67 Replies to “It’s Probably Nothing”

    1. Bad news for Liberals, but death knell? No.

      Still look to take a third of the seats. And that is with the worst Prime Minister in history, after the most egregious vote buying spree in history.

      If these people actually wanted to punish corruption, there would be zero Liberal seats. Zero, would be a death knell. Anything other than zero, is a lean election or two at best.

      Look how fast the Liberals were back to majority after the disaster of Trudeau the First.

      1. Look how fast the Liberals were back to majority after the disaster of Trudeau the First.

        Yup. He was swept into office in 1968, thanks to the Liberal Party’s Trudeaumania campaign. He even won seats in Alberta.

        By 1972, people had become disillusioned and the FLQ affair didn’t help. He was handed a minority government as a reward. He got his revenge when he was returned with a majority in 1974. That’s when his war against Alberta began in earnest.

        Joe Who’s brief tenure only delayed the inevitable. Months after PET came back in 1980, he punished Alberta with the NEP.

        Prince Prissy Pants will be even worse.

        1. B A, that’s what I’m afraid of. If the Rt. Hon. one gets back in as prime minister, he will be out to completely destroy the Western Canadian energy industry. With the Canadian economy on the brink of disaster, there is no telling what the fool will do.

          1. If the Rt. Hon. one gets back in as prime minister, he will be out to completely destroy the Western Canadian energy industry.

            He made his intentions clearly known during his previous term. He, or, rather, Butts, helped enact legislation banning the transport of oil by tanker from B. C., as well as banning certain pipelines.

            The doofuses in Lotusland, no doubt, cheered him and there’s no question about how Toronto and Quebec felt. Fishland doesn’t have to bother because it has Irving Oil.

          2. Quebec won’t allow the pipeline to “Fishland” and its $6 Billion fishery that has been an economic mainstay for centuries and probably helped the poor West before they found their liquid gold. Good thing too that oil is so easy compared to fishing, seeing as all these real Western “Conservative” leaders you send to us seem to missing some things. Like gonads. Like real Conservative policies.
            Joe Who? Parson Manning. Wrong Way Stock. Surrender Steve.
            Right there you have a lot of all hat no cattle.

            Please stop with the endless Separation whining.
            You’re going nowhere.

            And neither is poll leading and former NDP Notley government’s Alberta.
            Or Redmonton.
            Or Nenshi’s Calgary.
            Or Tommy’s Saskatchewan.
            Or Ralphie’s Winnipeg.
            Or Lotusland.
            So unless you’re going to redo the Trail of Tears, not sure just what land you’re taking with you?

            You guys are as good at Conservatism and Separation as the Liberals are at Math.

    2. Hopefully a sign of things to come.

      Even the Clown Prince has to run out of Teflon sometime and maybe, just maybe, after years of prying that boulder has FINALLY shifted…!

      1. @Bruce:
        Yup, even the Bluenosers realized what a slimy fool Turdoo is. I hope enough of us Herring Chokers wise up enough to strip currently held liberal seats for Parliament from the liberals.

        1. It looks like the cons have swung far enough left with their giveaways for the folks to change gravy trains.

  1. How many Liberals that served under Trudeau the First are still in Parliament anyway? King Ralph was one, Chretien was one.

    1. I just checked. Looks like King Ralph was the last one, that was in PET’s government.

  2. Here’s hoping it’s not nothing. I know oh tool doesn’t buy us much but it’s better than Trudeau maybe. Maybe an oh tool cabinet could teach him how to do politics.

  3. So let me get my mind around this one.

    The “Conservatives” got yanked to the ideological left with an increase in government spending projects and they get handed a majority.

    Is this the new recipe for Conservatives getting elected? Become Liberals?

    Then O’Foole is a shoe in.

    Vote left or hard left. Seems like a winning strategy /sarc.

    1. I’ve been hearing that about the PC’s as well. I’m just catching up on NS politics. If this is true… if the NS PC’s are really to the left of the NS Libs, then this really isn’t a victory for cons after all.

      In fact, I’ll go one step further and say that this is really bad for conservatives in this country, because this means that for a “conservative” party to win, they’d have to sell out on their principles and become liberals, leaving true-blue cons disenfranchised.

