PAGING SCOTT MOE: Quebec can unilaterally modify part of the Canadian Constitution, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said Tuesday.
h/t Lev
PAGING SCOTT MOE: Quebec can unilaterally modify part of the Canadian Constitution, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said Tuesday.
h/t Lev
1. By allowing provinces to change the Constitution, you can get a new country, but your hatred for Quebec obviously blinds you to this possibility.
2. If Alberta had any brains, they would embrace this, and use it as a pretext to get out from under the feds stranglehold on their resource/energy sector. I shan’t hold my breath.
Sorry, this only applies to one part of this worthless country. Anything done by a white anglo will be subject to the test of “Peace, Order and Good Government”
If the white anglos refuse to stand up for themselves, that’s their problem, not the frogs.
“Quebec can unilaterally modify part of the Canadian Constitution”
No they can’t, and there are procedures for modifying the Constitution, and this is not a power the Prime Minister can give away on a whim – or at all. Who died and made him king?
“Who died and made him king?”
99% of Canadians who had any balls, and see every development from our useless owners as yet another excuse to bend over and take it up the wazoo instead of a pretext to take back our freedoms.
I think I agree with that. Don’t know what Justin thinks he is pulling here but it does not pass the smell test. Increasingly I feel that’s true regarding everything emanating from the PM.
Who died and made him king?
One, judging by all the scandal that he has generated without any excrement landing on him and second that he decided he can take up residence by squatting in the vice regal’s cottage why would he think otherwise.
The fun fact is that he just opened the constitutional Pandora’s box. Should this start gaining momentum there will soon be a restart of the constitutional cottage industry that absorbed most of the oxygen around Ottawa for almost three decades.
My hope is that this time the inevitable outcome of it all comes to a head while the author of this $hit show is in the PMO so he is forced to own it.
Y. Knott, you are correct. The procedure for modifying the Constitution is written in the 1867 BNA Act which cannot be changed or modified without all of the provincial Premiers being involved and voting unanimously for the change(s).
“This country it belongs to us “… Juthtin the Turdhole.
He means the horse french talkers of Queerbek, and he”s right. Horse french talkers are at the top of Peeairs multi ethni-nazi State hierarchy.
Ummm. Did Quebec sign the so-called Constitution? Nope.
Quebecers are special (even perfect Harper said so) – a nation, and then we have all the other “first nations”. Anyone who came after that are egregious “settlers”.
You got that right!
So now we know what the price of the Blocs support of bill c-10 was. The bastards got their 30 pieces off silver, and a chance to smack the rest of the country in the face.
No if Albertans and SK had any brains they would declare UDI and get the hell out. No negotiations. No Clarity Act BS No Treaty’s No Contracts. Tell the Feds to vacate on the same day. Totally out of each Province on a firm deadline. That means out of every facility and even the Parks. With the stipulation that every pipeline running east and west will be valved in and the rail line ripped up at the border if they do not comply. As well as the Trans Canada blockaded. We are Nations too just like Quebec and the 15,000 Indian Nations that Crooked Liberal Judges imposed.
Fook them all in one stroke.
Tell every Red Neck with a gun and no criminal record you are drafted into the SK/Alberta Militia.
The New Firewall
Agreed. While you’re at it, ditch the whole “trickle down” power model that most governments now adhere to; make yourselves a Constitution like that of the USA, except on steroids…make imposing income taxes a capital offense, etc.
Watcher: Yours sounds like a reasonable position considering the creeping advantages being given Quebec with respect to the Constitution. Indeed, is Quebec even a signatory to that document? Someone please educate me.
Trudeau’s middle finger to the ROC is very close to being an irresistible provocation.
is Quebec even a signatory to that document?
No, they never signed on and that’s how they think they can continue the shakedown – by owning the PM. And that’s the way Ontario likes it.
That Bullsh!t Most of Ontario votes Conservative, its the Toronto area, aka the golden horse shoe and South Western Ontario where the liberals have nearly all the seats reserved for progressive lefties and 3rd world immigrants. The total number of people voting Conservative is greater than those voting liberal, or NDP as if they count,
If most of Ontario votes Conservative and O’toole supports Quebec in this, then, Ontario likes it.
We “thought” we had just the Premier to stand up to the East in Kenney. Sadly he turned out to be useless.
Now is the time for another Ralph Klein. How I miss that REAL ALBERTA MAN,
How long before Quebec modifies the “Constitution” to allow itself to seize all of Alberta’s oil for itself?
Kenney, of course, won’t do anything.
The left in Quebec: “We must increase transfers from Alberta so we can have cheap daycare!”
