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goodbye Canada.
Well, it could of been way worse. Justina could of been shrewd, experience, intelligent, educated and driven.
Instead you got a airhead soyboy with the work ethic of a rich 14 year old girl.
the country is going down. shrewd or idiot it matters not.
Canada’s Total Public Debt all in which includes, Crown Corps, Municipalities and Provinces is approx. 6-7 Trillion, with a population of about the size of California 35M and about 16-17M actual tax payers. That is more than almost all of the bad actors of the EU lumped together. The average Canadian working family now pay more in taxes than they are allowed to keep by their Over Lords for food, clothing and shelter, the bare essentials of life. Even a man in Canada who lives in a cardboard box under the overpass, who panhandles a few dollars, has to pay tax as soon as he spends his few ill gotten gains. Canada and all Canadians are very very fucked. Even tho Chretien the Slack Jawed Drewling Idiot and the crook Martin stole 54B out of the UI Fund belonging to the workers of Canada. Canadians still elected Liberals. Even after Adscam. No matter what the Ruling Globalist Elite do to Canadians. Canadians are so programmed to accept authority that they just keep electing and re electing all thieves and crooks. Canadians deserve everything they get. They love their Gulag and they love submitting brainlessly for more abuse, like abused women. Canadian Corruption. http://www.mediacoop.ca/story/meet-canada%E2%80%99s-ruling-oligarchy-parasites-plenty/10917
In 2011-12 Canada’s Total Public Debt and Liabilities was 4.1 Trillion imagine what it is now, 5 years later. I saw a number somewhere of 5-7 Trillion. They keep a lot hidden by using Crown Corps as off books debt load. But guess what the tax payer still has to pay Crown Corp. Debt too. https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/pensions-health-care-will-push-canadian-governments-2-2-trillion-further-into-debt-fraser-institute
Canadians deserve whatever happen to them next. They voted for these governments that did this over the decades.
I will reverse the trend this October & vote for Maxime.
I’d love to vote for Max but that would be irresponsible, it will assuredly put the incompetent Trudeau Cabal back in power.
I’m sorry Max didn’t play his cards differently and waited it out for one more term.
We may not like our leader but we all have to pause and think, we definitely dislike the Liberal and pseudo leader Trudeau more.
Liz, well said.
A vote for Max will split the anti-Turdeau vote. Didn’t we learn the lesson in Alberta where a split vote allowed Nutley to get in?
Nutley’s deficits of approx $10 billion for a population of approx 4 million, translate to a federal deficit of approx $90 billion! Neither Conservative or Wild Rose voters wanted that.
While I like many of Max’s policies, I will not vote for him.
Yes it’s a problem. Vote for the Liberals in red suites or vote for the Liberals in blue suites. They offer the same policies. Is Andy 2% asserting he will build pipelines and investigate the charitable status of the green organizations that now apparently run this country? Is he saying he will withdraw from the CoP? He says he’ll bring in a “not-a-Carbon-tax” in place of Trudeau’s tax. Has he said he will end funding of the media, including the CBC?
Has he said anything? Andrew Scheep is like an old Chuck Norris movie: both are missing in action.
Liz…”.We may not like our leader “….what leader. There are 4 assholes at the head of 4 parts, and not one of them is a leader.
This is a real dilemma.
“I’m sorry Max didn’t play his cards differently”
Have a read at his platform; he IS different. Remember; Scheer may be better than Justin but he still is a traditional + politically correct politician that is afraid to take a clear stance on many issues for fear of… Heck he can’t even hold our “not ready” PM to account.
https://www.peoplespartyofcanada.ca/platform
Liz, agreed completely. Joe is entirely right that Max will simply split the anti-Liberal vote.
Trudeau will get the NDP vote.
I agree completely. I am so dismayed by what Max did – and I do like him better than Scheer, and I wish he had won the leadership. However, he didn’t. If he had stayed with the conservatives I think this might have been their election to lose. As it stands, with a divided right, I think there is very little hope to unseat Trudeau.
Why couldn’t he have stayed in the party, tried to influence/change things from within? This way I think they’ll all lose. They never learn it seems.
