Western Canada is experiencing a rising tide of resentment toward the rest of the country amidst political battles over pipelines, emissions and equalization payments, with a majority in Alberta and Saskatchewan now saying they get so little out of Confederation that they might as well leave.
That’s according to a massive new survey from the Environics Institute, which confirms a widespread impression that Western alienation has gotten worse since Justin Trudeau became Prime Minister. Add a persistent malaise in Atlantic Canada, and the survey depicts an uneasy Confederation on the heels of its 150th anniversary.
The poll, which asked more than 5,000 people about their attitudes toward the country between December and January, found a federation feeling more provincial. The proportion of Canadians who said their province or region is important to their sense of self rose from 69 per cent to 77 per cent in the past decade and a half, even as talk of Quebec separatism has cooled.
I have a habit of being a woman ahead of my time.
“The findings should serve as a wake-up call to Ottawa’s political elite….”
The globalist Liberals don’t need an ‘awakening’ over our increasingly fractured nation, they are already on their feet high-fiving each other over it.
Western alienation is not a bug in the federal Liberals’ policies, it’s a feature.
I wouldn’t say western alienation is a feature of the liberal’s policy, as that would imply that they cared about the west enough to pizz us off. They don’t.
They see the west as they see women; something to abuse, rape, domineer, and otherwise use to whatever ends they want. They couldn’t give a damn as to what we say or think.
I’d go as far as to say Trudeau is using women with his feminist shtick simply for votes from those who are silly enough to fall for it. It’s proving to be phony.
Has been so since 1905.
The Liberal Party of Canada has ALWAYS had a divide and conquer strategy when it comes to Alberta. I wonder if the economic boom going on in Ontario, has anything to do with the Federal government. Oh yeah, the LPOC as Federal government, stopped all the pipelines, and MURDERED the Alberta economy. The LPOC also has its base of power in good old Quebec. It is WELL PAST the time for a new country.
The big difference this time is that Alberta and Saskatchewan could separate from Canada and likely be more self sufficient without the rest of us. Quebec on the other hand would NEVER survive without the handouts from the rest of the country. The corporate welfare hand out from the federal govt. alone keeps that stone around our neck afloat. Maybe it is time for the rest of the country to re-evaluate if we really need Quebec with us the way the transfer payments are structured. I am sure we all can thank the great Pie’re for this mess. Just my 2 cents worth…..Steve O
I agree.
This poll also tells me Ontario is not far behind the West in its discontent.
Wouldn’t a western based government go a long way to alleviate alienation by jettisoning Laurentianesque elites?
I think the CBC is going to have a very difficult time propping up their boy blunder this time; but they will try very hard.
Because, like the Demarxist cousins they view their existence as that of the nation, along with their perks and parties.
People need to realize TV people who’s flagship show gets an .05 viewer rating are smarter than the rest of us.
And they say climate change taxaction and gender equality are the dominant issues facing our nation.
Not the utilization of our birthright bounty of natural resources, not the demographic challenges from aging boomers.
Not the productivity loss as more and more millennials, eschewing experience for finding out the hard way.
Not the massive drain on medical resources and pensions that has already begun to erode public finances.
No, everything is AOK, our debt to GDP is good to go; as long as growth doesn’t slow and recessions never happen.
Remember when Chretien tried that schtick, and they tried to ride that right up to the IMF debt wall.
And they had growth to rely on as boomers boomed. Same with PET and his $100b deficits ($2019). Not so now.
No worries, everything is OK, groped and persecuted women just see it differently. Voters know he’s wonderful.
The only things conservatives have to fear is conservatism itself, with our RINOesque, infinite capacity to auto-sabotage.
But then we’ll get to separate and everything will be wonderful. I keep forgetting that, no dislocations whatsoever.
No mention on the CBC or CTV at their downtown Toronto studios on the crisis of canola farmers out west, or Canadians held hostage in China. Must not upset the commies. But more coverage on how wonderful it is that New Zealand is turning into a muslim caliphate.
The west?
Where’s that?
