31 Replies to “The Sound Of Settled Science”

  1. Canadians should know better now that all these global warming prophet’s have failed and actually seems a little cooler of late.
    This bullshit is a total disservice to real science evidence that is not being reported, recorded and suppressed.

    Never recorded a single drop of water lost in space and yet have the massive amounts of evidence that shows our scared planet surfaces by meteors and asteroids.
    More water in the past, dissipates the shock waves.

    1. One of my most coolest science models is to change our orbital year. If I line it up directly with the Sun’s rotation, then a Earth orbital is 69 1/2 days instead of the current 365 caught in our Sun’s orbital exhausted gases.

      But hey, this is the research our politicians don’t want us to explore.

  2. Ah yes…the sweet taste of “I told ya so”. Been a close follower of Carlson and Hancock for more than just a few years. Initially I was a curious observer which slowly evolved into “Hey, I think these guys might be onto something”.Good on both of them.
    Hope to live long enough to see Brian Forester get the credit he deserves.

    1. Same here burton. The detail Hancock goes into re: precession and similarities of ancient cultures worldwide is pretty thorough.

      I recall when I was a schoolkid being mocked in Social Studies class for arguing against the narrative that stone age egyptians built the pyramids (I had just read von Daniken’s Chariots of the Gods.). Since then have been an avid follower of Bouval, Schoch, West, Carlson and Hancock. Many years later I felt a little vindicated by Hancock’s Fingerprints book. America Before is another eye opener.

      Intriguing research….

  3. that the climate on mars has the exact same cycle as earth should render a clue . isostatic rebound is much higher than sealevel rise, ive seen the beaches on benches in the arctic and in Drakes passage

    1. Facts know to us geologists for many decades, but practically unknown among the public…

      Large portions of what we call central North America have been covered by shallow seas (think Mediterranean) for significant portions of geologic history (I’m talking dozens of millions of years). Imagine a North American continent without mountains in the west (because those are all relatively recent, young features (less than 200-million years old)). Also, imagine a North American continent where the Gulf of Mexico and the Arctic Ocean are connected together, flooding over Texas, OK, Kansas, Nebraska, the Dakotas, Canada’s Prairie Provinces, and NWT’s Mackenzie Valley.

      The reality is that climate naturally changes over time, and quite drastically. We could fix “man-made global warming” tomorrow and that will not prevent the next ice-age from occurring (we currently have direct evidence of the four (4) most recent ice-ages that have occured in the past quarter-million years. We believe that there have been dozens to hundreds of separate ice ages in Earth history, each with its own associated 50-200 meter sea-level fall and rise.)

      Climate-change activists wishfully think that once they “solve” the “climate-crisis” the Earth will permanently go back to 17th-century climate conditions and humans can live happily ever after. They conveniently ignore wobbles in the rotational axis, sun-spot activity, magnetic pole reversals, asteroid impacts, mega-volcano eruptions, and other big events that can and do far more to Earth’s climate than any amount of coal burning could.

  5. Imagine the shrieking & poo flinging that would be coming from Gang Green,if that was happening today.
    The willful ignorance of past climate cycles is a mark of pride,distinguishing the hierarchy of the Cult of Calamitous Climate.
    So sick of these posers,I demand we restore the “Perfect Climate” I want the Laurentide Ice Sheet back..Muh Climate Change.

  6. I forget why the last ice age started, I also forget why it stopped.

    But if I did want to find out I would look to pre 1990’s literature for clues.

    Communists hijacked the green movement after the collapse of the Soviet Union rendering all their pronouncements suspect. I think a writer could tell a good story about that.

  7. 60 feet?
    I have seen for my self fish fossils at 7500 feet in the Rockies and have seen in Saskatchewan fossils of poplar tree leaves in rocks, the size of a rhubarb leafs, exposed along a river after spring erosion.
    Explanation anyone?

    1. Our scientists NEVER include more water.
      All those unsolved questions of moving crap long distance is far easier and solvable.
      Even “Stone Henge” can be described as architectural footings when adding water and how to move the stones their.

    2. The summit of Mt Everest is marine limestone, full of seashell fossils from when it was still on the ocean floor—before the subcontinent slid (slammed) into Asia, creating the Himalayas.

