86 Replies to “Bottom Falls Out”

  1. Ipsos-Reid is one of the few polling companies I take seriously. Nic Nanos was rather a joke at noon today trying to put a smiley-face on Liberals chances this month.

  2. As long as Quebec, Vancouver area and Ontario continue to vote in tRUDEau and the LIEberals, the “no” vote against him will still loose. Our election results are based on two provinces, and the rest do not matter.

    It will be interesting to see what Western Canada does after this election.

    1. If the Liberals win, it will be because of Toronto, Montreal and Ottawa. It is not a provincial voting pattern in either Ontario or Quebec to support the Liberal party. As a proud resident of a small city in Ontario, I am getting a bit tired of being thrown into the same bag as Toronto by Westerners.

      1. “I am getting a bit tired of being thrown into the same bag as Toronto by Westerners.”

        Yep, same here.

      4. Westerners governed by eastern statists; sent their bill while sponging off our labours, vilifying and starving us. Just say no.

        It’s over, no debate to engage in. To be confirmed tomorrow night, like the french language “debate.”

        It will be about issues of no importance to Canadians but very useful for the collectivists to partition and divide us.

        All western provinces need to levy and collect their own provincial taxes for the exclusive benefit of their citizens.

        The milk cow refuses to be starved then led off to slaughter. Time for a stampede. We tried, it failed.

        I gave the eastern collectivists their chance to have a real debate about real issues; then I would have accepted the result.

        The fact that abortion, gay marriage and dual citizenship, plus giving two face blackface cabin boy a pass, says it all.

        It’s over. Time to reflect, regroup and re-energize and get the oblivious eastern parasitic class away from our treasuries.

        Everything every western premier does must be for the express goal of taxation only with representation; all else is OVER.

        Who would play poker in a game where on the players dictate what cards are dealt? Time to move to another table.

    2. The West will do nothing. We’ve become the equivalent of a battered spouse. We stick with the crappy situation we know rather than risk what might become if we get out.

    3. Western Canada will do as we always do, moan and bitch and carry on being good Canadian sheeple. To believe otherwise is to indulge in delusion. It ain’t healthy.

      1. Assuming history will unfold as before, with a second Trudeau term, or worse minority with Dippers and Greenies propping the Grits up, isn’t healthy or wise. I would expect better analysis from you than a static view of history and the future.

    4. You want save the country? One solution, a referendum to throw Quebec out… err I mean to separate … oh f*** it, to throw them out.. I am not saying it would solve all western grievances* but it would restore sanity and balance Ontario against the West. As for the Frenchies? They can become Venezuela of the north.

      *And don’t pretend that the caliphate of Calgary or Redmonton are any better than Moronto or Chicouver

  3. Trudeau has alienated the whole electorate. He’s corrupt and racist. The capitalists that he hasn’t bought hate him. The environmentalists hate him. The Indians hate him. The veterans hate him. If it wasn’t for fake polling he’d be in real trouble.

    1. Second that remark. All I have to do is look around The South Island to see the blitheful ignorance of voters, who are set to elect 4 Greenies, yet, the highways are full of gas powered cars, and the airport is very busy.
      We have a Virtue Signalling electorate that is more concerned about making token comments and gestures, but no intention to be burdened by their own political positions.
      Hypocrites!

      1. Idiot. Everyone knows that it’s someone other than oneself who needs to change their lifestyle you bigot.

    2. Turdhole the groping racist POS will be re-elected, count on it… Zer will be re-elected, primarily by a mob of immoral racist Pieces of shit, birds of a feather as it were. Although, why anyone other then a pensioned out bureaucrat or a pensioned out ex-politician would want the corrupt french colonial shithole known as Turdholeland to continue is anyones guess, denial perhaps, but more likely, ignorance. Peoplekind that vote for the racist, sexual assaulting, white supramacist POS don’t care what Blackie McTurdhole has done, whether in the past or in the present, no matter how vile, and they certainly don’t give a damn how Gerald (Heinrich Himmler) Butts rules over the country for the benefit of Globalist interests… Turdholeland is a One Party Post National State, more like a cult than a nation and the son of the little man that invented and imposed that cult of a nation can do as he pleases just like his Father. Countries without a free press are usually authoritarian and morally and ethically corrupt, Turdholeland is no exception.

    3. @Robert:
      I agree with your comment 100%. I was stunned that a recent Nanos poll had Turdeau pulling way ahead of Scheer. I hope that another commentator’s remark that Nanos is a joke is true.

