42 Replies to “The Left’s New America”

  1. “They’re too stupid to tell us what to do.”

    Have any Liberal politicians thought how this and worse won’t happen everywhere there are vaxports?
    One of three things will happen down the road.
    They’ll have to back down, jail us or physically hold us down and inject us.

    1. They’ll never back down. It’ll mean that they were wrong to begin with. This game’s for all the cookies now.

        1. Actually, In California it is not required by LAW to inform your sexual partner if you have AIDS, so as far as I am concerned the Goobermint has no right to ask for my vaccine card.
          Scumbag.

    2. There is a running “joke” in our house that one day a cruiser is going to pull up and I’m going to be slammed across the hood of the police car and get cuffed. The kids think mom getting dragged off to jail will make a great TikTok.
      Jokes on them…I won’t have to cook anymore. What’s prison food like?

  2. So can “unvaccinated” people ride in the back of the bus?

    I sure hope democrats don’t start burning crosses in the yards of “unvaccinated” people.

    I wonder if Trudeau will dress up in “unvaccinated” face someday?

    Those libs and their dog whistles. They’re gonna put the “unvaccinated” back in chains.

    I am going to relish rubbing this in lib noses. What a bunch of racist pigs they are.

  3. It took over 40 years for the Canadian government to apologize to Japanese citizens for their internment during WWII.

    I expect it could easily take that long before the latest generation of segregationists realize how wrong they were, so don’t get your hopes up for this to end quickly. The truth will eventually come out, but only after millions have paid the ultimate price, and that the truth becomes so obvious that it can no longer be kept buried.

  4. Religious exemption?
    It’s hard to find anyone as “religious” as a vaxxer. They hold the vax as a religious imperative.

  5. No, vaccine “passports” are not Jim Crow. They’re not “just like” Japanese internment camps. They’re not the penultimate step to the Holocaust.

    They’re still a bad idea. Nowhere near on par with the worst forms of 19th and 20th century Western state oppression — just bad policy, not least because they press individual workers and business owners into enforcement, as seen here.

    1. It is the toehold to create the dangerous “us and them” mentality that destabilizes a population. When hasn’t the left embraced the division strategy (black/white, religious/atheist, rich/poor, hetero/homo etc.) up until now it was pockets of the population. Now they have the whole population taking a side. This behavior has historically been the precursor to something else.

      1. Cf. Jordan Peterson’s podcast animation of just a few days ago. Read history, people, and if you can’t be bothered doing that at least watch the colorfully illustrated 5-minute summaries! I’m talking to you, Ted.

      2. Kelly, I do agree with your sentiment that nurturing an “us and them” mentality can destabilize a population and lead to bad outcomes.

        Which makes it all the more puzzling that your immediate next sentence — “When hasn’t the left embraced the division strategy (black/white, religious/atheist, rich/poor, hetero/homo etc.)..” — does exactly that same thing.

        Surely you can recognize that it’s not just “the left” that engages in divisive rhetoric. It’s a problem on all sides, a vicious cycle. Elements of the pro-vax camp do it; so do elements of the anti-vax camp. The Liberals and NDP do it, sure, but so do the Conservatives and the PPC. By definition, the Bloc and Maverick do it. Obama and Biden engaged in it, but so do Republican pols (see: DeSantis, Abbott/Patrick, Cruz, Gaetz, Greene, etc.). Trump made it an art form. You’ll say the CBC, Globe and Mail, TorStar, CNN, MSNBC, etc. do it — what about Rebel, and Fox, and Hannity, and Levin? Jordan Peterson, whom One Smart Fellow mentions just above, casually refers to “the left” in monolithic terms all the time in his podcasts and talks. SDA stokes an “us vs. them” mentality literally every day. This very blog post that we’re currently both commenting on does it (“The Left’s New America”).

        1. Maybe you missed it ted.

          The left wants to take your rights away from you. The right wants you to keep them.

          Yeah, it’s really that simple.