      I’ve noticed something about myself. I’m becoming an eternal pessimist. I see bad even when the news is supposed to be good. One could call it paranoia, but It comes from more than 2 decades of disappointment of the Canadian electorate.

      1. Check out the history of the BC Liberals, especially under Crime-isity Clark. This is not a new story. Clark and her gang tried to save their bacon by proposing a budget that was far to the left of the NDP, in a bid to hang on to power. Wisely rejected by our LG.

      2. If they call themselves conservatives with a condition (ie progressive) then it’s conservative in name only.

        1. A friend of mine, although speaking of advertising, coined the following phrase: “Any adjective means ‘not’.”

    2. “Vote left or hard left. Seems like a winning strategy /sarc.”

      That’s why I stopped voting in Vancouver elections. I had a ‘choice’ of voting for the NDP guy, the other NDP guy or the communist.

  4. Every poll had Nova Scotia Liberals winning a majority or minority.
    Almost every poll has Trudeau’s Liberals winning a majority or minority.

    Hmmm…

    1. Yeah, while I am less than enthusiastic about CPC, the prospect of Fidel Baked Potato getting humiliated by a spineless doorknob is delicious.

  5. Good news. SO the new NS PC government had better NOT introduce a vaccine ID pass.

  6. So if the vaccine ID pass is going to be a deciding factor, then O’Toole has FUBaRed that.

    1. That’s the way I generally sway on these things as well. It isn’t over till voting day. Candidates tend to step in it themselves and trends could flip in 24 hours.

      bverwey

  7. People are weary from the pandemic, an election is not a priority, for many it’s jobs and survival.

    Trudeau’s Butt brain probably figured it would be a good excuse to pass out loads of goodies and having an election would be a sure win.

    1. Liz, the government created the fake pandemic, maybe it is time to punish them, all of them.

      1. @Very old dumb white guy:
        Not a fake pandemic. If the steps they took were not taken(and that could have been done more effectively), then we would be much worse off. Look at the USA, they are in trouble with the growing amount of cases. Give your head a shake.

        1. Thanks CG,always nice to know what the “narrative” is each day.
          What evidence, besides “group think” do you have for that argument?
          We are better off,than if the Wuhan Flu had raged through unchecked?
          By what metric?
          For we are now bankrupt and stripped of all illusions of having individual rights,freedoms or access to rule of law..
          Fake Pandemic.
          Lethal Government “Help”.

        2. You’re way behind the curve and simply spreading propaganda. “Cases” are meaningless. Turn off the MSM and do some research. Starting with why asymptomatic β€œinfections” are almost always called β€œcases” by nearly everyone ?

        3. Tests are not cases and you are so dumb I just can’t believe that the average Canadian is that dumb. Oh right, I have been saying that for decades that the average Canadian is as dumb as a bag of rocks.

  8. The tell is when the liberals retool their campaign and start saying to the NDP and Greens.

    Lend us your vote.

  9. Canadians often have conservative provincial leaders and Libranos in at the federal level.
    The cons in NS went left with health care spending – nobody knows how to make spending more efficient – fire administration turds and stop triplication.
    Hatred of Fidel Trudeau is at an all time high – if you are normal.
    Mushy people – blue Libs – don’t like being called racists or accused of genocide. Rightly so. Who does? If O’Fool sticks to those two subjects and nails the Libs who were mostly in power for the Rez Skools he might convince some blue Libs that the Neurotic Narcissist needs to go.

  10. The Nova Scotia PCs ran to the left of the governing Liberals on health care. Also, the Liberals had a number of black-flag issues that hurt their popularity. I agree though about the media polling being wrong.

  11. 338Canada in its final poll projection for the NS election (Aug 16) had the Libs at 39.3% and the PCs at 35.7%. The final result was PCs 39.1% and Libs 36.7%. So they weren’t that far off.

    But their seat projection was wildly off, as they predicted 28.9 seats for the Libs and 19.3 for the PCs. The actual seat count was 31 for the PCs and 17 for the Libs.

    So ya Trudeau is shitting his pants.

  12. Now, hopefully Premier Ford and this O’Foole character get their acts together and knock off listening to the corrupted media and actual get a pair and do some good rather than prancing around what the media might say.

    They know that no matter what they say will be spun by Trudeau’s media buying corruption.
    Just make sure everyone knows who bought them and how wrong they’re polls have been.

