It’s made out of coal tar….. coal, the stuff that’s supposed to be bad for the environment….. the stuff that leftists want to ban now and forever.
Yeah, the socialist medical system is so much better, isn’t it?
Coal is not ‘bad for the environment’, however some of it’s combustion products are toxic.
Coal tar is among the by-products when coal is carbonized to make coke or gasified to make coal gas. It is on the WHO Model List of Essential Medicines, the most important medications needed in a basic health system.
Some people try to politicize everything.
True, but Red Rachel et. al. want to “leave it in the ground”, thereby denying society its benefits.
Next they’ll be bringing back “Blue Ointment”.
I fully support every Eco-leftists right to refuse this treatment. Show their rejection of technology and all carbon-based products
Unfortunately, we are out of coal in Canada,that is why they stopped mining in the Maritimes,and B.C.s reserves are almost used up! I had to convert to a propane barbecue due to the shortage of briquets!
Yes, we reached “peak coal” back in the 70’s and it’s been downhill ever since.
Nope,green is the way to go,as we’ll never run out of sun or wind. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_in_Canada
This article clearly show that,with reserves currently at only 10 billion tons, we have to be very careful with our dwindling supply.
Wiki article says Canada has about 4% of total world coal reserves at this time,which is again,clearly the bulk of world coal supply.
Just do the math.
Coal Tar is still used in some specialty shampoo’s and such.
I’ve always loved coal tar bars of soap, very hard to find, got some off the internet a couple of times but it sure isn’t in stores anymore, maybe this will trigger a comeback, any soap entrepreneurs out there?
Do you honestly believe that coal fired power has anything to do with extracting small amounts of coal for medicinal feedstock?
Besides, Canadian coal fired power is not a significant source of toxic pollution given the stack scrubbing regs in Canada.
The fact is the conservatives in Alberta couldn’t get their act together and stupidly let the socialists take power.
….and you can get it at the pet shop
If looking for Coal Tar soap, my Pharmacist friend suggests you try:
TERSA-TAR SHP 450ML
POLYTAR SHP MILD 350ML
POLYTAR SHP RG 350ML
DOAK OIL FTE 250ML
DOAK OIL RG 250ML
EXOREX GEL 2 COAL TAR 100ML
EXOREX GEL 2 COAL TAR 250ML
LIQUOR CARBONIS DETERGENS 500ML
NEUTROGENA T/GEL SHP 0.5% 250ML
NEUTROGENA T/GEL SHP 130ML
A decent pharmacy should special order if requested.
If this is true coal miners should have the healthiest lungs around.
Soooorrrrry! The problem for coal miners is mainly dust. Including stone dust.
The Greens would only by such items if it was labelled
TESLA TAR SHP or CARBON NEUTRALGENA T/GEL SHP.
But Mrs. May would love the LIQUOR CARBONIS DETERGENS 500ML
Packer’s Pine Tar Soap is the classic, I just checked it out on Amazon.ca and the price is ridiculous… It was popular with the WWII generation, a manly soap that leaves no soap odour to give you away when you are creeping up in the night to cut the throat of a nazi sentry…
Most of these products have been discontinued or are not available. Neutrogena t-gel probably the only one
readily available. Ask your pharmacist, they might compound a coal tar solution or ointment.
I was being sarcastic with my earlier comments. It seems odd that a compound which could prove to be a useful medical treatment is made from a substance that the Khmer Vert is rabid in preventing society from using.
Their prohibition is based on questionable science and dubious statistics and is, no doubt, politically motivated. Explaining this to socialists and eco-whackadoodles is about as productive as trying to teach partial differential equations to a buffalo.
The Alberta socialists are using the carbon tax law very repressively, including searches without warrants, undercover officers, etc.
