ‘cops beat senior citizen with hearing problems’ ‘cops taze 6 yr old’ ‘cops plant evidence’ cops cops cops cops. the vanguard into a new world order, turning the globe into a police state 10 square miles at a time.
yo, sda, there are NO ‘good cops’ anymore. the old school ‘good cop’ with a proper moral compass, THEY ARE LONG RETIRED. replaced by the standup comedy alluded to type high schooler too stooooopid to do anything but sign on and slake their urge to BULLY, or, wait for it, flip burgers.
NEVER TRUST ANY COP ANYWHERE ABOUT ANYTHING EVER. they WILL betray you when it suits them. *even one you personally know* aka who gets preferential treatment? you the suddenly ‘casual acquaintance’ or their colleagues that can and WILL make their life miserable if they ‘step over the line’. and what line is that? the one says ‘number 1 rule for a cop is NEVER RAT OUT ANOTHER COP. never ever make *another cop* look bad or no one will partner with you and your locker keeps getting smeared in corn syrup. etc etc
Ya, usually it’s grease and used engine oil but corn syrup works.
Fucking Nazis!
Embarrassing to every Canadian.
You know… they just might have done the protestors a favour.
Back the blue conservatives! Remember, these are just a few tens of thousands of bad apples. There are lots of good cops looking out for you! Donate to the police fund today!
How about I donate a jerrycan filled with pig manure?
can sumbuddy start a gofundme to pay for tattoos on the oinkers’ forehead to differentiate betwixt the ‘good’ cops that all look ‘tother way and the ‘bad apples’?
l got LAUGHED AT by some bad apples 1st time l ever *attempted* to report a theft. all the ‘good’ cops LET THEM GET AWAY WITH IT. oddly enough within 4 1/2 years 7 of the fcukwad shybrains all around the biggest hick town in Canaduh were. . . . were . . . . . . . . . . . . dead. aka Karma baby !! p.s. it worked. they dont laugh now. lm the one does all the laughing when ANY of them gets shot, run over, stabbed to death, any of countless ways Ms Karma dispatches a thug in blooo.
And that money donated will also go to the bad cops. So no don’t donate. Sorry Slaw.
Ya, that’s good you keystone cops. Arrest an old man for tooting his horn, yah that is sure some fine police work there Lou!
That is law and order for the left, let the brutish thugs burn down stores in BLM protests and arrest an old man for tooting.
Yup.
But the old man should have kept his cool and got out the paperwork.
Accepted the ticket and been on his way.
Then fight it in court with Rebels help, would have won anyway.
The guy filming gave him bad advice.
When stopped for whatever reason , it is the law , you have to provide ID and papers even if the cops already know the info from a plate check.
Like it or not , he could have avoided getting arrested .
I would love to have punched that cops ticket , in my dreams.
Live to fight another day, don’t let your emotions get the better of you.
not all of us are cowards like you John
And how many cops did you punch, oh Brave Sir Robin? Perchaps you could share a recording?
Not a Coward but a realist.
There are times to pick your battles.
And when confronted by a serious foe with a gun and taser sometimes retreat is wiser, especially if you are not so equipped.
With age comes wisdom Wally, best you learn that , it could save your life.
When you are stopped by the police you are under arrest (from the French arrete meaning “stop.”) You may be charged or held under suspicion or released. If incarcerated, the Magna Carta (1215 AD) and subsequent Common Law and later acts of parliament provides for habeas corpus meaning the Crown must show cause.
Of course, the Magna Carta was repealed by the left when police check stops and arbitrary search and seizure at the airports became the norm. Both actions specifically prohibited by the MC.
As citizens under arrest we are obligated to provide proper identification. It is the law of the land and I am OK with that.
As I always told my students, when you are dealing with the peace officers, don’t get into a nasty contest with them. You can ask for their ID and ask them to show you the law or regulation that applies, but always remember that they have the endless ticket book and pen.
I have heard too many drivers talk themselves into a ticket(s) because their mouth was rattling like a loose board in a truck.
You can always go to court.
If you are driving a vehicle you have to show ID, especially a drivers license. I’m not so sure if you have to show ID if you are just walking down the sidewalk. That sounds pretty Fascist to me.
The old guy should have provided his ID, and probably not told the cop to F off. That sort of gets cops a little miffed.
Yah Yah Yah to all those above backing the cop and how wrong the old dude was.
How about this. The old man was harassed, all he did was blow his horn and the dirty pig stopped him. Yah the old man got rattled and excited. But why was the Cop, PIG GESTAPO HARRASSING HIM OVER BLOWING HIS HORN. Fuck the cop after watching them beat manhandle taser and abuse people all over the world over forcing a mandate for an illegal act they can fuck off and die for all I care.
Good For You Old Man
I suspect this stop originated at the morning roll call.
Watcher…..where da Fk you been..??
Am in agreement 100% on your post.
Pure NAZI harrassment – Period. Change that phuques uniform to one of grey/green Wehrmacht and it would fit right into a history book. Fuck him.
On another note, Been to the last 2 Freedom Rally’s in Calgary…police have been on their best behaviour…. But had to laugh as we walked 17th ave….around 9th street some Red Clad Chinese AGENT IM sure standing there giving 30,000 folks the 1 finger salute. ChiCom pos for certain…and ugly..!!
“If you are driving a vehicle you have to show ID, especially a drivers license. I’m not so sure if you have to show ID if you are just walking down the sidewalk. That sounds pretty Fascist to me.”
Yes to the first situation, no to the second. If you are just walking down the street (or even a passenger in a car) you don’t even have to tell the police what time it is, never mind identify yourself.
How can these worthless pieces of shit act like this? I’m sure they are going to brag about the high risk arrest they did today.
Note that the cowards didn’t do this near the protesters, who would no doubt take issue with mistreatment of the elderly, as any decent human being would.
Just so everyone knows, if the police stop you you are legally required to give your name and address but that is it. You don’t have to provide any further information.
The guy was driving on the road so I’m pretty sure drivers license and proof of insurance is also required.
“Just so everyone knows, if the police stop you you are legally required to give your name and address but that is it. You don’t have to provide any further information.”
NOT TRUE, sorry.
You aren’t required to even speak to them *unless* they are either charging you with an offense or writing you a ticket for one.
He is probably one of those bouncy castle criminals.
And a tough looking guy, at that.
“None of your fucking concern.”
Well, there’s a fine way for a law enforcement officer to respond.
In addition, the one cop claims his name is “Jones”. Lemme guess. Your partner in crime was, “Smith”?
Look out, this is the Australian variant of policing, go after the elderly, small women, moms with young kids.
That’s why we see the city gangs do smash and grabs while police watch, too much hard work.
I think the burley truckers are going to fare well.
SA – Ottawa Police.
I don’t see much difference whatsoever.
What a Scumbag…just another asshole who put on the uniform to assauge his need to beat on people.
….then after his shift he goes home and beats off to the movie Roadhouse.
The old fellah looks like he could have been a Russian Jew who fled communism and oppression in Russia only to find it again in Canada.
I’ve got a Canadian $2 bill I’d put on that. It was my very first thought that’s what he was.
I lose my twofer, his name is Charlebois.
So sad. He’ll get PTSD now, poor old fella.
Feisty old guy. He’ll be fine. Great story to tell the grand-kids. “I had him, but then he called for back-up”.
Governments always find some group to oppress to fulfill their own agenda. The three levels of government feel their power being threatened. As I’ve said earlier violence is the last form of politics , this video just confirms it, not everyone is going to comply and remain rational on both sides. Someone is going to get seriously hurt or die soon if this doesn’t get deescalated.