  5. I wonder what the record low percentage of the vote has elected an MP in a riding … I could imagine some five-way battles looming in a few ridings, maybe somebody will get in with less than 30% of the vote. Nobody has really impressed very much so far, given that I am already locked in to voting Bernier unless he annexes the Sudetenland during the debate. I am not saying Bernier has not impressed, just haven’t seen much coverage of him so this will be interesting to see how the debate goes, but anyway, Jagmeet Singh has probably been doing a bit better than the pundits were expecting which is making the left side of the race very wide open. Not that he could win me over but just as a political analysis, he seems to have run a fairly solid campaign. May just sounds desperate to me, like “believe me on this climate thing, even if you don’t.” That’s not going to play well outside of Vancouver Island maybe. Trudeau can’t sink much lower as there are probably Liberals who would never switch below about 28%. Scheer has been lacklustre so far but no huge errors. I can’t fathom the Quebec portion at all but this new Bloc guy seems affable enough, why he’s in the English language debate is a mystery to me but whatever. I imagine he’s a raving leftist as why else would you want Quebec to leave, surely there’s no faction thinking they could go further right on their own?

    1. “… I am not saying Bernier has not impressed, just haven’t seen much coverage of him …”

      If Bernier was half as bad as the official government subsidized media make him out to be they’d be showing a lot of actual coverage of him speaking instead of just Antifa’s sturmabteilung protesting in the streets outside where ever he is.

    2. this new Bloc guy Can’t stop the flow of Islamist into Quebec but Max can.

      Je me Souviens

      I Remember

  6. I think the poll companies are still playing games with the polls. I don’t see any polling companies in Canada free of bias. They are either politically/financially connected to either the Conservatives or Liberals or they take in big dollars from government contracts.

    If I am correct then as the election date gets closer they’ll have to make the choice. 1) Remain credible by giving accurate weighting and results or 2) come up with reasons why their polling numbers were off. For the latter, I expect a low Liberal voter turn out excuse. Liberal vote support may not translate into actual votes. I suspect that Liberal voters may be less motivated to get out to vote Liberal than in 2015. Pot is legal. Trudeau has lost his star appeal with numerous scandals and embarrassing Canada on the international stage Some big Trudeau election promises were broken – electoral reform and a balanced budget.

    As a separatist, I still think the most favorable conditions for a successful referendum is a Liberal minority with virtually all of Alberta and Saskatchewan going CPC. Any Liberal coalition with NDP, Bloc or Green Party will result a full scale attack on the economy of Alberta (and Saskatchewan). For Albertans the choice will be to leave Canadian confederation or have their livelihoods and economy destroyed.

    2. I’ve been called twice by pollsters. I lied both times. Ha, ha, ha.

      But notice pollsters never tell you how many people they call who:
      a) don’t answer
      b) hang up without responding.

      They must have those numbers. Surely it affects the polling accuracy.

      In any event only one poll matters, the final one.

      1. “Hangups/no answers” have little effect on polling accuracy. The only difference is that polls reflect the preferences of the “type of people who answer pollster’s calls,” versus the preferences of “the general population population.” These two groups of people have become significantly different in recent decades with the advent of internet and cell phone technology.
        Lying to pollsters is relatively harmless fun. Political parties and their private pollsters use much more sofisticated data collection methods and larger sample sizes. They get much more acurate data than we plebes. Nanos, et al, train their interns by giving them the CTV Nightly Tracker tasks. He keeps his professionals working privately with the parties.

  7. I guess we’ll see on election day. I still think the Liberals will somehow pull a majority out of this mess, and I’m starting to get the sinking feeling we may get the worst possible outcome for Canada is about to come to fruition, a Liberal minority propped up by the NDP and worse, the Greens. Of course, this would be the best possible situation for those who favour Western Independence as remaining in Canada would be all but impossible for Alberta and Saskatchewan at that point.

    If anyone BUT Scheer was the CPC leader right now this wouldn’t be a conversation, it would’ve been all over the second the writ was dropped. One more thing though, I hear some in the media prattling on about Scheer’s dual citizenship, how come Lizzie May gets a free pass from the same people?