I’m having this feeling about our “post national state” that Canada is not a real country anymore. Flood cities with liberal voting immigrants who do not adapt is a powerful weapon for Justine.
On the other hand Alberta, Saskatchewan & Manitoba should go their own way as a Republic. Churchill will be the transit port for shipping oil to market. No more transfer payments. Ontario will crumble, BC is lost to Asia, Quebec will once again become a poor state while the Maritimes are kaput.
Sounds delicious!
Yea…thats pretty much My Idea as well.
Ab, Sask, Mb, NWT & the Yukon. (I’d consider Rural BC…but the Lower Mainland & YVR island – I’d leave for the Big ONE)
3 potential Tide water Ports: Valdez (Supertanker Capable – open Yr round), Tuktoyuktuk via the Mckenzie River Valley and Churchill…
A Republic with a constitution based on the US Model replete with a bare minimum of the 1st & 2nd Amendments along with an IRON Clad garantee of Property Rights along with the inalienable right to DEFEND said property/persons. A country with ZERO Affiliation with the UN. We can and will defend ourselves.
Build it and they will come in Droves…and our New country would rock – big time.!!
Having lost my job/home in ’81 due to PM Dipshits daddy…Indepndance has been my goal.
Seeing the utter deviant garbage in Ottawa today…? we shoulda been independant yesterday…
Fully agreed. I’ve been to Tuk however there’d be challenges for an overland road from/to.
I am not 100% confident that secession would be w/o hurdles as many Albertans (not old stocks) voted NDP, especially the suspect city of Redmonton. If I’d be a foreign entity who truly hated Canada, Justin Trudeau is my man to destabilize the country.
And a Senate which apportions each province the exact same number of senators.
“””Add a persistent malaise in Atlantic Canada..”””
huh ? Are the pogey cheques bouncing or something ? The Maritimes are parasites too. They elect nothing but Liberals all the fucking time and suck off the federal teat almost as much as the Kee Beck Hers.
As a great Ontarian once said, time to end the Maritimer “gravy train”
Harper was right.
Yes, Harper was right, their reaction proved it. Liberals own the Maritimers, culture of dependence is a way of life forever, fish and dole are the seasons. Then we have Quebec, a province rich in resources, perpetually on the dole through Equalization.
Quebec is worse than what you describe. It is cancer that thinks of retarded ideas, adopts them, makes ROC pay for them through equalization payments and then infects other provinces with said retardation, “free” childcare, carbon taxes ect. If that cancerous province separated during the last referendum they would be Zimbabwe now and we would be the freest economy in the world. ROC should have a referendum and throw them out. Then mine the borders.
I noticed in the poll Quebecers think they are getting the same out of Confederation and they put in. Enough said.
Talking politics with a maritimer is one dimensional conversation, their only question is “What’s in it for me?”
“Which politician will give me the most in handouts?”
Ask them which party will do the best for Canada now and in the future and they look at you like a cow looks at a train.
Well Kenney has promised a scrap with TROC over Equalization. You know that part of the Fake Trudeau Constitution were he entrenched Communist Ideals with out the consent of the governed. Of course in all of Canada’s history not one time have the Taxpayers and Citizens been asked what they wanted. Everything has always been decided by an elite few in Ottawa. Alberta has become a Colony of Ottawa. All of this has happened because our Provincial Prime Ministers have been very weak and in many cases like Nuttley’s have worked hand in hand to screw the Province for the greater good of the Communists in Ottawa.
Ottawa then buys votes from the sleezeball Maritimes and Quebec.
It is not one man one equal vote there are built in adjustments in the formula, so that Quebec and the Maritimes always get paid off for their votes.
Kenney is no prize but he is head and shoulders over Nuttley.
Does Kenney have the balls to shut down Canada. Not likely. He has many old Commie PeeCee in his party. The party of the old Commie Lougheed. Lougheed and Pierre had a lot of sex together at the Roach Motel. He sold out Alberta over and over but pretended to struggle during the rape.
Hopefully Alberta emerges as a Swiss style Republic.
