ISIS defeated in last major stronghold
Pro-government forces defeated the Islamic State group in its last major stronghold in Syria, state media and a monitoring group reported on Sunday, leaving the militants to defend just strips of desert territory in the country and a besieged pocket outside the capital, Damascus.
Since curtailing Operation Empty Chair, the anti-ISIS forces have done remarkably well. Odd that.
Not to quibble, but this is the FOURTH report of an ISIS “last major stronghold” … so what’s the over/under on how many “last major stronghold” reports will ultimately be proclaimed by our betters in the MSM?
True … yet the Jr. Varsity in my high school were all Sophomores. 16yo Sophomores. Who JUST received their drivers licenses, and tended to get into many automobile accidents. Even the Jr. Varsity can be dangerous to living things.
they should never be treated like JVs.
Yes Obama called them JV. That doesn’t mean that he didn’t want them to be successful and receive their PHDs in terrorism.
It is amazing what can be accomplished when you get rid of the traitor that occupied the White House for 8 years.
Exactly!
See! We can agree on some things.
The trend started while Obama was in office. ISIS was in retreat from at least as far back as early 2016. More confusion of correlation with causation.
“The trend started while Obama was in office.”
Obama wouldn’t even bomb the oil tankers carrying crude oil to Turkey. The Russians started it. I never was too sure which side Obama was on.
So since Syria is largely safe now (by Syrian standards at least), does that mean we can start sending the rapefugees back?
Yeah I recall another trend that started under your beloved anointed Ogabe, it was casually refereed to as Arab Spring. Let me guess that too had nothing to do with US policy?
scar;
Trump won’t get any credit for the new strategy brought in under his tenure but did not expect otherwise.
You are bang on about the oil tankers being bombed effectively by the Russians. It does make you wonder who was sharing the revenue prior to the bombing?
The Syrian war can only be written as a USA foreign policy failure due to ineffective leadership by Obama. Not all his responsibility as IMO the Saudis were the instigators and they are starting see feel the Iranian pressure in the ME. No sympathy for the Saudis but some empathy for the Iranians. Saddam Hussien nearly took them out, killing millions of Iranians, but they beat him off. Should anyone wonder why they want a bomb?
When the government of Sri Lanka crushed the Tamil terrorists (LTTE) the game was over and Tamil suicide bombings ended. It took them 24 years though.
This victory over ISIS is not the end of war but the completion of a successful battle. Wahhabi maniacs will scatter and conduct their murderous rampage elsewhere. Meanwhile many will die, mostly Muslims — the primary victims of terrorism.
“Meanwhile many will die, mostly Muslims — the primary victims of terrorism.”
You play with fire you get burned…
Live by the sword etc…
Circle of life Simba…
Now if they could kindly keep mooselimbing each other and stop culturally enriching others.
“No sympathy for the Saudis but some empathy for the Iranians. Saddam Hussien nearly took them out, killing millions of Iranians, but they beat him off. Should anyone wonder why they want a bomb?”
None wonders, I say give it to them until they glow in the dark.
Good recall Lance.
No. There is no reason to believe the Arab Spring originated in US policy.
“Trump won’t get any credit for the new strategy brought in under his tenure but did not expect otherwise.”
What new strategy? What are you talking about?
Trump’s policy Re ISIS is very similar to Obama’s with some tweaks and the results have been similar: slow crushing.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-14/bombshell-report-confirms-us-coalition-struck-deal-isis
Bombshell Report Confirms US Coalition Struck A Deal With ISIS
Mattis’ declaration of an open ended military commitment in Syria came the same day that the BBC confirmed that the US and its Kurdish SDF proxy (Syrian Democratic Forces) cut a deal with ISIS which allowed for the evacuation of possibly thousands of ISIS members and their families from Raqqa.
According to yesterday’s bombshell BBC report:
The BBC has uncovered details of a secret deal that let hundreds of Islamic State fighters and their families escape from Raqqa, under the gaze of the US and British-led coalition and Kurdish-led forces who control the city. A convoy included some of IS’s most notorious members and – despite reassurances – dozens of foreign fighters. Some of those have spread out across Syria, even making it as far as Turkey.
Though it’s always good when the mainstream media belatedly gives confirmation to stories that actually broke months prior, the BBC was very late to the story. ISIS terrorists being given free passage by coalition forces to leave Raqqa was a story which we and other outlets began to report last June, and which Moon of Alabama and Al-Masdar News exposed in detail a full month prior to the BBC report.
And astoundingly, even foreign fighters who had long vowed to carry out attacks in Europe and elsewhere were part of the deal brokered under the sponsorship of the US coalition in Syria. According to the BBC report:
Unme:
“The trend started while Obama was in office. ISIS was in retreat from at least as far back as early 2016. More confusion of correlation with causation”
The trend STARTED in 2012, when President Obama foolishly and against his military advice withdrew all the US Troops from Iraq. Does anyone think that ISIS would have dared to leave Syria and attack Iraq if there were US Troops in Iraq?.
The blood of thousands of Iraqi Christians, Yazhidis and Sunni, and Shia are on his hands.
