Hope And Change In Baton Rouge

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You know, like the Tea Party…


Close enough.
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  1. You don’t think maybe the shooters have a point? Those of us who aren’t boot or badge lickers find it interesting that cops cannot seem tobfathom the possibility that they’ve lost the trust of the people, and the game is pretty much up.
    Heck even the US army isn’t exactly coming out swinging on cops’ behalf. I think the cops have pretty much screwed themselves by now.

  2. Except the police HAVEN’T lost the trust of the people. Only the radical fringe. Which you are probably part of. Loon. As for US military, it is under such tight politically correct dictates that it says nothing. Get lost.

  3. Ah. Apparently there’s a “New Freedom Group” in Saskatoon! Who wants to go in there and ask how long between joining and when we get to start shooting cops. Take a camera to capture the puzzled look on their faces before they call 9-1-1.

  4. The US is so big and diverse that both can be true. Police training in the US varies from excellent to dismal. A bad officer could be fired from one department and then he could go to the next without cross checking if there is enough distance between the 2. You can do everything right 999 out of a 1,000 and that 1 case will come back to bite the department. There is also an element that works to make the police fail.

  6. BDSN. If and when a crime is committed against you or your family, call BLM or the New Black Panthers or some SJW for help.

  7. I thought Obama made it PERFECTLY CLEAR that anti-police violence was mostly understandable and practically justified–but to stop doing it!

  8. mid island mike, as a former Cold War warrior, and ex-marine, why would I? So the donut-munchers could arrest me after the fact for blasting the scumbags in my doorway? Nope, in (what until recently was) my neck of the woods, we would prefer to shoot, shovel and shut up.
    How many murders, assaults and home invasions have cops ever stopped mid-stream? They show up and take statements if someone is alive, photos if not. If it’s the perps that are dead, you get hauled off, and get your life ruined. Jeez, what bloody planet do you live on, pal?
    Cops in the US exist primarily to shake down the citizenry for spot tarriffs and taxes, or to execute the unusual or weird. Rarely in the last 5 years have I seen a US police shooting that is justified. And in the UK and Germany, cops are now arresting people for vigorous online posts about politically sensitive issues. Go ahead, keep slurping the Kool-Aid. I am not buying what you are selling.

  9. You don’t think maybe the shooters have a point?
    Of course not. As Joey commented, only the radical fringe believe that. There are good people and bad people in every profession. Only fools believe that all should be punished for the sins of the few. I agree with Colin that “Police training in the US varies from excellent to dismal.” Every case has to be treated as an individual situation. Shooting at people is never justified unless it’s in self defense or defending the life of another person, except in the case of soldiers in combat of course.

  10. Bdsn said: “You don’t think maybe the shooters have a point?”
    No. They’re suckers. Played by Louis Frakakahn, the Rainbow Coalition, that big head on a small body Shrarpton dude, Barry the ‘community organizer”, and every other a-hole in the USA who screams RAAAACIST every time anybody so much as orders corn flakes for breakfast.
    The shooters in Dallas, this moron in Louisiana, they are nothing but useful idiots putting money in rich men’s pockets.
    And you my friend are another one.

  11. They are killing innocent victims. That’s cold blooded murder. That’s the point.

  12. “Rarely in the last 5 years have I seen a US police shooting that is justified”
    put on a cop uniform and get back to me in 2 years, we’ll what you think “justified” means then. About 1/3 of all my interactions with cops, and that is one hell of as lot more than most people’s” have been of the negative type, and I don’t think like you on this topic. Most of the police shooting s that have been in the news lately were justified. Even poor old Philando was justified shooting.

  13. BDSN. So you are an ex marine, I am a retired cop and I have stood in the gap for society in deadly situations. Could have lost my life many times. But I guess cause I like the odd donut it doesn’t count.

  14. How about he defends from being a victim…. and subsequently gets arrested and brutalized by the JBTs you worship?

  15. “Even poor old Philando was justified shooting.”
    Care to point to a shred of evidence to that effect? Or is being a scary looking negro with a gun permit enough?

  18. The more police officers are assassinated, the more other police officers will be quick to pull the trigger in hot situations, thus the more violent black men will be shot by police.
    Murdering police officers is highly counter productive, it only makes things worse and worse.