And so does this remainer want a new country
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IL2XwSkFJQ
Language warning 🙂
You know that is generally a lefty satire, right ? He is a Guardian loving never Trumper.
Yes he is a Guardianista Remainer, he says as much. But it ain’t satire. He is genuinely expressing his DisMay with May and the whole disfunctional edifice of Parliament, which at this point is universal in Britain. There will be defenestrations if this keeps up.
And politicians hate defenestrations.
If we fail to send the Dear Leader and his children’s crusade packing in the next election, we will deserve him.
“Western Canada is experiencing a rising tide of resentment toward the rest of the country…”
“Western Canada” is a fictional construct,* just as that great bogeyman “Central Canada” is. When all is said and done, there are 10 provinces jostling to get all they can out of Confederation.
* If you don’t believe me, then a simple question: why no mention of BC? Or Manitoba?
BC, at least the Lower Mainland, has already separated. The divide is at Hope and north at Whistler. On a map there would be warnings that “here be monsters”, but they’ll take the tax money and royalties thank you very muchly, while espousing “green” credentials. Winter is rare in the LM.
If the Yanks were smart they’d just invade, take the Yukon and build infrastructure right to Alaska, through Alberta and Saskatchewan. Hell, why be selective, they could take everything west of the Ontario/Manitoba border and who’d object and with what? Most folks would probably cheer to be rid of Ottawa, Ontario and especially Kaybek. Leave the LM still bordered at Hope and Whistler. Shut down Tans Mountain and they’d be hard pressed to drive any further with their electric cars.
The chance of fixing Canada failed in my eyes when the Eastern elites shot down the idea of an elected Senate! Representation by population is allowing Quebec and Ontario a strangle hold on the rest of us! The time to leave is now, the UDI that Watcher suggested is interesting and I would like to see it started! According the Un charter it is designed for separate land masses but is worth a try! All of on this site should put our thoughts together otherwise we are just shouting into the wind. Real names would help
We should be getting this going with our Lawyer buddies! To draw something up !!
We need an elected Senate and an elected Supreme Court as well if we want a true democracy. As it stands now we are a half assed democracy with both those bodies appointed.
If you want to see the future of Canada just look at the total mess the Brit’s are in. That form of government they have is a mess and DOES NOT SERVE THE PEOPLE . When you here it said that” we are subjects of the Queen or her Heirs” you better believe it. I think the US had it right and became a Republic. The West should do the same…Steve O
Exactly. They don’t want an elected, equal senate as that would challenge their enslavement of western Canada.
It was kyboshed when Mulroney knuckled under to the NDP.
The minimum commons seats for Quebec was palatable – and a non-issue – but the “social charter” demanded by the Dippers renderred the triple E senate (and the Quebec concession) into a moot point.
Random thought : if Alberta and Saskatchewan separate then they could switch to a strong, stable currency of another country (USD, for example). All of the two provinces debt is in Canadian dollars. If Canada loses 2 of its 3 have provinces, its biggest per capita tax contributing province (AB) and the bulk of its energy, potash, grain/oilseeds and uranium exports….won’t the CAD drop like a stone? AB and SK debt will cost a fraction of the original amount if the CAD falls by, say, half or more. Meanwhile exports, royalties and taxes would be paid to AB and SK in USD (or another strong, stable currency) so any lingering debt becomes very manageable for the new country.
That’s in addition to the billions of dollars saved per year by not paying equalization to Ottawa. Billions saved by being unshackled from Canada’s onerous resource development regulations and international agreements that harm our industries. Because AB and SK would be a landlocked nation, Canada’s signature on UN agreements guarantees access to coasts for our export goods.
How does AB and SK not have the upper hand in a separation referendum and subsequent separation negotiation wuth Canada? What are the benefits, beyond history and nostalgia, for staying in Canada? What reasons could Canada give to AB and SK for remaining in confederation?
LCB you are right. Nostalgia. Your family in TROC will still be your family after Alberta and possibly Sask. are gone. Canada the old Canada is gone it will never come back. Let that sink in, Canada the Old Canada is gone. Alberta families essentially send over 600B to Ottawa since resources was made a part of equalization. What does that mean. It means Alberta Families alone paid off all the National Debt, and are still chastised and shit on inside the former Canada.
