42 Replies to “They Left in the Middle of the Night”

  1. Why?
    Not like they’re going to find out rather quickly that the US Military is no longer in town.
    Pure incompetence by our politicians.
    We don’t need the Military anymore is now the normal narrative by what equipment they purchase or allowed to purchase.
    Our Canadian Politicians freaked on one for getting a support supply ship built and he won his court case.
    Ruined his career along with all these high ranking Generals who have allegations that stepped down.

    The diverse Military women inclusion was a disaster.

    Buying old broken down other countries garbage by our politicians…
    Look what a great deal we got.
    But it’s broken down and doesn’t work…
    But it was such a great deal.

    This mindset is our current politicians and it seems to be inherited with the job.
    Create our politicians into psychological.

  2. Looks more like a feature not a bug everyday.
    What disaster was this Afgan Theatre staged to cover for?
    It seems Obama’s master is pulling Weekend at Bernie’s Joe’s,strings with the same purpose.
    Cripple and demoralize the USA and her allies.
    With help such as this,we need no enemies.
    Fire those on the payroll and politely locate and extinguish those who are “Voluntarily Helping us along” .

    Incompetence or malice?
    Does not matter anymore.
    Failure and betrayal remain the same,regardless of the motivation..
    Our Go-gooders and expert help are the forces of chaos today.
    Delusions of Adequacy are extremely dangerous.

  3. There are two questions, aren’t there? Was it justified to leave and did we bungle the withdrawal so as to make things worse than they had to be.
    Here is a take from someone who lived in Kandahar under American protection for several years. Her insights are different from the medias. The Afghan Republic was basically a variant of organized crime on steroids. The government which was far more answerable to Pakistan than the US was engaged in racketeering of all kinds and the army personnel were running protection rackets. This does not, of course, excuse the manner that the withdrawal was handled.
    https://www.sarahchayes.org/post/the-ides-of-august

    1. The manner of the withdrawal is troubling. Whether it was intentional or not, leaving the weaponry up for grabs was like handing the Taliban the keys. I don’t think it was intentional, I think the US hoped it would fall into the hands of the existing Afghan Army. Nevertheless, possession of those weapon was a big leg up for the Taliban, giving them the upper hand against any resistance or rivals. Here is the problem, maybe it is better to have a central authority in place, no matter how vile, than allowing a complete breakdown into civil war. In some ways the American authorities were between a rock and a hard place. A disintegrating Afghanistan could lead to the mass migration and starvation of millions, worse than what we are anticipating now. To me, this is the existential threat. Consider that Erdogan claims to be holding back 5 million refugees from Europe ,as we speak, before this weekend ever happened.

      1. “Nevertheless, possession of those weapon was a big leg up for the Taliban, giving them the upper hand against any resistance or rivals.”
        Could this windfall of weapons be the lynchpin, the tipping point? Did it ,coupled with the precipitous withdrawal, accelerate the speed of the Taliban takeover and subsequently reduce the time frame to remove foreign nationals and Afghan allies?

  4. Billions of dollars worth of US military equipment was abandoned in this mass exodus including a wealth of armored vehicles, black hawk helicopters, scouting helicopters, over 40 fixed wing aircraft, night vision goggles, weapons still in their crates.

    Now, the primary financer of the Taliban is and has always been Iran. This is just a covert way for Obama’s original transfer of weaponry and wealth to Iran…because that is where all this hardware will eventually land.

    The purpose for such a slip-shod exit was partially to assure the transfer of this equipment without the pesky little problem of debating it in Congress. Because it’s not an issue that sits well with Americans. On the other hand, pure incompetence is something we’ve gotten used to from politicians and Biden in particular.

    If you wanted your proof that Obama and Jarrett are still very much calling the shots….there you go.

    1. Without a doubt.

      And why is it that the US can evacuate 16,000 civilian contractors overnight … but can only manage 1,000 +/- civilians per day now? Yeah, closing Bagram changes the capacity … but come on maaaan … we’re not really trying anymore.

      Iran … here’s another entire country of proxy warriors. You’re welcome. That’ll level the playing field with those fecking Joos! … Right? Glasses being clinked in all the Martha’s Vinyard hideaways.

    2. It seems that billions of new equipment was being shipped in even to the very last. WTF

      1. Who were the American military “strategists” who declared the Afghani forces would continue to exist without ANY American air support? And none of their own? Not to mention no more BIG American paychecks. Who advised the President of this?

