Open thread watch on CPAC.
Harper has to win some, Trudeau has to fend off Mulcair and Mulcair has to hit it out of the park.
We’ll see.
Open thread watch on CPAC.
Harper has to win some, Trudeau has to fend off Mulcair and Mulcair has to hit it out of the park.
We’ll see.
Hard to watch, even with the translators. I turned the sound down and said rude things.
As much as I think the whole Muslim question is very important, a third of the debate seemed to be about the niqab which is ridiculous. Have to say Gilles Duceppe seems to be the winner as he has a long memory and brought up all sorts of things from the past to debate the others. Harper was the winner on the niqab with the decided help of Duceppe.
The main theme questions posed by the host were mainly negative about Canada’s reputation in the world, gun control, etc. so naturally hurt Harper. Mulcair pointedly told Trudeau that nobody had interrupted him so why did he interrupt.
Can’t get over those beady eyes of Mulcair. Still waiting for Harper to say manufacturing jobs are down because of policies of Ontario government!
I’m already voting Conservative so not bothering to watch debates or read very much election coverage from a brainless media. However, just want to say that Mulcair comes across as CREEPY. His appearance. His voice. And his manner.
Creepy never wins. Especially with female voters.
Is there a football game on tonight?…
Or is everyone sick of the debates?
I was watching the debate for a short while. Then it dawned on me that there had to be a better way to choose a leader.
Enjoy!!
https://youtu.be/yULKkVKBpmM
When trudeau waxes poetic about the great liberal tradition of opening their arms to immigrants in need someone needs to ask him about which government would not accept the refugees from the St. Louis
After only five minutes of watching:
B-A-D translation. Why was the same person translating a conversation between two people, instead of a tranny per Leader. AMATEUR HOUR.
Same questions as previous debates.
SAME answers as previous debates.
I was done, this one was over. If this is Trudozo’s and Moolie’s stragedy, they are not going to improve their vote.
OTOH Duceppe was taking no prisoners. The Traitor was throwing darts with precision, hurting everyone he engaged with. The upside? He steals votes from Fibs and Dips, hurting them in Qbec.
Works for me, even with some gutshots to PMSH. Just flesh wounds.
Nicola;
TVA’s debate moderators represent the Lower Canada elite. They may gain popularity in Lower Canada by getting uppity at the Upper Canada elite but most Lower Canadians see the issues of “Canada’s reputation in the world, gun control, etc.” the same way much of the rest of Canada sees them. In Lower Canada the Conservatives win seats outside Montreal, where those issues are viewed through a conservative lens, and jobs depend on things like manufacturing for the military and natural resource extraction. If the Conservatives win 15 seats in Qc. this time around that will represent a 300% increase over the 5 seats they won last time and could be the difference between a minority loss and a minority win, or, even a majority win.
The good news is that Harper didn’t give away the farm to try to win those seats. He drew a picture showing the Conservatives can be trusted with one of the few legitimate rolls of government — security — while Justin is just not ready and Commie Tommy can’t be trusted.
Will this be enough? It depends how much folks listen to the Media Party. The Media Party is all-in against PM Harper. 10 years is a long time to be PM, a very long time. You can piss off a lot folks in 10 years.
I think it’s time for me to make my donation to the CPC for their last round of ads.
Lower Canada Elite
Mulcair comes across as the creepy old uncle at the family reunion that you don’t want your kids to go near.
Trudeau? Well, he’s just creepy in a different way.
The split screen was fantastic,watching Bozo act out his Canadian Psycho role,Duceppe ears turn red and Mulcair get angry with smoke coming out of his ears was priceless.
“Will this be enough? It depends how much folks listen to the Media Party. The Media Party is all-in against PM Harper. 10 years is a long time to be PM, a very long time. You can piss off a lot folks in 10 years.”
Yes, especially when they already hated him going in. The great irony of the last 15 or so years of politics is the from the get-go attacks on Harper, any slant, slur or slime, and never an apology when proven wrong btw, but he’s the mean-spirited one, and thus his party & policies. Now the strategy of both Trudeau & Mulcair is to tell us what to think – no, Harper has got to go, period, no discussion, no substantiation, and no matter how ridiculous their promises and false narratives. We must have change, but we can’t tell you what it really is because that’s not what’s important right now and we don’t know anyway. It’s just an election so Harper can go. That’s it so stop thinking for yourself.
