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no Canaduh?
More revealing, no China. Not just on the charts but nowhere in the article is China mentioned.
Are people still talking about the average flu season?
The planned overthrow and assassination of President Trump will have only one advantage. You won’t hear another word about Wuhan flu.
Santayana Ghost: EXACTLY
The Czech Republic did a little experiment in allowing sporting events and concerts until about a week ago, the country had just about zero restrictions.
Strangely, I don’t see Sweden on the list. You know, no lockdowns at all Sweden?
Oh, I forgot. They’re all dead. My bad (/sarc)
Sweden isn’t having sporting events.
https://kfgo.com/2020/10/08/sweden-pauses-plan-to-allow-bigger-sports-crowds-as-infections-rise/
Test result positive case does not equal sick person. Can’t say it enough.
I read today’s CTV crap article on Alberta.
https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/alberta-reports-record-427-new-covid-19-infections-active-cases-now-exceed-3-500-1.5156382
“As cases rise and hospital beds fill up in the capital region, Alberta Health Services has decided to postpone non-urgent surgeries to ease the strain on frontline workers.”
Except the total number of hospitalized covid patients went down by 1 from 113 to 112. But the media doesn’t tell you that. You have to read yesterday’s article and today’s and figure it out yourself. So they are postponing surgeries but the numbers are not what they say they are. Liars.
Exactly. In my relatively rural district
in Ontario we’re up to 41 cases overall (since March shutdown) but only 2 people still have the virus. No deaths and only one person required a hospital stay.
But the media statements just keep noting the higher # thus keeping the wing nuts frightened.
I’m sure Donnie the Dumbass Iveson will be only too glad to use that as an excuse for further screwing up Edmonton. (“Hello, Statistics R Us…..?”)
Yup. If COVID deaths increase by 33% they’ll catch annual automobile accidents in Alberta. If they increase by about 90% they’ll match suicides. Except wtf are the lockdowns doing to the suicide rate in Alberta? I can’t find any data.
If there’s proof that the lockdowns will kill more of us than the disease, can we work and play outside again?
Normalizing cases to population turns a wild-ass meaningless number into a somewhat less deceptive meaningless number. But “cases”, even per capita, are still meaningless and still deceptive – they’re positive tests and nothing more. The most useful stat is death rates per capita, and even that is subject to each country’s reporting conventions (in the extreme case, the SARS-CoV2 positive people that die in a motorcycle accident but are counted as having “died with” Wu Flu).
If they want fewer “cases”, they can do fewer tests. Problem solved. That may sound flippant, but it’s the reality now.
Here is some horse sense on the whole thing:
https://www.williamofockham.com/2020/09/20/having-2020-hindsight/
And Matt Briggs is always worth reading on anything to do with numbers, but particularly on Winnie the Flu:
https://wmbriggs.com/post/33026/
i ask folks , if you test more does the covid death rate go up ? no it doesnt , it goes down, the numerator is the same. the denominator is higher . math is hard for a graphic artist .
Useless stat.
Only the 23rd worst country In “Daily Covid19 cases per Capita”
But on that list, it is the 3rd worst country in Deaths per Capita.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/does-america-have-covid-problem-or-obesity-problem
I am not any kind of COVID denier like a lot of you people, but I think ZeroHedge has a point here.
tim in vermont, I can’t speak for other SDA commenters but I am not a COVID denier and, from what I’ve read, I don’t think most SDAers are as well.
My problem is with how our governments and public health officials have bollocksed this from the beginning and continue to keep digging the hole.
The lack of leadership and political will is doing more harm than the actual Wu Flu.
We came back to Canada early from Central America in mid March. Nothing in the process of returning gave me any confidence that those in charge had any clue on how to deal with this effectively.
Months later, when we see hardly any otherwise healthy people seriously affected by the Wu Flu I have even less confidence that their approach is even close to what would be best overall for Canada.
Thanks Kate!
Sick of this crap. The daily death toll for all causes world wide has not increased because of the cov2 virus, time to get our heads out of our arses. 153,432 people die everyday world wide. approximately 730 people die everyday in Canada from all causes, how many are crying the blues because of those stats?
Measuring the severity by number of cases is totally irrelevant and purposefully misleading. Mortality rates are the true measure.
Death rates from seasonal flu and pneumonia in Canada from 2000-2018 ranged from 15.1 to 23 per 100,000 population, while Covid deaths are presently less than 1 per 100,000 pop. at .260
https://www.statista.com/statistics/434445/death-rate-for-influenza-and-pneumonia-in-canada/
http://www.covid-19canada.com/ (scroll way down for mortality rates)
It is a nothing burger as many say. A political ploy and we are so stupid we can’t see it, well, I can.
What I find kind of weird is that I don’t know of one single person in our area who has even had the virus much less died from it. Not one. Two of my kids were tested but the tests came back negative. We did have some friends in India living in a four generation household where the whole family got it. They were pretty miserable for a few days and Grandma ended up needing dexamathasone but they are all fine now. We also have a friend in Italy who has some pretty nasty things to say about the virus and she needed four weeks to recover but she was fighting cancer at the time and already sick.