  20. “Murdering police officers is highly counter productive, it only makes things worse and worse.”
    Suuuuure, but murdering by police officers is so productive.

  21. What murders by police officers? as when Michael Brown tried to grab the gun of the police officer, and the officer had to shoot brown in self defense?
    What is your problem? you believe all the lies of the blacklivesmatter criminals?

  22. He did not have a gun permit. He was a Crip, a gangsta. And he matched very closely the description of the perp of an armed robbery, a perp for whom a BOLO was issued, and acting on the BOLO, the cop pulled him over, which fact is available on transcripts of police radio calls, should you care to look for them.

  23. Every one of these cop-hating extremists would be on the phone calling the cops if they ever needed police services. They’re nothing but hypocritical cop-hating cowards.

  24. I belong to an online group where the ONLY members are vetted U.S. Army Infantry – current, former, and retired.
    Any question about whether or not the majority of American soldiers – past and present – support American cops can be settled with two facts:
    1. MANY former soldiers BECOME cops after we leave the service – seems like the whole “Sheepdog” mentality runs deep;
    AND
    2. out of over 6,000 current members in our “Grunt Group”, precisely ZERO have made any jackass comments about the police “deserving it” or “lost the public’s trust” or “murdering by police” or any similarly asinine rhetoric which characterizes fools whose ONLY taste of conflict comes from video games or imagined “micro-aggressions” at their on-campus latte shops.
    Support for the police is virtually unanimous.
    IF anyone is interested in the root causes of the latest rash of cop-killings, they need look no further than the media and the Democrat Party (but I repeat myself), along with the current jackass in the Oval Office – Lil’ King Putt.

  25. What I see here is the same as in the USA; those who side with the criminals and blame the police don’t know the facts, they believe the hype and the lies, they have been brainwashed.

  26. Great, another law and order moron who believes that cops are the good guys.
    “What murders by police officers?”
    There are plenty to choose from: Kelly Thomas, Walter Scott, Freddie Gray, attempted murder of Levar Jones, in all likelihood murder of Philando Castile.
    As for Michael Brown, given that the cops have tampered with evidence, that the shooter cop had every chance to clean himself up before talking to forensics, that none confiscated his weapon, that in short the cops have shown a clear disregard for procedure, because who cares about another dead negro, the shooter and his supervisors should be automatically considered guilty of murder.

  28. No they aren’t and unless they are held accountable they are no better than common street thugs. They are already overpaid, bellow average IQ (before you object PDs went to court defending policy of discrimination against inteligent people), unionized goons.

  29. So, do you have a better alternative to these SS in blue, some constructive idea for a replacement?

  30. “…Murdering police officers is highly counter productive, it only makes things worse and worse.”
    Counterproductive. Or productive. It depends what someone is trying to produce.

  31. “because who cares about another dead negro”
    Now I understand why you have a distorted perception of reality.
    You actually believe the fairy tales about racism, and if I were to present you with the numbers on white violent criminals shot by police you would reject them.
    You have been brainwashed.

  32. You might want to take your meds, moron. Get too many speeding tickets, did you? Maybe you should try to join the cops and see how “easy” it is. You wouldn’t stand a chance because you are an ass. As Dwight Eisenhower said to a smarmy journalist years ago (which applies to you as well), “farming looks might easy when you are thousand miles from the corn field and your plow is a pencil”.