It’s all about public health right!
“Someone is going to get seriously hurt or die soon if this doesn’t get deescalated.”
That mentally ill police chief sure talked like he wanted to go down to the Bouncy Castle and make some corpses. That guy talked like one sick fcuk.
But he honked his horn!
Meanwhile, according to the Paper of Record, “Trudeau Orders All Geese Rounded Up And Shot For Honking In Solidarity With Truckers”:
“‘We now view the Canadian Goose as an enemy of the state,’ said Trudeau in a statement over Zoom. ‘If you see something, say something. We must end this fascist honking once and for all.’
Trudeau, visibly shaken by honking geese, claims the attack on his tyranny has exacerbated his fake COVID diagnosis. ‘I may never be able to meet with the truckers face to face and it’s all because of these hateful geese, not because I’m afraid,’ he said.
Minister of Health Jean-Yves Duclos echoed his dear leader’s sentiments when he spoke with the press on Monday morning. ‘Trucks honk. Fascists honk. Geese honk,’ he said. ‘Get it?’
According to sources, Trudeau is expected to stay in hiding until the Geese migrate north in the spring.”
This is the same force who asked a young lady where she was going early in the am a decade ago.
She told them it was none of their business.
They arrested her and strip searched her because that’s what bully-cowards do.
These two arseholes are really tough.
Like to see them get tazed.
The Grope and Fail. Angry a decade ago. Now cheering on the Gestapo.
The ole Mop and Pail newspaper.
I’ve started to wonder if the police in this country are way past the gas chamber guards in jolly old Germany.
They were just the guards, right! – Just following orders, eh.
I am now wondering if these current bastards will pull the trigger, if so ordered?
Van and suburban loads of armed to the teeth black ops cops driving right through the middle of peaceful old lady demonstrators this past Saturday in Toronto.
Ready for their border scene of Sicario.
A history review of how many normal Germans behaved badly under Hitler will answer your question. If a tyrant like Trudeau was able to establish absolute control , Canada could easily become 1930’s Germany and the police would obediently follow his orders.
What they REALLY ought to have filmed is the face of the Karen looking through her window from behind the curtains. She called the police. She didn’t want to HEAR from the opposition anymore. Meanwhile cop Klaus was just following orders.
Interrupted her sleep while working for the feds.
Something tells me that this LOM found the home address of a particular MP or federal bureaucrat operative that he wanted to target with his contrary honking opinion. Good for him. Obtain pro Bono legal help in fighting your ticket … clog the gawd damned courts. Jam em up.
Wonder if they will arrest me when I go down there with some cash for the truckers? Oh well, 3 squares, a place to sleep, doctor on site. And I’m too old for them to really make me do anything other than light chores. My new retirement plan?
And dental. Go in with bad teeth come out with pearly whites.
It just gets better! I’ll have to make sure to put the cash in a jerry can then. Another added bonus: I don’t have to think of what I’m going to make for dinner.
What shreds of respect I have for police in Canada just got flushed. And they’ll stay flushed until other cops speak out against this insanity.
Tell ya what coppers… this is why you’re going to find less and less law abiding citizens willing to help you. The natural end of that progression are coppers shot by gang bangers, bleeding out in the streets while no one offers first aid or calls 911. Become the enemy, get treated like the enemy.
suffice to say l look forward to standing over a cop. serious bullet injury, their lifeblood draining out of them, pleading for a 911 call that WILL NOT HAPPEN, mocking them, laughing about THEIR loss they way THEY laughed about MINE.
if’n it all gets recorded, all the better. there is NO obligation to dial 911. ya, toss me in a holding cell but PROVE l had ANYTHING to do with your woe begotten now DEAD colleague other than do EXACTLY what you copsssss did to me.
you refuse FOUR TIMES to look at surveillance video when *lm* the victim? you dont cooperate with ME the VICTIM? what in all existence makes you think lm *ever* going to cooperate with you mouthy shitbrains? hmmm?
Funny you should say that.
Just yesterday had one of my guys short on cash at Tims wanting an extra coffee.
Was gonna hand him some change and the cop behind him says he will pay for it.
Shocked the crap out of me.
Some are not azzholes.
Do cops still get free coffee at Tim Horton’s?
Not really.
But my worker is a big Native, so that could have something to do with it.
The cops always have the option of saying, “Don’t let it happen again.” and drive away. This is a shit storm of their own making. Why would any cop ever arrest someone for a by-law or minor traffic offense? You give a ticket and go. These guys are just assholes telling the world how important they are and that we are not.
Totally. Its simply bullying and thuggery. Typical Liberal response to opposition.
Somebody in Ottawa will recognize these brownshirts, masked or not. Take names and make lists.
A couple of angry and cowardly low IQ thugs, thats why they’re cops because they’re stupid.
It takes a special type of cowardice and ignorance to physically assault a senior citizen.
Glad someone was there to film these two mentally unstable gangsters.
A friend of mine once honked at a cop and gave him the finger. He was given a ticket for ‘use of a horn not condusive to safety’. This was decades ago in Nova Scotia. Technically the cop in this video might have been correct that honking for no reason is a minor offence. However, man-handling a senior citizen for this who was literally half his size in front of a camera was beyond idiotic. The government and the police are showing signs of panic. They are scared.
I would of told the cop I honked because I’m afraid of the police, wanna watch the Stasi back off?
Um the cops aren’t allowed to stop and demand your name and address without just cause, the high court has already ruled random stop and searches of a person or their vehicle is a violation of the charter. What reason did the cop have for harassing an old man?
Honking, apparently.
Rose, enforcing the Highway Traffic Act is not harassment.
HTA 75 (4) … a person having control of a motor vehicle cannot sound the horn so as to make an unreasonable noise …
The police were correct to stop and issue a ticket to the “little old man” for sounding his horn “in protest or support” of the truckers.
SDA ain’t what it used to be. Lots of idiots on this blog.
Laws unevenly enforced are not laws – they are weapons to be used against your opponents. How many “horn honking” tickets have they issued around protests the government of the day supports?
Well, your name works well for you, dick man. Not much else, though. You a cop? Did you miss where they escalated instead of defusing? Or are you just an asshat on general principle?
So, Dan S. would you counsel the little old man to argue in court that the police failed to issue tickets to “other drivers” under HTA sec 75 (4) which nullifies the ticket he received? You must be a lawyer.
And the Tired of Idiots, idiot, did not understand the part in the video where the little old man failed to identify himself when asked to do so by the police officer … which he is required to do under law pursuant to his operation of a motor vehicle.
Dan and the Idiot … the real dumb and dumber.
I hate saying this but ya.
Unfortunately I think the video guy inflamed the situation.
If he wasn’t there maybe the cop would have just given the old man a warning and been on his way.
He was scared.
It works for the boomer Karens.
Wrong the courts have ruled stopping vehicles randomly without just cause, like a broken light, is a violation of our charter rights. The police can’t stop you and demand anything unless a law has been broken, might be broken or in the process of being broken.
Rose’s comment suggests that the police randomly pulled over the little old man and violated his “charter rights”. Except that the little old man was allegedly honking his horn, presumably to support the truckers, while he was driving in a residential area and that’s in contravention of the HTA. He was lawfully stopped by the police and asked for his drivers license. It appears he did not have one. The police did an outstanding job.
Don’t be a dick man.
Charter of Rights and Freedoms trumps the Highway Traffic Act.
“(b) freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication”
He was not just honking his horn. He was harmlessly expressing himself, politically.
