“It reminds me of the alternative facts debate in the U.S. with Donald Trump … they just say things that aren’t true but just they say that’s their version of it. So Mr. Trudeau’s completely lost any respect and any credibility he had on this entire issue.”
What could possibly go wrong?
“I did not take one single penny from them……..” – JT
We all know Liberals lie.
We all know the Media lies.
So how come this is the first I’ve seen of the following, which I saw in some comments but which ring very true.
Oh yeah, Canada.
To wit:
1. SNC has to keep Head Office in Montreal until 2024
2.Only 3600 Canadian jobs not 9000
3.Very little mention of bridge scandal
4. No mention of convicted SNC chairman’s get out of jail free card last week
What a Banana Republic!
“While Judy Wilson-Raybould’s motives remain unclear, for now it’s a breath of fresh air after decades of lies from the PMO!
One has to wonder how smart Butts, Telford, Wernick et al are when it was this government which slipped section 715 into the Criminal Code as part of the last budget omnibus bill. Clearly, it was part of the overall full court press by SNC and its lobbyists. There is a subsection in the DPA on the conditions and factors to be or not to be considered! Jobs and economics are out. As an aside, only 3600 of the 9000 Canadian jobs are in Quebec. As well, the company is bound by loan agreements with the Caisse to keep its head office in Quebec until 2024. Further, SNC is now under investigation for bribery on the Jacques Cartier bridge job it did. Also offside the Code conditions.”
Building to code in Quebec? Non, non. In Quebec we build things so dey have to be repaired … frequently. Dis ensure dat da money it keep on flowing!
“TVA News has learned that Neil Bruce’s wife, Emma Griffin, is a director of Claridge, the company that manages Stephen Bronfman’s fortune. The latter is a personal friend of Justin Trudeau and the head of his fundraising campaign.”
… nothing to do with jobs, everything to do with ‘friends’ $
You means the same Bronfman’s that moved 2 million of Seagrams stock out of Canada in 1991 and avoided paying capital gains tax of $700 million?
The same Stephen Bronfman who raised $2 mil for the libranos and became their sr bag man?
Da proof is in da proof.
abt,yeah,the same Bronfmans that applied under Mulroney to move 2 Billion offshore,which was then confirmed and allowed by Chretien when he took over. Nothing like inter-Party co-operation is there?
Don, it’s called the Uniparty, or, in Canada, the Laurentian Elite.
“One has to wonder how smart Butts, Telford, Wernick et al are when it was this government which slipped section 715 into the Criminal Code as part of the last budget omnibus bill”
Obviously though they didn’t write it, nor did they proofread it.
To further demonstrate their “astuteness” because they didn’t send it through the justice committee where they could recommend having those inconvenient limits taken out of the legislation, they put it in front of the finance committee that had no interest in justice matters.
Fyi
You may want to go peruse the minutes of that finance committee hearing where the witness from the justice department claims it wasn’t created at the behest of a corporate interest.
Its also interesting that the committee was advised that the DPA legislation took effect 90 days after royal assent of the budget.
That was June 21.
JWR had her meeting with PM Sockmonkey on the 90 day mark when he asked her about her “decision”.
“Canadians expect their government to look for ways to protect jobs, to grow the economy, and that’s exactly what we’ve done every step of the way,”
Speaking of “alternative facts” … TurdDope might want to check the article below. Because he SUCKS at meeting Canadians expectations. But he gives real purdy speeches, with that there purdy mouth … now git up on that hill and squeal like a pig …
Fun facts.
As long as JWR remains in caucus, it stifles all discussion about how to deal with this crisis during any remaining caucus meetings.
Any talk that this was about saving jobs, is null because they did nothing about the job loss in the oil and gas sector and the closure of GM Oshawa.
Aaaah, but you’ve got to remember Joseph that this was about saving Quebec jobs and these are the only jobs worth saving in “little leaders” universe.
Its too bad that Scheer or any of the CPC caucus havent made this loud and clear, for sound bites on the news. It can be done, skillfully, to point out to the country, the examples of LIEBrawl malfeasance and ignorance to the rest of the country, without insulting the mushy Quebec middle of the road voters.
Missing a grand opportunity to mortally wound PM Dipshit Beta boy
“Any talk that this was about saving jobs, is null because they did nothing about the job loss”
It was never about the jobs.
