If they have sensitive information on people who have power then obviously the temptation for extortion and blackmail would be overwhelming. Everyone knows this, of course. How many judges, CEOs, politicians, bureaucrats, law agency bosses have skeletons in their closet that makes them, and by default all of us, vulnerable? Our system relies on people with authority making fair and sound judgments based on laws and rules, not acting as puppets for people who can destroy their reputation. Much of our cultural and democratic stability depends on trust in our institutions. Destruction of that trust for personal gain should be dealt with harshly.
Therefore the penalties for extortion, blackmail and bribery of people in positions of power using such data should be massive – life imprisonment and confiscation of all assets. Increase the risk dramatically because a 100 million dollars here and there means nothing, it’s pocket change compared to the rewards.
No.
Righteous men have nothing to hide.
Information on corrupt and criminal public figures should be in the hands of law enforcement, so that those figures can be appropriately punished and replaced with good men able and willing to make fair and sound judgments based on laws and rules—not a corporation able to use information for purposes of corruption.
Nationalize Google, summarily dismiss top management and replace them with good, loyal Americans willing to hand over to state and local prosecutors any information of value in drawing up criminal indictments against Deep State collaborators. That done, locking the bastards up and throwing away the keys will be a matter of logistics. Destroy only the private information of obviously innocent men whose only crimes were loving God, America and Donald Trump.
I don’t care about the privacy of swamp-dwellers. They never gave a tinker’s damn about yours or mine. I want every dollar they stole, every child they betrayed and every secret they sold to the enemies of the nation accounted for to a candid world before they are sent off to whatever punishment their former tax- and debt-slaves consider a just reward for their crimes.
// Righteous men have nothing to hide.
Information on corrupt and criminal public figures should be in the hands of law enforcement, //
This is absurd. The right to privacy is basic in any acceptable society.
Data about you can tell interested parties things about you that you don’t even know yourself.
Secondly, your remark implies that criminality is to be decided BEFORE information goes to law enforcement.
By whom?
Thirdly you have biased your claim by yourself deciding who are criminal, [“deep state collaborators”]
completely agree on that dizzy.
‘nuthin ta hyyyyde’.
ya right.
give them time and they will dig up *something*.
aka “who watches the watchers” syndrome.
mr a cana fails to recognize the inherent severe temptation for all us flawed humahns to use said data
for unrelated but very nefarious purposes.
usually involving money.
lots of it. thereby ensuring the abuse continues indefinitely and unimpeded.
what a fcukin dunce.
If we do not have a right to privacy, neither do our slave drivers and tormentors.
Once they have shown some sign of acceptance that honest men have the right to privacy, and of being reformed men who are heartily remorseful for their own crimes, we can discuss restoring theirs.
break them up?
how about obliterate them?
nah, in a pure capitalist system, the boyz wit’ da moolah MAKE THE RULES.
and THAT rule is the one needs to be broken up.
L C B is correct. a fine example of THAT is the behaviour for decades of one j edgar, whose career included overseeing immense fbi resources applied to ‘getting the goods on’ and accumulating handy dandy dossiers on anyone above dog catcher.
for future reference.
another way ‘cops are tops’ eh !!!
Stop complaining, CRIMINALS! Our Dear Leader needs this valuable information in order to assign your Social Credit Score. And your complaining about the surveillance State has already crashed your Social Credit Score to levels that will have you removed from your jobs, and your taxes increased to offset your burden on The State.
Every single Democrap Candidate is in favor of American Social Credit scores. Remember how many times Google employees met with the Obama WH ? Yeah, once a week meetings.
And now that bastion of Free Enterprise, the monopolistic ICBC aka the Motor Vehicle Branch of British Columbia, wants to record who you think you might loan your car to. The naive reasoning is to better assess what the “risk” is to your car. But when your neighbor, who occasionally borrowed your pickup truck, then left town five years ago, commits a crime, you become guilty by association, and the evidence is all there, right above your signature. Sweet.
Such great ideas! Let’s nationalize Google!