So, scar, if you were defending the little old man on a Highway Traffic Act offence, you’d make a Charter argument? It’s your contention that HTA 75 (4) is unconstitutional? What about municipal noise bylaws? Are they also an infringement on our rights?
RN wants to use the squirrel argument. Great idea. How long did the little old man honk his horn? How far did the police follow him while he was honking his horn? How many squirrels were involved? Dozens? Hundreds perhaps? The HTA offence is not why the little old man was arrested. The little old man did not provide a drivers license when he was lawfully requested to do so and it looks to me like he was resisting … maybe trying to get back into his vehicle. The officer did an outstanding job.
BTW, the dude who was recording the video sounded a bit retarded. Hope he get home safely.
“The officer did an outstanding job.”
You mean he deescalated the situation and calmed things down? By calmly explaining to the old guy that he is given incorrect information by the onlooker and what information he is required to provide under the circumstances. No, he immediately embraced his inner thug. Right from the start the thug was out in plain sight, right when he responded with “Not your fucking concern”. He is unfit to carry a badge (sadly this seems to be a requirement these days) and you’re a piece of excrement for defending him. The world would be a better place if both of those thugs and you had cancer.
You hit the nail dead on the head with your observation of the badged goon’s response. Immediately escalate and go to physical force.
I have used the Charter of Rights in a traffic case and won. I won because once I gave notice of a Charter challenge they dropped the case. They had towed my car and I requested my towing fee back and the nice RCMP, after a year delay from the court order, wrote me a cheque.
From dickhead “And scar, are you suggesting the Crown withdrew a traffic ticket against you because they considered you to be an expert in constitutional law?”
In my case it wouldn’t take an expert. They simply didn’t want to invest the time arguing a chickenshit case that might set a bad precedent. I knew that they often drop such cases. It was a check stop that had police, fish cops, transportation cops, mechanics, environment department cops and likely others. My basic question was, “Why was I stopped and was it reasonable.” The prosecution didn’t want to answer the question. I am not sure such a check stop would yet pass legal muster. Not a lawyer. Never lost a case in tax court for two reasons. I would never take an unwinnable case to tax court and in all but one case the government lawyer settled before it went to court. In the other one it was nice to hear my name mentioned in every tax seminar I took for the next 20 years. Winnable cases are usually the product of someone else’s incompetence not any particular competence.
Tax court? There’s a tax court in Canada?
And you studied tax law in seminars for twenty years? And they keep mentioning your name because you established legal precedents in “tax court”? And you fight traffic tickets with constitutional arguments?
Well scar, if you don’t represent that little old man in traffic court, maybe you can do his taxes?
Did your pride in understanding HTA 75 (4) get the better of you?
Did you just blow your cover while searching for “unacceptable opinions” Officer Dickhead?
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No, I’m not looking for “unacceptable opinions” fisherboy … but I am surprised at how paranoid and delusional you are. You have so much anger. Be careful about trying to intimidate or threaten when you’re on the internet. Don’t write something that’ll get you in trouble fisherboy.
And scar, are you suggesting the Crown withdrew a traffic ticket against you because they considered you to be an expert in constitutional law? You’re just as delusional as fisherboy. Must have been frustrating waiting for the Mounties to pay up … but well done, you’re the King of Traffic Court. lmao … maybe you can be the little old man’s lawyer.
And colon, maybe you should send a written complaint to the Ottawa Police. Send them copies of your comments from this blog. Tell them you saw a video on SDA that triggered you and that the Ottawa Police pulled over a little old man who was honking at squirrels while he drove without a license.
The cops were keeping the community safe by getting that little old man off the roads. He didn’t have a license and he was clearly out of control. The cops in this video did an outstanding job.
So your response is to complain to cops about cops acting like thugs? Is that it? So the cops can investigate cops and decide that cops did nothing wrong?
Both cops are just low IQ thugs, acting out their high school bully fantasies, and you’re their fellator. That is all.
Old man saw squirrel in the road, cop must have bad eyes and missed it.
Hey dick man, are you a pitcher or a catcher?
“The More Laws, The Less Justice.” ~Marcus Tullius Cicero
Honking your horn in a demonstration for charter rights is not in any way unreasonable.
Honking your horn to keep up your assh*le landlord at 3AM is unreasonable.
(Dont ask me how I know that).
The police were correct to stop and issue a ticket to the “little old man” for sounding his horn “in protest or support” of the truckers.
Your moniker is apt.
Ever get pulled over for speeding and let off with a warning? Lots of people have; it was when a cop could have enforced the letter of the law but used personal discretion instead.
That could have been done here; the cop chose to go all-in and things got out of control with the camera rolling. Added to that was the obvious attitude by the cops and the thing presents terribly for the Ottawa police. I’d wager he wasn’t congratulated but was reamed by his staff sgt when he returned to his division.
Sorry, Dickhead, or UnMe or whatever, this was a big flaming bag o’ shite that the cops jumped on with gusto and they’re paying the price. A bit of discretion by the cop – talking to the old guy and giving him a warning – would have addressed all sides of the issue – but wouldn’t satisfy the “Go Jackboots!” fascists like you, who would be tickled to see the old guy tased.
Now run along. There are probably local cops waiting impatiently for you to give their duty boots a good tongue washing.
mhb23re
Couldn’t watch the whole video. A lot of overreaction by all players in the video and in the comments, especially behind the camera. What do you expect will happen if you just keep upping the bet when nobodies bluffing. Everyone needs to take a pill. I’m out.
I agree, But since this situation may arise for anybody here in the future some knowledge of the related law is useful.
1. DO POLICE HAVE TO IDENTIFY THEMSELVES IN CANADA?
If a police officer is in plain clothes, they must tell you they are a police officer before trying to arrest, detain, or search you.
If a police officer is uniformed, they do not have to tell you they are an officer, but if you ask, they must provide their name and badge number.
Police usually have to identify themselves before entering your home or private property.
2. CAN YOU REFUSE TO SHOW ID TO THE POLICE IN CANADA?
You cannot refuse to present your ID if you are being stopped while driving or operating some kind of vehicle.
You can refuse to show your ID to police if you are a passenger in a vehicle or if they stop you on the street, unless they are investigating a crime that has occurred or they are detaining you.
Police cannot ask for your ID because of your race, because you are in a high crime area, because you refused to answer a question, or because you walked away.
Police must tell you why they want to see your ID, that you can refuse to show them your ID, and that you can refuse to give them your name and date of birth.
If you are unsure what to do, you can ask the officer “Am I being detained?”, or “Am I free to go?” – If they say that you are not being detained, you are free to walk away without identifying yourself.
3. I DON’T ANSWER QUESTIONS – A CANADIAN PERSPECTIVE
“I don’t answer questions” is a powerful statement, as you have a right to remain silent. If an officer attempts to stop you on the street, you can simply ask them if you are being arrested or detained. If they say no, you can walk off in silence.
If you are detained or arrested by police, they have to immediately inform you as to why you are being detained, then immediately provide you with your rights, which include the right to silence and the right to speak to a lawyer of your choice. Lawyers will advise you NOT to speak to police.
Courts are forbidden from associating silence with guilt or suspicion. Not providing a statement to police is usually in your best interest as anything you say can be used against you as evidence of the offence. If detained, you should give your name and date of birth, but it is typically not recommended to say anything else.
Police can continue to ask you questions and will often use a variety of techniques to try and get you to speak to them, even after you have told them multiple times you do not wish to answer any questions. You can simply reply that you are asserting your right to silence, but understand that does not prohibit them from asking questions, so be prepared to offer that reply over and over.