The Liberals are terrible liars.
Luckily for them, the Media are much, much better.
“There is a subsection in the DPA on the conditions and factors to be or not to be considered! Jobs and economics are out
the media isnt THAT much better, up until 4 weeks ago, the emdia was singing sweet nothings from JUthtin’s songbook.
Don’t give them too much credit yet, the job isnt finished……………
My apologies for being unclear!
Edit:
Luckily for the Liberals, the Media are much,much better liars.
Does this Young 17 year old Teenager look similar to your Daughter or a Sister when She was a Teen? Possibly the similarity is along the extended Family or the welcomed Daughter-in-law or Niece.Possibly there are Young Female Relatives in Britain presently facing this situation every day now.
Anyway these are the Young Women and the age of being Raped or Murdered or if much younger forced into a Rape Gang as Their material to make Pimp Money.
Ask P.M. Trudeauce if he has any fear of His Daughter will be in Danger. While You are asking find out why the Liberal Party Federal Cabinet has such a disproportionate number of Muslim Cabinet Ministers to the __ present__ population of Muslim Citizens. Stress Citizens not including the steady {working around the Legal Immigration List} additions to the non-assimilating Muslim Communities presently in place.
“Talk Like A Liberal”
… But I got wise… You’re the Devil in disguise.
Yes dissing Trump to the media is exactly how to win friends and votes from people on your side/////
THANK YOU FOR GETTING IT.
Yes, Scheer may in theory be on our side but that doesn’t mean we have to respect his leadership.
“Canadians expect their government to look for ways to protect jobs,… ”
How is protecting SNC corruption protecting Canadian jobs?
If SNC can’t bid on Canadian government contracts then some other Canadian company will bid on them and Canadian workers will have the jobs.
Trudeau and the media keep yapping about jobs.
As usual every word is bullshit.
Jobs has nothing to do with it.
Try this instead: “Canadians expect their government to look for ways to protect cute little puppies… ”
It’s about as relevant.
“Some other Canadian company will bid on the jobs”. But it’s no good unless a Quebec company gets the job. Then the money flows to the right people.
Notice how “Trump” is brought into every conversation, the implication being an unsubtle, “well at least we’re better off than if Trump was our leader”.
I am convinced that the LPC has unpaid trolls visit every msm website daily to distract from the conversation by the mention of Trump,and if that doesn’t seem to work,”Harper!”
I can’t believe Trudeau has lost any “respect” as I don’t believe anyone who voted for him understands that concept,and the rest of us definitely did NOT have any respect for him. Why would we respect a man who never accomplished anything in his life, was essentially an unemployed bum with a trust fund at age 36, and had never held a serious job in his life?
As I often stated when Justin Trudeau was running for LPC leader, compare his CV to that of another fortunate son of the Canadian “in crowd”, Galen Weston Jr., born with the same advantages as Trudeau, but attained a BA from Harvard and an MBA from Columbia and was ready to take over as CEO of Westons at age 34.
If I wanted a Crown Prince to take the PM’s job,it’d be this guy not someone who drifted through life like a child-man.My opinion was not very popular, as Justin was just full of “sunny ways” and the suckers fell under his spell like children in a fairy tale.
Respect: “an attitude of consideration or high regard”. How could anyone have ever held respect for Justin Trudeau?
don morris
juxtapose bongo with one of his airhead buddies Ben Mulroney. Maybe Ben should be PM? At least BM has held a job.
Never in the history of Canada have we been led by someone as illegitimate or unworthy.
The true scandal, imho, was that SNC Lavalin was lobbying the government to dismissing charges for the national interest, first on prosecution, over “national interests,” then on the deferred prosecution (to soak up more contracts) then, whoops, national interests don’t qualify in the latter!
Let’s not forget some SNC executives have already gotten off for the Crown not giving them a speedy trial. JWR, and rightly so, refused to play ball on that, but did this bunch truly contemplate letting SNC Lavalin walk over their fraudulent misdeeds? The chances are about the same as a duly awarded supply ship contract being put on hold while under construction. C’mon that would never happen?
Our sunny ways transparency types are getting heat stroke. No neither the PM nor the government will resign over this (Goodale as PM, hey there’s a fresh old face). Conservatives should be careful what they wish for. Just cast out a little more line and see what bites is my suggestion, there is much more juicy scandal lucre awaiting, along with a dead stop economy and pipeline paralysis.