But I have to hold my nose and vote for Scheer. Because a vote for Max becomes a vote for Justin, just that simple.
He didn’t leave the Conservative, they kicked him out because he was Conservative.
This is a religious argument. You cannot argue with religion.
The party faithful will just keep voting for whomever is the current pope, leader, whatever.
sorry liz but your vote will be a vote for the status quo. sometimes it is necessary to vote for what you really believe as opposed to milque toast liberalism.
Indeed. Much better to go over the cliff doing 100 with the CPC, than going over at 150 in the Lib clown car. Who cares that the end result is no differerent in either case. Andy 2%, or bust!
The only problem is, the people prefer to have a compassionate driver, the very embodiment of Canadian values, suave to boot, than a schlub like Andy boy.
Time to face facts and recognize there is no easy way out. If not Max, who? If not now, when? It’s a time for choosing, in the words of a former actor, despised by everyone, who went on to rescue his country from a socialist dead end, much like Canada’s situation today. He led, the nation followed.
Nice Sheer Fear
The LibCon Uni Globalists have all got to go.
There’s only really truly one choice and that’s Max…
Trudeau and Sheer are the same type of leaderless global controlled leaders
There are some of us old fiscal conservatives who have given up on politics in Canada. None of the major political parties have the philosophical commitment to openly debate the major issues that face Canada. It is the lack of political fortitude that has gotten us to where we are today. Many so called eastern conservatives are grasping at straws thinking that the CPC will return the country to the good old ‘Harper era’. Reason will prevail and Turdeau will become an ugly blemish.
Western conservative like me have a different view. We consider the Harper era as a failed opportunity and a likely last gasp to keep this country together. For easterners, of whatever political ilk, who think that the status quo can be recovered are in for a surprise. The West will not tolerate another round of Quebec appeasement as the traditional ‘buying’ of a majority government starts with the upcoming federal election. This is not a racist diatribe but a comment on how Canada has been ran for hundreds of years as power brokers play one part of the country against another.
Does Max Bernier have resonance in Western Canada? For many he will as he publically voices many of the issues that do not get open debate in Canada. For some like me we have heard this story before. Reform went east talking about many of these same issues only to see years of work dissipated as the party was neutered. Many old western conservatives see no solution until the economy tanks and likely decades are required to rebuild what remains of the country using fundamental principals of economics and equality. IMHO Canada, as now composed, will not survive this process.
Well said.
The merged Reform/Alliance/Progressive Conservative Party was taken over by the Laurentian Elite faction and everything the original Reform Party stood for was betrayed.
And now we have a federal Liberal government that is destroying this country economically in one term. Never mind also further undermining the social fabric.
All for pretty hair and smooth lies.
No, all for the government gravy.
I believe Max is the only hope for Canada, he is the only politician that is willing to walk the walk. Scheer wouldn’t know a conservative if one bit him in the ass.
There are no perfect politicians but Max has potential. He will have to be nudged into introducing some form of the Triple E senate, without Senate reform the West is doomed. We need an institution which can bypass the Laurentian Elite that infect both the Libs and Cons.
Max supporters are Trudeau supporters.
It’s that simple.
Max is unreliable and not a team player.
His actions speak louder than words.
He is a traitor to the party and if he helps get Trudeau re-elected a traitor to the country.
I have no kind words for that self centered a$$hole.
“Bob Daye”. You mean Bob Rae, you are.
Maxime Bernier is a traitor?????? LOL. Your boss Andrew Scheer is a spineless “leader”, smiles too much, is for the Paris Climate Change thingy, he is scared of making a bad move, he is scared to say anything and he is for identity politics, just like our PM.
“Max supporters are Trudeau supporters” You, sir are smoking powerful weed.
I’m voting for Max…a conservative. Anyone that chooses to split the vote by voting for the liberal Scheer is free to do so and I bare them no ill will. If Trudeau gets in again…so be it. Maybe…just maybe that will be the straw that stiffens the spine of enough Albertans and Saskatchewanians to do what should have been done 30 years ago.
I have no interest in a Canada that would elect a Justin or Scheer and I will NOT be voting for either of them.
Good luck to all and best wishes.