      Everest continues its rise, growing a tiny bit each year. I suspect the fossils you see at 7,500 feet may have been lofted there through similar mechanisms—but one should always keep an open/skeptical mind.

    3. I can explain it … the mountains where you saw fossils used to be beneath the sea. Tectonic plates collide and push the land and the sea bottom up and up until they form mountains. That is the case with the coastal range and the Rockies. Much earlier on that is what happened in the Alleghenies, Smokies and all others on the Eastern regions.

      The western province of Canada extending down through the USA used to be the bottom of a warm shallow ocean, for millions of years … all the fossil mass indicate how all that oil (carbon decay) go there. The coast was the edge of a plate so up went the mountains and land mass of the prairies and the warm ocean drained off into the Pacific.

    4. Mountain-building eras, what we geologists call “orogenic events.” When tectonic plates collide head-on, like say the Pacific Plate and North American Plate about 150-million years ago, or the Asian & Indian Plates today, the then-existing flat-lying sedimentary rock on the low plains or ocean floor (with lots of fossils) gets crunched up, folded, and/or thrusted up over other existing sedimentary layers, eventually growing into mountains. Go to Banff, Alberta and hike to the top of Rundle Mountain and you’ll find the Palliser Formation, full of abundant fossils of coral and other coral-like reef building animals and many other marine animal fossils.

      Saskatchewan (plus all the Prairies, plus the Central Plains of the US) has been covered by shallow oceans or seas for large amounts of its geologic history (many dozens of million years). Periodically, the Gulf of Mexico and the Arctic Ocean will meet in the middle and flood over the central plains of North America for tens-of-millions of years at a time. You can see this in the widespread Limestone and Dolomite layers that have been deposited over great stretches of the North American continent.

  8. There have been 4 major glaciations in the last 450,000 years with each one averaging around 100,000 years. It is the interglacial periods that are the short lived anomalies in terms of duration (10 to 15000 years). Unless something major has happened to change this pattern, our current interglacial period is getting long in the tooth. It would be a shame to leave all that oil in the ground before its covered with a couple kilometers of ice for another 10,000 centuries. CAGW might be our only hope of saving Canada.

  9. This is not the smoking gun that some might imagine — while I find climate change to be an overhyped alarmist prospect, the changes in sea level at the end of the last glacial era conform to Milankovitch theory about glacial cycles and are not directly comparable to the current situation which nobody argues to be due to Milankovitch drivers anyway. The actual question is, can human greenhouse gas production be a strong enough factor to change the essential balance that we would otherwise be expecting in this slow (very slow) decline of what has already come and gone, the post-glacial optimum? The answer to this is not that apparent yet. Alarmists say it is settled science and the polar ice caps are about to go. Realists say hang on, the data say that changes are much less dramatic and if it’s only arctic sea ice that we lose, it won’t be that big a shift for sea levels.

    For those not up to speed, Milankovitch factors were changing rapidly towards positive northern hemisphere temperatures in the millennia between 15 and 7 thousand years BCE, reached a maximum around 3000 BCE, and have been oscillating in a slightly downward direction since then. They are predicted to continue a very slow decline back towards glacial indicators over 20-40 thousand years. Regardless of the outcomes of this greenhouse gas issue, the human race basically caught some good luck here and avoided the much faster reload that took place between the second last glaciation and the more recent one (the one people colloquially call the Ice Age although it was maybe more complex than just one vast glaciation, and to be technical we are still in the dying stages of the previous glacial maximum). At some point we must reach equilibrium and start moving back towards the next glacial, unless of course we have loaded the atmosphere with sufficient greenhouse gas to prevent another one. And I would ask any activist to explain to me, what’s the down side of avoiding another maximum glacial episode? There is no down side, that would be ideal.