Then after that nationalize oil companies so we can get good gas prices! We can call it Petro-Canada! Wait a minute…
Nobody worry; electing Trudeau or Obama was a one off thing, we are guaranteed to be safe from anything like that ever happening again. Even if it did happen, the “good” companies would remain safe from government overreach…
Or you could, you know, just not use Chrome.
I realize that soi-disant conservatives are technologically illiterate, but there are many other browsers that don’t send your information to Google. There’s about an 80% chance your computer came with one installed by default.
You really think that not using Chrome is going to keep your data out of the hands of Google?
Foolish foolish boy…
The young man who wrote the article seems unaware that his grandparents’ generation often lived in the same house for decades and had their names and phone number published annually in a phone book. They published birth announcements, obituaries, and wedding details in newspapers. It wasn’t “doxing”; it was daily life.
Talk about breaking up Google and Amazon, two companies which actually provide value to most families and many businesses. Leading edge tech and innovation to boot. Investment in the billions $ but heh lets have government take that over. What a bunch of BS!
At the same time this debate is being had there is no talk of breaking up the media conglomerates who have repeatedly lied and manipulated the public. The education system which is cont rolled by communists yet no revamp there!
The real reason these companies are being targeted is the size of their wallets. They have it and many want it. Call it for what it is!
“Investment in the billions $ but heh lets have government take that over.”
Some stupid A-holes invested $billions into Communist China. I’d like to see them lose those $billions. So what, bad faith investment.
I don’t want government to take the “Master’s of the Universe” over.
Fascism is when these jokers collude with government to the detriment of the rest of us. That’s known as the Deep State.
I want to see .gov enforce the already-in-existence anti-trust laws that these high-tech scumbags are breaking and break them up.
Everything that has ever been entered in any data base is available. You have a drivers licence, a health card, a credit card, I could go on but, well, the truth is difficult for far too many people.
“Righteous men have nothing to hide.” A lovely and naive sentiment. Wish it were true. Expressed by someone also likely accumulating social credit demerits by reading and commenting unapproved party line on a “naughty right wing sight”, or something.
If they have sensitive information on people who have power then obviously the temptation for extortion and blackmail would be overwhelming. Everyone knows this, of course. How many judges, CEOs, politicians, bureaucrats, law agency bosses have skeletons in their closet that makes them, and by default all of us, vulnerable? Our system relies on people with authority making fair and sound judgments based on laws and rules, not acting as puppets for people who can destroy their reputation. Much of our cultural and democratic stability depends on trust in our institutions. Destruction of that trust for personal gain should be dealt with harshly.
Therefore the penalties for extortion, blackmail and bribery of people in positions of power using such data should be massive – life imprisonment and confiscation of all assets. Increase the risk dramatically because a 100 million dollars here and there means nothing, it’s pocket change compared to the rewards.
No.
Righteous men have nothing to hide.
Information on corrupt and criminal public figures should be in the hands of law enforcement, so that those figures can be appropriately punished and replaced with good men able and willing to make fair and sound judgments based on laws and rules—not a corporation able to use information for purposes of corruption.
Nationalize Google, summarily dismiss top management and replace them with good, loyal Americans willing to hand over to state and local prosecutors any information of value in drawing up criminal indictments against Deep State collaborators. That done, locking the bastards up and throwing away the keys will be a matter of logistics. Destroy only the private information of obviously innocent men whose only crimes were loving God, America and Donald Trump.
I don’t care about the privacy of swamp-dwellers. They never gave a tinker’s damn about yours or mine. I want every dollar they stole, every child they betrayed and every secret they sold to the enemies of the nation accounted for to a candid world before they are sent off to whatever punishment their former tax- and debt-slaves consider a just reward for their crimes.
// Righteous men have nothing to hide.
Information on corrupt and criminal public figures should be in the hands of law enforcement, //
This is absurd. The right to privacy is basic in any acceptable society.
Data about you can tell interested parties things about you that you don’t even know yourself.
Secondly, your remark implies that criminality is to be decided BEFORE information goes to law enforcement.
By whom?
Thirdly you have biased your claim by yourself deciding who are criminal, [“deep state collaborators”]
https://twitter.com/shoshanazuboff
completely agree on that dizzy.