Well put. Liberals think Conservatives need to be elected occassionally, every few terms, just to straighten out the books. That makes them unpopular which keeps the Liberals in power for another few terms.
Note how the Ontario liberals ran against Mike Harris for 20 years; now the feds are running against “Harper”.
JohnBoy
First Comment that has made sense on this whole disgusting Issue. I believe I too will vote for Max. I personally could give a rats (_i_) about Trudeau and anything EAST of the Mb-Ont Border….including family that lives there (perpetual NPC Liberal Voters).
Long LOng overdue for the West to go it alone…and I dis-include the Lower Mainland/YVR Island from that – Let the BIg One take them….
What is truly needed in this country is a complete RE-Opening of the Canadian Constitution…the one that Garantees ZERO Fkn Rights for Canadian Citizens and pretty much enshrines the perpetual Dictatorship for a Majority win of ANY Party. Given that will NEVER EVER Happen, we out west must go it alone….there really is NO OTHER CHOICE.
I, like a majority of Albertans, didnt vote for this Vacuous Treasonous phuque. As soon as we heard the name Trudeau as an MP in 2008, we Instinctively knew – in our SOULS, that this little Pampered Gooph was bad news….
In that, He has not disappointed …
95%, if not more of our debt that’s been added since his election, has gone overseas to predominantly ISLAMIC Countries to promote Islamic Ideals and Sharia law. SEEMS to me, his activities vis a vis those of Islamic belief, are enough to convict him of TREASON.
That I would live to see that happen…..? priceless.
The last time the libranos had conservatives in disarray they won 3 consecutive elections. Twice in that stretch they won 99/100 seats in Ontario alone.
So confident was da liddle thief that one of the elections was a snap early call that the libranos won easily.
I like Max but his greatest contribution will be to siphon off votes on the right and deliver them to the libranos.
Max cant win. His traction in the west will be zero. He’s seen as another fwenchman from quebek.
Bolsonaro couldn’t win. Trump couldn’t win. Brexit couldn’t win. Now Max cannot win?
It’s no longer about who has the best chance to lead to a conservative majority and that’s not good enough anymore!
2019 is about who can lead us now here in Canada with Canadians issues and not Globalist.
This is why I am voting Max for he is the only strong leader
Until term limits are put into place and politicians are bound by law to balance budgets unless Extreme National Security is invoked, the quick decline of Canadistan will continue.
The future is dark.
The folks in power will never vote for term limits. They’re too busy milking the system for all they can get.
He’s trying to make the case that Canada needs more tax revenue to clear the way for carbon tax and estate taxes.
His plan is to use this money to pay a basic income to his new voter base (new immigrants, refugees, foreign students etc) and gain a structural electoral advantage, just like California.
At the same time, he and Gerald Butts are trying to put a choke hold on Canada’s biggest industry, oil, by quietly implementing the Leap Manifesto.
Doing any of this as the head of a country is irresponsible.
Doing all of this at once is insanity.
Carbon tax and estate tax? Unfortunately he won’t stop there.
If re-elected he’ll raise income taxes a lot. Key selling point? It’s only on the wealthiest 1%.
Next is a wealth tax. You pay 1% of your total wealth each year. Add up your property value (house, cottage, farm etc.), your savings, and all investments, and send 1% of that each year to Ottawa. Heck he may even hit pension funds! Again the key selling point will be it is only a paltry 1%.
Agree the purpose is to have a guaranteed basic income for all adults. On the plus side it might solve the illegal immigration problem in the US as many will want the basic income and bypass the US. Sarcasm. 🙁
Im awaiting new FUEL Standards…..
What is the EASIEST WAY to scam more $$$ from Canadians than hitting them at the pumps…?? Not by A tax increase per se, but by making our FUEL less “capable” so to speak.
And that is easily accomplished at Zero Cost to Government other than a bill mandating 20-25% Ethanol in our Gasolines….and sold to the most gullible of us as an Environmental Initiative.
End result given ethanol has significatntly less BTU per Gallon/Litre of Fuel, is that with those percentages, you will lose ~15% in mileage and as such have to fill up that more often. THAT is where they will make their money…..EXTRA TAX $$$ from every Extra Tank full of the approximate 30,000,000 Gas Tanks in th country..?? do the math…..