If you are pulled over in your car under the Highway Traffic Act, police do have the ability to ask you questions you are compelled to answer. These questions MUST be restricted to the driver and must be directly related to the sobriety of the drive, the licensing and insurance of the driver and ownership of the vehicle, and the fitness of the vehicle. Any other questions can only result from a proper arrest or detention, and must follow the same protocol listed above.
Interesting read. I’d like to hear a lawyer’s perspective, but most of what you’ve said makes good sense. There are many YT vids explaining why it’s solid advice not to give police any more info than ID required by law, and to ask “Am i being detained” if questioned.
Talking in a reasonable tone might help prevent a situation from going sideways, too; I don’t imagine many cops use discretion and let people off with warnings who present themselves as utter jerks. A power tripping cop will probably happily go authoritarian on someone mouthing off and a regular guy doing his job may decide the polite motorist he stopped gets off with a warning.
Regardless, it pays to know your rights and options in case you are stopped.
mhb23re
YouTube says this has only 6k views. How do we make sure viewership of this increases exponentially? Any ideas?
Fox News?
Yep. Send to Tucker ,Hannity, Newsroom, etc. should have heard the morning girl go on about it (protest) this morning about 5 am. She was great.
Jackbooted thugs acting out their high school bully fantasies. Hey enema69, The Awful Truth and other jackboot lickers, are you paying attention yet?
If the cops didnt detain him, he could have honked again.
These two louts will be protected by their union but their behaviour is now a matter of public record. They should be detained next time they emerge in public. Strapped to a lamppost and their facemasks removed so they can be photographed and publicly shamed. Rather like the medieval practice of putting such people in the stocks to be shamed. They have already shamed their uniform. It is now time for the individuals to face the music.
Somebody used the videos from the Penal Colony of Australia as a teaching tool,
Possibly the most violent incident in the entire protest…
And, using Just-ins logic, all cops are bullies who gang up on old, defenseless people.
The geheime stats polizie are out doing herr sheizekopf bidding. disgusting in canada. everyone should juststart honking their horns.
**gestapo to you plebians, figure out sheizekopf yourselves
Not quite the Gestapo, those people will haul you from your home in dead of night for blogging against castreau or donating to the truckers.
These two are more the Sturmabteilung Brownshirt type of d-bag.
mhb23re
Wow that was crazy. Kudos to the person videoing it all and sticking up for the gentleman. Those 2 officers are going to be hating it tomorrow.
The other thing that sucks about this is he’s going to have to find a new hiding spot in his van.
Sounds to me that this is now totally disregarded in modern policing. It’s obvious these two goons have never been taught it.
Sir Robert Peel’s Nine Principles of Policing
1.To prevent crime and disorder, as an alternative to their repression by military force and severity of legal punishment.
2.To recognise always that the power of the police to fulfil their functions and duties is dependent on public approval of their existence, actions and behaviour, and on their ability to secure and maintain public respect.
3.To recognise always that to secure and maintain the respect and approval of the public means also the securing of the willing co-operation of the public in the task of securing observance of laws.
4.To recognise always that the extent to which the co-operation of the public can be secured diminishes proportionately the necessity of the use of physical force and compulsion for achieving police objectives.
5.To seek and preserve public favour, not by pandering to public opinion, but by constantly demonstrating absolutely impartial service to law, in complete independence of policy, and without regard to the justice or injustice of the substance of individual laws, by ready offering of individual service and friendship to all members of the public without regard to their wealth or social standing, by ready exercise of courtesy and friendly good humour, and by ready offering of individual sacrifice in protecting and preserving life.
6.To use physical force only when the exercise of persuasion, advice and warning is found to be insufficient to obtain public co-operation to an extent necessary to secure observance of law or to restore order, and to use only the minimum degree of physical force which is necessary on any particular occasion for achieving a police objective.
7.To maintain at all times a relationship with the public that gives reality to the historic tradition that the police are the public and that the public are the police, the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full-time attention to duties which are incumbent on every citizen in the interests of community welfare and existence.
8.To recognise always the need for strict adherence to police-executive functions, and to refrain from even seeming to usurp the powers of the judiciary, of avenging individuals or the State, and of authoritatively judging guilt and punishing the guilty.
9.To recognise always that the test of police efficiency is the absence of crime and disorder, and not the visible evidence of police action in dealing with them.
Great read, that. Thanks for posting.
A clear video of the license plate and or side number of the police vehicle along with the time stamp on your video pretty much defines which police officers are in the vehicle at that time.
The real Larry Dickman.
Playing the man is a losing proposition and makes you look very defensive and arrogant.
What I saw was two angry and, almost certainly very frustrated cops, after all they have terrible leadership and are in an unenviable and difficult position regards current public opinion but that does not excuse their abusive and definitely unprofessional attitudes and behavior. They have done their profession and the Ottawa police force no favor at all. They just applied another push on the pendulum of public opinion that is already rapidly swinging against them.
The Ottawa police took a driver without a license off the road. If you consider their conduct to be unprofessional then do something about it. You hate the cops, I understand that. So, be a man and file a complaint instead of posting anonymous ad hominum attacks against someone you do not know on this pathetic blog. Be a man old timer.
“So, be a man and file a complaint … ”
Which will achieve absolutely nothing because cops a lynch a man to death Casino style, get investigated but other cops and cops will decide that cops did nothing wrong. Besides since when does filling a complaint counts as “being a man”?
And if the blog is “pathetic” in your opinion, I assure you we have been doing great without you. FOAD.
Sundance has it at the Treehouse.
He compares against Australia.
So a lawyer named Paul Champ makes a video and gets an injunction against honking and the police brutalize an old man. A Human Rights lawyer.
I wish everyone could focus on the fact he WAS an old man. He was being roughed up by a guy twice his size. Larry-very aptly named, one day you will be old. Lets hope the cops do not do this to you when your are this man’s age (well kinda). Your lack of compassion is stark and frankly, I find it upsetting. Similarly I find the policemen’s equally bad. They showed no skills at managing a situation or the reasonable use of force. Not to mention enforcing a law in a obviously vexatious manner. I hope the old guy gets a lawyer and gets their asses canned. I am guessing he will.
Put away your ‘Law for Dummies’ books and look into your soul.
I am guessing there is one still. There is never anything good in big policemen rough housing old men. Never
My dad was a cop for 30 years.
Larry the cop here was abusing his power and loving every minute of it.
If he’s still a cop a year from now, its because whatever force employs him is rotten to the top.
Sad to see.
In hindsight.
Get with the narrative,as this act of stupid violence goes viral,your intellectual superiors over at CTV,CBC and Global will all explain that the two uniformed actors are not Policemen at all..
No no these are paid activists working for the Evil Freedom Convoy,staging a scene to make the valiant and law abiding Ottawa Police look like Government Thugs..
Remember it is not lying when CBC does it.
Now us old fashioned tax paying types call it lying and deceit by omission,but this is what our Presstitutes do..so as it is the new normal of State Newz,
CBCing is the correct phrase..
For last night,only the CBC clown could see “Lines of Tow trucks” of which zero pictures emerged and no other on site witnesses could see them..
CBCing your audience.
After watching Pat King’s video rolling out directions to the trucker convoys, I get the impression watching this video is the expression of an overt political act: Removing Anchor Pin on Semi Trailer Brakes
https://youtu.be/VwAuDrmLMEw
wanna get a REAAAAAL belly full of outrage? do a youtube search any variation ‘cops face lawsuit’ ‘cops beat senior citizen with hearing problems’ ‘cops taze 6 yr old’ ‘cops plant evidence’ cops cops cops cops. the vanguard into a new world order, turning the globe into a police state 10 square miles at a time.
yo, sda, there are NO ‘good cops’ anymore. the old school ‘good cop’ with a proper moral compass, THEY ARE LONG RETIRED. replaced by the standup comedy alluded to type high schooler too stooooopid to do anything but sign on and slake their urge to BULLY, or, wait for it, flip burgers.