4 facts about Alberta NDP’s new carbon tax law “that should make you furious” https://youtu.be/tNVyfVSf0bo
My lung collapsed and at the ER a chest tube was inserted to reinflate the lung. The deep wound became infected. My surgeon, (dealing with my other lung issues) who had served with Medecins Sans Frontieres, asked the hospital pharmacy to give my home care nurses a couple of bottles of acriflavine, a sticky, bright yellow goop, to soak the daily dressings. It took from early April until mid June for the deep wound to finally heal, but it certainly was no longer infected. By the way, when I asked the surgeon why the ER chest tube wound got infected, but the chest tube wound he made a week later in the operating theatre did not, he said, and I quote,” That’s because the ER is filthy and my operating room is clean.” This occurred in a major Ontario hospital in 2003. That coal tar stuff is not a new idea.
A related topic. Folks might want to do some research on ‘phage therapy’….it’s a virus application used to kill infectiuons.
The Russians were heavily involved in this as they headed down this path apparently not having access to the research on antibiotics and/or having difficulty with the costs. There was a TV special in the 80’s I think that did a great job explaining this.
Phage therapy was their main method of dealing with infections during one time period; they had extensive banks of phages custom designed for known diseases with the possibility to custom design phages for previously unknown infections if I understand this correctly.
Fascinating I think.
Here are links to some pertinent info. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phage_therapy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5xsi40S2Z0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjH6m5VuR6I
Do a Youtube search on Phage Therapy.
Odder is that 60+ millions of people died from the Spanish Influenza immediately subsequent to WWI when Coal Tar was a known key to fighting bad health.
WTF?
Some things should be viewed with either skepticism or the lens of conspiracy.
There is no middle ground.
Medicines derived from Coal tar can be effective antibiotics, like penicillin and sulfa drugs. Influenza is a virus, and antibiotics are not effective in combating viral infections.
Coal tar soap would be key to fighting bad health because cleanliness generally is. But it doesn’t say coal tar soap cured infection in wounds, it says acraflavine did that and was derived from coal tar and that acraflavine was replaced by penicillin. What connects either to influenza? I haven’t heard of penicillin curing flu, so I wouldn’t have thought the acraflavine it replaced was used to treat flu, Spanish or other strains.
article title: This forgotten WWI antiseptic could be the key to fighting antibiotic resistance and the common cold.(emphasis mine)
Well look at that! Can I believe me own beshitted EYES!?
These A-holes think that the common cold is bacterial rather than viral!!!11!11!eleventie./
Yes…No…or something other is what they’re really talking about.
Coal tar is supposed, in this article, as being a key to fighting anti-biotic resistance, not an anti-biotic(anti-bacterial) nor anti-virus(anti-viral) in itself.
It’s about intrinsic individual human immunity and avoiding initial infection. It’s a helper not a healer.
Ponder that…
Tooner? And what then is your suggestion for why coal tar was dropped as an option to aid health considering these assholes think it can fight the common cold…BETTER KNOWN as the FLU?
(the common cold or flu is in fact viral and YES the term flu is short for influenza the only difference between the two, according to the experts, is time and severity)
Look folks. We can argue all we want about what articles that appear here at SDA make as premises.
We can accept or reject the article’s premises and argue on either basis of acceptance or rejection.
But for the sake of plain communication, if you’re going to reject the basic premises of the article… PLEASE SAY SO before you put forth your argument and/or assertion.
At least then it will be known from which direction you are approaching the discussion. Both the common cold and the flu are viral infections.The only medical difference between the two seems to be time and severity.
and yes I know that the title uses the term anti-biotic resistance but then confuses they whole discussion with viral infection.
mining in Cape Breton stopped because the coal was considered too soft and therefore too dirty so now the coal power plants import coal from PA. There is no shortage of coal. One estimate is that the US has about 600 years worth.
I believe there is good reason for the large number of blank ballots. The MSM had demonized Trump but the people could not vote for Hillary or the other two goofs so they simply left the president ballot blank. I suspect that most of the blank ballots were cast by democrats who couldn’t vote for Hillary or Trump.
I thought “coal tar” what what they called black sailors in the Royal Navy?