The left in Alberta: “We must increase transfers to Quebec so they can have cheap daycare!”
I leave it to the reader to determine which are the greater retards.
Au contraire. I’m sure he’ll leap into action……at his computer, writing a Strongly worded letter! What a man! (actually, more of a bleating eunuch).
Then can the rest of the provinces alter the constitution to say that Quebec is a third-world cesspool and no longer their responsibility?
Asking for a friend.
Not in any meaningful way. It’s a dodge to change the channel from their negligence towards society and economy.
Who would agree that building it back bigger and better is the same as good government, our constitutional guarantee.
People have to go the polls and kick these ingrates out. Ignorant arrogance is dynamite around the likes of China and Iran.
We could be pulled in easily, far more so than under Strongman Trump. Canada’s leadership sits in his basement.
$400b deficit. Unacceptable. Now I vote for someone else. NDP supports C-10. Nope, now I vote for someone else.
Issue by issue, battle by battle. Take the boy blunder on when he deeks to “white supremacy.” Make the Grits name names.
Outside the safe confines of Parliament, testable under defamation. Let them pull a Schumer they’re hiding in plain sight.
Sadly that’s not going to happen, now that the Grits and Tories are “neck and neck,” so the Progressive Conservatives will play it safe, as the media waits in ambush, and lose once again, along with policy, the country and quite likely her geographical existence.
Quebec already does whatever it wishes with the blessing and support of whoever the stupid voters of this country
elect. We have a prime example in soon to be re-elected Justin Trudeau.
Since our politicians faked this flu into a PANDEMIC…
What happens when the real one does hit?
Our government version of essential and safe are really worrisome in a REAL CRISIS PANDEMIC.
Certainly many massive more people would have died our politicians way.
Given its ineptitude with the scamdemic, can you imagine the current political class mobilizing this country’s resources for World Wars I or II?
You’re getting a new country.
Good and hard
And O’Toole agrees:
https://westernstandardonline.com/2021/05/otoole-agrees-with-trudeau-quebec-can-change-constitution-by-themselves/
Meanwhile, bettors in Las Vegas start a Bananada pool on how long it will be until our country implodes from stupidity.
And in Bill C-10, David Lametti concurs that rights in Canada may be limited by legislation because of the reasonable limits clause for the greater “public good”.
https://tnc.news/2021/05/19/david-lametti-stresses-charter-rights-can-be-limited-in-public-interest-at-c-10-hearing/
So all bets are off as to where this ends up.
Yeah, no surprise that O’Toole is fully on board. But please useless partisan Canadian ‘conservatives’ tell me again why I have to vote for the Torys cause we need to beat Trudeau….
If voting for a Tory, who is really a Grit-dressed-up-as-a-Tory, then you are not voting for a Tory and still winding up with a Grit no matter who is PM. And equally shafted by either or.
I tell my Tory pals that I am not voting for O’Toole and they are all over the “but you are helping Trudeau win”. Trudeau or O’Toole, we are equally screwed and I am willing to put up with whatever the next election cycle or two has to offer in order to let the r/K forces shift things back to K-territory (i.e. right side of the political spectrum). I may be dead by then, but my kids will benefit.
What are we waiting for? Let’s get our mods in first.
So, the one province that has never signed on to the constitution in the first place, is the greatest beneficiary of that constitution, can change it at their will (as if they couldn’t before)
What a pathetic joke this “country” is.
Don’t worry, Kenney will tweet about standing up for Alberta so all is good
I hear he’s possibly going to have his people send a strongly worded letter to someone else’s people and maybe even post it on Facebook.
The horror! The horror!
I wish you hadn’t told me that, now my anxiety is through the roof!
/sarc
He might even use bold type!
That’s it. I’m done. I can’t even imagine such resolute leadership!
Comic Sans….
I hear the Lavender Mafia are working overtime to make sure they get their plans fulfilled. We are now witnessing the Vatican and all those who are Jesuits and Jesuit trained getting the satisfaction of a job well done.
This whole scenario is coming together brilliantly right before our eyes.
PET, Justin and the team have been working this a very long time.
I would like an apology from Kate when she and her ilk ridiculed and marginalized me earlier in this sites comment forum. I was espousing a viewpoint that most Canadians are intellectually lazy simp Marxists, and that Canada needed a truly armed revolution to create a new democratic Republic of Canada. It seems that my comments ring even more true now as they did then.
It is time to arm up and take your country back by force from these Marxist d-bags, that is if it does not interfere with receiving your welfare payments!
“I would like an apology from Kate”
Dream on.
Get over yourself, that ain’t gonna happen.