Are the resources of other Provinces included in the Equalization formula. Absolutely not. Quebec Hydro posted a 4B profit this year yet got 13B in money from Alberta and Sask. Quebec’s resources are untouchable. Get out Alberta. Get the hell out.
Kenney needs to stop all pipelines from BC flowing through Alberta. Shut them in, block them off. Shut down all commercial truck traffic for 2-3 days for each vehicle with safety inspections before allowing them to cross Alberta, also make the buy a special one time only transit permit. Shut down all rail traffic east and west through Alberta, and shut off all Alberta oil going east or west. No Alberta oil or gas for TROC let them pay world prices. This will also force Oil Tankers onto BC. Maintain these things until we get what we want. A fair and square deal. Let Err Buck.
Agreed 100%. Let err buck is right.
I’m not really angry at the rest of Canada at this point. I just do not see a scenario where AB and SK can exist within Canada without our economy being destroyed by Ottawa and Mon-TO-Van. Our path and Canada’s path have diverged so much that we no longer have common goals or economic interests. I think even our culture and values are very different than the rest of Canada.
AB and SK need to take their share of the CPP, build up a prov police force and otherwise prepare for becoming a separate country. Harper’s firewall plan is a good start. Learn from Brexit : 1) have everything ready to go for a no-deal scenario and 2) make sure your political class is not sabatoging the separation implementation.
A very good thought – I actually think that Manitoba would join with Alberta and Saskatchewan as well. Then Churchill could be used as an international port. I think we are living in very interesting times indeed and that the next 10 years are crucial. I supported Reform back in the early 90’s and truly hoped that change would occur with them as the official opposition. It did not. I lived in Toronto for 25 years and can personally attest that the majority of Ontario thinks that Canada ends at the Great Lakes in the south part of the province and ends at Kanata to the west of Ottawa. Canada then picks up at Vancouver. I had friends visit me in Calgary in 2013, who were amazed that there were tall buildings in Calgary and that there was an LRT system. The ignorance of the rest of Canada is willful, in my humble opinion.
Polls I have seen show Manitoba being lukewarm to the idea of separation but who knows. I’d wager that whichever provinces leave with Alberta will, within a couple decades, be citizens of the richest country in north america (per capita).
Small population/geographically big, resource-rich, northern democratic countries tend to do quite well in terms of wealth, prosperity and standard of living indexes. Think Scandinavia but with a free market, low tax, pro-business mindset poaching head offices and corporations from Canada and other countries. I’d imagine foreign investment would not just rebound in Alberta…it would explode. Cheap, abundant, reliable energy (electricity and petroleum) unhobbled from Canadian anti-fossil fuel interference. The list of benefits from separation goes on and on.
LC you are correct. However, I think that once Ab – Sask is independant, then we would see very very quickly, applications from Mb, NWT & the Yukon as well…None of whom are ever even considered by Ottawa other than resources rich places to LOOT.
The only application that would require some negotiation is the that of BC. One in which we would & should EXCLUDE the Lower Mainland Latte Sippers and the Eco-Nazis of YVR Island of even Participating in.
I’m not sure how things would look at the end but the transition would be rockier for Canada. The realignment of provinces into alliances with Canada (Ont and Que), Western prairies (AB and SK) or independant (BC or lower mainland BC?) would depend on many factors.
But, yes, I think Canada would probably disintegrate and western provinces (BC, AB and SK) would fare the best economically. Free to grow our industries and create better public and private institutions, different tax structure, streamlined regulations, improved constitution taking the good parts of US and Canadian documents but discarding that which doesn’t work.
Ont and Que: subnational debt is massive, a devalued CAD, Canada’s national debt*, responsibility for the rest of the have-not provinces, their inability to move major projects forward due to NIMBY/BANANA regulations, terms of existing trade deals, UN committments, bound to the infexibility of the flawed parts of Canadian Constitution and Supreme Court decisions.