Witness A (Trudeau) – gets accused of undue pressure and judicial interference by AG (witness B) who was appears to have been fired for not meddling in the justice system on behalf of an old boys club of corporate criminal in Quebec. New AG is appointed who is much more compliant to Quebec company’s needs.
-tries out a dozen different versions of events, new ones on an almost daily basis.
– muzzles Witness B to prevent her from telling her side
-talks on behalf of Witness B
-Witness A has his sycophants trash Witness B
-key advisor who is implicated suddenly resigns
-mostly repeats lame, scripted and meaningless talking points instead of answering questions directly. Occasionally has to stop to remember his lines.
-Refuses to let most of the relevant individuals testify. One who does testify goes off an a weird rant about election violence.
-still refuses to let Witness B testify completely
-In his latest version, Witness A is now quibbling over perspective and semantics of words instead of denying the charges of judicial interference.
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Witness B (former AG JWR)- calmly and clearly spends 3 hours testifying and answering questions with directness and without hesitation, even though she is still partially muzzled by Witness A.
-seems very clear about the law and her legal responsibilities.
-she produces believable timelines, copious notes, dates and direct quotes that credibly backs up her testimony and destroys Witness A’s talking points.
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Yep, it is a real tough call about who is telling the truth and who is acting guilty and desperate.
I’d also bet JWR would be the only one to agree to testify under oath.
But Puglass wants to REMAIN a LIEBRawl, and run again as a LIEBrawl! Go figure! She is not to be trusted whatsoever, she is no hero, she is a s corrupt a LIEBrawl as any other! You cant make this stuff up.
With Trugroper not firing her or kicking her out of LIEbrawl land, he appears more indecisive and weak than ever. In a lot of ways, this is great, as everyday she remains a LIEBrawl, the more internal dissension and divisions will occur. Just like the DeMarxists with AOC the usurper and Pelosi, at present.
https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/exclusive-jody-wilson-raybould-overwhelmed-grateful-and-seeking-re-election
I assume she wants to stay in the Liberal Party because she aligns with their ideas and wants to return the party to their core values. Not sure what’s wrong with that even though I disagree with most of the Liberal Party ideology. She comes across as sincere and the CPC should hope she doesn’t replace Trudeau. Scheer would look like even more of a squishy amorphous blob of wishy-washy political convictions next to her.
I’m not a liberal or conservative but I know enough about them to see that there’s good, bad and ugly in all parties.
Sorry, I see no good with the Natural Governing Party, ever. Arrogance, entitlement, corruption and eastern preferencial treatment is their core identity, and now environmental extremism adds to their offensive stance.
The Liberals morphed into something very ugly over the years (decades). They hide the ugliness behind pretty platitudes but the mask keeps slipping. They don’t realize it but they need a JWR. Otherwise they’ll end up like Mulroney’s Progressive Conservative party.
Seems like change and reform has to come from politicians outside of upper and lower Canada.
The Liberals were almost identical to the Conservatives before 1968, Pearson/Diefenbaker, two old school politicians who kept this country in good shape. The big change came with the ascension of PET to the throne, congruent with the rise of Paul Desmarais and Power Corporation in Quebec. I don’t believe it is a coincidence.
The LPC corruption with Quebec industrial giants started then, and now they have completely bought the country’s politicians. Sometimes they back an amateur who they saw as being very compliant, but then everyone makes mistakes.
If Andrew of the Quebec Dairy Cartel wins, we’ll get some action on the resource extraction industries, undoubtedly for the better, there will be NO handgun seizures and we hunters will be able to breathe easy fora few years, and the endemic corruption will continue as before, just more discretely.
Wtf was Trudeau thinking in appointing an idealist to a Ministry where that can be so dangerous? Makes ya wonder if the boy ain’t none too bright.
I agree. Quebec’s Poutine Mafia has been firmly in control of Canadian Prime Ministers (LPC and PC) since at least PET. Justin “The Sock-father” Trudeau is just the latest iteration. You can almost hear him and his good fellas in the PMO saying to their media minions “Someday, and that day may never come, I will call upon you to do a supportive op-ed for me.”