Oh so Ogabe and Hitlery had no input in ousting Mubarak and Lybia bombed herself?
Well congratulations are in order to our Defense Minister Harjit Sajjan who I am sure was instrumental in the strategic planning for this victory. I am looking forward to his next great achievement in Military Planning.
This is completely believable.
Why should the Kurds lose their troops killing ISIS Fighters that will kill in Europeans in Europe or Turks in Turkey? What have any European Country or Turkey done to HELP the Kurds or Kurdistan?
If those countries want to get rid of ISIS fighters and terrorists, then they can damn well bloody their holier than thou hands. They won’t even do anything to the terrorists and criminals in their own cities. Why should the Kurds bleed for their pusillanimity?
… the anti-ISIS forces have done remarkably well.
Yeah, kinda like doing away with laws and saying there’s no crime…
ISIS was the occupier of a huge amount of territory under Obama, it is impossible to say they were in retreat in a strategic sense. They were certainly still terrorizing innocent civilians. Now that wild dogs are feasting on rotting ISIS corpses, they will terrorize no one. Good riddance; well done, President Trump and General Mattis.
Indeed the biggest failure of otherwise successful Trump’s policy in the Middle East was not recognizing the Kurdistan. Kurds have been the only loyal ally of civilization, among the most effective anti-ISIS forces and the only, mooselimbs protecting the Christians and other non-mooselimbs there. For that alone they deserve recognition. Instead Trump caved in to enemies in Iraq, Iran and Turkey and refused to acknowledge the Kurds. Huge policy blunder and a disgusting betrayal.
“The trend STARTED in 2012, when President Obama foolishly and against his military advice withdrew all the US Troops from Iraq. Does anyone think that ISIS would have dared to leave Syria and attack Iraq if there were US Troops in Iraq?. ”
Yes. Why wouldn’t they?
Pulling out of Iraq was one of Obama’s few good decisions. There is no reason at all to think ISIS wouldn’t have taken over what it did if a residual force were still there. It just would have gotten US forces killed. To believe otherwise is magical thinking, and is exactly the sort of mindset that got Obama elected in the first place. Sorry not interested in endlessly occupying foreign sand buckets.
“Oh so Ogabe and Hitlery had no input in ousting Mubarak and Lybia bombed herself? ”
The Egyptian people ousted Mubarak.
The ME has lots of fringe players that reaped US $$$ .. Trump just changed the rules of engagement demanding RESULTS….ISIS was a payday for independent Contractors…Less than 12 months and ISIS is in the trash bin of history… More results & wins Trump,,, Now get Niger…
“The Egyptian people ousted Mubarak.”
That’s the best you got? There was no white house support for that move? No endorsement of Pisslamic Bros? It had northing to do with what was happening elsewhere?
And again Lybia bombed herself, is that it?
So called “US ally and NATO member” Turkey – well, at least the President’s brother.
Assad, Turkey and Iran were all buying ISIS oil under Obungles tenure, Russian put a stop to that. USA forces were hampered buy many things, obungles ROE were the most damning of those things. Obungles manmdated that a “environmentally friendly” fuel for jet fighters be used, at the cost of $136 per USA gallon, they couldn’t afford to fly!!!
Unme, still practicing being an IDIOT I see
Once you remove the muzzle, no one kills more effectively and efficiently than white Christian conservatives. KUDOs to the fighting men and women who kicked Obama’s army off the planet.
I trust that when there are too many rabid Muslims in North America we will have a replay of what just happened to the JV team only by concerned, armed citizens protecting their wives and daughters.
Something to look forward to nez paw?
It takes a Sikh to say what needs to be said in Canada!
I wonder if the UnMe troll is going to show his racism and say he’s full of sh*t?
“Should soldiers kill ISIS fighters recruited from Canada before they can return?”
“…our main priority is making sure that they don’t become a threat to Canada”
https://globalnews.ca/news/3866619/should-soldiers-kill-isis-fighters-recruited-from-canada-before-they-can-return/
“There was no white house support for that move? No endorsement of Pisslamic Bros?”
Maybe. Pretty meaningless when weighed against the mass of Egyptian people who wanted Mubarak out.
The one good point in this stupid comment chain is Obama’s awful ROEs and their removal; however, the fact remains that ISIS was in retreat long before Tangerine Dream came to power.
“no one kills more effectively and efficiently than white Christian conservatives.”
Pfft. That is some heady tribal chest-thumping. Ever hear of Gurkhas? Most of the anti-ISIS killing has not been by WCCs. Kurds were best at it.
“Maybe. Pretty meaningless when weighed against the mass of Egyptian people who wanted Mubarak out.”
More leftist amnesia. Nope sorry the mass of Egyptian people meant nothing. Once the disaster that was Ogabe’s policy was realized, the peoples’ choice aka Pisslamic Brotherhood got removed by the power brokers in Egypt and Mubarak’s Minime (just less civilized) took power. Mubarak could have stayed in power, and Egypt would be better off, had in not been for Ogabe’s policy. That is all on him.
Same for Lybia that you’re consistently dodging.