NEVER TRUST ANY COP ANYWHERE ABOUT ANYTHING EVER. they WILL betray you when it suits them. *even one you personally know* aka who gets preferential treatment? you the suddenly ‘casual acquaintance’ or their colleagues that can and WILL make their life miserable if they ‘step over the line’. and what line is that? the one says ‘number 1 rule for a cop is NEVER RAT OUT ANOTHER COP. never ever make *another cop* look bad or no one will partner with you and your locker keeps getting smeared in corn syrup. etc etc
Ya, usually it’s grease and used engine oil but corn syrup works.
Fucking Nazis!
Embarrassing to every Canadian.
You know… they just might have done the protestors a favour.
Back the blue conservatives! Remember, these are just a few tens of thousands of bad apples. There are lots of good cops looking out for you! Donate to the police fund today!
How about I donate a jerrycan filled with pig manure?
can sumbuddy start a gofundme to pay for tattoos on the oinkers’ forehead to differentiate betwixt the ‘good’ cops that all look ‘tother way and the ‘bad apples’?
l got LAUGHED AT by some bad apples 1st time l ever *attempted* to report a theft. all the ‘good’ cops LET THEM GET AWAY WITH IT. oddly enough within 4 1/2 years 7 of the fcukwad shybrains all around the biggest hick town in Canaduh were. . . . were . . . . . . . . . . . . dead. aka Karma baby !! p.s. it worked. they dont laugh now. lm the one does all the laughing when ANY of them gets shot, run over, stabbed to death, any of countless ways Ms Karma dispatches a thug in blooo.
And that money donated will also go to the bad cops. So no don’t donate. Sorry Slaw.
Ya, that’s good you keystone cops. Arrest an old man for tooting his horn, yah that is sure some fine police work there Lou!
That is law and order for the left, let the brutish thugs burn down stores in BLM protests and arrest an old man for tooting.
Yup.
But the old man should have kept his cool and got out the paperwork.
Accepted the ticket and been on his way.
Then fight it in court with Rebels help, would have won anyway.
The guy filming gave him bad advice.
When stopped for whatever reason , it is the law , you have to provide ID and papers even if the cops already know the info from a plate check.
Like it or not , he could have avoided getting arrested .
I would love to have punched that cops ticket , in my dreams.
Live to fight another day, don’t let your emotions get the better of you.
not all of us are cowards like you John
And how many cops did you punch, oh Brave Sir Robin? Perchaps you could share a recording?
Not a Coward but a realist.
There are times to pick your battles.
And when confronted by a serious foe with a gun and taser sometimes retreat is wiser, especially if you are not so equipped.
With age comes wisdom Wally, best you learn that , it could save your life.
When you are stopped by the police you are under arrest (from the French arrete meaning “stop.”) You may be charged or held under suspicion or released. If incarcerated, the Magna Carta (1215 AD) and subsequent Common Law and later acts of parliament provides for habeas corpus meaning the Crown must show cause.
Of course, the Magna Carta was repealed by the left when police check stops and arbitrary search and seizure at the airports became the norm. Both actions specifically prohibited by the MC.
As citizens under arrest we are obligated to provide proper identification. It is the law of the land and I am OK with that.
As I always told my students, when you are dealing with the peace officers, don’t get into a nasty contest with them. You can ask for their ID and ask them to show you the law or regulation that applies, but always remember that they have the endless ticket book and pen.
I have heard too many drivers talk themselves into a ticket(s) because their mouth was rattling like a loose board in a truck.
You can always go to court.
If you are driving a vehicle you have to show ID, especially a drivers license. I’m not so sure if you have to show ID if you are just walking down the sidewalk. That sounds pretty Fascist to me.
The old guy should have provided his ID, and probably not told the cop to F off. That sort of gets cops a little miffed.
Yah Yah Yah to all those above backing the cop and how wrong the old dude was.
How about this. The old man was harassed, all he did was blow his horn and the dirty pig stopped him. Yah the old man got rattled and excited. But why was the Cop, PIG GESTAPO HARRASSING HIM OVER BLOWING HIS HORN. Fuck the cop after watching them beat manhandle taser and abuse people all over the world over forcing a mandate for an illegal act they can fuck off and die for all I care.
Good For You Old Man
I suspect this stop originated at the morning roll call.
Watcher…..where da Fk you been..??
Am in agreement 100% on your post.
Pure NAZI harrassment – Period. Change that phuques uniform to one of grey/green Wehrmacht and it would fit right into a history book. Fuck him.
On another note, Been to the last 2 Freedom Rally’s in Calgary…police have been on their best behaviour…. But had to laugh as we walked 17th ave….around 9th street some Red Clad Chinese AGENT IM sure standing there giving 30,000 folks the 1 finger salute. ChiCom pos for certain…and ugly..!!
“If you are driving a vehicle you have to show ID, especially a drivers license. I’m not so sure if you have to show ID if you are just walking down the sidewalk. That sounds pretty Fascist to me.”
Yes to the first situation, no to the second. If you are just walking down the street (or even a passenger in a car) you don’t even have to tell the police what time it is, never mind identify yourself.
How can these worthless pieces of shit act like this? I’m sure they are going to brag about the high risk arrest they did today.
Note that the cowards didn’t do this near the protesters, who would no doubt take issue with mistreatment of the elderly, as any decent human being would.
Just so everyone knows, if the police stop you you are legally required to give your name and address but that is it. You don’t have to provide any further information.
The guy was driving on the road so I’m pretty sure drivers license and proof of insurance is also required.
“Just so everyone knows, if the police stop you you are legally required to give your name and address but that is it. You don’t have to provide any further information.”
NOT TRUE, sorry.
You aren’t required to even speak to them *unless* they are either charging you with an offense or writing you a ticket for one.
He is probably one of those bouncy castle criminals.
And a tough looking guy, at that.
“None of your fucking concern.”
Well, there’s a fine way for a law enforcement officer to respond.
In addition, the one cop claims his name is “Jones”. Lemme guess. Your partner in crime was, “Smith”?
Look out, this is the Australian variant of policing, go after the elderly, small women, moms with young kids.
That’s why we see the city gangs do smash and grabs while police watch, too much hard work.
I think the burley truckers are going to fare well.
SA – Ottawa Police.
I don’t see much difference whatsoever.
What a Scumbag…just another asshole who put on the uniform to assauge his need to beat on people.
….then after his shift he goes home and beats off to the movie Roadhouse.
The old fellah looks like he could have been a Russian Jew who fled communism and oppression in Russia only to find it again in Canada.
I’ve got a Canadian $2 bill I’d put on that. It was my very first thought that’s what he was.
I lose my twofer, his name is Charlebois.
So sad. He’ll get PTSD now, poor old fella.
Feisty old guy. He’ll be fine. Great story to tell the grand-kids. “I had him, but then he called for back-up”.
Governments always find some group to oppress to fulfill their own agenda. The three levels of government feel their power being threatened. As I’ve said earlier violence is the last form of politics , this video just confirms it, not everyone is going to comply and remain rational on both sides. Someone is going to get seriously hurt or die soon if this doesn’t get deescalated.
It’s all about public health right!
“Someone is going to get seriously hurt or die soon if this doesn’t get deescalated.”
That mentally ill police chief sure talked like he wanted to go down to the Bouncy Castle and make some corpses. That guy talked like one sick fcuk.