        They should no longer be employed in the US Military. Gone. Tomorrow.

        And surely more than ONE Military/Pentagon genius said this of the “brave, brave, Afghani” soldiers. It must have been dozens and dozens of Military “leadership” who said so. Fire. Them. All.

        No, as a matter of fact I DON’T buy the push-back claiming the Afghani Army was ready for Prime Time. Rubbish. So … a bunch of them died “fighting for their country against the TolleyBon”? Sorry … I agree with Gen. Patton … you’re supposed to make the other damn bastard DIE for HIS country. That is the ONLY measure of military success.

    3. I don’t think so; the Iranians would support the Persian part of the popualtion, and take the pleasure in annoying the US but the main financiers are oil Sheiks and Pakistanis, with a little help from China.

  5. If they wanted to turn the page from the scamdemic they needed a big story.
    This sure works.

  6. Were I a betting man, I’d wager that the CIA got cute and placed trackers on a significant number of abandoned US equipment very much the same way Fast and Furious was run by the ATF. These people are not creative or innovative. They are predictable to the point of irony. It would not surprise me if this was done outside the purview of the White House…not for any sort of protection…but to gain something to use against the sitting president when necessary. This is how the CIA operates these days.

    1. They aren’t that competent.

      First iteration before Fast and Furious, they did have trackers in the limited number of weapons they let get sold southwards. That was under George W. Bush. Second iteration, under our sainted Obama, PBUH, they did not bother–And, exponentially increased the number of weapons sold. They intended for it to become a justification for limiting American firearm rights due to the number of weapons going into Mexico–Then, that blew up in their faces.

      Also, do note: There were precisely zero “whistleblowers” about Fast and Furious, despite copious violations of statute law by the agencies involved–Right up until one of their own got killed. Then? Then they started having a “crisis of conscience” over the program…

      Fire. Them. All. Strip them of their pensions, put them on the street, and out of government work for the rest of their lives. They should never work in positions of trust, anywhere. The people involved in all that crap ought to be living under bridges, not the homeless.

  7. Here is the full interview that this clip is taken from – (22 mins)
    https://youtu.be/Igu0Gvz1i2I
    Rory Stewart is articulate and has personal experience with A/Stan, therefore,
    perhaps worth listening to. Yet at no time does he even mention Pakistan – curious?

  8. China wins politically, economically, and militarily.

    John McCain for all his faults said something like we still have Bases in Germany and Japan, who cares how long our troops stay in Iraq.

    The media fried him for that one, but it’s a good point, no one gets too upset over those Bases, and today the biggest foreign presence in those countries are tourists.

  9. I hesitate to suggest this because I don’t have a mindset evil enough to to even contemplate it.

    We’re all thinking incompetence or malice. But is it possible that the “bungling” was deliberate, intended to provoke enough outrage to “justify” another bloody war somewhere?

      1. Or remove from office? Who’s Bai-Den’s replacement. It’s not Harris despite what people are led to believe.

  10. “Incompetence or malice?
    Does not matter anymore.
    Failure and betrayal remain the same, regardless of the motivation..
    Our Go-gooders and expert help are the forces of chaos today.
    Delusions of Adequacy are extremely dangerous.”
    I like this, mine is too wordy.

    The Biden withdrawal was so spectacularly bungled, it is hard to believe it wasn’t intentional. Yet, it is also hard to believe that the administration would have exposed themselves to the current degree of humiliation, mockery, and world wide ridicule. The memes of the authorities have been appalling and even Tony Blair has called the debacle “Imbecilic”.
    OTOH, you can’t discount the possibility that the political class is A) stupid/myopic B) cynical C) delusional D) naïve or all of the above. Even calling the “plan” amateurish doesn’t capture the ineptitude. Yet, the conclusion that they are too stupid to manage anything more complex than pouring piss pout of a boot doesn’t really work either. As Eric Weinstein has hypothesized, even debased institutions carry within them institutional knowledge and institutional memory, even if they are managed by dopes.
    Was their freakish fixation on Trump and the compulsion to deny him any, even minimal, success or recognition a contributing factor. Did that, coupled with their vacuous world view and the self regard of the perpetually cocooned, short circuit down to earth, practical analysis. I wonder if their priorities are so skewed that they spent more time on gender and equity mumbo/jumbo and on what to call their operation, than actual planning. Cuz, priorities. If I had been on the naming committee for Biden’s Afghan withdrawal, I would have called it “Operation Thundering Blunder”, or “Operation What Would Michael Scott Do”.

    Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

    1. Don’t forget how much they hate Trump. He arranged an orderly withdrawal; the demented ones couldn’t stomach that so they reneged on the deal and look what happened. I am sure they didn’t realize it would, even though someone somewhere in the state dept. or CIA must have understood. But never let a crisis go to waste.

  11. It was all a big mistake from the start to field a contingent of permanent garrisons, and or fund a foreign force forever in an attempt at changing the confident yet retrograde culture that has lasted for 1400 years in tact while the western culture, putrid state of leadership, and civilization is collapsing. It’s a shitty deal for all those Afghans that trusted the west enough to defy their tribal theocracies and assume that their world would change for the better. Only they can make that happen. Foreign policy failures are a feature not a bug. As Mark Steyn said years ago, US foreign policy is treacherous to its allies and non threatening to its enemies. That the end of this disaster was handled with the utmost incompetence is emblematic of the state of leadership.

  12. Sarah sums it up well.
    “Today, as many of those officials enjoy their retirement, who is suffering the cost?”

    This conclusion is applicable to “leadership” all around us.

  13. This Afghan debacle satisfies a large number of the Marxist’s goals for destroying western democracies.
    It’s not incompetence.

  14. Why would you abandon a functioning, fully equipped and fortified military airport when you’re planning a withdrawal.
    The heights of incompetence leading to lethal negligence are breathtaking.
    The guy has a point, except we and Trump and Biden and everybody would have to admit we were wrong to just pull out?

    Keeping the Taliban out of power in Afghanistan is probably impossible, but would Trump has scurried away in the night, would he have accepted such ridiculous advice?

    Meanwhile, in sentient land, VDS rocks with his succinct assessment of the virtue vectoring visigoths in Wokeland, all co-opted.
    US government proliferated with political appointees, a fifth column of ideological sycophants, glorified by our ignoble media.

    Cut that link by banning business and labour political contributions. Watch DeMarxist and RINO heads neocons explode on that one.

    “In a sane world, the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the secretary of defense would resign. We have heard for too long their careerist boasts about assigning climate change as their chief challenge. For too long they have virtue-signaled their critical race theory credentials to Congress. For too long they have bragged about rooting out alleged white supremacists from their ranks. For too long they have sparred with journalists while fighting Twitter wars and issuing cartoonish commercials attesting to their woke credentials.”

    As for Biden, his team in defeat threatens the victorious Taliban with possible ostracism from global diplomacy as the price of their illiberality. We are to assume that in between executing women, the Taliban will fear losing the chance to visit the U.N. in New York.”

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/biden-republican-democrats-congress-impeached-victor-davis-hanson

  15. Why all the tears? Some of them voted for this; they deserve whatever comes their way. Let them suffer the consequences of their own bad decisions. Let them be martyrs for their own cause; they won, they should be happy. In fact, we should rub this in. Any registered Democrats stuck in Afghanistan? Publish their names, and tell them “Biden won, you won, celebrate your victory!”

    For everyone else? There is no way to prove that you did not vote for Biden, with the secret ballot. You also, have to be on your own, a casualty of the formerly cold civil war. Sucks to be you.

    The lesson for everyone in the future? If you are a civilian in a war zone? Leave that country before inauguration day, and wait to see how things turn out, before you go back. If you have to stay in country? You should already have your own personal stockpile of USA military grade ordnance, so you will be fine. They are after all, just giving it away. Everyone knew it, for 20 years.

    It should now be obvious that the “cold” phase of this civil war is long since over. One side at least, no longer cares if there is a body count. How has being so caring and polite, worked out for you personally, so far. Hey, “I was better than that” would fit on a grave marker, right?

  16. If you’d look at this with the intellectual honesty you look for in others …. you have to admit that Biden sure showed Trump how to run an insurrection.

  17. A Democrat congress cut off major funding for South Viet Nam after SVN had been fighting the Soviet supplied NVA by themselves for two years. Then they failed to keep our treaty obligations when the NVA, freshly re-equipped by the Soviets, invaded South Viet Nam once again. South Viet Nam ran out of fuel, food and bullets and its people were pushed into the sea while Democrats celebrated their ‘victory.’

  18. Why on earth would our American military follow the orders of a man that everyone knows is senile! The delusions of the American elite as to who they elected or cheated to elect is astounding. Historians will record this belief system as comparable to the Tulip Mania.