    1. Playing the dual citizenship card was odd for the Liberals, imo. Canada is full of immigrant families with dual citizenship and families with one foreign born parent. My family included – are my kids less Canadian because of a foreign born parent? A purity test? How’s it different than talking about “old stock Canadians”? Basically, the Liberal party and their media allies have told those families that this is something shameful and unCanadian. Has any journalist talked to such families to get their reaction to the Liberal’s dual citizenship insult? It was directed at Scheer but…

      1. Elizabeth May was born in the USA in Connecticut but that doesn’t seem to be an issue with the Trudeau fluffer media.

        1. *
          you are three times more likely to encounter
          justin trudeau in blackface in canada than face
          off with anyone with an ar15… but all the
          knucklehead lefties are still begging for a
          ban.

          figure that out.

          *

        2. One news article I read about that – CBC maybe? – said that May lost her US citizenship in the 70s. 78, I think. So she doesn’t seem to be a dual citizen any more anyway. Moot point in her case.

          2. You don’t loose your US citizenship by swearing a Canadian citizenship oath or becoming a Canadian MP as Liz May claims. She’s lying.

            There are thousands of naturalized Canadians who will validate this.

            As for MPs, we’ll Scheer is a good example, of being an MP, and not automatically loosing US citizenship.

            I’ve also known a number of dual Canadian-Americans who have served in the Canadian military. One decided to renounce his US citizenship. It was a bit of a chore, and took time but he was successful.

            So Lizzy is lying. But what else is new?

        3. Add to which, Jagmeet Singh is an Indian citizen by descent i.e., the same way Scheer is an American.

        4. Michael Ignatieff spent most of his professional life outside Canada and Stephan Dion was a dual citizen of Canada and France. Both were given a pass by the mediocracy and the Conservatives were criticized for bringing it up.

          That says it all and confirms this is fixed. Just watch the debate tonight with Scheer predetermined to not be good enough and unable to get past irrelevant and unimportant issues while not allowed to speak about real issues.

      2. “are my kids less Canadian because of a foreign born parent?”

        My father was born in the US. I thought discrimination by national origin was a really nasty racist thing. I guess that only applies to non-Liberals.

      3. This is a case of prior CPC criticisms about dual citizenship coming home to roost, I’m afraid (and example #2692 of why Scheer’s a g-d knob). The Conservatives didn’t hesitate to call Stephane Dion on his French citizenship while he was Liberal leader, and pounded Michael Ignatieff about the fact he’d lived in the States for so many years and he was only ‘just visiting’ Canada (then he promptly went back, proving the CPC was right about him all along), and I think they floated a criticism against M Jean while she was G-G (she renounced her French citizenship too).

        And Scheer never thought to renounce his American citizenship years ago? “Because nobody asked me about it?” Seriously? That’s the best he can come up with? What a freaking tool.

        1. Do you have any idea how hard it is to renounce US citizenship?

          If you try, the IRS will assume you’re doing it to evade paying tribute to Uncle Sam’s creditors. If your financial records from the last ten years aren’t in absolutely perfect order, they will be glad of the excuse to indict you for tax evasion. It’s a great thing to do if you want the CRA to confiscate all your assets and send the IRS a cheque—and expect you to be grateful you don’t get thrown into an American prison.

          Only the truly wealthy who can afford an army of tax lawyers can afford the luxury of renunciation—and most of those have already been granted effective exemptions from US income taxes as rewards for services rendered to globalist stooges in both major US political parties.

        2. Perhaps, IM, but if you read the substance and paid heed to the tone, the Liberals and their journalists were mainly criticizing the dual citizenship itself and not CPC hypocrisy. Besides, at this point, how could the Trudeau Liberals criticize hypocrisy? The tone and substance was about divided loyalties and being a lesser Canadian which was really weird considering Scheer has never lived in the USA as a child or adult. Weirder still from the crowd that considers being a global citizen the height of sophistication. Given the mob of skeletons in the Liberals closet and their journalists deliberate blindness to open that door, it certainly isn’t because they are offended by secretive behaviour.

          So if it isn’t hypocrisy or secrets that Liberals and their allies were attacking then the only rational conclusion is that it is the dual citizenship/foreign born parent issue that offends them. Unless the Liberals and their media allies are full of shit, of course, and just pursuing tribal, partisan politics. Regardless, how did immigrant families and families with foreign born parents interpret it? As a personal insult to them and their children is a distinct possibility

      4. It was ridiculous. Dion had dual citizenship and I believe Ignatieff also did. The key thing is that the PM be willing to give up the other citizenship. Dion was not willingly to. Scheer is. Mulcair also had dual. It really is a non-issue. Libs can’t find anything else- like raping an underage student ( just as an example, heh, heh.)

      5. I’m waiting for the first liberal that wants to throw this out. Then I can ask if phasing out dual citizenship is actually in Justin’s platform and when they where going to reveal that niggling little detail.