But he honked his horn!
Meanwhile, according to the Paper of Record, “Trudeau Orders All Geese Rounded Up And Shot For Honking In Solidarity With Truckers”:
“‘We now view the Canadian Goose as an enemy of the state,’ said Trudeau in a statement over Zoom. ‘If you see something, say something. We must end this fascist honking once and for all.’
Trudeau, visibly shaken by honking geese, claims the attack on his tyranny has exacerbated his fake COVID diagnosis. ‘I may never be able to meet with the truckers face to face and it’s all because of these hateful geese, not because I’m afraid,’ he said.
Minister of Health Jean-Yves Duclos echoed his dear leader’s sentiments when he spoke with the press on Monday morning. ‘Trucks honk. Fascists honk. Geese honk,’ he said. ‘Get it?’
According to sources, Trudeau is expected to stay in hiding until the Geese migrate north in the spring.”
https://babylonbee.com/news/trudeau-orders-all-geese-rounded-up-and-shot-for-honking-in-solidarity-with-truckers
Each of these guys can save this video and submit it with a resume to apply for the upcoming Boxcars Of People Train Loader jobs they’re hoping for.
I encountered similar crap each time I went through the security check-in at the Edmonton airport.
Nothing has changed.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/strip-searched-ottawa-woman-sues-police/article1320301/
This is the same force who asked a young lady where she was going early in the am a decade ago.
She told them it was none of their business.
They arrested her and strip searched her because that’s what bully-cowards do.
These two arseholes are really tough.
Like to see them get tazed.
The Grope and Fail. Angry a decade ago. Now cheering on the Gestapo.
The ole Mop and Pail newspaper.
I’ve started to wonder if the police in this country are way past the gas chamber guards in jolly old Germany.
They were just the guards, right! – Just following orders, eh.
I am now wondering if these current bastards will pull the trigger, if so ordered?
Van and suburban loads of armed to the teeth black ops cops driving right through the middle of peaceful old lady demonstrators this past Saturday in Toronto.
Ready for their border scene of Sicario.
A history review of how many normal Germans behaved badly under Hitler will answer your question. If a tyrant like Trudeau was able to establish absolute control , Canada could easily become 1930’s Germany and the police would obediently follow his orders.
What they REALLY ought to have filmed is the face of the Karen looking through her window from behind the curtains. She called the police. She didn’t want to HEAR from the opposition anymore. Meanwhile cop Klaus was just following orders.
Interrupted her sleep while working for the feds.
Something tells me that this LOM found the home address of a particular MP or federal bureaucrat operative that he wanted to target with his contrary honking opinion. Good for him. Obtain pro Bono legal help in fighting your ticket … clog the gawd damned courts. Jam em up.
Wonder if they will arrest me when I go down there with some cash for the truckers? Oh well, 3 squares, a place to sleep, doctor on site. And I’m too old for them to really make me do anything other than light chores. My new retirement plan?
And dental. Go in with bad teeth come out with pearly whites.
It just gets better! I’ll have to make sure to put the cash in a jerry can then. Another added bonus: I don’t have to think of what I’m going to make for dinner.
What shreds of respect I have for police in Canada just got flushed. And they’ll stay flushed until other cops speak out against this insanity.
Tell ya what coppers… this is why you’re going to find less and less law abiding citizens willing to help you. The natural end of that progression are coppers shot by gang bangers, bleeding out in the streets while no one offers first aid or calls 911. Become the enemy, get treated like the enemy.
suffice to say l look forward to standing over a cop. serious bullet injury, their lifeblood draining out of them, pleading for a 911 call that WILL NOT HAPPEN, mocking them, laughing about THEIR loss they way THEY laughed about MINE.
if’n it all gets recorded, all the better. there is NO obligation to dial 911. ya, toss me in a holding cell but PROVE l had ANYTHING to do with your woe begotten now DEAD colleague other than do EXACTLY what you copsssss did to me.
you refuse FOUR TIMES to look at surveillance video when *lm* the victim? you dont cooperate with ME the VICTIM? what in all existence makes you think lm *ever* going to cooperate with you mouthy shitbrains? hmmm?
Funny you should say that.
Just yesterday had one of my guys short on cash at Tims wanting an extra coffee.
Was gonna hand him some change and the cop behind him says he will pay for it.
Shocked the crap out of me.
Some are not azzholes.
Do cops still get free coffee at Tim Horton’s?
Not really.
But my worker is a big Native, so that could have something to do with it.
The cops always have the option of saying, “Don’t let it happen again.” and drive away. This is a shit storm of their own making. Why would any cop ever arrest someone for a by-law or minor traffic offense? You give a ticket and go. These guys are just assholes telling the world how important they are and that we are not.
Totally. Its simply bullying and thuggery. Typical Liberal response to opposition.
Somebody in Ottawa will recognize these brownshirts, masked or not. Take names and make lists.
A couple of angry and cowardly low IQ thugs, thats why they’re cops because they’re stupid.
It takes a special type of cowardice and ignorance to physically assault a senior citizen.
Glad someone was there to film these two mentally unstable gangsters.
“…thats why they’re cops because they’re stupid.”
Yep, literarily that. The aptitude tests are designed to disqualify high IQ applicants. No joke, really, they even went to court to defend the practice:
https://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836
A friend of mine once honked at a cop and gave him the finger. He was given a ticket for ‘use of a horn not condusive to safety’. This was decades ago in Nova Scotia. Technically the cop in this video might have been correct that honking for no reason is a minor offence. However, man-handling a senior citizen for this who was literally half his size in front of a camera was beyond idiotic. The government and the police are showing signs of panic. They are scared.
I would of told the cop I honked because I’m afraid of the police, wanna watch the Stasi back off?
Um the cops aren’t allowed to stop and demand your name and address without just cause, the high court has already ruled random stop and searches of a person or their vehicle is a violation of the charter. What reason did the cop have for harassing an old man?
Honking, apparently.
Rose, enforcing the Highway Traffic Act is not harassment.
HTA 75 (4) … a person having control of a motor vehicle cannot sound the horn so as to make an unreasonable noise …
The police were correct to stop and issue a ticket to the “little old man” for sounding his horn “in protest or support” of the truckers.
SDA ain’t what it used to be. Lots of idiots on this blog.
Laws unevenly enforced are not laws – they are weapons to be used against your opponents. How many “horn honking” tickets have they issued around protests the government of the day supports?
Well, your name works well for you, dick man. Not much else, though. You a cop? Did you miss where they escalated instead of defusing? Or are you just an asshat on general principle?
So, Dan S. would you counsel the little old man to argue in court that the police failed to issue tickets to “other drivers” under HTA sec 75 (4) which nullifies the ticket he received? You must be a lawyer.
And the Tired of Idiots, idiot, did not understand the part in the video where the little old man failed to identify himself when asked to do so by the police officer … which he is required to do under law pursuant to his operation of a motor vehicle.
Dan and the Idiot … the real dumb and dumber.
I hate saying this but ya.
Unfortunately I think the video guy inflamed the situation.
If he wasn’t there maybe the cop would have just given the old man a warning and been on his way.
He was scared.
It works for the boomer Karens.
Wrong the courts have ruled stopping vehicles randomly without just cause, like a broken light, is a violation of our charter rights. The police can’t stop you and demand anything unless a law has been broken, might be broken or in the process of being broken.
Rose’s comment suggests that the police randomly pulled over the little old man and violated his “charter rights”. Except that the little old man was allegedly honking his horn, presumably to support the truckers, while he was driving in a residential area and that’s in contravention of the HTA. He was lawfully stopped by the police and asked for his drivers license. It appears he did not have one. The police did an outstanding job.