  13. I won’t hold my breath.

    All media is in the business of making opinion and that business model depends on convincing their clients they are able to create opinions.

    The only nervous people right now are the pollsters.
    The liberals are so full of themselves and their faith in their single fashionable campaign plank that they will be ignoring this as an outlier.

    1. You got it, Joseph.

      Every now and then they run a fly-ball story to pretend that they’re impartial.

      1. Every story is written to get some kind of reaction.
        It’s not the truth that matters, nor the reaction, only the number of people that react to the dog whistle.

  14. Gotta say, for your USA readers – “Progressive Conservatives”? – “Liberals” who aren’t? – I’m still not sure who won. The good guys? The less good guys?

  15. Apparently Adolf The Gay Nazi has to attend an emergency G7 meeting next week. He will have to get his lapdogs to take his place ranting about Harper.

  16. If OToole wins we’ll need a massive turnout for Maverick. Otherwise the West will get run over by the CPC mad dash to left of Trudeau.

  17. Oh oh…the IiberaI war room is getting their heads together to decide their next move.
    Racist IabeI not working……abortion threat not being bought any more…..foIks don’t care about aII that free money Justin been throwing around…….Media might not be abIe to heIp out; even after the miIIions in bribe money???

    Time for PIan B:

    From the CBC: “This just in, due to the DeIta variant, the staff at EIections Canada has announced that miIIions of “maiI in baIIots” wiII be sent out this week…..bIah..bIah..bIah…to Keep Canadians safe, we have your back, and those wishing to join it, going foward together, buiId back better…., canada is back…..Conservatives bad”

  18. There’s no chance of any of the Atlantic provinces voting Conservative federally and we all know why.

    1. As recently as the 2011 federal election the Blue Liberals (CPC) swept 8 out of 10 seats in New Brunswick, and tied the Red Liberals in Nova Scotia.

    2. Don’t blame the Maritimes for the MTV Party(montreal-35 seats, toronto-79 seats vancouver-11 seats = 125 of 157) and inept Liberal-lite Conservative leaders accompanied by a sole Media so co-opted that CBC may be the best option.(yes, that bad)

      I’m sitting in my NB riding that has been Conservative for 96 of the last 104 years, bordered by 2 other current Conservative ridings with similar histories.
      In fact, 6 out of NB’s 10 federal ridings were usually blue until Harper’s brilliant “Maritimers are a defeated people” speech and subsequent turtling.
      The other 4 ridings are French and therefore Liberal. – 10 seats

      Leftist Wiki:
      “Nova Scotia has historically been a conservative region, with former prime ministers Charles Tupper and Robert Borden (native sons who governed as leaders of the historical Conservative Party), and Brian Mulroney (who governed as leader of the successor Progressive Conservative, or PC, Party) along with PC Opposition leader Robert Stanfield (who was previously the province’s premier) holding seats in the province for extended periods of time. However, unlike rural ridings in the prairies, most Nova Scotia voters hold Red Tory views rather than socially conservative ones, as reflected in Nova Scotia being one of the few areas in the country where the PCs remained competitive between their 1993 collapse and their 2003 merger with the Canadian Alliance into the present-day Conservative Party of Canada. The Liberals swept Nova Scotia in their 1993 landslide, but lost all ten seats in 1997β€”five each to the New Democratic Party (NDP) and PCs. Under former leader Alexa McDonough, the NDP made major gains there in 1997, picking up seats in the Halifax and Cape Breton areas. The Liberals, wiped out in 1997, made a resurged in 2000.

      Today, the Liberals are at their strongest in Cape Breton and the Halifax area, the NDP are at their strongest in the Halifax area, and the Conservatives are at their strongest in rural mainland Nova Scotia. In 2015, the Liberals swept Nova Scotia in convincing fashion, winning an outright majority of the votes cast in all but one riding; that year, they won every seat in Atlantic Canada. In 2019, the Liberals maintained their dominance in the province, winning 10 out of 11 ridings, with one riding, West Nova, going Conservative. ” – 11 seats

      “Newfoundland and Labrador has been a Liberal heartland since it joined Canada in 1949, with only the city of St. John’s electing Progressive Conservatives on a relatively consistent basis in the past” – 7 seats