      1. And except for the handout provinces (Maritimes less NB, and Queerbec). They have given up on real jobs and live by gubmint largesse courtesy of Libranos.

  8. 25% of Canadians have been asleep for four years or the Liberals could run a complete fool for P.M. and they would vot … Oh wait!

  9. 25% of Canadian voters think Prinz Dummkopf deserves a second term. I guess that means that many of the remainder think he deserves at least a third one or maybe a fourth….

  10. so today at a political event I heard that the Turd has injunction to stop the mop and pail from publishing their scoop, which is that he had a sexual incident with a 17 old male

    1. *
      i’m sure it’s just a coincidence…

      “Nov 15, 2016 – Liberals to revamp ‘discriminatory’ age law for anal intercourse …
      consent for sexual activity is 16 but the Criminal Code prohibits anal intercourse …
      is guilty of an indictable offence and could be imprisoned for up to 10 years.”

      *

      1. Give Kate a break. She puts her real name on this blog enterprise and can be sued to the Stone-Age by a malevolent Liberal Party and it’s media acolytes. Us anonymous, heathen commenters have a freedom that she can only dream of.

        1. Not arguing MY scrub, just the fact that nme’s comment is as potentially damaging.

          MYOB! Are you a hall monitor?

  11. Just a general comment – anyone in a position of authority who has relations with a minor commits sexual assault, essentially statutory rape, for which imprisonment is the usual penalty. A school administrator who hides such an offense has also committed a crime. But this is all speculation.

  12. My family and I live in Ottawa central, in Catherine McKenna’s ward. My neighbours are frightened of me. not nearly as I’m frightened of them. To win this riding it seems, that you pretty much need to be left of Castro. I’m wondering if my best chance,is to vote out boy wonder and Barb, is to vote NDP. I did this once before and woke up to a four year headache called Bob. oh my!
    ,

    1. Strategic voting. Yes, it can backfire, as you noted. Plus, not sure that voting NDP is any better, if current trends continue, the effin commies could prop up the Liberals in a treacherous far left co-operative

      Check 338canada.com for your riding and polling numbers, for what its worth.

      In my Green area, its been an NDP knob that has been MP, but looks like a Green might pull it out instead. If it was real close, was considering an actual Green strategic vote (as loathsome as they are), to minimize the NDP MPs, but, their lead looks comfortable, the CPC is a non-factor in socialist Victoria.

      My vote will be a spoiled ballot this year

    2. How many get paid by the federal, provincial or municipal government single taxpayer system.

      One taxpayer there should only be one level of government no?

      1. One level of government?

        Are you the same Angel who supports Max?

        I thought Max and PPC supported provincial rights. Now you want the Feds taking over roads, sewers, municipal water supplies.

        1. Eh a guy can dream it’s not taxed yet…

          Max is the only leader promising a smaller federal government

          As for me we have way to many governmental employees

          Big government bad

      2. “One taxpayer there should only be one level of government no?”

        Then Quebec’s roads would go from being the worst to being the best and Alberta would have cow trails.

    3. Vote for whoever in your riding has the best chance of getting rid of McKenna. Folks in your riding are truly brain dead. Seems to be a common problem in Ottawa. I live in Karen McKrimmon’s riding. She has done nothing for us and I am hoping Justina McCaffrey will win.

  13. Canada can not be fixed by voting, the corruption is way too deep. The deck is stacked too many ways. Generations of sheep have been bred and unleashed on the country. Either it is dismantled by a Province going for UDI or it will self destruct anyway under the weight of the debt and corruption. Canada now has nothing to be proud of, endlessly preaching about Democracy and Rights around the world. But disgraceful and abusive of its own citizens at home. A Cesspool. Go UDI Alberta. Get off the Slave Ship Canada.

    1. Watcher: On.the.button. There is no hope; the oblivious east thinks the west will pay while being starved. Just say no.

      1. Norway, same population as Alberta, less oil. 1 Trillion in reserves. Alberta same population as Norway 3rd largest oil reserves in world, status broke. Alberta has financed the destruction of Canada and the creation of the Slave Ship Canada all for emotional ties to a defunct and corrupt country. Alberta would be worth more than Norway today without Canada. Alberta without Canada could be totally tax free state. Go UDI Alberta.

        1. Hmm… The Alberta Heritage Savings Trust Fund was a provincial initiative similar to the Norwegian fund. However, unlike Norway, Alberta chose to keep sticking its fingers in its own cookie jar.

