Now we just need someone to go in and shoot them: The action means Canadian fighters in Syria and Iraq may effectively be stranded there. Their passports are no longer valid and cannot be used to return to Canada.
Meanwhile, we await a response from The Shiny Pony Party…
Don’t let the door hit you where Allah split you, buh bye. Please take your friends and cousins with you.
Proving once again the Trudeau doesn’t know his A&& from his elbow. Stupid cannot be cured or legislated.
I am a bit disappointed that they don’t allow all of them to leave the country prior to revoking their passports. It would be an improvement.
Almost inevitably there’s going to be a lot of parallels drawn between the fate of the MacKenzie-Papineaus and those wandering off to fight for the Caliphate. Like the jihadis, the Canadian government denounced their participating as illegal and sanctioned the veterans in various ways after their return.
But there’s a very real difference. The M-Ps went over to fight evil, while the jihadis are going over to fight for evil. Fact that the King government was wrong in the 1930s does not mean the Canadian government is wrong to sanction these people now.
Watch for a run on stolen passports….
Liberals legislate stupidity at every opportunity.
Watch now for the Clayton Ruby’s and other dirt balls coming out of the woodwork to stand in support of the terrorists.
This is all going to blow up in Trudeau’s face when one of our returning jihadists gets to work on Canadian soil…
The Mac Paps fought for a bigger evil than they fought against. Spain was a hell of a lot better off under Franco than it would have been under the alternative at the time.
Commies tried to take over Spain, Franco stopped them. Although he ruled as a dictator for a rather long time, he was the one who re-established a democratic government. When in the history of forever has a commie regime done that?
The Mac-Pap story has been nicely idealized.
We overlook the fact that the Spanish Civil War involved a proxy confrontation between fascists and communists, the two great ideological scourges of the 20th Century.
A goodly number of those Mac-Paps were communist ideologues.
Does this mean we can’t enlist to go shoot them, too?
If the Shiny Pony/Trudeau of Just Causes comes out against this move by the Harper Government be sure he’ll be quoting his Sire’s Charter and also know for sure where he hopes to garner votes. If this is what the Liberal party has come to they are a danger to this country. IMO we haven’t had a dumber leader of a party who aspires/is being pushed to be PM in our history, most had a modicum of sense on safety and security and even knew that budgets do not balance themselves.
“…he was the one who re-established a democratic government. When in the history of forever has a commie regime done that?”
Gorbachev came pretty close.
No sense wasting any bullets on these pieces of human pondscum.
Much better to encourage them to blow themselves and a bunch of other jihadis up to Allah heaven with all those virgins.
That way we get a multiple kill factor and no bullets will be harmed in ridding the planet of this scourge.
“…he was the one who re-established a democratic government.”
He did no such thing. It was his successor Juan Carlos who did that. All you’re doing is illustrating the close proximity that you and JJM have to fascism.
“The action means Canadian fighters in Syria and Iraq may effectively be stranded there.”
We can always dream!
“All you’re doing is illustrating the close proximity that you and JJM have to fascism.”
Oh, put a sock in it.
Here’s my view of either side in the Spanish Civil War: a pox on both their houses.
How did his successor come to power? Franco put him there under the understanding that Juan Carlos would do what he did. The country is now a constitutional monarchy a la the UK.
I am not a fascist, but I would much rather have lived in Franco’s Spain than any communist state the planet. My grand parents emigrated from England to Spain during the Franco period and had a happy and peaceful retirement there. There are not many people emigrating to communist states. Lots of Europeans went to live in Spain under Franco.
The more that leave for jihad to these Islamic Utopias,the better for Canada
We still should be looking for the root cause (:
“….also revoked the passports of several Canadians who had not yet left the country but who had intended to travel…”
What??
Why invalidate those that have not yet left?
Actually doesn’t sound legal to hold anyone in-country, just because you think they’re going somewhere else to do something you may not like.
Could you imagine if Justin Turdeau had that sort of power? Forget trying to leave Canada because of a 90% tax bracket.
Let them OUT for f*ck sakes!
The National Post isn’t permitting comments?
So their Canadian passports are invalid. And this will stop them from boarding a plane in Syria or wherever and flying here how? And once here they can claim refugee status then disappear in the huge insular Canadian Muslim community. Thousands fly here annually without passports. What an empty gesture by Harper.
It’s a good start.
“…Actually doesn’t sound legal to hold anyone in-country, …”
There’s a law that says they can revoke their passports, so it is legal to do so. It doesn’t mean they are actually held in the country, but they’ll have a hard time finding conventional travel services, especially airlines, that will take them, and the next border they come to they aren’t vouched for by Canada.
BINGO…It may sound isolationist,however STOP all immigration from outside of Canada NOW. And round up and deport all the illegals,whether from the ME or Barbados or wherever. And shove Trudeau 1 Charter up Turdeau 2 a@@hole!!.
cgh, “The M-Ps went over to fight evil,” Not so.
I would debate this. Usually I agree with you but you are way out to lunch on this one. The M-Ps were almost all communists and went to Spain to fight at Uncle Joe’s behest. The King government was right in sanctioning these people, and it is sad that they have been rehabilitated. But we know why current leaders feel the need to rehab the M-Ps, as many of them have the same ideology.