*Alberts would argue that the equalization payments that have flowed from Alberta taxpayers to Ottawa over the decades have their share of the national debt paid in full.
It’s pretty obvious that the Liberals have written off Alberta and use the transfer payments to bribe Quebec and the Maritime provinces. The big question will be Ontario. What I want to know is…
New Brunswick has 770,000 people and 10 Federal ridings (77,000 people per riding).
Alberta has 4.31 million people and 34 seats (126,000). Alberta should have 56 ridings (22 more), or more ridings than Nova Scotia, New Brunswick and PEI combined.
Agreed. Now, the solution is not more ridings in Alberta (god help us, we don’t need more politicians) so the only fair thing to do is reduce the number of ridings in the Maritimes (and Quebec too but good luck there).
NB should have two MPs. One for the south/cities and one for the Acadian hinterland.
PEI should have one MP. He should not live part time in an inaccessible seasonal cottage … : o )
NS should have three MPs. One for Cape Breton, one for Halifax/Truro area and one for the rest.
NFLD should have two MPs. One for St. Johns and one for the rest.
Each of the territories should continue to have one MP each. Yukon, NWT, Labrador and Nunavut.
There you go. 23 snouts lost from the trough and a subsequently louder voice for others.
Win/Win.
If you took the population of a province or territory and divided it by a constant number (such as 1 rep for every 111,500 people) and giving a minimum 1 person per territory, each province would gain (+) or lose (-) the following number of seats:
ON +8
AL +5
BC +3
MN -1
QC -2
PEI -2
NF -2
NS -2
NB -3
SASK-3
Interesting that the Maritime provinces combined have 9 more seats than they should by population. Ontario and Alberta are the most under-represented per capita.
I can say as a proud Ontarian that I don’t think we need Ontario to have any more say in how the country is run. Especially in highly dense population areas of the province where people are more…… dense.
I’m not sure how well Saskatchewan losing 3 seats and Alberta gaining 5 would play out to the “Saskaberta” fantasists either.
It’s high time people start to really think hard about what they want their new country to look like. It’s easy to say “We want out,” putting some substance behind it with what system of laws and governance it’s going to have, etc (there’s a lot to think about) is a bit murkier. For the record, I do not hate the ROC, I just see no future going forward as part of it, and nothing so far has been able to convince me otherwise.
That is easy Ryan. Alberta still has a Democratically elected Premier Minister/Prime Minister, it has a Parliament, it has it’s own law enforcement. I think we should trust the good and decent adults of Alberta to create a new country, the Consent of the Governed.
I would suggest they adopt a Swiss style Republic. Were the citizens make all big decision’s and Politicians are nobodies. Who can name the President of Switzerland. You can’t because he is an employee of the people and does as he is told. As long as he does as he is told and does it well he keeps his job. All big decisions in Switzerland are made by the Citizens. Immigration, Gun Control, Language etc.
The best thing about Alberta going UDI is wipes out all legal entanglements with Ottawa. No Bilingualism, No Indian Treaties, No UN obligations via Canada’s deals, etc.
The options would be many. How about Alberta creating an International Banking zone and tax haven like Switzerland. Switzerland basically pays their bills with Banking. And a few high end industries.
Like I suggested to Ralph Klein and Dannielle Smith, exact a percentage of oil and gas revenues in physical gold, silver platinum to be held in a secure vault in Edmonton. Ballast for stability and the new Banking zone.
How many people for instance know that the Oil Sands is loaded with Platinum, when they remove the oil and reclaim the sand they remove platinum from the sand. At one point it was almost paying their operating costs.
No costs anymore for all Canada’s wasteful programs. Lower taxes for citizens. In fact if managed carefully Alberta would no longer need Property Taxes, imagine that.
Great comments Watcher. Im with ya on a Republic that is totally controlled by its Citizens. 1000%
With Bills 48 and 69 it is obvious to me that the ROC wants Alberta and Saskatchewan to leave. I’ve been for it since the late 70s.
Same here.
