Legault mad. “You’re supposed to only do Albertans up the ass. Not us Québécois!” he yelled.
Out of respect for the Native people, I think the dam should be destroyed and the land reclaimed to its natural state.
but first get all the FN’s to move their teepees directly under the dam
Alberta smiles.
Karma, no stinking pipeline through our province = no stinking electrical wires through our state.
Worse yet for him is that you can’t transport electricity by rail car.
I am picturing long trains of Telsa batteries. Just a few dollars more in subsidies and it is viable!
edit: must be electric trains
Considering the atmospheric destroying methane produced from those drowned acres that can be seen from space, its no wonder Mainers rejected that dirty electricity.
My face hurts, I must be smiling.
Oh Lord, this is going to cost us. It’s like having a 32 year old dependent son living with you and he finally gets a job, only to be shitcanned the first day.
Can I have another five hundred dollars, Dad?
Sure, son, sure.
They should threaten to separate from Canada if Maine doesn’t comply. It works for everything else.
Couldn’t happen to a nicer Province…
I can’t wait for the transfer payments from Quebec once they are the green battery of North America.
A corridor of several hundred miles was going to be clear cut through western Maine, much of which is beautiful barely touched wilderness, to bring hydro power to Massachusetts so the liberals there could feel better about about their shithole state because it was being heated with “clean energy”.
The vote was a big win for now, but I’m sure the will of the people will only last as long as the next liberal judge wants.
EXACTLY!
Moved from Massachusetts where I grew up. I remember as a kid going to GM assembly plant in Framingham, bakeries, DEC, Digital, Wang computers, shipyards. When Dems were normal, patriotic.
Now the trust fund enviro wackos have shut down nuclear, stopped Seabrook nuclear( NH ), stopped more natural gas, tried to stop LNG ships. Have planted stupid virture boutique solar fields to power their IPhone 13’s.
Well guess what? Own it. You’re so smart, figure it out on your own, in your own state.
Instead they wanted, and supported giving chump change to us toothless, knuckle dragging, trailer living peasents. They wont allow along side pipe for natty gas in THEIR state, but we got gouge hundreds of miles, forever, for a one time chump check.
Stuff it.
Goes around, comes around. Mass, you’ll get nothing, and like it.
Too bad Frenchie. Try your luck with Vermont and New Hampshire and tell the boys to get workin’ on about 500 miles of extension cord.
Hey, I’m sure Bernie will be only too happy.
Actually now that I think about it, I wouldn’t want to bet on his reaction. We can only pray they keep getting turned down, and yeah: by all means have a hissy and separate, yesterday if possible. But if you do, you can take all of those ideas you have about keeping our currency and our Armed Forces and our transfer payments, and shove them right straight up your holes.
Payback for wearing banana hammocks at Old Orchard Beach every year.
Once you have seen them, which I did 50 years ago, you can’t forget them. I should sue Quebec for inflicting psychological damage.
Wonder what the last two summers have been like at Old Orchard Beach (on the Maine coast for those that don’t already know) without the Quebecois? Was it reclamation time?
Banana hammocks were so very cute!
I loved going to Old Orchard Beach back in the 80s but quit once the exchange $ got unreasonable next to the Canadian buck.
Shediac NB was a good replacement. Saw the Beach Boys perform in concert there- outside, where else, on the Beach!
Well, doesn’t a lot of that power come from Labrador? And who can forget how Quebec screwed Newfoundland/Labrador? But then, who HASN’T Quebec screwed?
what is our little prince in Ottawa going to do stamp his feet
He’ll likely hold his breath and turn blue!
Is the referendum binding?
Is the Virginia election legit ?
The vote supported the ballot initiative to:
1. prohibit the construction of electric transmission lines defined as high-impact in the Upper Kennebec Region, including the NECEC, and
2. require a two-thirds vote of each state legislative chamber to approve high-impact electric transmission line projects.
Quebecers are certainly not used to hearing the word “non” very often, so I suspect “fight” and “Plan B” actually means ball their fists and stamp their little feet and then demand Trudeau ‘do something’.
then demand Trudeau ‘do something’
He will. Get ready, Alberta, to fork over more money to the perpetually “impoverished” province of Quebec.
SShhhhhhhh! Noooooooo!
BA, Alberta like the rest of Canada has no more money.