Why should Harper be ashamed, well the UN says so. We’re not reducing pollution (and thus emissions) faster than anyone, including diesel addicted Europe; nope we’re in “last place.” Canada isn’t a key player in international affairs including present trade negotiations having the potentially profoundly positive effect on this country; no, we need someone to “tear it up.” (I think the unions ordered that one).
We’re not the best county in the world, our economy isn’t outperforming the world’s richest nations and now unexpectedly strong and easily out of what can only be called a mini-recession. No Canada is broken economically in need of fixing.
The poor aren’t better off with Harper’s policies; no,they need more carbon taxes and higher utilities costs to make them richer. Well at least to make the rich less rich, but you’ve got to let them do it, because, you guessed it, Harper’s got to go!
Remember 400,000 union, oops manufacturing, jobs have “disappeared” despite solid job growth overall, with that sector employment reducing nowhere else – except almost everywhere else, except maybe China.
These politicians tell the voters what to think of the niqab, of refugee policy, of free trade. Then they hoist infantile detailed costing of their programs and tell us we’re supposed to think Harper is the one who isn’t competent. It’s getting old and new at the same time and the voters seemed bored.
Remember, tell a Canadian voter they’re apathetic and they’ll reply “who cares?”
Anyway, the circle has finally been completed on the NDP socialist charade, and now the shine on the pony will soon tarnish with the memory of the debates and reminders of his gaffes. Throwing trinkets to seniors won’t help either of them. The NDP will pay for their stupid remarks on the trade negotiations.
Unless and until the voters go all in with low information, Harper wins – I still haven’t put it past them. I can’t see them electing a pretender like Trudeau, but have the Obama and Notley experiences to make me well, conservative.
As there seem to be very few who watched this debate, I have to admit to having been reduced to just spot-checking our beloved Blue Jays during this broadcast.
Having watched on CPAC, I must say the translators have to be congratulated for even attempting this format. The gentleman with the English accent did a very good job in keeping up,but one of the women, who sounded like Hollyhock from the old children’s program Uncle Chichimus, was very distracting.
There is something rather retro to all these debates. Having been out of the federal scene for so many years, Duceppe keeps going back to 2007 and seems to have lost much of his “zing”; Mulcair,his 35 years in public life and so many references to his term in the Quebec Legislature (where he was a Liberal no less); and, Trudeau nostalgically resurrecting Martin/Chretien (and having to disassociate himself from a Chretien comment this week), references to the Blue Beret peacekeepers, and of course “Papa”.
Wish I could draw.
Witness- Justin and Gilles sitting up in bed; Gilles is wearing his bath-cap and says to Justin “Well..you “mon amour” me tonight, but….will you coalition me tomorrow?”
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/10/02/justin-trudeau-gilles-duceppe-love_n_8236282.html
Bet the English MSM is MIA on this one. No! The CBC is all over it-
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-duceppe-my-love-mon-amour-1.3255616?cmp=rss
I have voted in every federal election since I reached voting age … many, many years ago. Conservative, Alliance or Reform was always the obvious choice. However, this election is somewhat different. The choice is so glaringly obvious that I simply cannot understand why the polls indicate a fairly close three-way race. Harper’s opponents are not even in the same ballpark when it comes to policy or instilling confidence in the electorate. Both promise more taxes and/or deficits. Both are soft on terrorism. And on a somewhat superficial note, both are just plain creepy. Up to this point, Mr. Harper has run an admirable campaign. He has throttled his opponents in the debates. Other than the odd manufactured or embellished scandal (see Mike Duffy), he has run a very tight ship. Do voters really relish the thought of higher taxes or virtually unlimited, unregulated immigration? Do voters not understand the importance of a balanced budget? Have voters not been paying attention to Greece or Venezuela where socialism has shown its true colours? Or is the pool of voters now so shallow and lazy that they take all the media bullsh*t at face value?
Are you missing the point?
Who answers polls?
The answer to that question should indicate the problem for the Libtards.
A draw in the polls indicates a Conservative Majority to me.
How many conservative people do you know, who will voluntarily respond to a pollster?
You’re right of course. I should know better but the importance of this election has really got me on edge. Another confession … I get spooked by lawn signs when I know, as one commentator pointed out, lawn signs don’t vote. In fact, I know of a few people who proudly sport their orange signs yet can’t be bothered to vote. Conservatives are not quite so demonstrative about their voting preference although I do have a nice, blue sign on my lawn just to show the neighbours how politically astute I am. Maybe … just maybe it will persuade a few to look around, see how good they have it and use their heads on Oct. 19.