22 Replies to “It’s Probably Nothing”

  3. It was built to impress hacks from Western media who either don’t know any better or are themselves in Beijing’s pocket. What did anybody expect?

    Beijing’s real approach to “treatment” is well known outside China by all who care to know. Keep the crematoria running 24 hours a day.

  4. The WUWT article is excellent. The phrase “Diamond Princess lab experiment“ is the winner in the article.

    The fact the Brits are now going to evacuate their cruising nationals is telling. Wonder if we will bring our sickies back to Trenton? Is it blockaded yet?

  5. Every freaking one of our garbage media outlets – every single one – did the Chinese Communist Party’s bidding by unquestionably playing that drone video of that supposed hospital under construction for days on end. Who of them will play this clip? Not a single one.

  6. Thank you Kate! The WUWT article is the most informative discussion by far I’ve seen about the Wuhan virus. It’s the first time I’ve noticed a mention of lower transmissibility (Ro of 2) from those having a flu shot vs the general transmissibility of the virus (Ro of 3). Definitely “News You Can Use”.

    1. Martin,

      I hope you aren’t interpreting what he wrote as get a flu shot and have a lower transmissibility of Bat virus. That isn’t what he wrote. He was digressing to say that the R0 of flu is still a high number (2 vs less than 1) even with flu shots because all the reasons he wrote about in his first article about vaccines. What he should have written for clarity is that he thought the transmission was contact and inhalation. That makes it more like flu than cold in his estimation. Based on Flu and SARS R0’s he guesses Bat R0 of 3. He’s a bit off on that since its contact, droplet inhalation (sneeze cough) and now aerosol which makes it more like measles, or so I have read. And also plumbing but probably only creative plumbing – poop spray wheeeee. It would be wrong to talk about a SARS poop “super spreader”. Now I digress.

  7. just posted this at WUWT, thought I’d post it here too:
    4 segments of amino acids, found in lots of other viruses and organisms, but none of which are in any other corona virus member.
    Those 4 segments total 27 amino acids, coded by 81 DNA bases. The 4 segments match to HIV and specifically to two proteins involved in recognition and binding to a host cell.
    By random chance, the corona virus mutated 81times with the correct choice out of 4 bases, to correctly code these 27 amino acids (out of 20 possibilities) that match the specific portion of 2 proteins involved in finding and attaching to a cell to infect.

    But yeah, it came from bats in a meat market.

    1. re WUWT article and virus origin, I agree with you Pete, show me the math. In god we trust all others bring data. He has an unreferenced claim of a newly found civet origin 99% match in his first article. I found that bit of hand waving as meaningful as “99% of human DNA is the same as bonobos”. I’ve seen much more convincing actual technical articles about the 1 – 4 % of material that is different from recent wild animal samples yet remarkably similar to snippets from vastly different sources.

      I think he’s right with the R0. There’s a Yale paper to back that up but they differ greatly on how deadly. I think Wuhan will be a special death rate case for many reasons. Scary high rate of false negatives on the tests and sending people home policy for example. There is good news on the test kit front.

      Yale paper: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.02.12.20022434v1 I think the data on death rate isn’t trustworthy enough for conclusions yet.
      New test method and bad news about the coin toss accuracy of the current test plus Wuhan implications (and everywhere else). A doctor had tweeted about this a month ago. Good to see progress. https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/coronavirus-us-firm-develops-new-test-that-can-confirm-cases-in-30-minutes

      Here is a paper discussing potential long term kidney and testicle issues. It implies there may be long term issues with other organs. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.02.12.20022418v1.full.pdf

  8. Heh, video is fresh. This is the first time it has rained since the HVAC penetrations were made. (Wuhan 14 day consulted). I’ve been on that ride. The water volume of the entire roof area can find its way to improperly sealed penetrations, (even one) before it finds a drain literally raining more inside than out, or so it seems.
    This proves the old saying that Chinese are short on caulk. Pretty sure that’s a thing….

  9. Who was the soon-to-be organ donor that sneaked that out? Xi’s propaganda minister won’t be pleased about it.

    1. LMAO…line of the day…!
      Good one Shawn

      I’m not at all convinced this was – is Bat soup flu.
      That article was most interesting and am glad I read it, But I ‘m not totally sold yet. As to mortality rates…26% sounds a lot more like it. When ya got 49 Crematorians running 24/7 doing 1200 per day for how many days now…40-50.? 60,000+

      How many still to be discovered in boarded up quarantine centres and homes..??

      The ChiComm math just don’t add up to a steady unwavering 2.1%.

      1. “I’m not at all convinced this was – is Bat soup flu.”

        It is not, they did not just start eating bat soup in November. Whatever caused it is new.

        1. “I’m not at all convinced this was – is Bat soup flu.”

          It’s a good theory.
          Take Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (vCJD). Believed to be caused by eating beef products contaminated with central nervous system tissue, such as brain and spinal cord, from cattle infected with mad cow disease.
          It is well know that people ate beef steaks and beef hamburger before cows started coming down with mad cow disease. Yet the hypothesis for people getting Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease by eating beef products contaminated with central nervous system tissue, such as brain and spinal cord, from cattle infected with mad cow disease is still a good one.

          1. So the argument then becomes that there must have been something in the bat soup that wasn’t there before. What was it, is the billion dollar question?

  13. Leaks like this. In a project that was given every priority and is being watched by everyone including President Xi. The entire Chinese Communist Party/Government is panicking and spending billions to stop the virus. And they cannot even leep the rain out.

    But there is no possible way that this virus could have leaked out of the Wuhan Virus Institute Bio-Lab accidentally. No possible way that someone got sloppy and infected themselves. No possible way the infected material was improperly disposed of and infected the public, even though it happened three times in the past. No possible way that someone needing a few yuan misappropriated a few test animals and sold them to the now notorious Wuhan Wet Market.

    But someone in the Chinese Communist Party sure slammed the panic button hard in January. Why? I wonder who was Patient Zero? What was their job at the Wuhan Virus Institute?

  14. As I said on an earlier post last week, build as many shake’n bake 5 day hospitals from scratch as they want in the PRC, who are they gonna get to staff them, Doctors who they trained from scratch in 3 weeks?/

  15. Why would the even need to ‘build a hospital from Scratch?’ Don’t they have mobile emergency hospitals? Mobile Military Hospitals?

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