Don’t be a dick man.
Charter of Rights and Freedoms trumps the Highway Traffic Act.
“(b) freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication”
He was not just honking his horn. He was harmlessly expressing himself, politically.
So, scar, if you were defending the little old man on a Highway Traffic Act offence, you’d make a Charter argument? It’s your contention that HTA 75 (4) is unconstitutional? What about municipal noise bylaws? Are they also an infringement on our rights?
RN wants to use the squirrel argument. Great idea. How long did the little old man honk his horn? How far did the police follow him while he was honking his horn? How many squirrels were involved? Dozens? Hundreds perhaps? The HTA offence is not why the little old man was arrested. The little old man did not provide a drivers license when he was lawfully requested to do so and it looks to me like he was resisting … maybe trying to get back into his vehicle. The officer did an outstanding job.
BTW, the dude who was recording the video sounded a bit retarded. Hope he get home safely.
“The officer did an outstanding job.”
You mean he deescalated the situation and calmed things down? By calmly explaining to the old guy that he is given incorrect information by the onlooker and what information he is required to provide under the circumstances. No, he immediately embraced his inner thug. Right from the start the thug was out in plain sight, right when he responded with “Not your fucking concern”. He is unfit to carry a badge (sadly this seems to be a requirement these days) and you’re a piece of excrement for defending him. The world would be a better place if both of those thugs and you had cancer.
You hit the nail dead on the head with your observation of the badged goon’s response. Immediately escalate and go to physical force.
I have used the Charter of Rights in a traffic case and won. I won because once I gave notice of a Charter challenge they dropped the case. They had towed my car and I requested my towing fee back and the nice RCMP, after a year delay from the court order, wrote me a cheque.
From dickhead “And scar, are you suggesting the Crown withdrew a traffic ticket against you because they considered you to be an expert in constitutional law?”
In my case it wouldn’t take an expert. They simply didn’t want to invest the time arguing a chickenshit case that might set a bad precedent. I knew that they often drop such cases. It was a check stop that had police, fish cops, transportation cops, mechanics, environment department cops and likely others. My basic question was, “Why was I stopped and was it reasonable.” The prosecution didn’t want to answer the question. I am not sure such a check stop would yet pass legal muster. Not a lawyer. Never lost a case in tax court for two reasons. I would never take an unwinnable case to tax court and in all but one case the government lawyer settled before it went to court. In the other one it was nice to hear my name mentioned in every tax seminar I took for the next 20 years. Winnable cases are usually the product of someone else’s incompetence not any particular competence.
Tax court? There’s a tax court in Canada?
And you studied tax law in seminars for twenty years? And they keep mentioning your name because you established legal precedents in “tax court”? And you fight traffic tickets with constitutional arguments?
Well scar, if you don’t represent that little old man in traffic court, maybe you can do his taxes?
Did your pride in understanding HTA 75 (4) get the better of you?
Did you just blow your cover while searching for “unacceptable opinions” Officer Dickhead?
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No, I’m not looking for “unacceptable opinions” fisherboy … but I am surprised at how paranoid and delusional you are. You have so much anger. Be careful about trying to intimidate or threaten when you’re on the internet. Don’t write something that’ll get you in trouble fisherboy.
And scar, are you suggesting the Crown withdrew a traffic ticket against you because they considered you to be an expert in constitutional law? You’re just as delusional as fisherboy. Must have been frustrating waiting for the Mounties to pay up … but well done, you’re the King of Traffic Court. lmao … maybe you can be the little old man’s lawyer.
And colon, maybe you should send a written complaint to the Ottawa Police. Send them copies of your comments from this blog. Tell them you saw a video on SDA that triggered you and that the Ottawa Police pulled over a little old man who was honking at squirrels while he drove without a license.
The cops were keeping the community safe by getting that little old man off the roads. He didn’t have a license and he was clearly out of control. The cops in this video did an outstanding job.
So your response is to complain to cops about cops acting like thugs? Is that it? So the cops can investigate cops and decide that cops did nothing wrong?
Both cops are just low IQ thugs, acting out their high school bully fantasies, and you’re their fellator. That is all.
Old man saw squirrel in the road, cop must have bad eyes and missed it.
Hey dick man, are you a pitcher or a catcher?
“The More Laws, The Less Justice.” ~Marcus Tullius Cicero
Honking your horn in a demonstration for charter rights is not in any way unreasonable.
Honking your horn to keep up your assh*le landlord at 3AM is unreasonable.
(Dont ask me how I know that).
Your moniker is apt.
Ever get pulled over for speeding and let off with a warning? Lots of people have; it was when a cop could have enforced the letter of the law but used personal discretion instead.
That could have been done here; the cop chose to go all-in and things got out of control with the camera rolling. Added to that was the obvious attitude by the cops and the thing presents terribly for the Ottawa police. I’d wager he wasn’t congratulated but was reamed by his staff sgt when he returned to his division.
Sorry, Dickhead, or UnMe or whatever, this was a big flaming bag o’ shite that the cops jumped on with gusto and they’re paying the price. A bit of discretion by the cop – talking to the old guy and giving him a warning – would have addressed all sides of the issue – but wouldn’t satisfy the “Go Jackboots!” fascists like you, who would be tickled to see the old guy tased.
Now run along. There are probably local cops waiting impatiently for you to give their duty boots a good tongue washing.
mhb23re
Couldn’t watch the whole video. A lot of overreaction by all players in the video and in the comments, especially behind the camera. What do you expect will happen if you just keep upping the bet when nobodies bluffing. Everyone needs to take a pill. I’m out.
I agree, But since this situation may arise for anybody here in the future some knowledge of the related law is useful.
1. DO POLICE HAVE TO IDENTIFY THEMSELVES IN CANADA?
If a police officer is in plain clothes, they must tell you they are a police officer before trying to arrest, detain, or search you.
If a police officer is uniformed, they do not have to tell you they are an officer, but if you ask, they must provide their name and badge number.
Police usually have to identify themselves before entering your home or private property.
2. CAN YOU REFUSE TO SHOW ID TO THE POLICE IN CANADA?
You cannot refuse to present your ID if you are being stopped while driving or operating some kind of vehicle.
You can refuse to show your ID to police if you are a passenger in a vehicle or if they stop you on the street, unless they are investigating a crime that has occurred or they are detaining you.
Police cannot ask for your ID because of your race, because you are in a high crime area, because you refused to answer a question, or because you walked away.
Police must tell you why they want to see your ID, that you can refuse to show them your ID, and that you can refuse to give them your name and date of birth.
If you are unsure what to do, you can ask the officer “Am I being detained?”, or “Am I free to go?” – If they say that you are not being detained, you are free to walk away without identifying yourself.
3. I DON’T ANSWER QUESTIONS – A CANADIAN PERSPECTIVE
“I don’t answer questions” is a powerful statement, as you have a right to remain silent. If an officer attempts to stop you on the street, you can simply ask them if you are being arrested or detained. If they say no, you can walk off in silence.
If you are detained or arrested by police, they have to immediately inform you as to why you are being detained, then immediately provide you with your rights, which include the right to silence and the right to speak to a lawyer of your choice. Lawyers will advise you NOT to speak to police.
Courts are forbidden from associating silence with guilt or suspicion. Not providing a statement to police is usually in your best interest as anything you say can be used against you as evidence of the offence. If detained, you should give your name and date of birth, but it is typically not recommended to say anything else.