” Ball their fists and stamp their little feet “.
Reminds me of Brandon from the LGB Community Song.
” I am cornholio “.
Can someone explain to me how flooding 11,000 sq KM of carbon absorbing land can be called Green Energy? How much C02 would that landscape absorb if left undisturbed? No one has ever explained it to me. Perhaps an SDA expert can elaborate on the science?
it’s a science that isn’t well developed yet, but you can get an idea from:
Primarily the report says that they have no idea, but they are VERY ALARMED. Color me shocked. The same people that want to kill all the cows, and have you eat your lawn.
40,000,000 km2 of forest on Earth.
11,000 km2 area of Hydro Q reservoirs. (assumption : this area was prev covered by trees.)
Global carbon capture would be reduced by a whopping 0.025 %.
As Sowell states, for progressives who have no sense of trade offs…. that one one hundredth of a % is enough to shut down all progress. (x2.5)
LOL, awesome. This is my favorite story of the day.
Quebec is about find out about its constitutional limits.
Not the written ones, the presumed ones they think they have.
“But some people in Maine have protested against the fact that the project requires cutting down 1,000 trees, even though most of those trees have already been cleared.”
Hahaha, “one thousand trees” (said in best Dr Evil voice). Anybody who’s ever been to Maine knows that there must be in excess of one trillion trees in that state, but they’re losing their shit over 0.00000000001% of them.
And don’t they already have a massive forestry / pulp and paper industry there? Cutting down 1,000 trees sounds like a slow afternoon for them. And it doesn’t really matter because “most of those trees have already been cleared” LOL.
Someone upthread claimed that “a corridor of several hundred miles was going to be clear cut through western Maine” for this project. Actually it’s a whole 85 kilometres before it connects to a pre-existing hydro corridor. And apparently, with all due respect to the dearly missed thousand dead trees, it’s already been clear cut.
It sounds like Hydro Quebec and their US partners might be planning a massive lawsuit over this, presumably targeting the state of Maine. This referendum result can be overturned by a two-thirds vote by both houses of the Maine legislature, so they might end up doing that to avoid a multi-billion dollar payout.
I totally understand the delicious schadenfreude that Albertans experienced when hearing about this, but I don’t share it. One, any victory for these extremist environmentalists is a loss for the rest of us, whether in Alberta, Quebec, Maine, or anywhere else.
Two, the quicker that Quebec can sell billions worth of electricity to the US, the quicker they will catch up to the rest of Canada economically and not be eligible for any more equalization payments. And then, God willing, they will finally separate and we can all go forward into the post-Canadian future.
Your number two point is a joke given how their electricity is given special consideration in regard to equalization. Nothing will stop Quebec sucking up billions from Alberta.
“Nothing will stop Quebec sucking up billions from Alberta.”
Agreed.
Quebec is like a man who turned the feds into his bitch.
Alberta is a like eunuch, jealous of the man that keeps boning the object of his affection, and casts about in hurt confusion when the feds take his pretty things to give to the man.
This will end if Alberta ever grows some balls.
I shan’t be holding my breath.
After 30 years of being a true Alberta believer…I have to agree with you that Alberta is all hat no cattle. It talks a good game, but the school bullies still take its lunch money regularly and all it does is whine–like a biatch.
If you want Quebec to leave, then you should want them to be as economically successful as possible. If Hydro Quebec gets these big electricity contracts with NY and Mass., then I guarantee you that they won’t be collecting $13.5 billion in equalization per annum ten years from now. Would you rather them impoverished and become even more dependent on the rest of us?
I guarantee you that they won’t be collecting $13.5 billion in equalization per annum ten years from now
Hahahahahahahahahaha! Dream on….. Quebec could be running large surpluses and it’ll still whine that it’s impoverished and oppressed. It’s the Quebec way, perpetual punishment for the Plains of Abraham.
From Colby Cosh’s article linked by OttawaMJ below:
“It’s natural for Albertan compassion to be mixed with heavy helpings of irony here. The temptation to fill an entire paragraph with “HAHAHAHAHAHA …” has been great. But, of course, the schadenfreude boomerangs on us after a moment’s thought, given that anything which is good for Quebec’s economy is bound to lift its foot off Alberta’s throat just a little.”