It’s made out of coal tar….. coal, the stuff that’s supposed to be bad for the environment….. the stuff that leftists want to ban now and forever.
Yeah, the socialist medical system is so much better, isn’t it?
Coal is not ‘bad for the environment’, however some of it’s combustion products are toxic.
Coal tar is among the by-products when coal is carbonized to make coke or gasified to make coal gas. It is on the WHO Model List of Essential Medicines, the most important medications needed in a basic health system.
Some people try to politicize everything.
True, but Red Rachel et. al. want to “leave it in the ground”, thereby denying society its benefits.
Next they’ll be bringing back “Blue Ointment”.
I fully support every Eco-leftists right to refuse this treatment. Show their rejection of technology and all carbon-based products
Unfortunately, we are out of coal in Canada,that is why they stopped mining in the Maritimes,and B.C.s reserves are almost used up! I had to convert to a propane barbecue due to the shortage of briquets!
Yes, we reached “peak coal” back in the 70’s and it’s been downhill ever since.
Nope,green is the way to go,as we’ll never run out of sun or wind.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_in_Canada
This article clearly show that,with reserves currently at only 10 billion tons, we have to be very careful with our dwindling supply.
Wiki article says Canada has about 4% of total world coal reserves at this time,which is again,clearly the bulk of world coal supply.
Just do the math.
Coal Tar is still used in some specialty shampoo’s and such.
I’ve always loved coal tar bars of soap, very hard to find, got some off the internet a couple of times but it sure isn’t in stores anymore, maybe this will trigger a comeback, any soap entrepreneurs out there?
Do you honestly believe that coal fired power has anything to do with extracting small amounts of coal for medicinal feedstock?
Besides, Canadian coal fired power is not a significant source of toxic pollution given the stack scrubbing regs in Canada.
The fact is the conservatives in Alberta couldn’t get their act together and stupidly let the socialists take power.
….and you can get it at the pet shop
If looking for Coal Tar soap, my Pharmacist friend suggests you try:
TERSA-TAR SHP 450ML
POLYTAR SHP MILD 350ML
POLYTAR SHP RG 350ML
DOAK OIL FTE 250ML
DOAK OIL RG 250ML
EXOREX GEL 2 COAL TAR 100ML
EXOREX GEL 2 COAL TAR 250ML
LIQUOR CARBONIS DETERGENS 500ML
NEUTROGENA T/GEL SHP 0.5% 250ML
NEUTROGENA T/GEL SHP 130ML
A decent pharmacy should special order if requested.
If this is true coal miners should have the healthiest lungs around.
Soooorrrrry! The problem for coal miners is mainly dust. Including stone dust.
The Greens would only by such items if it was labelled
TESLA TAR SHP or CARBON NEUTRALGENA T/GEL SHP.
But Mrs. May would love the LIQUOR CARBONIS DETERGENS 500ML
Packer’s Pine Tar Soap is the classic, I just checked it out on Amazon.ca and the price is ridiculous… It was popular with the WWII generation, a manly soap that leaves no soap odour to give you away when you are creeping up in the night to cut the throat of a nazi sentry…
Most of these products have been discontinued or are not available. Neutrogena t-gel probably the only one
readily available. Ask your pharmacist, they might compound a coal tar solution or ointment.
I was being sarcastic with my earlier comments. It seems odd that a compound which could prove to be a useful medical treatment is made from a substance that the Khmer Vert is rabid in preventing society from using.
Their prohibition is based on questionable science and dubious statistics and is, no doubt, politically motivated. Explaining this to socialists and eco-whackadoodles is about as productive as trying to teach partial differential equations to a buffalo.
The Alberta socialists are using the carbon tax law very repressively, including searches without warrants, undercover officers, etc.