  34. Let’s start with mandatory on body and in the cruiser cameras with harsh penalties for tampering with evidence. Then immediate release of the recording. Harsh penalties every time cops interfere with law abiding citizens filming them in action. Apparently in case of Castile cops are sitting on recordings and not releasing them. Then extreme harsh sentences every time cops behave like thugs. Removal of all police labour unions. Minimum instead of maximum IQ standards. Removal of affirmative action in hiring. That would be the project minimum.
    Just out of curiosity, do you believe that policing in US needs reforming or not? Are you comfortable with the fact that US cops are deadlier by several orders of magnitude than all of the developed world’s police forces combined? Canadian cops appear to be second bloodiest btw.
    Here is Mark Steyn on the issue: http://www.steynonline.com/6524/cigars-but-not-close just a few paragrpahs here but read the rest.
    “The most basic problem is that we will never know for certain what happened. Why? Because the Ferguson cruiser did not have a camera recording the incident. That’s simply not credible. “Law” “enforcement” in Ferguson apparently has at its disposal tear gas, riot gear, armored vehicles and machine guns …but not a dashcam. That’s ridiculous. I remember a few years ago when my one-man police department in New Hampshire purchased a camera for its cruiser. It’s about as cheap and basic a police expense as there is.
    Last year, my meek mild-mannered mumsy office manager was pulled over by an angry small-town cop in breach of her Fourth Amendment rights. The state lost in court because the officer’s artful narrative and the usual faked-up-after-the-fact incident report did not match the dashcam footage. Three years ago, I was pulled over by an unmarked vehicle in Vermont and (to put it mildly) erroneously ticketed. In court, I was withering about the department’s policy of no dashcams for unmarked cars, and traffic cops driving around pretending to be James Bond but without the super-secret spy camera. The judge loathed me (as judges tend to), but I won that case. In 2014, when a police cruiser doesn’t have a camera, it’s a conscious choice. And it should be regarded as such.
    And, if we have to have federal subsidy programs for municipal police departments, we should scrap the one that gives them the second-hand military hardware from Tikrit and Kandahar and replace it with one that ensures every patrol car has a camera.”

  35. “You actually believe the fairy tales about racism, ”
    In that case and few others it wasn’t a fairytale. I have made it very clear on numerous occasions that in general the only color that matters is blue. Indeed whites are more likely to get shot by cops than blacks. Why? Blacks show up to the riot, $hit flies both ways and so on. Congrats on cherry pickling my points and finding one weakest angle to bite on.

  37. “Those of us who aren’t boot or badge lickers find it interesting that cops cannot seem to fathom the possibility that they’ve lost the trust of the people”
    Yes.
    Hey! SDA commenters…did you learn anything from the failed Turkish coup d’état?
    The COPS were on the government side and the ARMY was on the side of all inclusive Turkish Liberty.
    …Let me say this another way…
    The purpose of the Police is to defend the Government Order, and the purpose of the Army is to defend the Nation.
    (army guys take an oath to defend the PEOPLE from threat, foreign or domestic)
    This is why, historically, we should RESPECT and HONOR the Warrior Class
    …this is why Despots round up and dispose of the traditional Upper Warrior Class. These people have a military tradition that spans Generations of protecting, not the current regime, but the People of whom the Nation comprises and they want to carry on tradition.
    Please ponder the difference. Think about the dichotomy between policing the people FOR the government(thugs) and protecting the nation.(the tribe you are a part of, a member of, and is a sanctuary for you and yours against the World)
    Now to you, BDSN.
    What would it mean if the Negro community has lost the trust of all other American communities?
    Ponder that SDA.
    The White community has demonstrated its tolerance, it’s effort to give …to get along, the Negro community has done what beside agitate for more more more?(this shouldn’t even apply to Canada, Canada has no tradition/history of slave ownership or exploitation of any group, save Western and Atlantic Canada.
    Race? KMA you Bolshevik *Mother Truckers.(punches pulled for virgin minds, no disrespect for legacy truck drivers, my Grandpappy on my daddy’s side was a short haul teamster when being a Teamster meant driving a TEAM of horses)
    And WHAT have the negroes done to take advantage of all of the education, training, and $Trillions of taxes that hard working White people pay?
    (white people who were never slave owners, who never had slaver ancestor, LIKE OBAMA, who were at the same economic/educational competition level as freed negro slaves were)
    Do you know what happens when there is a prison riot and the Negro convicts gain control of the prisoner quarters?
    All of the other non-Negro prisoners caucus with the White prisoners.
    Don’t believe me? Do an internet search.
    Non-White races trust Whitey more than they trust Blackie.
    ………………………………………………………………………….
    What does it mean for the Army guys to defend the Nation?
    First: It means for the Warrior Class to defend the People against to government and it’s agents.(police)
    Secondly:
    It means to defend the very EXISTENCE of the Nation against the BORG*(WORLD GOVERNMENT)
    In truth, world government does not seek to rule us all.
    It seeks only to kill most of us just as Lenin and Stalin did to have iron rule.
    (exception, if you’re reading this and you are already in on the government plan then good on you and I don’t know how you can ever sleep at night or think that you aren’t on borrowed time)
    They only want to rule insofar as they can order the destruction of all of us proles/petite bourgeoisies and demand anything of any of us.
    and contemporary Negros speak of tyranny? Jeeze Louise.
    You negros can kiss my hairy, rose hued skveek-hole.(not actually, I don’t svwing dat vay)

  38. Oh my, little Joey, the resident ankle biter Chihuahua who never produced an original thought in his life, but who always complains about uncivility of others, is all of a sudden throwing insults himself? Tsk tsk tsk, little one, you kiss your momma with that mouth?