Separation can’t come soon enough. That is the one thing that has me hesitant in voting for Max rather than the pantywaist.
This has been going on forever….
The late Sen. Keith Davey, ‘the rainmaker’, Liberal national campaign chairman in the 1980 federal election and a long-time senior Liberal strategist: “Screw the West, we’ll take the rest.”
Using the west as a whipping boy to troll for votes in Mtl/Tor/Van is a longstanding feature, not a bug, for the Liberal Party of Canada.
The Boy King, his puppet strings to Butts severed, and entangled in obstruction of justice scandals, will be looking for a distraction to motivate his army of low information and narcissistic supporters.
Alberta, Sask., small business owners, resource workers, evangelical protestants, traditional catholics, and others should don their bio-hazard suits stat.
WE need no further proof from these incompetents in Ottawa that liberal should never be elected to run the country.
The alienation is determined by rural/urban boundary lines rather than by provincial borders. You can expect provincial and federal politicians to continue suck-holing to our vote-rich cities, where the average city voter expects the government arse-wiping to (a) continue, and (b) improve.
Completely agree. A rural Ontarian has more in common with a Saskatchewan farmer than any soy toy urbaniste in Toronto.
The good news is that a recent poll showed 50% of Albertans would consider separation from the RoC. The bad news is that there’s no agreement on what that separation would look like. There are at least 3 competing visions:
1. An independent Alberta
2. An independent Western Canada (or just Alta-Sask)
3. Alberta as the 51st state
First of all Alberta will NEVER become the 51st state. There’s enough opposition to indefinitely prevent Puerto Rico or DC from becoming states, and they’re both American territories filled with American citizens. There would also be fierce opposition from states producing oil, gas, coal, grain, beef etc., and who don’t want to compete with Alberta as part of the US domestic market. And it would set a terrible precedent, with Haiti, El Salvador and Guatemala then demanding to become the 52nd, 53rd, and 54th states. Allowing mostly white Alberta into the US but denying the same to duskier nations would be racist, you see.
Second, coordinating the simultaneous separation of all the provinces and territories of Western Canada would be utterly impossible. Where would the capital city be? What would the flag look like? How about the national anthem? The currency? Who gets to write the constitution and what would be in it? Good luck getting agreement on any of these issues. Not to mention why would Alberta join a new federation with the anti-oilsands zealots of BC? What would be the point of jumping from the frying pan into the fire?
The only way forward is for Alberta to go it alone. Say what you will about the Quebec separatists, at least they never wanted to join the US or wait until a bunch of other provinces decided to leave alongside them. They want an independent country, period, just like patriotic Albertans should. Quebec and Alberta already have recognized borders, legislatures, executives, bodies of law, flags, and unofficial anthems (Gens Du Pays and Four Strong Winds respectively). Both provinces are ready for independence tomorrow if need be. The difference being that Quebec would take a massive economic hit if they ever separated, while Alberta would receive a huge economic windfall.
If and when Alberta does separate, then other provinces and territories could decide to join it, or not. Ideally I’d like to see Saskatchewan, Manitoba, the NWT and Yukon, and the interior of BC eventually join, basically all of Western Canada except for coastal BC and the Inuit ethnostate of Nunavut. But Alberta would have to be prepared to go it alone, and any other entities that wanted to join later would only do so on Alberta’s terms.
If Albertans are serious about separation (and if Trudeau is re-elected in October I expect they will be) then they need to take the bogus 51st state and Western Canada options off the table and laser focus on an independent Alberta alone. Issues like the currency and the future relationship with the US and what remains of Canada should be seriously discussed now. I would think a transition period where Alberta switched from the Canadian to the American dollar and economic system would be the best way forward. Alberta would effectively become a de facto economic colony of the US, but it would be a de jure independent nation with infinitely more freedom of action than it has now as a political and economic colony of Central Canada.