          1. “Yeah, it’s really that simple.”

            As simple — or more accurately, as simplistic — as “us versus them”.

        2. All sides may do it but only one side has the power to coerce, right now anyway. There is not one right leaning institution in Canada that I’m aware of. Even the Conservative party is essentially left of center. The us and them here isn’t between citizens it’s the governing class and the “others”. As someone said, it’s a big club and we’re not in it. I’m not anyway, maybe you are, I don’t know.

          And you’re right, it isn’t the Holocaust, or Jim Crow, or internment camps, or residential schools. Yet. Those things didn’t spring up out of nowhere overnight. A government that chooses to ignore human rights, the very human rights they themselves codified, isn’t going to stop at vaccine passports.

          Now that they have the power to control our movements and our gatherings and our speech they will look for other causes to apply it to. Probably starting with oil and gas consumption.

          Two years ago my kids future was pretty bright, they could plan on going pretty much anywhere in the world to do pretty much anything they wanted. Now their future is one of being controlled and having to earn permission to participate in society. Permission given by people who are too stupid and incompetent to earn a proper living.

          It might not be a big deal to you but it’s devastating to me.

          1. “Two years ago my kids future was pretty bright, they could plan on going pretty much anywhere in the world to do pretty much anything they wanted. Now their future is one of being controlled and having to earn permission to participate in society. Permission given by people who are too stupid and incompetent to earn a proper living.”

            Indeed. And the permission will always be conditional, able to be revoked by the state at any time.

            I too have two young children, and it crushes my soul to think of the world that awaits them.

          2. WEll put Jimmy.

            Ive two lovely young women – both hard working and I see what is happening to them over the past 2 yrs…and I do not like what I see.

            “..”Permission” given by people who are too stupid and incompetent to earn a proper living…”

            No shit……The Entire Body Politic…..everywhere in every iteration.

        3. Ted, you’re throwing up red herrings again. If you really think the important issue here is “us vs them“ rather than having our rights stripped by degenerate Commies, I can’t think why you bother coming here any
          more since no one will EVER agree with you. I’ll say it again, you’re obviously not a sociopath like Allan S or a drooling imbecile like UnMe, so why? Go for a walk, buy yourself a new shirt, watch a good movie on Netflix if there are any, anything but this pointless transparent diversionary nonsense!

          WTF, did you not read my previous reply to you? You certainly didn’t address it.

          1. “WTF, did you not read my previous reply to you?”

            You mean the one where you refer back the Sept 14th thread on Peterson’s “Victimhood leads to genocide” video? On that earlier thread, you told me to “please just shut up, you’re embarrassing yourself.” So, as far as engaging with you goes, I did.

            “I can’t think why you bother coming here any more since no one will EVER agree with you.”

            Because part of the whole premise behind rejecting “us versus them” thinking is to actually engage with those you disagree with, to try to understand their perspectives, to not tell them to just shut up, and to try to find common ground and common values.

            “…by degenerate Commies”

            They’re not degenerate Commies. They’re people you disagree with on matters of public policy. If our current federal and provincial/territorial/state governments were in fact authoritarian Communist parties, you wouldn’t be here comfortably berating them from the safety of your computer. They would have hacked SDA, traced your identity, arrested you, and thrown you in a remote prison without trial.

        4. Hep Teddy

          “.Surely you can recognize that it’s not just “the left” that engages in divisive rhetoric..”

          Give us some concrete Evidece or STFU.
          The Left has been involved in SOCIAL ENGINEERING (DIVISION), since Public Serpents Unioinized.

          Fuck off with your apologetic cognitive dissonance.

          1. “Give us some concrete Evidece or STFU.”

            Evidence of unhelpful, inaccurate, divisive rhetoric from someone outside “the left”? OK. Exhibit A — this statement, by you, immediately after demanding evidence: “The Left has been involved in SOCIAL ENGINEERING (DIVISION), since Public Serpents Unioinized.”

