I, UnNapoleon

TelegraphGender reversal surgery is on the rise, so why aren’t we talking about it?

That was the first time Prof Djordjevic had ever been contacted to perform a so-called gender reassignment “reversal” surgery. Over the next six months, another six people also approached him, similarly wanting to reverse their procedures. They came from countries all over the western world, Britain included, united by an acute sense of regret.

The initial administration of “transgender” enabling hormones, genital amputations and other surgical restructuring of healthy bodies ought to be deemed medical malpractice. Why aren’t we talking about that?

23 Replies to “I, UnNapoleon”

  1. This article is available at the National Post without the pay wall:
    http://nationalpost.com/news/world/the-new-taboo-more-people-regret-sex-change-and-want-to-detransition-surgeon-says
    This quote from the story stood out to me:

    “Following conversations with those upon whom he has helped perform reversals, Djordjevic says he has real concerns about the level of psychiatric evaluation and counselling that people receive elsewhere before gender reassignment first takes place.”

    No kidding!

  2. Kate asks:
    The initial administration of “transgender” enabling hormones, genital amputations and other surgical restructuring of healthy bodies ought to be deemed medical malpractice. Why aren’t we talking about that?
    That ship has sailed. In 2012 the American Psychiatric Association revised the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders such that “Gender Identity Disorder” recognized as a mental disorder became “Gender Dysphoria” which marks the emotional distress felt when there’s an incongruence between experienced/expressed gender and assigned gender. So with a stroke of the pen the APA legitimized a mental disorder to the extent that a doctor is more likely to be charged with medical malpractice for not enabling a transition.
    Professor Djordjevic in the article is encountering increasing numbers of patients who want to reverse the operation. An associate Psychotherapist in the field applied for a research grant at Bath Spa University to look into the phenomenon. It was turned down by the university because it was deemed politically incorrect.
    The genie’s not going to get back in the bottle.

  3. I sometimes thing that the psychiatrists and psychologists amend their list of mental disorders to suit the politics of the day and their inability to treat and cure mental illnesses like trans-genderism. If the victim group demands it and the shrinks can’t fix it they simply normalize it.

  4. Just as it ought to medical malpractice and criminal felony to mutilate healthy genitals under the color of medicine, it should be journalist malpractice to use the term gender to describe a person’s god given sex.

  5. They don’t just normalize it, but justify it as well, using the usual “if it saves one life….” line.

  6. *
    “deplorable sewer rat says… using the usual ‘if it saves one life….’ line.
    but it demonstrably doesn’t… as stated above…
    “the suicide rate for pre & post-op transsexuals is nearly identical at
    just over 40%.”

    *

  7. “Why aren’t we talking about that?” Because in many ways we have become a sick society.

  8. It’s not just “genital amputations”.
    It’s self-mutilation enabled by medical people.
    In essence, it’s the result of one’s seeing oneself as having zero value.

  9. a) I am not the least bit surprised.
    b) So NOW WHAT do you think about parents, teachers, and activists PUSHING small children toward this lifestyle fantasy?
    c) Will our transgendered military and government workers receive FREE un-trans surgery?
    d) Will Obamakkare provide FREE un-trans surgery?
    e) In a somewhat related story, I have a close friend who (along with his wife) were committed to NOT procreating children. To ensure this outcome, HE had a vasectomy. Fast-forward 25 years after his divorce, and remarriage to one of his college students (yes, he’s a college professor) … and the little girl (well … 19yo) that he married wanted kids. So he tried (repeatedly) … at great personal expense … to reverse his vasectomy. No luck. No kids from his loins (balls). Yes, some vasectomies can be reversed … but it is a crap shoot. Just imagine the crap shoot of addingadiktomy after cuttingadikfromy ?

  10. Here in Canada, one can be charged for “mis-gendering” someone who, shall we say, “crossed the floor”. If that person decides to go back, will those charges be dropped?
    On the other hand, if one referred to that person in terms of what he/she/it no longer wants to be after they’ve gone back, could one still be arrested?
    Then there’s the aspect of how the original switcheroo was financed. If it was covered by some insurance plan, will that money have to be paid back? On top of that, who’s paying or the modifications to the “renovations”?
    I’m sure the Supreme Court of Canada and Parliament will have nothing more important to do than to ponder and debate this issue. No doubt, some legal firms are going to profit handsomely from all this.

  11. Absolutely,Joe! Psychiatrists are often as loonie as some of the patients they “treat”,not cure,and as the “science ” behind their profession is roughly as sound as astrology,they go with the flow.
    Homosexuality was considered a mental illness until the late 1960’s,suddenly,as the practice became more trendy,lo and behold,it disappeared from the DSM!

  12. Isn’t it funny that the fake science of psychiatry/psychology breeds more fake science/medicine like sex change surgery. You’d almost swear that one had something to do with the other…. Nah, can’t be.

  13. DS … my friend … that statement makes you sound a bit like a loony Scientologist … Tom Cruise for example. Although I DO believe that quite a few Psycholgists tend to be more unhinged than their patients.

  14. Then, again, it was always said that psychiatrists had the highest rate of suicide among the high rate of all physicians. How will their rate compare to the percentage of transgendered male or female who will either commit suicide or detransition? Still one can only hope that parents who are presently allowing their youngster to begin down that road would first consider a visit to the psychiatrist for themselves and then make an appointment for their child once the doctor has figured out what’s wrong with them.

  15. the suicide rate for pre & post-op transsexuals is nearly identical at just over 40%
    That’s not what the literature says. You’re conflating suicide attempts with actual suicides.
    Every study says the same (obvious) thing – that mentally ill people attempt suicide at much higher rates than the general population.
    The question that seems to be largely unstudied is what the actual mortality from suicide is before transition compared to after transition. That’s the entire point that surgical transitioning as a treatment for mental illness hangs on – that it reduces long-term mortality. If it does, then it ought to be considered a legitimate option. If it increases mortality, or it makes no difference, then it is unethical to provide it as a treatment for this disorder.
    (You have to distinguish between suicide attempts and actual suicides in order to distinguish between people harming themselves for attention and people who are serious about killing themselves)

  16. and regarding the usefulness of psychiatry, one word: lobotomy.
    a torture from the worst of the middle ages glommed onto modern surgery, about 150 YEARS *after* the rest of the medical profession had adopted such things as innovations in antiseptics and anaesthesia.
    quacks. I spent about 4 months in the Hamilton (Ontario) psych hospital where I spent my time dreaming up new ways to insult and complain about their ‘standards’ of ‘treatment’.
    1 example:
    me: nurse, what year is it?
    nurse, history, you know it’s 2000.
    pause …..
    me: howcum the shrinks walk around with that sigmund freud beard?
    quacks.

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