(why do ya think Costco Fuel is so much cheaper. eh.? You may wanna do a manual calculation – you’ll find you get less mileage from their fuel.)
So, If I’ve thought of this..?? – you can be goddamnd sure Butts and his Leap Manifesto gang, have as well . I Fully expect to see Climate Barbie promoting this BS scam this year.
Lots more taxaction room coming, they’re just getting started on their sunny ways, just society philosopher kingdom:
TFSA tax
RRSP tax
Mortgage helper tax
Principal residence tax
Wealth (iow not poor) tax
Junk food and soda tax
We’re still going broke tax
With CO2 at only 5% of the atmosphere – transactions of failure air tax
For appealing to your worst instincts tax
Marginal tax rates over 50% on incomes over $100K, just like Uncle Jean
Massively higher debt just like daddy did (more debt than both world wars combined btw)
Massively lower economic growth with no young boomers to prop up statist excess, unlike daddy had, tax
IMF, UN, IPCC, not necessarily in that order, tax
Thanks to the most economically brain dead sheeple ever being led to slaughter and certain serfdom tax
And finally, partition tax
Not to take away from your point, that would be 0.04% Carbon dioxide in the atmosphere presently.
Beer, in that turd’oh was voted in shows just how immature and disconnected from reality the voters are. I my personal life I have made a few friends distance themselves form me because they do not like the truth. Every so called conservative who did not like Harper voice an emotional reason, not one policy reason was expressed by any one. I was told I need to have my head checked for supporting Harper, even after pointing the turds total failure as a political part leader. TurD’Oh is a disaster, the voters are a bigger disaster, including some in here. If people don’t know and are uninformed, or intellectually incapable, then listen to others, instead of voicing your own opinions
I cannot tolerate any more of Trudeau’s breathless emoting about how great they are and how terrible Stephen Harper was.
Someone needs to tell him Harper is not running, if he were we would be very lucky, the people could see the difference after having the a phony pony for PM with incompetent advisers and not enough smarts to sort good advice from bad. This country is being run by a group of agenda driven jerks. It will not turn out well if we stay stupid and fall for it again.
Foreign Affairs is a mess, Immigration is a mess and the Environment file is being handled by someone who has no clue on the subject. Our kids are being brainwashed from Kindergarten to the Halls of higher learning.
Still we have people out of touch with what’s going on, too busy vaping and getting high. It’s all part of the problem for responsible people.
This year’s election is one of the most critical we’ve had in memory, it will make or break this country. We need to vote for the party with a chance to form government…..it’s not Max and it’s certainly not the NDP.
No
We need to vote for the best leader period.
That is Max btw by a long shot…
I happen to believe it a sin to die rich. You can’t take it with you, and if you did your job right, your children won’t need the money, and won’t be loyal to you out of expectation of reward.
If Charles Trudeau had willed his fortune to the truly needy, Pierre would have had to find honest employment much earlier in life, and Canada would have been spared a great deal of misery.
“I happen to believe it a sin to die rich”
If you have been successful in life what other way can you die?
The fact that PET was a communist should never be blaimed on those who came before him.
PET was never able to get over the stupid stuff the Jesuits taught him.
Jordan Peterson explains Price’s Law.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmUdcWk6Vfw&vl=en
PET was born into privilege. Then again, so was Marx, actually he married into it.
The rich kids are the ones who say it is a sin to die rich, but they have absolved themselves and their hypocrisy of course.
What others do with their property is none of your business.
Nothing stopping you AC.
Get ‘r dun.
I’ve read the comments this morning and they are very interesting to say the least . I agree with Liz J that this is will be a very crucial election come October . Knee jerk reactions will do more harm than good if we truly want to rid ourselves of that cabal of idiots in ottawa . Quoting Liz J ” We need to vote for the party with a chance to form government .” To me that says it all and it should be our only focus . Save your powder for another day because if things go south next fall its going to get mighty ugly …..
William, while what Liz J notes is all well & fine, realistically is Liberal-lite any better than Liberal? I’m not sure. Are we merely exacerbating the problem?
