Conservative MP Rob Anders has lost his nomination fight to former Alberta MLA Ron Liepert. Canada’s authoritative voice on all things conservative, the Toronto Star, is overjoyed.
Conservative MP Rob Anders has lost his nomination fight to former Alberta MLA Ron Liepert. Canada’s authoritative voice on all things conservative, the Toronto Star, is overjoyed.
I don’t know what to make of this.
By all accounts the EDA of Anders’ riding wanted him gone.
However, between Liepert’s victory, and Barlow winning McLeod a few weeks back, it looks very much like a red tory takeover of the CPC. On the conservative oriented firearm forum where I normally spent most of my time, there is a lot of anger at the CPC for abandoning their base. There is concern that the party is heading to where the PCs were before we decided to stop showing up to vote for them.
I hope Harper is still in charge and that he still remembers why the PC party disappeared.
This will be amusing if Rob Anders runs as an independent and wins. There’s only a fleeting mention of that possibility in another report I’d read in the Calgary Herald. I don’t know if there will be a push for it as Rob’s been in the game for 17 years now.
Liepert’s comments of Jason Kenny wading in to give his endorsement of Rob are strange, he seems to overlook PMSH also endorsing Rob Anders, yet has nothing to say about PMSH not, “minding his own business” (Liepert’s words). Jason Kenney remains a hero to the right wing of the Conservative Party so no doubt Liepert knows who is his base. That is, not too far from Joe Clarke’s.
Good luck with that Liepert.
I’m no longer in this riding, but I’m more closely aligned with Anders than Liepert.
old Lori… agreed.
Well stated.
The thing is the CPC don’t have a clue how the gun grab in High River has changed politics in Alberta.
Harper has been away from the West to long.
Red Tories are worse than liberals. They are better at hiding their greed.
Pretending to care for the Nation when its their cronies they look after.
Albertan’s disgust at this is shown only to well at Redfords ouster.
We are sick to death of these socialist thieves & ideological parasites.
Not much the national organization can do. Harper weighed in and endorsed Anders which is fair but anything more than that and you risk having a party run out of hq. If you don’t like the results at the EDA level then sign up and vote. It sucks we lost Anders though.
My wife and I don’t live in that riding, but we’ve decided we aren’t voting Conservative because of this. We’ve talked about voting for one of the non-major parties like the Family Coalition or the Libertarians, and I’m leaning Family because the social issues are more important than the economic in my view.
Where’s our yearly royalty check like people living in Alaska get annually. The tories have given it to the unions,and their voters.Where’s our beer and popcorn money, someone has it in their pockets.
The writer at the probably wet himself writing the column.
Nothing wrong with Rob Anders running as an independent so the red
tory interloper crashes and burns on a split vote. The people deserve
a chance to reject hijackers who show up under false colours looking
for the easy path to climb onto the gravy train.
This seems short sighted. Why would you alter your vote when you don’t even live in the riding? Conservatives everywhere do not deserve to be punished for the decision in one riding.
The thing is, there is choice of no choice.
Anders is a kind of rock the boat character, he was rocking the boat less of late. Probably was told by the ruling class to cool it.
One thing that Canadian political class needs is someone to poke needles into them. Anders was good at that. The Mandela thing is that people have right to their opinion, even if it upsets those that go with the flow.
Anders is a likable kind of guy, no nonsense and somewhat, as they say, rough around the edges.
Liepert is some kind of hillbilly, talks like a real everyday idiot.
Will see how he gets along with the rest of the crowd in Ottawa. Should be right at home with the socialist/fascist and the liberals. Told Kenny not to stick his nose into the local contest and butt out.
Not very clever when Kenny seem to be looked at as a rather able kind of guy.
Liepert was minister of health here and screwed things up something fierce. Don’t know if it was he that was responsible of blowing 250 mil on healthcare consultants. Is in the same vein as recently departed premier of the province. Fully progressive socialist, nothing conservative about him.
There is one problem that seem to be not solvable at this time. The politicians are in it for their own benefit, regardless how they beat their chests that they want to save the world.
There is a serious lack of decent quality leaders. Just look at the Liberal wacko.
Can anyone come up with one?
As noted above… I wonder how the members of this riding who voted for Liepert will feel when he crosses the floor to join Justin. Or McLeod, when Barlow does this. I don’t think it’s it’s an entirely implausible thing.