  39. Two points: instead of giving legitimacy to the racist Black Lives Matter movement and various other attention-getting hucksters, why don’t people examine facts for themselves? Not every cop is trigger-happy and not every black citizen is an innocent person just walking by and so forth.
    Secondly, the opposite of a police-state is no policing whatsoever. I’m not seeing how either would be attractive.
    As for the shooter, colour me not-at-all surprised.

  41. It’s good to see a rational comment among the ‘foamers’.
    No reasonable person on this forum is saying that the police are always perfect and above reproach. In any profession entrusted with power over others, there will always be those few who abuse that power, especially if they’re confronted by abusive people. If our resident cop-hater treats the police officers he meets with the same disrespect and disdain he dumps on anyone here who disagrees with his extremist views, then it’s easy to see how his experiences with the police have been negative, and why that would distort his perceptions of police officers in general. It’s best explained by the old adage: Shít attracts flies.

  43. present obama said:
    Police are Stupid- 2008- 6 months after becoming present.
    Then he said: If they bring a knife, We need to bring a gun. 2008.. google it.
    present oblabermouth has blood on his hands, and we all know it..
    President Jimmy Carter is somewhere, grinning..

  45. And in the Toronto Sun its business as usual. In Toronto overnight another shooting. 1st suspect, black male, 2nd suspect, black male.

  46. “It’s best explained by the old adage: Shít attracts flies.”
    True enough.
    And anonymity creates tough guys out of not much at all.

  47. Back in Dad’s day when a reporter made something up out of whole cloth it was a human interest story and nobody got hurt. Now stuff that does damage gets made up every day.

  48. *
    “colonista says… in all likelihood murder of Philando Castile.”
    they’ve since matched the cigarette tax stamps from the smoke shop armed robbery
    to lavish destiny reynolds cigarettes. the release of the radio call proves castile was
    not pulled over for a broken tail light.
    lavish has made off major gofundme dollars, to the chagrin of castile’s family.
    this was a good shoot… as was alton sterling… and no amount of confirmation bias will
    make it otherwise.
    *

  49. so she bought hot smokes….whoopteedodaday… I myself buy natives every damn chance I get. Does that make it a clean kill if the cops find them after the fact? I think not so much.

  50. People generally prefer to not be groped when they travel, choked for selling cigarettes, or have their homes raided by SWAT teams in the middle of the night for possessing a plant. It is only government police that engage in these types of activities because when a police agency’s source of revenue is involuntary and divorced from the quality of service it provides, abuses are more likely to occur.
    Perhaps equally as important is that private police do not enjoy the legal privileges that government police do, but are on equal legal standing with the rest of us. They want to avoid lawsuits for injury because they, not the taxpayer, will be liable. Unlike government police, they do not enjoy the benefit of a friendly prosecutor who will do all that is politically feasible to avoid getting them indicted. Private police do not have union contracts that keep them from being interrogated after a shooting, or allow them to be reinstated after being fired for misconduct, as public police do. Indeed, it is quite amazing that anyone believes government police, who investigate themselves when there are citizen complaints against them, will hold themselves accountable.
    Despite the far greater number of private police, we rarely hear about them shooting anyone. And this is not because they have a less dangerous job. Rather, private police are killed more often than government police, and a greater proportion of those deaths are the result of violence, rather than accidents. This is only to be expected when one is in the business of protecting persons and private property and must do so in a satisfactory way or be fired. Government police hold no such obligation: the US Supreme Court opined in Warren v. District of Columbia (1981) that police owe no specific duty to protect citizens.
    Thus, it should not be hard to imagine how private police would be far more accountable, and far less prone to violence, than government police.
    https://mises.org/blog/private-policing-isnt-fantasy

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