On one hand (the optimistic one) I want to say yes, it is better, let’s get Scheep in & The Dope out. However, I can’t shake the feeling that we’re just moving from the frying pan into the fire.
If so and, on the other hand (the realistic one), are we just better off sucking it up for 4 more years of post-national virtue signalling & basic Prog stupidity, letting the country hit rock bottom faster under Juthdin & moving forward then?
This election posts a quandary for me. I want to be free of the prick but what are our options?
Turdeauites are not liberal per se, they are leftists like Nutley in Alberta. In Alberata we thought the debate was between Conservative and Wild Rose. Instead centre voters abandoned both and went for Nutley. She played her cards perfectly (i.e. kept her real policies quiet) during the election and captured much of the centrist vote. Turdeau plays the same game.
Max will split the vote. If someone wishes to vote for Max, I’m fine with that, but recognize you may get someone (Turdeau) who is far far to the left of Max’s positions. If you can live with Turdeau running the country, feel free to vote for Max.
Stop with the Sheer Fear
I am voting for Max because he is the strongest pro Canada leader we have.
Why I am not voting for Sheer
Sheer is pro UN period
It doesn’t matter if it’s Liberal lite or whatever you wish to call the Conservative Party today. What does matter and it’s all that matters, is we get rid of the gang we have running the country now. They are the most insidious regime we’ve had in memory, most of them are incompetents, the rest are toadying to the top advisor(s) without the guts or knowledge to know what’s good or bad for the country.
The cabinet was switched and it sure highlighted how bereft of capable people they are.
Sad to think we have come to this at a time when there are so many important issues facing us domestically and around the world we have with people in power who are not showing the smarts to deal with them and have a good outcome.
Say what you will about PM Harper, he had a good grasp on all the big issues. I know the Conservatives have a better bench right now than the Liberals by a long shot. I could not in good conscience vote for any party but the Conservatives, I care about the country.
I love my country and in good conscience I can only vote for the most pro Canada leader.
Hello Max
Andy Who? He is not opposing Trudeau, only saying he will do the same things differently. The opposition to Trudeau this election is from Ford.
Biker….depending on where in the Country you are I guess will make a differnence.
Im a Long Long time Harper Fan and Conservative. I see nothing close to what that Man was as a leader in Scheer. Not only has he endorsed the Utter Bullshit of the Paris Accords, he also is a cheerleader for monopolistic enterprises: Dairy – Air Space – Digital Communications. All entities that Bone Canadians up the (_i_) every chance they get.
ENOUGH. Being an Albertan – Being unemployed – Being majorly Disgusted with that 2 Bit Globalist TREASONOUS Phuque in Ottawa… I, like many see that there is only 1 Solution to our Regional Troubles. To cecede and become a REPUBLIC. a TRUE democracy…not the BS thing we have going here with a Constitution that garantees SFA for Citizens and everything for Wannabe Dictators.
In Oct I will vote for…….. MAX.
Right there with ya and I live in Ontario.
Your powder will be illegal just as your guns.
Vote for the Party with the strongest Canada first leader not the UN
As a rule, one should disbelieve both debt and surplus projections provided by any government. There are lies, damn lies, statistics, and government projections.
That said, he’s probably a lot closer to the truth than most. And JT doesn’t give a rat’s ass about other people’s money, because he’s never had to live on his earnings.
I would like to vote for Max, but honestly, the best chance to get the Liberals out this year is not the PP. I believe our choice is “Liberal Lite” or continuing on the path to Venezuela North. Of course, it may make no difference either way, but at least we can turf the clods…for now.
People have to vote strategically. Let’s see what happens in BC.
Than just vote Liberal than it would mean a quicker death have you no humanity?
One thing Turdeau has done in spades is screw up Canada’s foreign relations. Everyone hates us. Trudeau said “Canada’s back.” Harper had the respect of the world and Turdeau comes along and made India hate us. India doesn’t hate anyone other than Pakistan and us. He made the US hate us and China hate us. The third generation Eurofascists like us, just as their house of cards is falling. The new leaders of Europe will hate us. Turdeau has done so much in 3 1/2 years. It looks like he has no clue. Pierre was devious and evil. Justin is just plain damn stupid.