I’d rather have a liberal in that seat than a fifth columnist.
Leipert is one of the reasons the provincial PCs are in the mess they are in. Do we really want him screwing up the national Conservative Party as well? How many liberals followed their time honoured trick and took out Conservative membership to vote Anders out and Leipert in? Were I PM Harper I would be very tempted not to sign his nomination papers.
Talking about leadership or lack of thereof, listen to this, the interesting part begins at minute 7:30.
It is just too bad that it wasn’t so.
Sorry forgot to include the link
http://www.newstalk770.com/audio-on-demand-2/
It only takes one.
When all your political choices stink, change your name to None of the above surname ZZ1-320. To ensure you appear at the very bottom of the ballot.
Unless the conservatives recognize their problem, there is no disloyalty in taking out a slime ball masquerading as here to help.
We have suffered years of these cretins helping us.
Reform did not work, the merged party has developed all the foul logic of the Mulroney Era.
We are still being robbed blind by a government who does not share our interests.
Where went the full repeal of C68?
Where for property rights? Castle laws?
What about equality before the law?
What we have is Kleptocracy, at a cost that exceeds the benefit of civilization.
Basic maths should constrain theft by bureaucracy, but we are governed by fools and bandits who know no limit to their greed.
Like one above said; hope Anders runs as an independant. He could take the riding by the sounds of things. Rather an Indie or splitting the vote works for me. Keep the infiltrators out!
A few notes…
#1. Rob Anders was loved for his ideology by the hardcores, including myself. Nevertheless, he was in that riding far too long and was becoming just another trough dweller who said the stuff the hardcores liked to hear.
Saw pictures of his new house, it isn’t even in the riding, and it’s massive and overwhelming.
Why does a single guy his age need a mansion like that?
Answer: He doesn’t.
#2. This link… http://www.opinionyyc.ca/2014/04/conservative-members-should-be-okay.html
#3. Liepert will be a backbench fart-catcher as long as Harper is in charge. I’d be surprized if he even speaks to Liepert period. The guy is poison and he’ll be stuck in the corner with no one to listen to him, expected to vote the party line…or else.
Also, Liepert is 64 so he’ll buster and boast, but he’ll do what he’s told for a term or two in order to get his easy money.
Nothing will come of this.
it looks very much like a red tory takeover of the CPC
The Red Tory takeover happened several years ago. That was the ‘merger’, which was really a surrender. Harper sold out his party to the PCs so he could be in charge. Today’s event was just part of the mop-up operation.
Anders was a bad MP and a dummy. I’m glad he’s gone but his replacement is also awful and just cements statist control of the CPC, although that was a done deal anyway.
“…Why does a single guy his age need a mansion like that? …”
Why do you need to be someone who decides whether someone else’s house is the correct size for them?
The next election will be fought over 30 more seats than in 2011, 338 seats instead of 308.
15 of those new seats are in Ontario.
3 are in Quebec.
6 are in Alberta.
6 are in B.C.
Problem came with the PC and CPC merger. The EDA Association accepts memberships until hours before the vote, a silly old PC hangover. Now anyone with the ability to walk into the EDA office with a few $thousand worth of membership applications carries the day.
Even the NDP has a respectable qualification period.
This Riding will most likely be lost in the next election because the new would be MP will have no campaign workers.
Seen it before.
Glad I didn’t have to be one of the people choosing between those two jackasses. It has nothing to do with whether they are “blue” or “red” tories, they’re both just boobs.
When we had Liepert as our minister of health here, his nickname in the department was “Ready, Aim, Shoot”. The belief was that he was deliberately sent in to the ministry to destabilise it. There were people in the department who were ready to strangle him when he finally was shown the door.
Sorry, I meant to say his nickname was “Ready, Shoot, Aim”.
He was beaten 3-1 wasn’t he? I guess the people have spoken.
I’m of two minds with this, firstly he was an international embarrassment, a world grade cretin really, but on the other hand he was an embarrassment you could paint Tories with. So he had his uses I suppose.
the new would be MP will have no campaign workers.
The only way to keep them honest.
Doubt we’ve seen the last of Anders, he could still run as an Independent. If I were in that riding I’d vote for him ahead of Liepert, at least he’s a know quantity, he doesn’t pretend to be something he isn’t.