They can change the constitution they never ratified in the first place? It’s time for the rest of us to kick them out of the country, or even dissolve the federation.
Not to mention that all Governmental executive positions including PM’s and Premeirs are APPOINTED by Canada’s true owners, The Mentally Retarded and Inbred Royal Family of England through their proxies on the Privy Council!
That is not factual. Since Statute of Westminster 1931 the Sovereign has never appointed a GG etc. That has been done by the PM usurping the power of the Sovereign.
Go read what a Letters Patent is pre 1931. Versus since you will see the signature of the PM. Were pre 1931 it was always the Sovereign.
We have never ever had a Constitution. The BNA Act was not a Constitution and does not even belong to Canada. As PET found out when he went to London all full of himself and how he was going to demand that England give us our BNA ACT and Constitution.
He was told the BNA Act did not belong to Canadians or Canada.
That it was merely a Statute of the English Parliament just written instructions to an appointed GG of the Sovereign on how they wanted the Colony’s of Canada managed.
Canada has always been just a scam a fake Democracy. Quebec is technically right, they can do as they please, because Ottawa knows that once we all understand, just like Quebec does that Ottawa better do as Quebec wants because it is legal since 1931.
He was told he could not have the BNA and was sent home with a copy. That is fact.
And in 1982 all the Indian Chiefs found out the same thing.
The Chiefs huffed and puffed and put on their head dress and regalia and flew to London for an audience with Queen, the were going to Demand the Queen stop PET and his new Constitution.
They had Treaty’s directly with the Sovereign they SAID. As long as Rivers Flow and Grass Grows Bullshit.
And Oh Dear Me. The Queen refused to see them. The Queens spokesman informed the Glorious Puffed Up Pricks that it was all up to Ottawa that the Crown has no say in Canada in any matter whatsoever.
That since 1931 Statute of Westminster the Crown has had no say and is in charge of NOTHING in the former colonies of SA, India, Aust. NZ. Orange Free State and the Colonies of Canada.
The only thing retained by the Sovereign was the right to pick who the next King or Queen would be.
Then they began the British Commonwealth Scam so as to try and retain some control and fleece the Colonials a while longer.
Read some actual Canadian History. Oh wait, yes of course that is why they no longer teach Canadian History.
Look up Walter Kuhl. MP for Edson Alberta in the late 30/40’s this is all in the Hansard.
Blah Blah Blah./…
The PM and the Premier appear on no ballot anywhere. End of story!
To be fair, an election is coming so Adolf The Gay Pirate has to give Paybec everything it wants. I wonder if I can make my cottage a nation and make Old English the official language?
The Son is afraid to argue, especially with Quebec.
Le Dauphin
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.–Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government.
That piece of prose that makes the independence document and the constitution of the US, are the most excellent piece of manual on how to run country of free and equal people.
It should have gotten a Nobel peace prize and literature. It should be in an indestructible archives of the world for preservation for future generations so they will be able to compare their current state of sophisticated oppression with what freedom sounds and looks like.
The current forces of evil are doing their best to do away with that.
One can wonder, why is that?
There was a small country in central Europe that was run by the communists, the constitution of the country, that every 8th grader had to learn, was almost a copy of the US constitution with some editing.
The thing is that freedom, everything that prevented the government to do bad things to people were qualified in the meta dissertations. So in actual, everyday fact it wasn’t worth the paper it was printed on.
It would seem that the so called “Demokrats” are on the path to communist diktat.
There maybe the vast majority of the “Demokrats” that don’t see it that way, however there are a vast minority that knows exactly where its leading.
In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.
A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant
That’s because we, the proletariat, never learned our proper place. His actions are his way of teaching us to be obedient and enslaved serfs now, tomorrow, and forever.
L- SDA nation :), reading the relevant sections of the Constitution Acts 1867 to 1982 applies to exclusive provincial powers(section 92). A *Constitutional Right’s status, to pass infringement, requires the government to pass an Oakes Test- 1. Importance. 2. Method effective to the purpose. 3. Infringement to the minimum possible to achieve the purpose.
(note – It does requires the political will of the citizenry and elected leaders, loyally acknowledging their legitimacy emanates from the same.)
https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/Const/page-3.html#h-19
My favourites are Property Rights(13) and (Natural Resources) Wildlife management e.i. The Right to Hunt(and therefore the means to hunt) and Property Rights.
