If it’s good enough for pipelines: A small group of dispossessed aboriginals in Delta are laying claim to a vast swath of southern Vancouver Island and the Lower Mainland, including Stanley Park.
h/t Kevin B
If it’s good enough for pipelines: A small group of dispossessed aboriginals in Delta are laying claim to a vast swath of southern Vancouver Island and the Lower Mainland, including Stanley Park.
h/t Kevin B
I wish them every success. And I know for a fact that both Montreal’s Westmount area Ottawa’s Rockliffe Park were sacred sites and were unfairly taken from the Indians.
Pretty sure the Beaches in Toronto was an ancient burial ground and a sacred site also, for about 3 miles around the area.
When you dream, dream big, really big. Many moons have passed and many more will pass before the Indians can take the lands the white man has worked to develop and pay for through taxation of those who work for a living.
For starters, these folks should lay claim to the various Suzuki properties scattered around the province – the good Doctor understands your plight and will not let silly things like property rights interfere with your sacred quest.
No need to thank me!
All the Indians were pantheists. They believe/believed that the universe (or nature as the totality of everything) is identical with divinity, or that everything composes an all-encompassing, immanent God/Spirit/Spirits. Thus all the land they ever put their moccasins on was sacred, and all of them refer to themselves in their traditional stories as the Original People that the Great Spirit made.
That said, all the Treaties extinguish the Indian claims to the land, all of it. The treaties actually use that word, extinguished. Your characterization of Montreal’s Westmount area Ottawa’s Rockliffe Park as ‘being taken unfairly’ are without foundation.
BC is a different story. The Crown Colony of BC did not establish treaties with the Indians. Thus the Indians of BC have, at one time maybe still, laid claims on 110% of the Province of British Columbia.
Big spike in aboriginal women behind bars, government study finds
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/canada/big-spike-in-aboriginal-women-behind-bars-government-study-finds-284506291.html
If I had land anywhere in B.C. and especially on lake shores, etc., I’d be concerned. There is no telling what sort of lunacy we will start to see in that province.
It’s not just “sacred” sites that are at issue. Native bands have had a land claim against the old Kapyong Barracks in Winnipeg for years now. It sits largely abandoned even though the land is desperately needed for the widening of Kenaston Avenue. I’m not aware that the land was ever sacred; more likely it’s just a valuable piece of property that’s ripe for a shakedown at the expense of federal taxpayers.
The more land claims, the merrier. When the urban masses awaken to what their progressive politics and court system has unleashed perhaps they will rethink their narrative about rights and title that were, in effect extinguished by conquest if not by treaty or de-facto surrender. Ever since BC Chief Justice McEachern’s ruling was intentionally lost in appeal, it has been a one way trip into ceding Crown sovereignty away towards the madness of revisionist inspired reverse apartheid (3% minority 1/16 threshold racial ownership of all of Canada with the majority as “slaves” feeding the thoroughly apartheid-debauched “master” race).
I think we should give it to them. Put everyone living there on treaty cheques paid by the band and let the band figure out how to provide health care, education, infrastructure etc.. If they do a great job, give them the whole damn country. It’s not going to take much to outperform the existing government services.
As a Canadian friend of mine put it, and how it works in the real world… “sucks getting conquered”.
When Zork and Grok, the two purple alien explorers from some planet in the Crab Nebula land on earth in the year 6834 AD, will there STILL be a Department of Native affairs and will there be someone with less than a thousandth of one percent of “native blood” still moaning about the evil white colonialists and that they are entitled to compensation for “Hoverboard Highways” that want to be constructed over some “sacred” muskeg where no one even lives?
Probably…..
The only sacred sites for Canadian Indians are Molson and Labatt breweries, no?
If they had any brains they’d lay claim to every liquor store in the province.
“Your characterization of Montreal’s Westmount area Ottawa’s Rockliffe Park as ‘being taken unfairly’ are without foundation. ”
And here I was, trying to be oh, so serious….
Here we go again. It’s not Canada’s fault. All of Canada was once arguably walked by the Indians. It’s time they must accept responsibility for their own fate and issues not keep saying “gimme more!” If not nothing will change. This group is dispossessed. It’d be interesting to discover why, the real reasons they were shunned/ostracized, etc.
Here we go again!!!!! It’s not always Canada’s fault. All of Canada was once arguably walked by the Indians. It’s time they must accept responsibility for their own fate and issues not keep saying “gimme more!” If not nothing will change. This group is dispossessed. It’d be interesting to discover why, the real reasons they were shunned/ostracized, etc.
Oh cum on now, give Ooz a break, north of 90 has vacated and Ooz is trying to fill the gap:-)))
on another note, the Indians didn’t have any writing, so were the h3ll do all these weird names come from that they use, or have they taken lessons from American blacks in that regard???
Kennewick man proves quite conclusively that the “first nations” claim is fictitious.
Additionally as John Chittick relates the McEachern decision-Delgamuuk still stands.
Give them downtown east side Vancouver and call it done. Let them provide for the residents. Stanley Park – no, Oppenheimer Park – you bet!
“They are the descendants of a powerful and feared tribe called the Lamalcha…”
So after millenia of warring with and conquering other tribes in the area, they are now upset because they were conquered.
WE HAVE A BINGO !!!
The Okanagan isn’t the only wine producing area in BC. “Give ush ar land beck!” can be heard across the province.
Nothing to see here. This is just the normal shake down. The government will pay them something and they’ll go away for a while.
At what point in the evolutionary process does a First Nations person stop being a First Nations person. What I mean is that the First Nations DNA is now so reduced as to be nearly extinct. I’d be prepared to negotiate with any legitimate First Nations person—that is one who can prove their DNA is more than 50% First Nations. Won’t be too many of them around.
I wonder when our government is going to wake up to this scam.
With the C02 induced global warming about to flood the coast, the only safe place for them to claim would be Mt. McKinley.
Okay, it’s a deal.
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it’s only fair… they already own a good chunk of the ocean…
Rocky Wilson, chief of Hwlitsum First Nation in Delta, B.C., said in an interview that he approves of the name because “it identifies the Coast Salish ownership of the sea.”
“The Salish Sea is an integral part of our culture, and our whole existence,” Mr. Wilson said.
of course, they didn’t know it at the time… like all illiterate stone age peoples, between warring on the guys over the next hill, taking the occasional captive slave and pondering what those new white guys were up to… they just scratched out a subsistence existence. but, don’t sweat it, that’s what retired marine biologists are for.
“They themselves didn’t ever have a name for this body of water,” Prof. Webber said. “But I was looking for a name that was unique to this area, and thought that to acknowledge the indigenous peoples who were here first would be an appropriate thing to do.”
yup… hand over that damn park.
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Maybe the solution is to get rid of all the taxpayer funded white lawyers. The whole issue would die a well earned natural death. Going with verbal testimony is about the dumbest thing our courts could have come up with, although I doubt if anyone is surprised that certain supreme court judges have a mental handicap in that only the left half of their brain is functional. Don’t really blame the Indians because it’s all money for nothing and the twits are free.
Was a good song too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBACayPm9ns
Don’t buy into the PC propaganda and don’t keep spreading it.
The aboriginals are NOT “First Nations”, they are at best first immigrants, nothing more.
time to cut off every single dime to indian affairs and indian reserves. let them do what the rest of us had to do. work, pay taxes, get an education, get off their collective azzes and provide for themselves. they might want to acknowledge that being a hunter gatherer is no longer a viable trade.
It would be interesting to find out who’s paying for all this. I suspect that it’s an American foundation.