Don’t rule out Justin’s evil completely, scar.
Justin is a real douchebag.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoRprPRWsAA4y_K?format=jpg
https://www.ratehub.ca/prime-mortgage-rate-history
I think he is going to out do his father. In canada, before Trudeau is done, you will see mortgage rates higher than 30%.
It will be cheaper to buy a house, in canada, using your credit card, than taking out a mortgage.
I think he will get it done THIS YEAR. Trudeau is DA MAN.
I am busy laughing at the religious arguments of LizJ, Bob Daye, and others.
“I’d love to vote for Max but that would be irresponsible, it will assuredly put the incompetent Trudeau Cabal back in power.”
“A vote for Max will split the anti-Turdeau vote.”
“I agree completely. I am so dismayed by what Max did – and I do like him better than Scheer, and I wish he had won the leadership. ”
Remain faithful to the pope, or big brother! The party is kind and benevolent! Remain faithful to the party!
The party is more important than anything!
Folks, when you see a religious argument, just don’t bother. Science cannot reason with faith.
You can change the way you think, change the way you vote, change what you support; or you can line up for more of the same.
Science and faith are not enemies, Kevin. Only loonies think that way.
Perhaps I’ve missed the religious elements in the posts above.
Splitting the vote will allow Justin back in.
How would that be justified politically if not spiritually?
One shouldn’t have to “like” the leader of the party one votes for. By that reasoning, Harper, for all his faults was likely as good as it can get in this deranged dominion. I don’t like Scheer, in fact I can barely tolerate most so called conservatives and I reminded myself why, after being on the board of our Conservative EDA only to resign last fall in disgust at their lack of principles and guts. I will still likely hold my nose and vote for them unless it’s clear that Max’s supporters have killed the local Conservative’s chances after which I may vote Max or Libertarian as at that point it won’t mater as I live in a mostly brain dead NDP riding.
Back to the topic: You won’t see anything on the CBC but partisan leftist and green propaganda 24/7/365 (Harper’s failure).
John, I resigned from our CPC EDA when it was made clear that the Board would have no role other than listening to our MP’s report on the goings on in Ottawa. Harper gutted the riding association in return for ‘silence’ from those rednecks who asked embarassing questions. Embarassing questions which were fundamental planks of the original Reform movement. This was kinda funny as that MP survived a political carpetbagger who tried to get the nomination when we ran our Reform candidate in the 2nd election Reform undertook. There was no doubt we would win that election as our membership was over 1700 and we had the riding well organized. This MP went on to win 5 elections. He should have remembered the principals of Reform and the value of grass roots involvement. It was our riding that sent a letter to Harper to challenge for the merged Alliance/PC party.
Many of us feel very betrayed. For those who condemn Max I can only say we heard the same thing in Reform. We would ensure a Liebel election as we split the conservative vote. All I can say is that we elected our Reform MP in the 2nd election we contested. We defeated a sitting PC member. If there is no room for debate of ideas within a Party then why support it. If Scheer cannot address the concerns of a significant % of the membership then what kind of leader is he and how strong is the philosophy of the Party? I suggest the philosophy is not strong and is non-existent with many. The ‘carpetbaggers’ I mentioned above form a large portion of the leadership.
@CT
@John Chittick
I keep hearing that during the CPC vote for the new leader there were 130,000 card carrying CPC members able to vote however there were actually 138,000 votes. I also heard that the ballots were immediately destroyed following the count. Wouldn’t that be rigged, if true???
harper? you mean harper the control freak demagogue?
the pryck did it to himself AND Canadistan by paving the way out of disgust for his methods:
https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2015/08/10/Harper-Abuses-of-Power-Final/
the link is 3 1/2 yrs old and still #3 in the search.
harper was a control freak bully who not only *allowed* mandarins to clam up but ORDERED it.
I’d rather read used toilet paper than anything from “The Tyee”.
@CT
“..If there is no room for debate of ideas within a Party then why support it. If Scheer cannot address the concerns of a significant % of the membership then what kind of leader is he and how strong is the philosophy of the Party?..”
