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Huge faux-pas. Perhaps a case of silencing an obvious squeaky wheel, all the while being blissfully unaware there are (at least) two sides to the argument. Stunningly incompetent.
I take a pass on Tim’s now.
The author of the Financial Post story arrived at exactly the wrong conclusion. His Thesis, that Canadian companies need to do more to embrace CSR is exactly wrong. Canada is a different market than the US. And consumers have learned both here and in the US that CSR invariable ends up being nothing more than the namby-pamby and insincere mouthing of PC platitudes, since in most cases it’s collective corporate suicide to do anything else. Nobody cares what you think unless it’s wrongthink. Unless you’re prepared to risk your business in support of a genuine principle, the best thing you can do is STFU.
The author’s final suggestion, that Tim Horton’s turn their in-store TV channel into an open platform for ideological debate is idiotic.
Two weeks without any Tims products. I doubt they’ll notice their loss of business from me. They should have kept their beaks shut to the SumofIdiots group and then they wouldn’t look so stupid keeping their beaks shut to Ezra.
Sad. Although, my home brew tastes better these days.
Lost Tims
The author’s case-building – talking over and over about in the wake of the 2008 crash consumers were seeking deeper meaning from their lives and so were expecting corporations to show more concern for social issues blah blah blah…
I kept thinking, “isn’t this what organized religion used to be for”?
“They should have kept their beaks shut to the SumofIdiots group and then they wouldn’t look so stupid keeping their beaks shut to Ezra.”
Agreed. A polite form letter to the “SumofIdiots” (“…thank you fore your comments, Tim Hortons appreciates the input of all its customers, etc., etc…”) and then just carry on.
The irony is that without oil and the over 4000 products derived from it, Timmy could not exist.
“The irony is that without oil and the over 4000 products derived from it, Timmy could not exist.”
Yes indeed.
And nothing highlights that irony better than a franchise with a “drive-thru” counter.
pull all the products derived from oil from the protesters, and bingo, protest no more:-))
worst coffee on planet earth. I have no problem not buying it mcdonalds coffee is better and cheaper.
Sure Mac’s puts out better coffee but their not open at 5am. I sent the ‘no more’ email off to Timmy’s with a comment about working people vs airhead eco nuts and who is more valuable to them.
Bottom line is the working crowd is still lined up in the drive throughs. I honestly do not think most people connect the issues. Why think about hard stuff when your hand held device shows nice pictures of young women!
Try Boris in Montreal, great coffee and they make the donuts fresh and in front of you!! Buy Local!
The icing on the cake is my commute is longer now that I have to drive into town to go to McDonalds in the morning.
So I burn more fossil fuels at the same time that I am boycotting Tim’s.
Haven’t had it for 2 weeks as well and hopefully enough of us are doing so and they will notice 😀
I generally discourage boycotts as un-American, but the minority groups are constantly threatening, and they must think it is a weakness only they see. When the huge Majority takes up Boycotts, business will fail.
The Tim Horton franchise owners can seek recourse against Corporate malfeasance, in a Court.
Tim…Tim…Hmmm…The name vaguely rings a bell.
Tim Horton…Tim Horton… didn’t he used to play foosball for some South American cartel?
What I find interesting in the article is the willful blindness to the fact “If you are not a “Progressive” you will pay. Companies are bullied into the correct PC endorsements. When was the last time Amazon.com Inc., General Mills Inc. and Google Inc. were boycotted,hounded, protested, threatened for their stance on gay marriage? When did the media berate Walgreen’s for its anti-oilsands stance?
“If a company is caught in a storm of controversy, like Tim Hortons was, he said its leaders should consider their values, ask what’s legal, what’s appropriate and what’s morally right, and come out and take a firm stand on that side, rather than leaving themselves at the mercy of opposing political winds.”
Bullshit. What he means is “If you want to survive you had better proclaim your support for the “Progressive” agenda. Whether you agree with it or not.
Mental Health is “delicate”? No Bell decided to pick a “cause” that nobody is going to take issue with. Might as well have CBC come out and say they support Children’s Hospitals. Yay for us! We’re a socially concerned (publicly funded) corporation.
In this one instance the Leftard bullying backfired, made Canadians aware of who’s playing in their front yard, paid to denigrate our economy, and used a Cdn icon to do it.
Tim Hortons bit the hand that feeds it and is bewildered why it is being bitten back.
Maybe I’m way off base with this, but, Tim’s is supposed to be making a major push into US markets. Might the decision to fold to a US pressure group be at least somewhat related to that? Still doesn’t make their decision a good one.
Secondly, I see from the linked article that Madame Premier Clark has managed to get Lululemon to say they cancelled the yoga party on the Burrard bridge last Sunday.
So that is what they make their coffee out of.
Energy, and at present, carbon-based energy is the lifeblood of industrial civilization. Anyone against its use should not be allowed to buy it at the pumps. You don’t like industrial society – we think you should live the consequences of such a stance.
Too many corporations are staffed with green hypocrites, moral cowards, rent seekers and appeasers of the anti-industrial revolution. Rand’s fictional villains populate most corporate PR departments. This how civilizations die-off, not from afar but from suicide within.
It would be a lot easier to Boycott TH if the oil industry showed it was worth defending.
http://www.edmontonsun.com/2015/05/14/canadian-association-of-petroleum-producers-cozying-up-to-albertas-new-ndp-government
CT. 24/7 where I live.
BJG… Tim’s has had a difficult time making it past Courtland NY. I am not sure if that one is still open.
Surprised at how little I miss coffee, and how much change I have