Police can continue to ask you questions and will often use a variety of techniques to try and get you to speak to them, even after you have told them multiple times you do not wish to answer any questions. You can simply reply that you are asserting your right to silence, but understand that does not prohibit them from asking questions, so be prepared to offer that reply over and over.
If you are pulled over in your car under the Highway Traffic Act, police do have the ability to ask you questions you are compelled to answer. These questions MUST be restricted to the driver and must be directly related to the sobriety of the drive, the licensing and insurance of the driver and ownership of the vehicle, and the fitness of the vehicle. Any other questions can only result from a proper arrest or detention, and must follow the same protocol listed above.
Copied from a very useful website written in plain English by https://collettreadllp.com/know-your-rights/
Interesting read. I’d like to hear a lawyer’s perspective, but most of what you’ve said makes good sense. There are many YT vids explaining why it’s solid advice not to give police any more info than ID required by law, and to ask “Am i being detained” if questioned.
Talking in a reasonable tone might help prevent a situation from going sideways, too; I don’t imagine many cops use discretion and let people off with warnings who present themselves as utter jerks. A power tripping cop will probably happily go authoritarian on someone mouthing off and a regular guy doing his job may decide the polite motorist he stopped gets off with a warning.
Regardless, it pays to know your rights and options in case you are stopped.
mhb23re
YouTube says this has only 6k views. How do we make sure viewership of this increases exponentially? Any ideas?
Fox News?
Yep. Send to Tucker ,Hannity, Newsroom, etc. should have heard the morning girl go on about it (protest) this morning about 5 am. She was great.
Jackbooted thugs acting out their high school bully fantasies. Hey enema69, The Awful Truth and other jackboot lickers, are you paying attention yet?
Occurred at Friel and Besserer in Sandy Hill (downtown core of Ottawa).
https://goo.gl/maps/QJHzwJUMkPnvZ2VJ6
If the cops didnt detain him, he could have honked again.
These two louts will be protected by their union but their behaviour is now a matter of public record. They should be detained next time they emerge in public. Strapped to a lamppost and their facemasks removed so they can be photographed and publicly shamed. Rather like the medieval practice of putting such people in the stocks to be shamed. They have already shamed their uniform. It is now time for the individuals to face the music.
Somebody used the videos from the Penal Colony of Australia as a teaching tool,
Possibly the most violent incident in the entire protest…
And, using Just-ins logic, all cops are bullies who gang up on old, defenseless people.
The geheime stats polizie are out doing herr sheizekopf bidding. disgusting in canada. everyone should juststart honking their horns.
**gestapo to you plebians, figure out sheizekopf yourselves
Not quite the Gestapo, those people will haul you from your home in dead of night for blogging against castreau or donating to the truckers.
These two are more the Sturmabteilung Brownshirt type of d-bag.
mhb23re
Wow that was crazy. Kudos to the person videoing it all and sticking up for the gentleman. Those 2 officers are going to be hating it tomorrow.
The other thing that sucks about this is he’s going to have to find a new hiding spot in his van.
Sounds to me that this is now totally disregarded in modern policing. It’s obvious these two goons have never been taught it.
Sir Robert Peel’s Nine Principles of Policing
1.To prevent crime and disorder, as an alternative to their repression by military force and severity of legal punishment.
2.To recognise always that the power of the police to fulfil their functions and duties is dependent on public approval of their existence, actions and behaviour, and on their ability to secure and maintain public respect.
3.To recognise always that to secure and maintain the respect and approval of the public means also the securing of the willing co-operation of the public in the task of securing observance of laws.
4.To recognise always that the extent to which the co-operation of the public can be secured diminishes proportionately the necessity of the use of physical force and compulsion for achieving police objectives.
5.To seek and preserve public favour, not by pandering to public opinion, but by constantly demonstrating absolutely impartial service to law, in complete independence of policy, and without regard to the justice or injustice of the substance of individual laws, by ready offering of individual service and friendship to all members of the public without regard to their wealth or social standing, by ready exercise of courtesy and friendly good humour, and by ready offering of individual sacrifice in protecting and preserving life.
6.To use physical force only when the exercise of persuasion, advice and warning is found to be insufficient to obtain public co-operation to an extent necessary to secure observance of law or to restore order, and to use only the minimum degree of physical force which is necessary on any particular occasion for achieving a police objective.
7.To maintain at all times a relationship with the public that gives reality to the historic tradition that the police are the public and that the public are the police, the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full-time attention to duties which are incumbent on every citizen in the interests of community welfare and existence.
8.To recognise always the need for strict adherence to police-executive functions, and to refrain from even seeming to usurp the powers of the judiciary, of avenging individuals or the State, and of authoritatively judging guilt and punishing the guilty.
9.To recognise always that the test of police efficiency is the absence of crime and disorder, and not the visible evidence of police action in dealing with them.
Great read, that. Thanks for posting.
A clear video of the license plate and or side number of the police vehicle along with the time stamp on your video pretty much defines which police officers are in the vehicle at that time.
The real Larry Dickman.
Playing the man is a losing proposition and makes you look very defensive and arrogant.
What I saw was two angry and, almost certainly very frustrated cops, after all they have terrible leadership and are in an unenviable and difficult position regards current public opinion but that does not excuse their abusive and definitely unprofessional attitudes and behavior. They have done their profession and the Ottawa police force no favor at all. They just applied another push on the pendulum of public opinion that is already rapidly swinging against them.
The Ottawa police took a driver without a license off the road. If you consider their conduct to be unprofessional then do something about it. You hate the cops, I understand that. So, be a man and file a complaint instead of posting anonymous ad hominum attacks against someone you do not know on this pathetic blog. Be a man old timer.
“So, be a man and file a complaint … ”
Which will achieve absolutely nothing because cops a lynch a man to death Casino style, get investigated but other cops and cops will decide that cops did nothing wrong. Besides since when does filling a complaint counts as “being a man”?
And if the blog is “pathetic” in your opinion, I assure you we have been doing great without you. FOAD.
Sundance has it at the Treehouse.
He compares against Australia.
So a lawyer named Paul Champ makes a video and gets an injunction against honking and the police brutalize an old man. A Human Rights lawyer.
Francisco, there is more to this. This version is a bit longer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuTkxlPrlxo
I wish everyone could focus on the fact he WAS an old man. He was being roughed up by a guy twice his size. Larry-very aptly named, one day you will be old. Lets hope the cops do not do this to you when your are this man’s age (well kinda). Your lack of compassion is stark and frankly, I find it upsetting. Similarly I find the policemen’s equally bad. They showed no skills at managing a situation or the reasonable use of force. Not to mention enforcing a law in a obviously vexatious manner. I hope the old guy gets a lawyer and gets their asses canned. I am guessing he will.
Put away your ‘Law for Dummies’ books and look into your soul.
I am guessing there is one still. There is never anything good in big policemen rough housing old men. Never
My dad was a cop for 30 years.
Larry the cop here was abusing his power and loving every minute of it.
If he’s still a cop a year from now, its because whatever force employs him is rotten to the top.
Sad to see.
In hindsight.
Get with the narrative,as this act of stupid violence goes viral,your intellectual superiors over at CTV,CBC and Global will all explain that the two uniformed actors are not Policemen at all..
No no these are paid activists working for the Evil Freedom Convoy,staging a scene to make the valiant and law abiding Ottawa Police look like Government Thugs..
Remember it is not lying when CBC does it.
Now us old fashioned tax paying types call it lying and deceit by omission,but this is what our Presstitutes do..so as it is the new normal of State Newz,
CBCing is the correct phrase..
For last night,only the CBC clown could see “Lines of Tow trucks” of which zero pictures emerged and no other on site witnesses could see them..
CBCing your audience.