to highlight our incompetence.
Alternate title, If you aren’t going to block flights, we’re going to quarantine entry.
Via Instapundit
to highlight our incompetence.
Alternate title, If you aren’t going to block flights, we’re going to quarantine entry.
Via Instapundit
Good on the states for doing what the federal government should be doing.
Here her insisting that she isn’t sick makes me want to—. There’s no way she can know for sure now. She isn’t far enough into the incubation period. She acknowledges this in the first of these two videos, saying no one can know if she “will develop” (i.e., has) ebola or not.
It has been falsely reported that she is ebola-negative. This is nonsense. They almost never culture patients for ebola. That can only be done in a very-high security bio-lab, as it is a dangerous thing to do. They almost always diagnosis it based on symptoms.
The doctor who wandered around New York on the subway, going out to eat, and bowling thought he wasn’t infected with ebola either, until he was. He kept on out and about town for a couple days past when his fever started. Only when it reached a certain threshold did he go to quarantine. A hell of a risk to take with other people’s lives!
Not to mention, what of the economic damage to the businesses he visited during that time?
Kaci Kickox’s optimism bias and self-entitlement is not a plan.
Good on New Jersey and other states for setting up the quarantine standards the federal government should.
In video two, she says, “This is not evidence based.” (I.e., it is commonly believed that ebola is not infectious unless the patient has a certain temperature.) BE THAT AS IT MAY, what is evidence-based is not everyone who has ebola can be counted upon to self-quarantine. Whereas if they are mandatorily quarantined until the incubation period is over, that danger is eliminated.
Her point would only be valid if people could be counted on to be infinitely vigilant, responsible, and altruistic. And no, I don’t take her word on it.
If you detected any contempt for or dislike of Kaci Hickox in this comment, triple it and you’re getting close.
P.S. I hope Christie’s, who I’m no fan of’s, attempt to save her family from possible exposure to ebola is unnecessary, and she goes home in good health at the end of the responsible and prudent quarantine period.
P.P.S. I’m not saying this is strictly medically necessary if everyone behaved perfectly. I’m saying the quarantine is a good idea because not everyone does.
It’s a start, if anything it represents the States standing up to Obola’s incompetency and disregard for the constitution.
Regardless, quarantining individual sick passengers on incoming flights from Africa is at best symbolic, especially with the wide open border to Mexico.
This reminds me of the debate over the Mexican border. Not only will the Obama administration not deal with the problem, they criticize and interfere with those states that do.
WTF does he and his lick-spittles know about medicine and protecting the USA?
It was amusing that the nurse who was quarantined yesterday was so upset. Have she been a decent medical person she would have known that quarantine is effective for Ebola and nothing else is. But this was all about her being the Great White Massa for the poor unenlightened. We tend to feel that the medical profession is not what it used to be; this is clearcut evidence.
The US Government may be incompetent but it is certainly malign. It wants a plague in the US. Its evil becomes clearer with every passing day.
It has certainly been racist for the CDC not to have developed an anti Ebola vaccine years ago.
As far as medical incompetence goes, I was reading a screed in the Daily Beast as to why Western doctors in Africa didn’t always use clean needles, or sterilize them. Of course each medic entering an African country could bring in a couple of thousand of them – prices no doubt have gone up but hypodermic needles used to be $4 per 100. Anyway, they apparently now cannot do what junkies do know how to do – sterilize their needles with a small flame, and their syringes with bleach.
I went to a 30 room or so school and we lined up like cattle to get our shots. There were hundred of used needles which were sterilized and used for the next school. I can see reusing needles in Africa where necessary but I can’t see not sterilizing them. In our world, the cost of sterilizing would be greater than the cost of new.
Despite all the protests a year ago about corruption and the ruling class, Brazilians re-elect the same Worker’s Party government. So much for Change. This just demonstrates to wrongness of obligatory voting and proportional representation.
http://www.correio24horas.com.br/detalhe/noticia/dilma-rousseff-derrota-aecio-e-se-reelege-presidente-do-brasil/?cHash=a55d4e2a13e87eddf4d0ea801320157f
Use Google Translate
Notice the trendline?
“The White House stopped short of calling on the governors to reverse their quarantine rules, but administration officials have made clear to the governors that they have concerns with unintended consequences of polices ————–not grounded in science————–”
Only the Obola White House has the correct science, of course, everybody else’s science is wrong, dontcha know!
A scary echoing of their climate agenda defense
Democrat New York Governor shifts his policy, disagrees with Democrat NYC Mayor de Blasio, and agrees with GOP New Jersey Governor Christie that henceforth medical personnel returning to state after treating Ebola patients in West Africa will be automatically subject to 21-day quarantine.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/25/nyregion/after-calling-for-calm-cuomo-joins-christie-in-ordering-some-quarantines.html
After viewing and listening to Nurse Kaci, I am strangely reminded of Nurse Ratched in Ken Kesey’s novel “One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest”. It’s probably the movie that makes me think that way…..
For returning medical personnel, it’s all about “Risk”. The risk that they might be infected, even if that risk is low, must be balanced against the high risk of spreading it to the general population if they are in fact infected. Lots of things in life …. low risk of failure but high consequences if failure occurs … are like this.
One would have thought that Nurse Kaci would have a concern (and act accordingly) that if she was somehow infected, those closest to her (i.e, family, friends, lovers) would be at a high risk of dying.
Yeah, this. This is part of my contempt for her.
What is disturbing are the numerous unconfirmed reports of what are alleged infections that have been “disappeared” recently….
This could an attempt to incite panic….
It could be indications that the situation is worse than advertised.
Scepticism is my default position…..Wadda ya do?
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
I’m beginning to think a little panic might be just the thing right now. Shut down a few airports, quarantine a couple thousand people, get some proper kit to front-line medical and rescue people, these are things that if they were done would pretty much stop any possible outbreak NOW before anyone else dies.
A nice bit of panic would get that done.
A panic -later-, after the disease really gets going, would be a complete waste.
As to patients “disappearing”, that would indicate an organized and effective group doing something useful in a coordinated and competent manner. I therefore strongly doubt this is the case. Because everything this administration has done since 2008 has been one titanic cluster f-.
Think Fast & Furious.