You’re a liar and a fraud.
“no one kills more effectively and efficiently than white Christian conservatives.”
The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion (to which few members of other civilizations were converted) but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.
Samuel Huntington, The Clash of Civilizations and the Remaking of World Order
Your neighbors are right-wing. I bet money on it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3C3v9xt6ZLk
Without question Syria has become more stable. This is a good thing. And yes, it means that the refugee problem is less and maybe some can even be sent back though I wouldn’t count on it. And yes, I credit Trump for a more pragmatic approach which produced this result.
However the future of that whole area is still uncertain. Oh hell, what am I saying, the whole area is a huge f’ing mess.
Neither the Iraqis nor the Iranians nor the Turks want the Kurds to have a state. So it won’t happen.
There are major problems in Yemen …. war…. mass starvation and disease. Arab meddling again.
And Turkey, dreaming of glories past … well on it’s way to being a Caliphate. Hope the nukes have been taken away.
Sudan… another Arab mess. Somolia, Eritrea, Ethiopia.
It’s all in the name of Religion doncha know.
Wrong, because of our superiority of everything that counts we were better at organized violence, but more importantly we were better of culture and society. That is why the better the non western culture and society is the more it emulates the occident.
“Neither the Iraqis nor the Iranians nor the Turks want the Kurds to have a state. So it won’t happen.”
Israel happened, no reason for Kurdistan not to happen.
“There are major problems in Yemen …. war…. mass starvation and disease.”
These are problems? A self cleaning oven is not a problem.
“The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion (to which few members of other civilizations were converted) but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.
Samuel Huntington, The Clash of Civilizations and the Remaking of World Order”.
Tools and logistics being beneath your consideration?
Those of us who make things are usually adverse to breaking things, until our patience is exhausted.
As the doughboy’s demonstrated, destruction may not come easy, but if you know how to build it,then you know how to break it.
And our religion,at which you repeated sneer, ever stopped to think that the tenants of Christianity are the muzzle?
Our enemies are given every opportunity to demonstrate their intentions.
Watch Poland and Germany,which one will slip the muzzle first?
The obvious stupidity of these Jihadis staggers me,I look at their feeble attempts to kill,main and spread terror and I sneer at their inbred idiocy.
Sure proof they never built a damn thing in their miserable lives.
And when we turn on our current leaders and the parasites they protect, we will be called murders,genocidal thugs and extremists,,but you think such phrases will stop angry anglosaxons with a clearly,self identified, enemy?
History repeats.
Ethnic cleansing is a tradition.
Going all the way back to plains apes.
We may need this fellow, King of Poland, John III Sobieski, or someone like him at some point. Fellows like Trudeau are giving the store away.
John, it’s called the rise of the middle class. This rise allows for spare time of the middle class, which in turn causes demands and minds to create to fill demands. You are right, at some point the producers will have has enough, and will take back control of their lives, by what ever means necessary.
While you may believe that blowing the Kurds is a good idea, it’s not. Recognize Kurdistan and you alienate Syria, Iraq, Iran, and Turkey. 1918-1923 was the time to sort out Turkey’s minorities but no-one had the stomach.
Why is it so hard to put the fear of death into people.
We’re all just a bunch of crazy bastards I guess.
But ya gotta play by the rules.
Colon, things go started in 2009 when obungles refused to support the “green revolution” in Iran. Obngles then supported the brotherhood, who also had a hand in destabilizing Syria. Obungles and hitlery’s hands are in all the conflicts in MENA, including the gaza and west bank.
“Mubarak could have stayed in power, and Egypt would be better off, had in not been for Ogabe’s policy. That is all on him. ”
You’re a delusional moron. Please explain exactly how Obama forced Mubarak out? This should be good.
” Recognize Kurdistan and you alienate Syria, Iraq, Iran, and Turkey.”
That’s a price I’m more than willing to pay.
‘The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion (to which few members of other civilizations were converted) but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. ”
This is belied by the facts of history. Spain was by far the worst most violent colonizer. The Spanish Empire died young. Britain had a far more just system of governance. It lasted.
“Recognize Kurdistan and you alienate Syria, Iraq, Iran, and Turkey”
OMG anything but that. Syria and Iraq have been taught by recent experiences that it is not in their interest to be alienated. If they need another lesson, fine by me, there apparently are a few stones standing on top of one another left. Just let’s not try any nation building bull$hi+ after that. Turkey is rapidly running out of friends. Keeps acting like an enemy towards the west while pissing off Putin at the same time. They ain’t exactly in a position to try anything against a potential western contingent stationed in Kurdistan with a clear mandate to support a loyal ally. As for aliening Iran? OMG anything but that. Not Iran, they have been such a staunch beacon of stability and reason for decades.
Do yourself a favour and run a net search for “Obama betrayal of Mubarak” see what you can find. Internet is a wonderful tool.
Enema, Iranians have been having their little anti-koranimal revolutions every few years for decades. They never get anywhere as the majority of Iranians likes their turbaned tyrants. Don’t think Ogabe’s support would have changed anything. As for the rest, agree.