Yes, I’d also like to lift Quebec’s foot off Alberta’s throat just a little. If you and Art think that tens of billions in hydro contracts won’t make any difference to Quebec’s equalization payments then I don’t know what to tell you except that your blind hatred of Quebec is overwhelming your basic common sense
“Would you rather them impoverished and become even more dependent on the rest of us?”
I really can’t see how you got that from anything I said.
This thread reads like Orwell’s Two Minutes Hate, and like the citizens of Airstrip One, many seem willing to place the blame for all their problems on people that their local owners have been programming them to hate for decades, and it works!
People are stupid.
Here is more good news. Plan “B” for Quebec may have been stillborn. New Hampshire has already rejected the same proposal that Maine voters have just voted against.
“Quebec’s premier François Legault, one of the seeming thousands of Canadian politicians attending the climate summit in Glasgow, went before the cameras this morning to reassure Quebecers that he is still confident the project will get done somehow and that “we have a Plan B.” NECEC, however, is already the Plan B devised to replace a different transmission route shut down by New Hampshire regulators.”
[NECEC being the acronym for the Maine electrical transmission corridor.]
Colby Cosh is an ignoramus. Revenues from hydro power are specifically EXCLUDED from equalization calculations, so Québec could be rolling in money from hydro sales and still claim equalization payments. Also, the deleterious effects of all those dams have probably not been “sterilized”; studies have shown that hydro projects are not nearly so “green” as it is claimed and the ill effects continue long after the dams have been built and commissioned.
I only wish Quebec had the balls to break into the Ontario market.
Quebec sait faire” (Quebec knows how), the old slogan of the 1960s and 1970s, still holds true. You watch, they’ll play to win. I don’t trust them at all.
,
I don’t see the problem. Quebec’s hydro industry is miniscule. That’s why they needed one trillion dollars in transfer payments from Alberta over the last 50 years. The poor dears still haven’t figured out how to balance a budget.
“Maine voters reject $10 billion Hydro-Quebec BLACKOUTS; Quebec vows to fight”
There fixed it…………..
Legault mad. “You’re supposed to only do Albertans up the ass. Not us Québécois!” he yelled.
Out of respect for the Native people, I think the dam should be destroyed and the land reclaimed to its natural state.
but first get all the FN’s to move their teepees directly under the dam
Alberta smiles.
Karma, no stinking pipeline through our province = no stinking electrical wires through our state.
Worse yet for him is that you can’t transport electricity by rail car.
I am picturing long trains of Telsa batteries. Just a few dollars more in subsidies and it is viable!
edit: must be electric trains
Considering the atmospheric destroying methane produced from those drowned acres that can be seen from space, its no wonder Mainers rejected that dirty electricity.
My face hurts, I must be smiling.
Oh Lord, this is going to cost us. It’s like having a 32 year old dependent son living with you and he finally gets a job, only to be shitcanned the first day.
Can I have another five hundred dollars, Dad?
Sure, son, sure.
They should threaten to separate from Canada if Maine doesn’t comply. It works for everything else.
Couldn’t happen to a nicer Province…
I can’t wait for the transfer payments from Quebec once they are the green battery of North America.
A corridor of several hundred miles was going to be clear cut through western Maine, much of which is beautiful barely touched wilderness, to bring hydro power to Massachusetts so the liberals there could feel better about about their shithole state because it was being heated with “clean energy”.
The vote was a big win for now, but I’m sure the will of the people will only last as long as the next liberal judge wants.
EXACTLY!
Moved from Massachusetts where I grew up. I remember as a kid going to GM assembly plant in Framingham, bakeries, DEC, Digital, Wang computers, shipyards. When Dems were normal, patriotic.
Now the trust fund enviro wackos have shut down nuclear, stopped Seabrook nuclear( NH ), stopped more natural gas, tried to stop LNG ships. Have planted stupid virture boutique solar fields to power their IPhone 13’s.
Well guess what? Own it. You’re so smart, figure it out on your own, in your own state.
Instead they wanted, and supported giving chump change to us toothless, knuckle dragging, trailer living peasents. They wont allow along side pipe for natty gas in THEIR state, but we got gouge hundreds of miles, forever, for a one time chump check.
Stuff it.
Goes around, comes around. Mass, you’ll get nothing, and like it.