And there lies the crux of the matter.
Scheer is a Gutless Wanker….a Liberal wearing a blue tie. He is in FAVOUR of maintaining Monopolies such as Digital Comm., Airspace and Dairy – things which Cost Canadians Dearly when it is perfectly CLEAR that Honest Capitalism – ie: “Open – Honest competition” would cut those costs Significantly.
He is also in favour of the Paris Climate Accords.
He’s been BOUGHT.
I will Not Vote for that man. Besides, by the time my vote is counted, its all over but the crying….
At this point, of all the people who have thrown their hats in the ring, Bernier is the only one that appears to be different.
If you think canada can be saved, then Bernier is likely your only bet. If you think canada is over (as I do), then very quick unilateral independence is the only way to save yourself and your region. The pessimistic view that I have, if your province doesn’t get out this year, it will already be too late to save yourself.
Should probably do strategic voting just like the left does. Since Qbec is tribal more than any other province, maybe they might vote for Max en masse. They don’t like Justin from my read. They did vote for Jack but will completely yank the plug for Jagmeet. Max in Quebec and Alberta, Scheer in Ontario, the maritimes will vote for their entitlements. BC, hopefully will be too stoned to vote.
Bernier supporters who don’t want Trudeau back in can have it both ways, within reason imho.
Max has a good chance to siphon off Grit votes in Atlantic Canada and Quebec, where the CPC is nowhere anyway.
They can also vote for Bernier in rock solid CPC ridings safe their vote doesn’t help the statist Grits and Dippers.
He might even sneak a few wins in to assist in the ejection of Laurentian Justin’s Grits.
In 905 ridings, and BC, assuming Bernier’s candidates have clout, Bernier supporters may consider strategic votes to keep Grits out.
Just my two cents, a ha’penny after taxes. Like the Democrats say, vote early, vote often.
in rock solid CPC ridings ‘safely’.
That’s what lots of Albertans thought too. In came the NDP with a big majority as the vote was split.
Getting rid of Turdeau should be the priority.
one hell of a lot of words here today and not one so called Canadian with enough balls to do anything about it. please see my post re the latest totalitarian police state law issued from Ottawa. tell me you don’t want to hang these bastards. of course you don’t you are civilized Canadians don’t ya know. idiots.
I learnt my lesson from supporting Mulroney and will not support any politician from Quebec even one who is supposedly right of centre, so no to Maxime. No to Scheer as well since he supports supply management. I would like to support a party which pledged itself to a five year pause in immigration.
Oh please judge a whole people over sleepy corrupt politicians somehow they have infected all parts of Canada so you must now hate all Canadians as well.
Grow up
To the MAX.
I am with C.T and Kevin.
I supported reform,with serious amounts of my own money.
Briefly I had hope,we could reform the kleptocracy that Canada has become.
I no longer give a damn who wins the Federal Governance stakes.
There is no measurable difference between the Liberals and the so called conservatives.
I will vote for Max and expect Justine to regain power.
I consider the reign of Justine The Incompetent as a gift for Independent Western Canada.
A second term for these fools and bandits will hammer home what Westerners already know in their hearts.
Contemporary Confederated Canada has no place for us except as milk cows.
The contempt from the east has become so normal we no longer even react to it.Lying is so normal that Eastern Canadians proudly reward it.
Financially we cannot afford to stay bound to the wastrels of the east.
God knows we have enough parasites with delusions of adequacy here.
Those who try to plan ahead and leave their children a future,do not commit the treason of bequeathing debt to children unborn.
Nor do we plan a lawless,valueless wasteland as their inheritance.
Our current politicians have no values,no standards and thus are interchangable while changing nothing.
If Max was not running separate of the Progressive Con’s,would anyone even be discussing the appalling abuse of our “immigration system”?
Which of course will be designated hate speech as soon as the Liberals start losing the argument.Oh right..nevermind.
Thanks to the surrender of their national responsibilities to the United Nations, our efeet elites will now declare any attempt to discuss our mutual future as Hatred.Everything is hate speech when they lose.
Every one of our 3 current party leaders support the madness and bureaucratic powergrab that are the Human Rights Commissions.