:-))
I think we know about the level of wattage, but then maybe he is not calling the shots.
They, including the Liberal supporters, have a name for this bunch…the Laurentian Elite.
the mafia reference, kinda like another ‘Godfather’ line about “I mean, in five years, the Corleone Family is going to be completely legitimate”.
from:
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/The_Godfather
oh look, lucky Canadistan, we gots the Green Party, now we gots the Gangrene Party !!!
I would say both Liberal and Conservative parties have lost their core values. The Liberals have been corrupted to the core since the “Great Pier” the Cons not so much….Steve O
“I can assure Canadians that this time I’m telling the truth'”…….. I mean it…..this time….
I dunno every time I see bongo trying to explain hirself (pronoun) outa another jam caused by hirself he looks like he just let a shart slip into his Fruit of the Looms.
JWR is still in the liberal caucus, and that is a problem for the Turd. Throw he out, and that will creat3 new problems for the Turd. And an election is coming down the pipes, along with a recession made in kanada. Fun times we have now. But in talking to people, it is amazing how uninformed people are, at the unDork level no less
Why is it that when I read anything written by NMA000 I know there will be either a newly minted
conspiracy theory on the way or another historial plot by the Jews has been discovered by him in the Alice in Wonderland Rabbit Hole he calls home. NMA000 is more than a little predictable.
BCer666, someone leave the broom closet door, in the basement of the church, open agin???
NME666 is the price we all must pay for frequenting SDA.
Confirms what I think of Scheer if he’s casting trump in a bad light to try to score points.
Trump simply looks better every day, and his critics more unhinged and disconnected from reality.
Which side do you want to be associated with Andrew?
I explained to someone this morning, that if Scheer wants to keep peeling off the base and sending them to Max, this is precisely how you do it: remind them you’re chosen to align yourself with the US Democrats and Canadian media.
I just hope my conservative MP will stand for re-election so I don’t have to vote for the CPC candidate. When they dump Trudeau the Liberals should invite Scheer to cross the floor and become their leader, it’s his best chance to become Prime Minister.
Maxine has the only seat of this “People’s Party”. It took Reform 13 years to get to the Canadian Alliance Party and then
another 6 years to go from the Alliance to the CPC gaining a minority government in 2006. About 20 years in all.
And that was with a party largely based in conservative Alberta. Quebec is NOT a conservative bastion.
Quebecers are political whores. As an Albertan, I am not going to take any kind of a chance on a Quebec party.
I would take Scheer and the CPC over the Frog Bernier in a heartbeat. Bernier is a stalking horse for the LIBs.
I think Bernier has a lot of great Conservative ideas and ideals. I really wish he had won the nomination.
Max was really quiet on JWR and SNC Lavlin and mostly spoke about immigration while JT and the PMO began their slide from grace.
I am starting to believe someone in the Laurentians has encouraged him to go separate ways with the CPC and begin the PPC thereby splitting the vote allowing a Liberal majority. Thereby keeping the Laurentians in a more secure power position.
Andy 2% is a dud. I will hold my nose and vote CPC this election but will be ever wary of him.
Max has to wander in the wilderness for at least 1 election cycle eventually attracting the best Conservatives to his platform. Otherwise you risk getting the equivalent of a Notley or Turdeau and his band of Global Village Idiots running the country.
“I think Bernier has a lot of great Conservative ideas and ideals. I really wish he had won the nomination.”
Yes, that is why I joined CPC to vote for him. But he lost and now he is being useless, helping libranos and having a tantrum while Sheer is librano light. Happy times. Mad Max is not a solution. Patrick Browning Sheer is a solution.
Dan, is that heir to the whiskey fortune related to the heiress to the whiskey thats currently out on 100,000 million dollars bail pending trial in New York? I wonder if she is a personal friend to this idiot also? Something to do with a roman numeral cult I think.
NXIVM. Yes, the quiet rumours are out there about the Trudgroper’s relationship with the Bronfman kids, who are thick in with the sex cult……………….how deep is it, how involved has he been, etc. Very quiet though. The cult does like celebrity types, and Groper, particularly his new age flakey wife would fit right in with this.
Andrew Scheer reminds me of Tim Hudak, and not in a good way.
He reminds of Patrick Brown, and the sooner he is free to run for a major of a liberal town the better.