‘nuthin ta hyyyyde’.
ya right.
give them time and they will dig up *something*.
aka “who watches the watchers” syndrome.
mr a cana fails to recognize the inherent severe temptation for all us flawed humahns to use said data
for unrelated but very nefarious purposes.
usually involving money.
lots of it. thereby ensuring the abuse continues indefinitely and unimpeded.
what a fcukin dunce.
If we do not have a right to privacy, neither do our slave drivers and tormentors.
Once they have shown some sign of acceptance that honest men have the right to privacy, and of being reformed men who are heartily remorseful for their own crimes, we can discuss restoring theirs.
break them up?
how about obliterate them?
nah, in a pure capitalist system, the boyz wit’ da moolah MAKE THE RULES.
and THAT rule is the one needs to be broken up.
L C B is correct. a fine example of THAT is the behaviour for decades of one j edgar, whose career included overseeing immense fbi resources applied to ‘getting the goods on’ and accumulating handy dandy dossiers on anyone above dog catcher.
for future reference.
another way ‘cops are tops’ eh !!!
Stop complaining, CRIMINALS! Our Dear Leader needs this valuable information in order to assign your Social Credit Score. And your complaining about the surveillance State has already crashed your Social Credit Score to levels that will have you removed from your jobs, and your taxes increased to offset your burden on The State.
Every single Democrap Candidate is in favor of American Social Credit scores. Remember how many times Google employees met with the Obama WH ? Yeah, once a week meetings.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3554953/Google-staffers-meetings-White-House-staggering-427-times-course-Obama-presidency-averaging-week.html
And now that bastion of Free Enterprise, the monopolistic ICBC aka the Motor Vehicle Branch of British Columbia, wants to record who you think you might loan your car to. The naive reasoning is to better assess what the “risk” is to your car. But when your neighbor, who occasionally borrowed your pickup truck, then left town five years ago, commits a crime, you become guilty by association, and the evidence is all there, right above your signature. Sweet.
Such great ideas! Let’s nationalize Google!
Then after that nationalize oil companies so we can get good gas prices! We can call it Petro-Canada! Wait a minute…
Nobody worry; electing Trudeau or Obama was a one off thing, we are guaranteed to be safe from anything like that ever happening again. Even if it did happen, the “good” companies would remain safe from government overreach…
Or you could, you know, just not use Chrome.
I realize that soi-disant conservatives are technologically illiterate, but there are many other browsers that don’t send your information to Google. There’s about an 80% chance your computer came with one installed by default.
You really think that not using Chrome is going to keep your data out of the hands of Google?
Foolish foolish boy…
The young man who wrote the article seems unaware that his grandparents’ generation often lived in the same house for decades and had their names and phone number published annually in a phone book. They published birth announcements, obituaries, and wedding details in newspapers. It wasn’t “doxing”; it was daily life.
Talk about breaking up Google and Amazon, two companies which actually provide value to most families and many businesses. Leading edge tech and innovation to boot. Investment in the billions $ but heh lets have government take that over. What a bunch of BS!
At the same time this debate is being had there is no talk of breaking up the media conglomerates who have repeatedly lied and manipulated the public. The education system which is cont rolled by communists yet no revamp there!
The real reason these companies are being targeted is the size of their wallets. They have it and many want it. Call it for what it is!
“Investment in the billions $ but heh lets have government take that over.”
Some stupid A-holes invested $billions into Communist China. I’d like to see them lose those $billions. So what, bad faith investment.
I don’t want government to take the “Master’s of the Universe” over.
Fascism is when these jokers collude with government to the detriment of the rest of us. That’s known as the Deep State.
I want to see .gov enforce the already-in-existence anti-trust laws that these high-tech scumbags are breaking and break them up.
Everything that has ever been entered in any data base is available. You have a drivers licence, a health card, a credit card, I could go on but, well, the truth is difficult for far too many people.
“Righteous men have nothing to hide.” A lovely and naive sentiment. Wish it were true. Expressed by someone also likely accumulating social credit demerits by reading and commenting unapproved party line on a “naughty right wing sight”, or something.