      “From 1988 to 2006, Prince Edward Island did not elect a non-Liberal MP. In 2008, the Conservatives finally broke through in the province, as Gail Shea was elected in Egmont. Lawrence MacAulay won by less than 300 votes in both 1997 and 2000, but won with a commanding majority in 2004. In 2011 PEI had an unusual result in which the Conservatives had the most votes province-wide, but won only one out of the four provincial seats. This was due to a comfortable margin of victory in Egmont, and closer losses in the other three ridings. In 2015, the Liberals easily swept all 4 seats. They repeated the sweep in 2019, but with smaller margins due to a large rise in Green support. ” – 3 seats

  19. Speaking of polls. I’ve been asked for jury duty at least four times in my life. Asked for my political favourite running in an upcoming election? Zip.
    A mystery of life that won’t be answered before I shuffle off this mortal coil. Well, that and what’s the deal with UFOs.

    1. They’re either earth people visiting from the future (which Einstein said is impossible), or they’re exactly what CSICOP and the Air Force say: various perfectly normal aerial and optical phenomena combined with stupidity and outright lying.

      Yer welcome. πŸ™‚

  20. Bluenoser here.

    Do —NOT— take any lessons from this provincial campaign to the federal campaign. The provincial NS parties effectively “flip flopped” – the Liberals ran to the right of the PCs and the PCs ran to the left of the Liberals. Also, the PCs made fixing the provincial health care system, which everyone in this province can agree is somewhere between “broken” and “FUBAR”, their number one campaign issue. Including running multiple-hundred-million-dollar deficits at the beginning of their term to address. The Liberals meanwhile were hell-bent on wrestling down the deficit ASAP and are wearing a broken promise from years ago to address the serious family doctor shortage. Nova Scotians are sick of being told they can’t have doctors. Finally there have been a number of “health care system badly broken” news stories of late, including a death of a man who went to the ER who had to wait 2-3 hours before being triaged; and a situation where the province was effectively out of ambulances because they were stuck at ERs waiting to unload patients. These came out late and ate into Liberal poll numbers. The new Liberal leader, who failed to connect with voters on the campaign trail, essentially tried to ride his predecessor’s COVID response to another majority and failed to do so.

    The pollsters did start to see the shift away from the Liberals and toward the PCs in the last week, but clearly it shifted very fast at the end and the pollsters didn’t catch the end of the Liberal collapse. Even then the final popular vote totals were within the margin of error I believe (currently showing PC 38.9%, Lib 36.7%, NDP 21.1%). Only 9,000 votes separate the two main parties, and the combined Lib+NDP vote is substantially higher than the PC vote. Metro Halifax, revoltingly left-leaning, did not participate the PC victory. The city core elected a slate of Liberal and NDP MLAs, with only a couple of the outlying ridings electing PCs.

    This is a Red Tory victory. The PC leader even compared himself to Trudeau on the trail, not O’Toole. I suspect the Liberals will easily win a majority of the federal ridings. Western-style conservatism does not sell here, period, and the CPC is widely regarded as akin to Reform or even Republicans, which are simply toxic brands here. Had McKay won the leadership he could have worked to dispel that notion, or he could’ve been branded a sellout. Toss-up. Moot.

    Atlantic Canada has long been and remains mostly hostile to small-c conservatism. Only pockets of New Brunswick are somewhat receptive, and that’s largely a cultural response to imposed official bilingualism, which rankles a not-insignificant chunk of English New Brunswickers. Nova Scotians? Forget about it. This is a left-leaning mediocre province that does not aspire to be anything else.

    Trudeau has nothing to worry about here.

    1. Would there be a majority of voters out there that are dependent on a government cheque?
      The reason I ask is that any of those voters would perceive any party advocating for less government as an existential threat to that government cheque.
      It would hypothetically be like asking all the workers in a company to either work for free or quit.

      And this

      β€œ This is a left-leaning mediocre province that does not aspire to be anything else.”

      Boy that sure sounds ….. defeatist

      If that is the case then what Harper said had a grain of truth that the Atlantic provinces refused to acknowledge (aka cognitive dissonance)

      1. I don’t know if it’s an outright majority but it’s certainly large enough that you cross it at extreme peril. Witness what happened to the federal Liberals in the 1997 campaign after the first-term Chretien government imposed some EI reforms. The Liberals were savaged out here in favour of PCs (Reform never had any traction here and the CA only a penny’s worth more than that).