I wrote the above before reading minuteman’s and JJM’s comments and totally concur with their great comments. Fascists? Hogwash!
Franco stepped down as minuteman said at 3:53 to make way for a democratic form of government. Little did he know that the Marxists would ultimately triumph.
In the meantime, this is a great move by PM Harper’s government.
Absolutely right. If they want to leave that badly, best they do so and cause havoc somewhere else rather than here. The key thing which the government has got right is NOT to let them back in here.
And you’re right about not holding them here against their will. We do not run a country like a prison camp. We also don’t punish people before they’ve actually done something. We want only those that are happy to be here. The rest can leave any time they like with my encouragement.
“The M-Ps were almost all communists and went to Spain to fight at Uncle Joe’s behest.”
Exactly, Ken.
“A Communist peace kills more than anti-Communist war.”
Richard M. Nixon; No More Vietnams
Understand clearly what you are saying. You are stating that there’s no difference between the M-Ps who believed they were fighting for a democracy under threat by fascism and a gang of jihadis going over to Iraq and Syria under the impression they are fighting for the most brutal regime in the world since the Khmer Rouge.
Have you ever read anything about the Spanish communists treatment of nuns and priests in the civil war? Yes, the Mac Pap’s were fighting for an ideology every bit as evil as ISIS. They might have been useful idiots – as George Orwell realized he was after spending some time in Spain – and not realized it, but they were.
There were lots of communists and sympathizers all over the western world in the 20’s and 30’s. Some were genuinely evil, the others were just stupid, The Mac Paps and other “international Brigade” troops were recruited from these people. They don’t get nearly the publicity of the International brigade, but a lot of volunteers fought on the other side in that war also.
Here we have “Obama North”……both of them are wearing Depends. Back under the bed Justin !!
Justine continues to campaign for the muslim vote and the low info voters in Toronto and southern Ontario. If he is successful he may even become Prime Minister unless Mulcair can keep enough seats in Quebec.
What he and his Lieberal manipulators don t seem to realize is that everything west of Ontario the land of Canadas newest lobbyist, will be so alienated that the country will be all but ungovernable. Daddys arrogance and Mommies brains at work for Canadians
Tooner >
“There’s a law that says they can revoke their passports, so it is legal to do so.”
Yes, I get that, but as per “cgh” – “We do not run a country like a prison camp.”
There is nowhere in the world outside of the US southern states that will allow someone in without a passport. In effect when you cancel a citizens passport you’ve trapped them in-country.
Why would you trap a paedophilic mass murderer in your community with your children? Never forget that as a real Canadian especially a “white” Canadian you can’t legally touch them without loosing EVERYTHING!
Yea, I’d say Harper dropped the ball on this one!
If everyone can stop arguing over the communists who fought in Spain and Franco for a few moments, invalidating passports is at the very least a stop-gap measure. The chances are that these thugs will be killed in one form or another so they are no loss. However, they can produce a convincing enough facsimile of a passport and try to re-enter Canada or some other Western nation. If that happens, then what does one do? What does the law allow? How does one punish a child rapist/murderer who fought for ISIS and the people who may have organised or facilitated their mission? Trudeau would troll in hell for votes and get them. Let the rest of the electorate must be reminded that a vote for Trudeau really is a vote for the kind of noxious thuggery and murder we are witnessing now. Never let Liberal voters forget they helped by being willfully blind to this.
“Watch for a run on stolen passports….”
Very astute. Many bogus Club Canada memberships are in the wind, expect the support network these Jihadis have here in Canada to welcome them back and build upon these Saudi backed Sand-dune Snowbirds when they return.
We need to put them in all into internment camps somewhere cold like Nunavut.
How much of Canada are we going to let them have?
Nunavut, says I.
I applaud Harper’s move to revoke the passports of those who would leave Canada to conduct terror elsewhere. BUT this would only be effective against those who are not dual-nationals. For those who were born in Canada, it would work, but for immigrants who have received Canadian citizenship, there’s a problem: their passport from their ‘home’ country. For whatever reason, immigrants who become Canadian citizens can still maintain their originating country’s passport and we can’t revoke that. Track it, perhaps, but not revoke it.
“For whatever reason, immigrants who become Canadian citizens can still maintain their originating country’s passport and we can’t revoke that. Track it, perhaps, but not revoke it.”
Er, gee, perhaps because Canada has no authority over the citizenship laws of another sovereign state?
What I was saying and what you apparently missed, is the misuse of the immigrant’s original passport. That immigrants who become Canadian citizens can maintain – and renew – their original passports leads to massive fraud on our social services. And yes, I’ve seen it. Lots of it. My view is once you take the citizenship oath, that’s it. No dual nationality.
“My view is once you take the citizenship oath, that’s it. No dual nationality.”
Again, the Canadian government has no authority over the citizenship laws of another sovereign state and therefore no say in whether a Canadian citizen holds another passport or not. I really don’t know what you mean about “massive fraud on our social services”; what exactly does holding a foreign passport have to do with it? Details, please.
The only way Canada could ever prevent Canadian citizens from having dual nationality is by:
1. Revoking the Canadian citizenship of any Canadian who holds or obtains citizenship in another country.
2. Ending all immigration and naturalization forever.
Good luck with that, my friend.