    1. Right on! A warm planet is a happy planet. A warm Canada is a happy Canada.

  10. Until we remove the Isthmus of Panama, thereby interrupting the flow of water from current flows contained within the Pacific and Atlantic Oceans, then remove the Rockies (and other mountain ranges) to small hill size to allow better airflow, I figure humans had better get used to things as they are for the near term. Like for the next 500 million years, or so. By then Kalifornication will either locate somewhere off the coast of Northern BC, or disappear beneath Alaska and Calgary will be piled higher than it is today. China will be joined at the hip to Japan. Sparks will fly. By then humans as we know them will be moot, probably nuclear blasted, or laboratory, bug war eradicated because someone let their megalomania get out of hand. Seriously. Taxing you on Globble Warmenting today, will be like sacrificing virgins to assuage an angry volcano god. Save your money.
    The Ants will rule, or cockroaches. Personally I’m rooting for the Ants.

  11. The next big question is to work out what triggered the ice melt

    Ha! Await for some convoluted reasoning that will either blame mankind then or provide a moralistic warning to our sinful carbon ways now.. Mind you, 60 feet in 500 years is 1.44 inches per year. Much more than now. Now, could this have been part pof a larger natural fluctuation – we have seen sea levels rise 300-600 foot since the last ice-age. I firmly believe this is the source of all the flood mysteries around. Also, it is clearly indicated in all attempts to determine this, that the rate of rise of the sea level has not changed in thousands of year. This is my favoritec chart, sorry the key is missing but it indicates Pulse 1A; I use it to show that there’s is nothing special abouit the current sea level annual change. It’s been going on for 8 thousand years, roughly the time of recorded civilization, and hte first crops were found from 14k years ago. I expect domestication of animals came before that with nomds and their herds moving from grassland to grassland During that period, 14k -to 7k BP, apparently the Sahara deert dried out.

    http://rabbithole2.com/presentation/images2/ice_core/Sea-chart.jpg

    Interestingly when I googled for this, I got lots of NOAA & NASA links to the trrible modern day sea rise, but when I ued Duckduckgo, I got what I was looking for.

    My bet: Mammoth Farts.

  12. I guess this is the SDA entry in which Kate finally discovers (and then immediately misunderstands the relevance of) the existence of MWP-1A, an event so familiar to actual experts in this area that it has its own 15-year old Wikipedia page.

    Better late then never, I suppose.

    1. Bwahahaha! You are actually contending that the Medieval Warm Period proves Global Warming Theory? That same Medieval Warming Period that arch-Warmunist Michael Mann spent years of his life trying to erase from the world climate record?

      This one ought to be good for a laugh.

    2. Please explain to your climate-alarmist friends that in 500 to 1,000 years Micronesia, the Maldives, New Orleans, and Venice will only exist as scuba-diving attractions, even if humans had never emitted any kind of gas ever.

      Please also explain to your friends that human civilizations existed on the Bering Plains (what we call the Bering Sea today), the plains that connected Holland with Britain (now the North Sea), the Salish Plains (now the various water bodies that separate Vancouver Island from North America), and many other spots around the globe that have repeatedly flooded and dried, and will continue to do so.

      1. When you build on sand, it unfortunately fails.

        Our planet has a weight distribution balance problem being an orb shape.
        If you add water to history, our orb is fine as weight distribution is balanced by water.
        Unfortunately, as water leaves by time, our planets rotation is out of balance,

        1. Oh, someone has just heard of the theory of the absence of water on Mars. I’ve learned about hammers; Look! A nail!

          1. Oh media monopoly…
            Look at the pretty bird.
            Can you say wabbit…
            2+2=5 as nobody is wrong in math.
            And mathematics is racist.
            Asinine media shit.
            I try to be far more accurate in my information.

      2. And don’t forget the Dorset people’s huts on beaches in the North of Greenland. They didn’t have diesel snowmobiles.

      3. Well, actually the coral islands and atolls will still be here with us then, that’s just the point about them, adjust to see level variation.

    3. Your CO2 Blarney Science, Randall, is just another bogeyman to terrorise the population. What temperature do you want the planet to be and where will you stick the thermometer? Because I have a very good suggestion, to avoid solar variability, of course.

      Have you read Gulliver’s Travels?

  13. Another unexplained and unexplored area of science is crystallization….sand.
    Our planets fine crystallization is from fracturing under high pressure of volcanic rock.
    The less pressure and rock crystallization is very much more dense and larger.
    Fine crystallization is under tremendous weight and cold fracturing much smaller crystals.
    Fossils also are from a history of far more water as well.

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