        I have lived in the Maritimes all my life. Born & raised in NB. Moved to NS close to 20 years ago. It is only in the last … five? Years or so that I have genuinely come to understand what is wrong about this place. As Peter down there puts it, the only thing Maritimers hate more than failure is success. Get too big for your britches down here and the crabs will pull you back into the bucket, aided & abetted by those in power. I watched a friend of mine build a very successful business on his own power only to have it gutted by power-hungry unions aided & abetted by the courts, while the government sat on the sideline and refused to do anything about it, even as MLAs would privately admit to him that he was getting screwed. He eventually closed the business outright, left for greener pastures, and went dead silent on social media; I suspect he could no longer tolerate the unions’ hounding him via same.

        If I were a younger man and didn’t have family ties, I’d be out of here. Either Alberta or the midwest of the USA, where some sanity still prevails.

        1. Have you ever heard of Notley and the Ndp?
          Redmonton?
          Nenshi?
          Tommy?
          Ralphie?
          Lotusland?

          In any area there are winners and losers.
          Don’t project your losing attitude on everyone.
          If you had ever lived anywhere else you’d know it’s mostly the same everywhere in Canada now, only different by degrees.
          The Liberal buying of Canada may have originated in the failure of the Atlantic cod fishery(with the attendant devastation of many communities-see Western Dirty Thirties) but it has certainly permeated the whole of Canada.
          More widespread than any virus.
          How high is the % of Canadians getting a guv cheque these days? 45%? 50% Higher?

          Don’t see a single recipient anywhere refusing free Librano bucks.
          Noooooooooooboooooooooooodyy!!!
          Not even those morally superior westerners with their similar to eastern can companies.
          You know.
          The only Canadian kind.
          The privatized profits, socialized losses kind.

          If you guys didn’t have someone else to blame for your shortcomings you might have to do some self reflection.
          Painful but obviously sorely needed.

    2. Another Bluenoser here, and I.M. is on the money. The only thing NS’ers hate more than failure is success. Any tall poppies here are immediately cut down, lest they expose the whinging bunch of losers for what they are. I think it comes from the Scottish heritage, a sad lot if ever there was one.

      1. A friend of mine grew up in NB and had the perspicacity to realize he needed to get out and the talent and discipline to get an engineering degree from UNB. He moved to SWO, got his PEO and is now doing quite well for himself.

        A few years back he invited his younger brother out to stay with him while looking for work, on the theory that given better opportunities he could also improve his lot. In short order said brother had mildly injured himself on the job, was living off of disability, and had shacked up with a 30 year old chain-smoking single mother of three. My friend kicked him out shortly thereafter.

        As he said at the time, “you can take the boy out of the Maritimes…”

        1. My NB neighborhood?

          President of Delta.
          Major gold company pres.
          U of Toronto law professor.
          Rogers head ofc computer programmer.
          International ship’s captain.
          Harvard professor.
          Inuit social worker.
          Large Fish company owner.
          Several successful entrepeneurs.
          Any many more smart successful folks.
          Lot of the rest spend many days in airports flying back and forth to Ft. Mac etc.

          Me?
          I went to Ontario, found the streets paved with gold and am now enjoying the good parts( no crime,no locked doors, no traffic, friendly folks, inexpensive living, waterfront) of the 1950’s in NB

  21. “unveiled a left-leaning platform that focused on increasing the number of family doctors, bolstering the mental health system and building nursing home beds.”

    I love the thought process of magically procuring MDs.
    Ooops,,,,I forgot about all the hundreds of highly educated Afghan MD’s coming over as refuges.

  22. Canada has scoured the world looking for medical doctors. Bribed them to come here. In AB there are so many from South Africa that they have their own fraternal association. Still, there is a doctor shortage.

    Nova Scotia is in a competitive marketplace for docs. Few want to locate in rural settings. How many med students graduate in fishworld each year? How many stay to practice?

  23. One aImost has to feeI sorry for the IiberaIs when they Iose an eIection. The Iooks on their faces, when they reaIize that they are about to experience a 4 year hiatus on their abiIity to steaI from the pubIic treasury is heartbreaking.
    I imagine they do get some soIace from the fact that many of them have aIready Ioaded up on Government contracts that wiII ensure the paydays keep coming in for a whiIe yet though.

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