The process is as follows: *
43 An amendment to the Constitution of Canada in relation to any provision that applies to one or more, but not all, provinces, including
https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/Const/page-3.html#h-19
(a) any alteration to boundaries between provinces, and
(b) any amendment to any provision that relates to the use of the English or the French language within a province,
may be made by proclamation issued by the Governor General under the Great Seal of Canada only where so authorized by resolutions of the Senate and House of Commons and of the legislative assembly of each province to which the amendment applies.
45 Subject to section 41, the legislature of each province may exclusively make laws amending the constitution of the province.
——————————————————————————————————————————
L – Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women; when it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it; no constitution, no law, no court can even do much to help it. While it lies there it needs no constitution, no law, no courts to save it.”
~ Judge Learned Hand
Maverick Party. Do it.
Oh the joy of living in a lawless society.
Or as with Can Ahh Duhh,we have so many laws that none shall ever know them.
Which amounts to none at all.
This Dread Covid Theatre is glorious.
All the masks are off.
The Righteous ,sanctimonious delusions of Canadian Citizens have all been stripped away.
You have no rights.
You have no freedoms.
There is no “Charter”.
And we are without Justice.
Forward!
And “As for that “FREE” healthcare administered to you by our dear servants..Do you still cling to that Huge Lie as well?
I’ll say it again; when does the Rest of Canada hold a referendum on whether or not Quebec is allowed to stay?
Grok I like that idea.
Let them go. As now non Canadians half the civil whores in Ottawa would be left out of the equation. Possibly as a result the rest of us stand a better chance in federal elections and hires. Think of the dollar$ we could save in bilingual services, hire English only pencil pushers, get rid of all bilingual forms and paperwork. On the surface of it I’m good with that.
There is also the benefit of our beloved Corpse saving a pile by dropping francophone service not that their English format would benefit in ratings…. boohoo.
bverwey
Maybe if Kenney gets his canadian brownshirts to arrest another pastor Trudeau will let him amend the constitution too.
I wish Quebec all the success in this endeavor.
… not sarcasm.
Normally, I would agree if it meant that the parasites were one iota closer to getting off of us. But it doesn’t. It’s just another way to let them have their cake and eat it to.
That anyone should tolerate such unmitigated bull$hit means that this pathetic excuse for a country is far beyond redemption.
Let us depart and create a New Dominion; Freedom, Equality, The rule of law. Hateful words to the average north of the 49th moron
Clearly I think this will lead to an accelerated breakup of Canada.
If any region can simply re-write a section they disagree with, or decree themselves special arrangements, it’s open season on the piece of crap constitution of Old Canada.
This is why I wish Quebec all the success with this endeavor.
Don’t get me wrong. I definitely appreciated your sound reasoning and sentiment. In that regard I most certainly wish them God’s Speed!
I agree completely, as it will make Trudeau #1’s “Constitution” invalid and restore provincial powers, thus paving the way for a complete break-up, if any one has the guts to do it (no one on the horizon). It would be so completely perfect for Trudeau #2 to preside over the complete and utter trashing of his dad’s legacy legislation. Pay back in spades! I personally hope that our provincial parliaments start to manage locally.
King Charles, in time, will not care, as some of his family are as problematic as his uncle. He will have to stick to knitting for relevance, presiding over the further disintegration of the so-called Commonwealth. Australians may be the first to leave. They actually do have some real men left down there, and Alberta has some good truckers. We wimpies might be the last, though …
No William. Maverik is not the answer.
They are “federalists”.
ALL of Maverik’s blood sweat and treasure needs to be directed at Kenny.
That’s the only path to resolution.
We can not deny the truth that our history shows us.
The thing about Maverick and their Policy is to replace the traitorous CPC and cause Mayhem.
That is their stated purpose.
May as well vote Maverick and help accelerate the break up. While here in Alberta we work on getting our Independence.
Maverick will work on speaking with one voice for all the west once they get enough MP’s elected.
They intend, to act as the BQ does in Quebec cause MAYHEM and oppose what the west does not want and allow what the west wants.
Yes, a federal separatist party is a complete oxymoron (and ultimately becomes a pure conflict of interest). Maverick (what bone-head changed a perfectly good brand?) is a distraction and will diffuse the energy, talent and resources that should all be directed provincially where they will be desperately needed. Separation can only be pursued at the Provincial level… anyone heading east will wind up being otta-washed (anyone remember “Reform”?).
FYI, your pages will go unanswered. For anyone who has not figured it out yet, Scott Moe and the Saskatchewan Party do not want lockdowns to end, they don’t want pipelines, and they don’t want to actually fight Ottawa in any way.
“we are going to same place as all the other political parties, just slower! vote for us”
Fool me 35 times of less, shame on you. Fool me more than 35,000,000 times, shame on me. We have “conservative” in our name! We have “Saskatchewan” in our name! Vote for us.