Too bad Frenchie. Try your luck with Vermont and New Hampshire and tell the boys to get workin’ on about 500 miles of extension cord.
Hey, I’m sure Bernie will be only too happy.
Actually now that I think about it, I wouldn’t want to bet on his reaction. We can only pray they keep getting turned down, and yeah: by all means have a hissy and separate, yesterday if possible. But if you do, you can take all of those ideas you have about keeping our currency and our Armed Forces and our transfer payments, and shove them right straight up your holes.
Payback for wearing banana hammocks at Old Orchard Beach every year.
Once you have seen them, which I did 50 years ago, you can’t forget them. I should sue Quebec for inflicting psychological damage.
Wonder what the last two summers have been like at Old Orchard Beach (on the Maine coast for those that don’t already know) without the Quebecois? Was it reclamation time?
Banana hammocks were so very cute!
I loved going to Old Orchard Beach back in the 80s but quit once the exchange $ got unreasonable next to the Canadian buck.
Shediac NB was a good replacement. Saw the Beach Boys perform in concert there- outside, where else, on the Beach!
Well, doesn’t a lot of that power come from Labrador? And who can forget how Quebec screwed Newfoundland/Labrador? But then, who HASN’T Quebec screwed?
what is our little prince in Ottawa going to do stamp his feet
He’ll likely hold his breath and turn blue!
Is the referendum binding?
Is the Virginia election legit ?
The vote supported the ballot initiative to:
1. prohibit the construction of electric transmission lines defined as high-impact in the Upper Kennebec Region, including the NECEC, and
2. require a two-thirds vote of each state legislative chamber to approve high-impact electric transmission line projects.
Quebecers are certainly not used to hearing the word “non” very often, so I suspect “fight” and “Plan B” actually means ball their fists and stamp their little feet and then demand Trudeau ‘do something’.
then demand Trudeau ‘do something’
He will. Get ready, Alberta, to fork over more money to the perpetually “impoverished” province of Quebec.
SShhhhhhhh! Noooooooo!
BA, Alberta like the rest of Canada has no more money.
” Ball their fists and stamp their little feet “.
Reminds me of Brandon from the LGB Community Song.
” I am cornholio “.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ifs8crL5p4E
Can someone explain to me how flooding 11,000 sq KM of carbon absorbing land can be called Green Energy? How much C02 would that landscape absorb if left undisturbed? No one has ever explained it to me. Perhaps an SDA expert can elaborate on the science?
it’s a science that isn’t well developed yet, but you can get an idea from:
https://www.climatecentral.org/news/hydropower-as-major-methane-emitter-18246
Primarily the report says that they have no idea, but they are VERY ALARMED. Color me shocked. The same people that want to kill all the cows, and have you eat your lawn.
40,000,000 km2 of forest on Earth.
11,000 km2 area of Hydro Q reservoirs. (assumption : this area was prev covered by trees.)
Global carbon capture would be reduced by a whopping 0.025 %.
As Sowell states, for progressives who have no sense of trade offs…. that one one hundredth of a % is enough to shut down all progress. (x2.5)
LOL, awesome. This is my favorite story of the day.
Quebec is about find out about its constitutional limits.
Not the written ones, the presumed ones they think they have.
Maine Quebeced Quebec.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/hydro-quebec-legal-options-referendum-maine-1.6235220
“But some people in Maine have protested against the fact that the project requires cutting down 1,000 trees, even though most of those trees have already been cleared.”
Hahaha, “one thousand trees” (said in best Dr Evil voice). Anybody who’s ever been to Maine knows that there must be in excess of one trillion trees in that state, but they’re losing their shit over 0.00000000001% of them.
And don’t they already have a massive forestry / pulp and paper industry there? Cutting down 1,000 trees sounds like a slow afternoon for them. And it doesn’t really matter because “most of those trees have already been cleared” LOL.
Someone upthread claimed that “a corridor of several hundred miles was going to be clear cut through western Maine” for this project. Actually it’s a whole 85 kilometres before it connects to a pre-existing hydro corridor. And apparently, with all due respect to the dearly missed thousand dead trees, it’s already been clear cut.
It sounds like Hydro Quebec and their US partners might be planning a massive lawsuit over this, presumably targeting the state of Maine. This referendum result can be overturned by a two-thirds vote by both houses of the Maine legislature, so they might end up doing that to avoid a multi-billion dollar payout.
