“But we’re trying to do what’s right,” Fuller said. “We’re trying to provide products that really make a difference in people’s lives and this is one of them so if they had a different spokesperson maybe that would be better for us but I guess that’s David’s choice to do that and I took a chance on it and here we are.”
Well, it sure made a difference in at least one persons life.
Meningitis is easy to diagnose and needs immediate treatment. Only antibiotics work for bacterial meningitis and they’re “natural” and “organic”. Naturopathic treatments are for all practical purposes expensive water. They have significant placebo effects on some people but it would be totally unethical to have a placebo arm in a study looking at treatment of bacterial meningitis.
I don’t care if people don’t vaccinate their kids and just tecommend basic old vaccines. Most new vaccines are designed primarily to increase pharmaceutical industry profits and vaccine side effects outweigh benefits for the latest vaccines.
Obviously the father of the now dead child with meningitis is incapable of learning from experience and clinging to a delusional belief system rsther than anything remotely scientific
My mother in law died of cancer because the Sask medical service under the Romano government failed to treat her. I suppose that doctor should be jailed.
So … if a Christian Science believer does this … he would be facing the DEATH penalty. But if a smelly, alternative-lifestyler kills his child through willful ignorance … he is celebrated for turning to “earth medicine” or some such horsessheet
I don’t care if people don’t vaccinate their kids and just recommend basic old vaccines. Most new vaccines are designed primarily to increase pharmaceutical industry profits and vaccine side effects outweigh benefits for the latest vaccines.
Best medical advice on the issue I’ve seen in a long time.
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“a delusional belief system rather than anything remotely scientific”
a delusional belief system that killed a child… so why are the
children still living with this freak? is the first kid deductible?
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“children still living with this freak? is the first kid deductible?”
First son’s name was, ironically, Mulligan.
Loki – are you targeting flu vaccines in your comment about ‘latest vaccines’ or are you specifically referring to childhood oriented vaccinations? Just curious. No judgement here.
When it comes to common seasonal influenza, a healthy immune system is more effective than any vaccine based on what was running around Australia last winter. I’m a healthy septuagenarian and never get the ‘flu-shot’. However I do keep my vaccinations like tetanus and pertussis up-to-date.
The vaccines we got in our childhood were developed for single diseases, and were cultured by time tested methods and generally quite effective. Modern Multiple Disease Vaccines are not as effective and have more negative side effects in a greater percent of the users.
When it comes to common seasonal influenza, a healthy immune system is more effective than any vaccine based on what was running around Australia last winter. I’m a healthy septuagenarian and never get the ‘flu-shot’. However I do keep my vaccinations like tetanus and pertussis up-to-date.
The vaccines we got in our childhood were developed for single diseases, and were cultured by time tested methods and generally quite effective. Modern Multiple Disease Vaccines are not as effective and have more negative side effects in a greater percent of the users.
Yes Brian, I include influenza vaccines in my “latest vaccines” category and they should be a matter of individual choice for people. First got into researching influenza vaccines in 2009 when the H1N1 strain peaked in October before any significant supply of vaccine was available. To stretch supplies of the vaccine, squalene was added as an adjuvent to 1/10 of the usual dose of influenza vaccine and severe vaccine reactions were the predominant things we saw in people. What also intrigued me was that we had been asked to do viral swabs on people with resp infections in the summer and we were diagnosing H1N1 in people who had been sitting for hours coughing in a crowded waiting room in July 2009 whereas there was no epidemic until October. This started me on a long course of investigating vaccines and no other drug would be allowed to be released to the market without far more exhaustive testing than vaccines get.
Epidemics are highly non-linear and what appears to happen is that pharmaceutical companies take the worst case infection rate before a vaccine is introduced and then point to the dramatically decreased rate of that infection in vaccinated people. That’s simple junk science. The only way to prove effectiveness of a vaccine is to do double blind placebo controlled trials with a vaccine. These are rare and could only find one such trial done in Czechoslovakia where people either got the current years influenza vaccine or an injection of all the ingredients of the vaccine except for the influenza virae. The average age of the participants was around 40 and, IIRC, the vaccine was only 50% effective in this population. This apparently wasn’t the result being looked for and it was written off as a result of the influenza epidemic not being as severe as expected that year. What we do know is that the older people get, the effectiveness of influenza vaccine goes way down and it would likely be far more cost effective to use antiviral drugs in old people with presumed influenza than vaccinate the whole elderly population.
In 2009 it seemed that Vitamin D may have been the reason why people didn’t get sick in the summer when exposed to H1N1, but it appears that Vitamin D is only part of the answer as exposure to UV light has significant modulatory effects on the immune system as well as being responsible for other photo-reactions in the skin and, like everything in medicine, it’s still a work in progress. I won’t get into the deaths caused by the sun screen lobby, but they dwarf the few skin cancers that are prevented.
It’s definitely a good idea to prime ones immune system if one has to function in an environment where there’s a high chance one can come down with a debilitating or fatal infection. Here the benefits outweigh the risks. However, deciding that everyone should get the “benefit” of a vaccine is simply asinine and increases the prevalence of autoimmunity in people who have no need for the vaccine (but it does increase pharmaceutical profits).
Reports apparently from the WHO have stated that Cuba has one of the lowest rates of infection for vaccinatable diseases and one of the highest rates of vaccination. Better stats than the US or Canada. This success is attributed to the domestically developed vaccine research and production system based on the tried-and-true methods developed in the 50s and 60s. The embargo isolated them from the dubious benefits of big-pharma.
Loki- Have you seen anything relating to this?
Got the “flu” Vaccine in 2010…was – well, i wouldn’t call it being sick…but I sure was “unwell” for a good 7-8 week period thereafter.
Fast forward 1 year – go do annual medical – Doc comes in with flu shot – I say, nope, don’t want it…got sick last year. Well you would have thought I told her i was having gay sex with a Calgary Zoo Chimpanzee…The old bat went ballistic on me saying something like..“well, I don’t see why we even bother with an annual physical”….I could not believe what I was hearing…..sounded like some Climate Alarmist screeching to me that I was a DENIER.
Haven’t taken that shot since – take regular D vitamins, Gensing, Tumeric, Krill and stuff for the joints…eat regular – don’t smoke – use a Cpap machine for good night time breathing and am in decent shape. I think the Flu shot is pure BS…last years virus.
Now if ya want to talk about std Vaccines for childhood stuff and perhaps Tetanus or Hep A/B (Twinrex)….no problem, I’m ok with that stuff and figure everyone should get them.
And for Christs sakes Calgary, lets put the Fluoride back in the water…!!
sweeping pandemics are just over the horizon. this is not some biblical based, dramatist hope-it-happens-to-prove-Im-right thing but based on years of watching documentaries and reviewing centuries of the same thing in the past plus layman’s understanding of pathology, bacteriology, infectious diseases etc.
then where will we be.
As always, Loki, thanks for your comments. If you and Kate would consider it, I’d be happy to see you do some guest posts as well.
I’m sure glad my doctor isn’t like yours. She sees that I’m healthier than most of her patients half my age, totally understands why I avoid processed ‘food’, and fully supports my diet and health choices. I take only one maintenance medication per day which is somewhat rare for a septuagenarian, so I’ll continue to rely on her good advice as a second opinion..