4 facts about Alberta NDP’s new carbon tax law “that should make you furious”
https://youtu.be/tNVyfVSf0bo
My lung collapsed and at the ER a chest tube was inserted to reinflate the lung. The deep wound became infected. My surgeon, (dealing with my other lung issues) who had served with Medecins Sans Frontieres, asked the hospital pharmacy to give my home care nurses a couple of bottles of acriflavine, a sticky, bright yellow goop, to soak the daily dressings. It took from early April until mid June for the deep wound to finally heal, but it certainly was no longer infected. By the way, when I asked the surgeon why the ER chest tube wound got infected, but the chest tube wound he made a week later in the operating theatre did not, he said, and I quote,” That’s because the ER is filthy and my operating room is clean.” This occurred in a major Ontario hospital in 2003. That coal tar stuff is not a new idea.
A related topic. Folks might want to do some research on ‘phage therapy’….it’s a virus application used to kill infectiuons.
The Russians were heavily involved in this as they headed down this path apparently not having access to the research on antibiotics and/or having difficulty with the costs. There was a TV special in the 80’s I think that did a great job explaining this.
Phage therapy was their main method of dealing with infections during one time period; they had extensive banks of phages custom designed for known diseases with the possibility to custom design phages for previously unknown infections if I understand this correctly.
Fascinating I think.
Here are links to some pertinent info.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phage_therapy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5xsi40S2Z0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjH6m5VuR6I
Do a Youtube search on Phage Therapy.
Odder is that 60+ millions of people died from the Spanish Influenza immediately subsequent to WWI when Coal Tar was a known key to fighting bad health.
WTF?
Some things should be viewed with either skepticism or the lens of conspiracy.
There is no middle ground.
Medicines derived from Coal tar can be effective antibiotics, like penicillin and sulfa drugs. Influenza is a virus, and antibiotics are not effective in combating viral infections.
Coal tar soap would be key to fighting bad health because cleanliness generally is. But it doesn’t say coal tar soap cured infection in wounds, it says acraflavine did that and was derived from coal tar and that acraflavine was replaced by penicillin. What connects either to influenza? I haven’t heard of penicillin curing flu, so I wouldn’t have thought the acraflavine it replaced was used to treat flu, Spanish or other strains.
article title: This forgotten WWI antiseptic could be the key to fighting antibiotic resistance
and the common cold.(emphasis mine)
Well look at that! Can I believe me own beshitted EYES!?
These A-holes think that the common cold is bacterial rather than viral!!!11!11!eleventie./
Yes…No…or something other is what they’re really talking about.
Coal tar is supposed, in this article, as being a key to fighting anti-biotic resistance, not an anti-biotic(anti-bacterial) nor anti-virus(anti-viral) in itself.
It’s about intrinsic individual human immunity and avoiding initial infection. It’s a helper not a healer.
Ponder that…
Tooner? And what then is your suggestion for why coal tar was dropped as an option to aid health considering these assholes think it can fight the common cold…BETTER KNOWN as the FLU?
(the common cold or flu is in fact viral and YES the term flu is short for influenza the only difference between the two, according to the experts, is time and severity)
Look folks. We can argue all we want about what articles that appear here at SDA make as premises.
We can accept or reject the article’s premises and argue on either basis of acceptance or rejection.
But for the sake of plain communication, if you’re going to reject the basic premises of the article… PLEASE SAY SO before you put forth your argument and/or assertion.
At least then it will be known from which direction you are approaching the discussion.
Both the common cold and the flu are viral infections.The only medical difference between the two seems to be time and severity.
and yes I know that the title uses the term anti-biotic resistance but then confuses they whole discussion with viral infection.
mining in Cape Breton stopped because the coal was considered too soft and therefore too dirty so now the coal power plants import coal from PA. There is no shortage of coal. One estimate is that the US has about 600 years worth.
I believe there is good reason for the large number of blank ballots. The MSM had demonized Trump but the people could not vote for Hillary or the other two goofs so they simply left the president ballot blank. I suspect that most of the blank ballots were cast by democrats who couldn’t vote for Hillary or Trump.
I thought “coal tar” what what they called black sailors in the Royal Navy?