I totally understand the delicious schadenfreude that Albertans experienced when hearing about this, but I don’t share it. One, any victory for these extremist environmentalists is a loss for the rest of us, whether in Alberta, Quebec, Maine, or anywhere else.
Two, the quicker that Quebec can sell billions worth of electricity to the US, the quicker they will catch up to the rest of Canada economically and not be eligible for any more equalization payments. And then, God willing, they will finally separate and we can all go forward into the post-Canadian future.
Your number two point is a joke given how their electricity is given special consideration in regard to equalization. Nothing will stop Quebec sucking up billions from Alberta.
“Nothing will stop Quebec sucking up billions from Alberta.”
Agreed.
Quebec is like a man who turned the feds into his bitch.
Alberta is a like eunuch, jealous of the man that keeps boning the object of his affection, and casts about in hurt confusion when the feds take his pretty things to give to the man.
This will end if Alberta ever grows some balls.
I shan’t be holding my breath.
After 30 years of being a true Alberta believer…I have to agree with you that Alberta is all hat no cattle. It talks a good game, but the school bullies still take its lunch money regularly and all it does is whine–like a biatch.
If you want Quebec to leave, then you should want them to be as economically successful as possible. If Hydro Quebec gets these big electricity contracts with NY and Mass., then I guarantee you that they won’t be collecting $13.5 billion in equalization per annum ten years from now. Would you rather them impoverished and become even more dependent on the rest of us?
I guarantee you that they won’t be collecting $13.5 billion in equalization per annum ten years from now
Hahahahahahahahahaha! Dream on….. Quebec could be running large surpluses and it’ll still whine that it’s impoverished and oppressed. It’s the Quebec way, perpetual punishment for the Plains of Abraham.
From Colby Cosh’s article linked by OttawaMJ below:
“It’s natural for Albertan compassion to be mixed with heavy helpings of irony here. The temptation to fill an entire paragraph with “HAHAHAHAHAHA …” has been great. But, of course, the schadenfreude boomerangs on us after a moment’s thought, given that anything which is good for Quebec’s economy is bound to lift its foot off Alberta’s throat just a little.”
Yes, I’d also like to lift Quebec’s foot off Alberta’s throat just a little. If you and Art think that tens of billions in hydro contracts won’t make any difference to Quebec’s equalization payments then I don’t know what to tell you except that your blind hatred of Quebec is overwhelming your basic common sense
“Would you rather them impoverished and become even more dependent on the rest of us?”
I really can’t see how you got that from anything I said.
This thread reads like Orwell’s Two Minutes Hate, and like the citizens of Airstrip One, many seem willing to place the blame for all their problems on people that their local owners have been programming them to hate for decades, and it works!
People are stupid.
Here is more good news. Plan “B” for Quebec may have been stillborn. New Hampshire has already rejected the same proposal that Maine voters have just voted against.
“Quebec’s premier François Legault, one of the seeming thousands of Canadian politicians attending the climate summit in Glasgow, went before the cameras this morning to reassure Quebecers that he is still confident the project will get done somehow and that “we have a Plan B.” NECEC, however, is already the Plan B devised to replace a different transmission route shut down by New Hampshire regulators.”
[NECEC being the acronym for the Maine electrical transmission corridor.]
https://nationalpost.com/opinion/colby-cosh-americans-dont-want-quebec-hydropower-excuse-me-while-i-wipe-away-tears-of-laughter
Colby Cosh is an ignoramus. Revenues from hydro power are specifically EXCLUDED from equalization calculations, so Québec could be rolling in money from hydro sales and still claim equalization payments. Also, the deleterious effects of all those dams have probably not been “sterilized”; studies have shown that hydro projects are not nearly so “green” as it is claimed and the ill effects continue long after the dams have been built and commissioned.
I only wish Quebec had the balls to break into the Ontario market.
Quebec sait faire” (Quebec knows how), the old slogan of the 1960s and 1970s, still holds true. You watch, they’ll play to win. I don’t trust them at all.
,
I don’t see the problem. Quebec’s hydro industry is miniscule. That’s why they needed one trillion dollars in transfer payments from Alberta over the last 50 years. The poor dears still haven’t figured out how to balance a budget.