          Albertans could have had well over $100 billion in their fund by now if they’d shown the same sense of purpose as Norwegians.

          But no – proving that Albertans are no more fiscally prudent than any other Canadians.

      1. Been up at my mountain lair, dealing with a rogue black bear for a week or more and working on my solar system. Thinking about what is important in life and missing my sweet woman.

          2. The sound of the elk bugling up here at 4000 ft. is priceless in my little valley. The local trapper wants the bear he has 5 kids to feed. He promised me some bear claws but would not negotiate on the skull. Wants my drunken rattlesnake hat band I made, maybe there is a market for rattlesnake hatbands. Ha Ha Ha.

  14. So why, as someone asked, isn’t Scheer or Bernier ahead by a billion points?

    All Andy or Max had to do to convince good Canadians that he wasn’t another Chinese shill and was actually on their side against the parasites from Bay Street to Beijing was to, well, actually be on their side, and then just be themselves. That’s all Donald Trump did. It worked perfectly.

    1. Don’t believe the polls they the powers that you hate control you if you do follow their polls.

  15. …and whats this I here ’bout PMDickSpank..?? – boffed a 17 yr old while being a teacher at Point Grey Academy…!! Apparently signing a non disclosure agreement and resigned because of it.

    That my friends, sure as hell sounds like STATUTORY RAPE to me.
    Comon Kinsella, lets see that report…
    It ABSOLUTELY must see the light of day.

    1. Kinsella is a practising lawyer who would lose his business and income if he did such a thing. We need to find a young idealist who can go back to school for another career, or a near-retired idealist with a well-hidden retirement fund.

  16. Was there no box to check for those of us who thought he shouldn’t have been elected in the first place?

  17. The ‘conservative’ parties should be going after the younger vote by running lots of ads and getting lots of soundbites for Facebook about how the next generation is going to get stuck paying for today’s deficits and how the size of those debts is going to prevent them from having all sorts of the things that we are borrowing to pay for now.

    How are they going to have free education and health care if interest rates go up 5 percentage points?
    Will the future governments have to impose user fees or impose massive cuts to services?
    How are they going to pay for all their climate change dreams when the interest on today’s deficits eats up half of the government’s revenue?

    The left has already started to create a schism between the younger and older generations with their climate change narratives: “How dare you!” etc.
    Start asking the younger generation how thrilled they are to be getting stuck with the bill from Trudeau’s tens of billions in debt.
    And why not throw some gasoline on the fire?
    Tell the younger folks that you are voting Liberal because you get the goodies now but won’t be around to have to pay the bills.
    They will get stuck paying for our luxurious lifestyles.

    1. Well I keep a good look on the PPC and we are picking up young voters for you need to remember that not 100% of the students in college and university are leftist it’s just the leftist control the narrative and as you all well know eventually there is a push back and I firmly believe that the crazed left will lose significantly come Oct 22 morning for I also believe that Alberta and BC will decide who gets into power this election…

  18. I have been poled twice. It was pick a number for the Party you would vote for. I picked a number that had no Party assigned to it. It figured out I wasn’t playing the second time it asked.

  19. Hello, I’m the leader of the Absolutely Crazy Party. I just wanted to register a complaint that all of our key policies are being stolen by the other parties. They need to stress that the policies they are stealing are Absolutely Crazy. Thanks for your time.

  20. The divide in Canada is along rural/urban lines; meridians have little to do with it. Show me a major Canadian city and I’ll show you a voter base that wants its arse wiped. And most of the rest of the Country can be counted on to support pink putzes like scheer-the-steer.

    Like the rest of western society Canada is going down the rabbit hole, and there’s a stinking great splash waiting at the end. That’s the real bottom falling out. So take care of you and yours as best you can.

    1. Same everywhere, USA, Britain, Europe, large cities are centres of leftism, rural and small towns tend to be conservative. Guess where all the grateful immigrants are gathering and how they’re voting or how the liberals and Democrats think they will vote once they are allowed? Why do you think they don’t want a wall or any restrictions at all? We’re already ****ed.

  21. I see a lot of idiotic comments on here by folks and I am just plain shaking my ol head. Never ever vote out of fear as it always backfires. Become an informed voter by reading all the party platforms, and then vote for the platform you believe in. That is how you are supposed to vote. Our country is lost if the majority of folks in Canada think the way the fools in the above comments think. Apparently there is no such thing as common sense anymore and that just scares the hell out of me.

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