        5. You may have a point that both sides are engaging in divisive rhetoric, but to that point, I have a question:
          Which side using the divisive rhetoric to their advantage, and which side is being victimized by that rhetoric?

          As far as I know, I do not hear calls of segregation, health care rationing, and yes, even wishing publicly for death, as heard recently from the likes of Jimmy Kimmel, and Don Lemon, coming from the anti-vax mandate side.

          1. “Which side using the divisive rhetoric to their advantage, and which side is being victimized by that rhetoric?”

            Both sides, fc. Both sides are perpetrators, both sides are victims. To claim that one side (i.e., your side) is entirely innocent while the other side (i.e., not your side) is entirely guilty is to also engage in “us versus them” rhetoric.

            “As far as I know, I do not hear calls of [XYZ] coming from the anti-vax mandate side.”

            But surely you’ll recognize, emanating from certain vocal factions within that side (including here on SDA), accusations that pro-vax mandate folks are akin to Nazis, wishes for vaccinated people to suffer and die from COVID-19 AEFIs, death threats against perceived political enemies, etc.

        6. Are you sure your accusations toward the folks noticing what is going on and pointing it out are an “us versus them” scenario?
          I see myself, as an unvaxxed person wanting to go about my business. Now I find myself limited in my free movements and am speaking out about it. Do you think that’s the same as a person saying “I hate vaxxed people and want them to suffer!”? I’m not against vaxxed folks, at all. Are you able to discern the deference between someone wanting to go about their life, and another person finding glee in stopping them? And the media/government ginning up the hate for that one group?

          Maybe you can’t. That absolutely wouldn’t surprise me.

          1. “I hate vaxxed people and want them to suffer!” definitely fits an “us and them” mentality. That much I think we agree on. But you know, “When hasn’t the left embraced the division strategy…Now they have the whole population taking a side” also pits “us” (anyone wanting to go about their life, evidently) vs “them” (the left).

            “Are you able to discern the deference between someone wanting to go about their life, and another person finding glee in stopping them?”

            Of course. I actually support your choice to not get vaccinated. I don’t think vaccine passports are a good thing. But can you see that most people who support some kind of vaccine mandate or passport — and for better or for worse, a strong majority (~70-80%) of Canadians do — are not “finding glee” in stopping you from going about your business? Can you see that they’re also sick and tired of the pandemic, that they also just want to get back to life as normal, that they feel they’ve done their part to get us all towards that common goal by following public health recommendations and getting vaccinated, and that they feel a certain frustration with those who are unvaxxed not so much because of that personal choice but because of how they seem to proudly wear their unvaccinated status as a defiant political statement?

          2. Teddy boy is really sure he knows why people aren’t getting the vaccine. But you know what? It’s none of your business why people aren’t, in any case.

  6. A society in the grips of a fear-driven mania is a frightening thing. Last year was bad, the coming year is shaping up to be even worse. At a time we need leadership all we have is politicians.

  7. Why is BLM not destroying that restaurant? Where’s “the reverend” Jesse Jackson and the other race hustler who hasn’t paid his taxes, “the reverend” Al Sharpton?

    1. Rolling around ecstatically on enormous beds of Benjamins. Because oppression.

      You’re welcome.

  8. Power?
    These parasites have all the power we grant them.
    Thats it.
    They are thieves and cowards.
    Just as you can never find a voter who admits to having supported a loser politician,once their public facade crumbles,our progressive Comrades are never wrong.
    They will lay the ground work for tyranny and chaos,then insist this was never their “intent”,as if loosing criminal thugs into society would produce different results..
    As if creating Law fare Chaos would enhance respect for law.
    Ethics.
    You have them or you don’t.
    As many have pointed out,our progressive comrades are NOT going to enjoy their “new rules”,if we start to behave as they insist is right,we will exterminate them in short order.
    Decency and restraint require intelligence.
    Banishment has a whole lot going for it.
    We need a new country,which has defined defensible borders.
    For there can be no “negotiation” with parasites.

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