Truth is no defence.
Bang on John..!!
The same Canadians who are facing insolvency now are the same Canadians who voted for Justin despite his balanced budget flub and the many, many other things he’s done wrong.
These people deserve poverty.
Call me a meany if you want but there is no other way.
When the UN currently controls your federal government and some provincial Hi Alberta and the paid off media sings from the Globalist songs.
By the time the actual election comes most Canadians will have been awoken, remember that Globalist Obama interfered in our election.
Trump has plans and there huge.
I rejoined Federal Conservatives to vote for Max. It does not matter.
I supported him throughout the leadership race. It does not matter.
I was disappointed he lost. It does not matter.
I remain convinced he would make a much better leader than Scheer. It does not matter.
Max is Canada’s Ross Perot. It matters.
In the end, unless we are lucky and Scheer gets Patrick Browned, I will hold my nose and support Scheer. I was not willing to do so for Brown, he betrayed conservative principles too far to earn my vote. Scheer primarily needs an implantation of testicles. Still, neutered Scheer is order of magnitude better than PM Pussy Hat and his junta.
And Max? Sorry you’re in the way and not helping getting rid of the junta. The option to lead was sadly denied to you. Now you should either follow or get the fekc out of the way.
Exactly right, we have only one option to get rid of the present mess of incompetence laced with arrogance. We’ve had enough of this breathless play acting from Trudeau, scripts do not provide answers, apparently the Cabal don’t think we need answers, they will do what they like, they will stick with their agenda and count on the stupidity vote.
It’s up to us to talk to our friends and family and anyone who will listen to do the job and oust this Cabal with a pseudo leader….an empty suit with a famous name tag.
Sheer is Trudeau there is no drama difference
If that was the case and both were merely empty suits (Trudeau certainly is) then we cannot do worse by having people different than Gerald Butts pulling the strings.
I found Watcher’s comments interesting the last time Kate had the topic the Western Independence on! Another term of Justin Trudeau’s Liberals will completely destroy Saskatchewan, Alberta, and Manitoba! Watcher suggested UDI and even though it has been set up for separate land masses; I feel it would be a great way to get the separation of the West started! A declaration of Independence and an online way to sign up could start the ball rolling!!
The Canada that I loved has been broken by division politics of the Liberals and I don’t see a fix, with the possible exception of an elected Senate giving each Province and Territory ,say 2 senators!!! Even at that I feel it is too late!!
We must vote strategically to get rid of Justin Trudeau and the Liberals if we split the Conservative vote , he will for sure win! We need time to set up our Independence!!
Definitely an elected Senate and also Supreme Court judges, they play partisan games with no accountability to the people.
Trudeau/his managers disowning Senators is a joke, they are Liberals when it counts.
It might be a good idea to get serious and get the ball rolling right now ahead of the election on Western independence….make Trudeau and his “brain” trust squirm around that and see how the Eastern provinces deal with it. They may wake up to the reality of Western alienation. Quebec is already being catered to, Justin is worming his way to getting votes in his home province, we will pay. Anything they desire will be granted and we know they don’t want the pipeline, all about environmental crap while they flush raw sewage into the St Lawrence River. Hypocrites of the first order.
We ca’t wait, Trudeau is out with his scripts campaigning on our dime, tossing money around a la Kathleen Wynne of Ontario fame, she left a holy mess, record debt.
Then there’s the carbon tax….we get back more than we pay….yeah, right after they spend it on their special interests. This needs to be a big issue for the election as well, its a farce.
“..We need time to set up our Independence…”
Really..?
We’ve had 30 Fkn years to figure it out…. We do NOT need any more time.
What we do need to do ASAP is start collecting our OWN TAX’s, Our OWN Pension Funds, OUR Own EI etc, Set up Our Own Police Force….So, well Ok, if that takes some time..?
So beit.
Rgardless of Who wins the next Fed election – Not 1 Goddamned thing will change. The EAST will continue to rule Canada and we in the West will always have NO say.
THAT must End and the only way is to Cecede.
Get the ball rolling then! Really…?
How about when they make our guns illegal we all drive and take down Ottawa.