“The thing about Maverick and their Policy is to replace the traitorous CPC and cause Mayhem.”
You couldn’t be more wrong. In Ontario and Quebec there will only be glee.
The “Concept” of a serious free and independent western Canadian political movement will be the only thing that will put fear and trepidation in the hearts of federalists no matter their station. Even if they hold the highest office in the western provinces!
Do you really think that Ontario would not be in favor of Western Separation, we don t want to inherit the responsibility of financing Quebecs wet dream social programs. So if you guys pull the pin on flooding dollars into a Province that hates you and thinks that you are morons for mailing them checks every month, do you really think that any other Province is going to willingly sign on to take over those ” child support ” payments? I hope that you guys are successful in dumping Quebecs legislated dependence on your Provinces bank account. However no other Province in the country is going to bail these leeches and their never ending reliance on other jurisdictions to pay for their social programs. The only real solution is to say good bye Quebec you are now on your own, like you have always preached that you wanted.
This is EXCELLENT.
Trudeau has opened a can of worms.
Kenney has promised a referendum on Equalization. We can now vote to remove Alberta from this insidious program.
Assume two things… 1. Kenney follows through on his referendum promise (this is the biggest danger: a flaky Kenney backing down), and 2. Alberta votes to remove itself from Equalization.
Trudeau would then have NO excuse to refuse the results of such a referendum and, if he tried, Alberta would have a huge hammer to use at the Supreme Court.
If any of these things are refused by Trudeau or his Supreme Court then the Mavericks will become immensely popular and powerful. This issue may very well be seen by historians as the catalyzing moment when Western Separatism became mainstream.
“Equalization”…is entrenched in our Canadian constitution!
Let that sink in for a moment.
Alberta can not “vote” itself out of it.
It takes an “amendment” to the constitution, to change anything…anything about it.
Therefore, and even if Justin wanted to, he is only one vote at the constitutional bargaining table.
Kenny was just flapping his gums when he made such a promise…to appease the base.
And where exactly Chris, would Maverik MP’s be so powerful?
And how could they exercise that power?
Quebec cannot unilaterally change the Constitution. But THEY ARE doing just that.
Right now.
With Trudeau’s blessing.
Trudeau is creating a legal precedent that can be used by an aggressive Alberta to eject itself out of a clearly unfair Equalization program (any attempt by Central Canada to thwart Alberta will cause an uprising and national unity crisis).
The Maverick Party exercises power simply by getting elected to Parliament. Forty or fifty Maverick MPs from Alberta, Saskatchewan, rural Manitoba, and the BC Peace Region will have a “balance of power” situation in Parliament and their mere existence will trigger a national unity crisis that cannot be ignored by Central Canada.
I am sure that some of the rationalization behind Maverik thinking (like with Reform) is really the fear of Kenny’s liberal lite party losing seats to an upstart separatist party and the inevitable splitting of the vote.
Yes it would….like a laser beam through horse shit!
However a sincere “separatist” movement I am convinced will see support come from both the left and the right because both understand theft.
Remember, if your old enough….Peter Lougheed (PC) and Alan Blakey (NDP) won election after election from their respective provinces asking for “mandates”…to fight Ottawa!
And then they both sold the west down the river with an impossibility high bar of an amending formula and the elimination of property rights.
“They intend, to act as the BQ does in Quebec cause MAYHEM and oppose what the west does not want and allow what the west wants.”
Here Watcher you are comparing apples with oranges.
The BQ finds itself among friends and has caused little in the way of mayhem.
Maverik will not. None.
Just curious;”The BQ finds itself among friends and has caused little in the way of mayhem.”
So bankrupting the confederacy for regional profit is not mayhem?
The Bloc and the fools who have enabled them have broken Can Ahh Duh beyond repair.
Enabled the Liberal Parasites to loot us for damn near 60 years and dissolved all the bonds that held east and west in common..But little in the way of mayhem?
Operating as legal pirates against Newfoundland and Labrador,raping them over the Hydro deals has been “little in the way of mayhem?”
Seems to me if we had booted the separatists out during the first Idiot Trudeau’s prance through power,we might had still had a country today.
Seems fitting it blows up during the chaotic reign of his presumed spawn.
Still is amazing how much Justine looks like his biological donor.
Don’t think that’s the kind of “mayhem” Watcher was implying.
And to suggest so is to suggest a Maverick bunch would and should practice the same.
It’s actually true… sorta
A province can change the constitution with the agreement of the federal government with no input from any other provinces as long as it only concerns matters of that province.