  19. At first I thought it was incompetence from Biden/Democrats but I was wrong.

    It is all intentional.

    Since Obama ( well actually it began a little before him ) , Democrats have been the anti-USA and anti-white party,

    Democrats always want things that are bad for the USA, bad for white people.

    250,000 hispanic illegals invading each month? It hurts the USA and makes it look weak/bad…and it hurts whites who are a shrinking population ( see the last census )

    Teaching Critical Race Theory in school and in the military ? it hurts the USA and makes it look weak/bad

    and so on and so forth

    Pretty much everything Democrats do and want to do hurts the USA and white people.

    Democrats wanted this debacle in Afghanistan because they WANT the USA to be HUMILIATED and look weak, look bad.

    It is all intentional.

    Before anyone says ; that does not make sense!

    well consider this ; Democrats wanted the USA to lose in Vietnam…

    More and more people are finally realizing that is what Democrats are ; anti-USA and anti-white. and Democrats LOVE to see the USA HUMILIATED.

    oh and leaving behind Billions of dollars of military equipment? Also Fully Intentional ; its the second time Democrats do that, Obama had done it too…Democrats LOVE leaving behind military equipment that Muslim terrorist can use FOR FREE.

  20. Well deposit what has happened in the “Surprise, Surprise, Surprise!!!” File.

    We have been watching and financing this debacle and others like it for the last Seventy years. The West, America in particular, has been instrumental in formulating a foreign aid plan that has done nothing but create problems. So here is an idea, how about we pull our good intentions back from the brink of oblivion and just focus on what we can accomplish in out own yard. We were never intended to be the saviors of the world. Suppose all of the foreign aid spent in the last Seventy years had been used here at home. Think of the standard of living the West could have built within our own borders. We’d have affordable housing with clean drinking water and sewage for everyone, we’d have a health care system with no waiting lists and everyone would have access to a family physician, we’d have an affordable education system. The list would be endless, but the biggest bonus would be the reduction in useless politicians, bureaucrats and diplomats that contribute nothing to the common pot, they’d have to find useful employment like the rest of us. We’d be the envy of the world and other countries would try to emulate our example. They would either succeed or fail on their own merit, and that in a nutshell is what life is all about anyway.

  21. From what I have heard, the abandoned Afghan forces did put up a fight. They were screaming over the radio for air support that no longer existed. Many units were wiped out before they knew what had happened. Only once they realised they were on their own without US air support did they start giving up.

    1. Fire up few nukes into the atmosphere to trigger some EMP’s.
      That would definitely detroy western civilization.
      No Grid, no Juice.
      Every thing screeches to a halt.
      3 days later the cities explode in violence, the rest that happens is in some sci-fi or zombie movies.
      Then after a few months when the countries are devastated, you mount a land invasion and mop up any resistance.
      Now you have a clean slate to bring in your people and start farming , using the resources for your own growing nation.

  23. That sounds like so much bullshit. You don’t have thousands of people “leave” a base in the middle of the night and have nobody notice.

  24. Stop right there and give your fng head a shake. “This has not been a costly mission” . Are you out of your fucking mind?!? Obviously it’s not your son, daughter, husband, wife or whoever who lost their life in that god forsaken shithole. 3500 were killed in 20 years not to mention those who have injuries that’ll be with them for the rest of their life not to mention billions spent on training a totally untrainable Afghan fighting force who would rather smoke hashish on their off hours. To hell with it.
    And he brags about “No U.S. serviceman was killed in 18 months” as if it’s some weird badge of honour. Well holy fuck – let’s stay in there forever if that’s the case. Put that in your U.S. Army recruitment poster. Afghanistan: Yours to Discover
    Want to talk about a withdrawl/retreat logistic clusterfuck? Yup, I’m on board. Don’t tell us what a jerk we are for closing shop and leaving.

    What a dick.

  25. I’m English and Rory Stewart is a joke! ‘The Afghans woke up in the morning…’ Were the Afghans at the Base deaf and blind? Stewart is a tosspot.

  26. Stewart is ex Foreign and Commonwealth Office – our version of the US State Dept has similar problems and similar biases as the State Dept including the links to the intelligence branches.

  27. I confirm that Rory Stewart is a tosspot, a flake, and a supreme narcissist. He thought he could be leader of the Tory party, for God’s sake. His political views are well to the left.

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