If you support Alberta independence than you should definitely vote for the Freedom Conservatives on April 16th. Don’t worry, the UCP will win, but we need to publicly signal our rejection of the status quo by supporting a quasi-independence party that will no doubt turn into a full-throated “Parti Albertois” if Trudeau is re-elected, and push hard for a separation referendum. Hopefully at least Derek Fildebrandt will win his seat and carry the independence torch forward in the legislature. Bye-bye, Canada!
All that tells me Jeppo that Albertans are waiting for that man/woman to stand up and start leading. 50% for an Independent Country is HUGE numbers. In any other country but TrudeauLand the alarms and sirens would be screaming. But the state controlled elite media are tampin it down.
What you can’t tamp down is word of mouth. When every where you go young and old in Alberta are talking to each other and they all want out.
Another thing if official polls are 50%, then the number in reality is much higher.
The critical mass is approaching fusion.
Let’s say Kenney gets a majority in April. Let’s say he confronts Ottawa and Ottawa tells him to FO and Quebec and Atlantic Canada say FO.
The fuse will be lit in Alberta. It may well become a Prairie Grass Fire.
What the Prairie Provinces and people need to understand. You can not eat an elephant in one bite. You have shown great restraint and dignity in all these assaults so far, but Alberta can only go Independent itself. Do not try to create a movement were all the western Provinces make the move at the same time.
Alberta go first, with the support of Sask. Then Alberta helps Sask. Then they both help who ever else. This is a road each Province will have to walk alone for success.
The Liberal Party view of Canada, as expressed by it’s leader, is:
“There is no core identity, no mainstream Canada. Those qualities make us the first post nation-state.”
– P.M. Justin Trudeau
Those of us old enough to remember the Centennial celebrations of 1967. How proud, we were of our pioneers who founded Canada. How confident we were in our future as a nation, a part of the greatness of Western Civilization.
Since then federal gov’t. policy, Supreme Court decisions, and provincial government surrender are rendering Canada into a totalitarian collectivist, Cult. Marxist utopia. Something the founders of Confederation would not recognize.
A two or more province version of Canada, true north strong and free, appears to be not our first choice, but our only choice.
I will put it this way:
if ALTA et al hive off, Im gonna get my passport renewed and apply for a change in citizenship.
The clock is running out fast on any chance of Western secession because demography decides everything, not economics. And what do the demographics say? They say “Asian and African”. Their numbers are rising at an accelerating pace and they know full well that the Canadian government (whichever party runs it) is fully committed to making them the majority population within a few generations’ time. If you think their allegiance is going to be to Alberta or some Western fragment rather than to their brethren who are presently taking over the rest of the country, most especially in BC and Ontario, you are a deluded white person brought up to believe that ethnic and racial solidarity is an unseemly custom of the past. The Asians and Africans are here to show you that’s not true.
Tend to agree with that POV.
I attended the Balloon Fest in High River last year. That’s in Alberta for some of you, about 50 km south of Calgary. Observing the ethnic mix, I’d say separation would be a hard sell for most of the folks attending. English was a minority language in that crowd. That’s current for most of the major cities and towns.
Separation should have happened with the NEP.
Your friends to the South say, anytime.
The federal liberal party represents “Only” hair-ball Activists that have destroyed the economy…
A) The Indian grievance industry….. Hell Jody is only ~ 46% Indian.. are there any real Indians in Canada?
B) The Freak grievance Industry… add all the alphabet flat liners together…They can call themselves muffins
C) The AGW fraud that wants to control all LIFE (carbon dependent) on the planet…Sick
I think the liberals want to lose the election and start over… The bank is empty
Sure wish Max & Scheer would join forces for 2019 and clear the hair balls from all of Ontario & Quebec
The Impending Collision:
Italy vs Euro
When the people no longer have anything to lose…
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BPtqx0iCyIo&time_continue=5
Folks here may want to see if this fits; lots of info at their site:
https://actionalberta.ca/
“….It is time for Albertans to tell it like it is, plan for our Independence if the situation cannot be improved and move on. That is why we believe that Alberta MUST put a separation referendum on the table.
We request your active support in moving this agenda forward. Please spread the word of our work, join our network, contact your MP and MLA with your views and stay tuned!l”