Same here Justin…Not one of our Friends, Family or others that we know has contracted said “deadly” virus.
It’s a CASEDEMIC and it’s being perpetrated by the Media incessantly – All channels TV Radio All the time. Sick of it. I Refuse to wear a BS mask that our esteemed “DR. Nenshi Phd Virologist” decreed. I’m Exempt ya see…?? and if anyone should be TERRIFIED it’s guys like me, a 68 yr old 5 cardiac bypass survivor with bad knees.
Thing is, I believe in my immune system and work at keeping it at peak efficiency …TRANSLATION..?? I don’t SANITIZE every damned thing I touch.!
THAT is madness IMO, as it reduces immune system response and makes one even more susceptible. I wash my hands when I need to and that’s it….AND take my vitamins.
We are not aware of any friends or family who have contracted Wu Flu. We know two people who have been tested and they were negative.
steakman, is it even a CASEDEMIC? Positive tests are NOT cases and the accuracy of the tests is suspect. I, like you, take care of my immune system and wash my hands. I can count on one hand the number of times in my life I’ve had seasonal flu. I haven’t even had a common cold in a couple of years and my husband gets one every year.
Everybody here must by now understand that the terminally stupid control your lives and you are unwilling to remove them from that control. Please, I beg you all, prove me wrong, at least once a year.
steakman, yup, and I pick my nose as well 🙂
I have realized that people freely choose to live in as much fear as they want. Facts don’t matter, they want to be afraid. Have fun.
So True Kevin….sadly, Sooooo True.
The fear is so irrational. There are those who are convinced they will die if they contract Wu Flu.
Based on my own experience, the people I know who are okay with how the government is handling this have not been affected by the lockdowns. They still have their businesses, jobs, and pensions so they are all good with it. For those of us who no longer have our jobs and are approaching retirement, it’s a different story.
Yeah Kevin, but our freedoms don’t end where their fear begins!
Totally agree, a positive test is not a case. I have written Jason about this. I have the Alberta Health guidelines for defining a “case” I had to ask for it as it is not readily available. AHS says it is a case if there is a positive test. But because the PCR test with the number of cycles used finds virus fragments the test is too sensitive. So a positive test is simply a positive test and nothing more. If you have a blood test that finds “live virus” then you are infected.
The Lancet has a good article and there are many more out there.
The cases/whatever and all the other statistics produced here are just noise.
Bottom line the Wuhan Flu as a pandemic quality virus is a bust.
Where fore do you see;”Bring out your dead”?
And 6 months into this fiasco we are yet to see a recommended medical treatment.
We have been treated to all kinds of butt covering and mindless regulations for the sake of our “helpers” being seen to be doing something,followed by endless amounts of Policy Based Evidence Manufacturing to cover for the States incompetence.
Lying via statistics is so easy when you have an innumeric state educated population.
What is so amusing is the division by zero behind most of the State sanctioned prophesies of DOOM.
Covid 19,the Novel Corona virus for which we were to have no native immunity or resistance
Yet the more reliable testing is used the greater the Denominator becomes.
I suspect once the “Deaths by Covid” are properly screened,we will see it is weaker than the annual flu ..
Oh right can’t use the “Flu death Numbers” cause Public Health now admits they just make them up..
So we must trust the Covid Deaths Statistics..from the same people?
“Bottom line the Wuhan Flu as a pandemic quality virus is a bust.”
No, it’s a pandemic. But, pandemic simply means, wide spread. There is a pandemic of Kentucky blue grass, is also a factually correct statement.
Pandemic, epidemic, have nothing to do with severity.
From https://www.thefreedictionary.com/pandemic
1. Widespread; general.
2. Medicine Epidemic over a wide geographic area and affecting a large proportion of the population: pandemic influenza.
In late 1889, a new virus killed 2m people. It affected the old and men more than the young and women. It returned for a smaller 2nd wave in late 1890. Genomic evidence suggests it was OC43, a coronavirus that now causes common colds. Let’s learn from it.
https://twitter.com/mattwridley/status/1319188078364340225?s=20
Canada ? Around 60.
Almost every single developed northern hemisphere country is currently having cases go up.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Winter is already affecting the r0
Should the Puerto Rico numbers be separate from the US numbers? It is a territory.
I was thinking that would make the US go WAY up the list, then I realized that you wouldn’t add those numbers together.
China stats would be useless as the CCP lies!
Strange that Italy is not on the list as they had a massive problem..worst in Europe.
Smoke and mirrors Mr Leader, when you lie, um, er, I mean “when you are somewhat disingenuous” it’s hard to keep the facts straight. the truth is easy to remember, but when they lie so flippantly, they forget certain original details, like, um, Italy. It’s all about messing with us to keep us fearful and practicing citizen control. They want to see how much crap we’ll take when they push us around. Australia’s really having fun with it!