Rob was one of the last remnants of the Reform merger with the eastern PC political cabal to form the CPC
– as an out spoken true conservative, and unrepentant Reformer, Rob was relegated to back bench obscurity in the Harper caucus (as all devoted reformers were) because of the discomfiture this causes in the Ottawaization of the CPC – party fixers don’t want any reform ethics back-lighting the work of the party mechanics who are sculpting a slick top-down Ottawa style brokerage party to rival the old Librano machine. So Rob has largely been sitting as a semi-independent member on the back benches with no committee work, and I guess the new progressia sweeping the upscale Signal Hill riding assn, want a rep at the CPC cabinet table to funnel vote bait into the riding – meh so it goes – in a few years you won’t be able to tell the CPC apart from the Alberta PCs – or Liberals for that matter.
True conservatives really have nowhere to park a vote these days, Rob Anders is one of the last remnants of an era of “principled” conservatism which has been dissolved by the corrosive forces of Ottawa compromised values. Maybe he will run for leader of Wild Rose?
Saw pictures of his new house, it isn’t even in the riding, and it’s massive and overwhelming.
Why does a single guy his age need a mansion like that?
Answer: He doesn’t.
Since when does a ‘conservative’ declare proprietary knowledge regarding the needs, desires, and dimensions of the housing tastes of another individual.
[Liepert]”Is in the same vein as recently departed premier of the province.”
Before the 2004 federal election, Anders CPC candidacy was challenged by future Alberta Premier Allison Redford. Redford’s campaign was run by Ron Liepert.
The constituents of Signal Hill need to be reminded of that Liepert is cut from the same cloth as Redford.
Well, it looks like I can now return to the CPC fold. I have voted “Green” since Mr. Anders became our MP. I have always had a low opinion of his actions. BTW, I would have voted “Rhino” if there had been a candidate in our riding, but “green” is the next best choice.
The only thing I am going to say is I also hope Mr Anders runs as an independent. He certainly does not lack for funds to run a campaign and has very high name recognition in the riding. If he truly does have broad support he should win easily. If he does not run it will be an admission that he knows he was doomed to lose anyway and all the talk of red infiltration was specious. My guess is he will not run outside of the umbrella of the CPC. It must be noted that Anders could have — and likely did — do exactly the same thing he accuses the other side of doing; Signing up everyone including the family dog to vote in the nomination.
Those of who threaten to WASTE your vote because you don’t like one conservative or another … Do not complain when the liberals come for your first-born and your truck.
Grow up … The left does not do that stupid stuff and that is why they win more often in this country. We need to win in order to have a shot at maintaining our freedoms and individual prosperity.
Liepert is talking on the radio this morning, proclaiming his socialist propaganda. The guy grew up in Saskatchewan the socialism is in his blood, he can’t see things other than what was beaten into his head in the socialist run schools.
Talking demagoguery in sense that he knows what people want, though politicians do this as a matter of fact, they don’t need to think to say it, it just comes as though it coded into their twisted brains.
The guy talks exactly the same socialist ideology as the current minister of finance in Alberta, they both spelled it out, though you may get the sense that it is in their agenda as manifesto.
They both said the exact the same thing, “we are progressive”.
Of course the omission of conservative is intentional, they got into the party as basic socialists, since they could not get elected on socialist platform.
As to where Anders lives: nobody’s bloody business.
Anders pension will eclipse say what a 17 year vet of the military gets who lost a limb in Afganistan and leaves the service. That vet doesn’t get a pension.
So Rob, since you have nothing to lose how about raising hell and getting that stupid Conservative policy reversed or does Rob just call vets NDP hacks when they call him out for sleeping on the job? I’m tired of Cons wanting the troops around for photo ops but when it comes time to pay the bill of the trauma they suffered they claim they have no special social contract with them.
Yep, there has been a bit of a decline in conservativwe politics over the years. Compare and contrast:
Churchill — led the fight to destroy fascism
Reagan/Thatcher — led the fight to destroy communism
Harper/Cameron — ducked the fight to destroy political correctness.
Looking for a leader? I would bring a microscope if you’re looking at sitting MPs.
Don’t know much about Anders but if he questioned the Nelson Mandela self-congratulatory pointless act, good on him. Anders for PM !!
“Liepert is 64 so he’ll buster and boast, but he’ll do what he’s told for a term or two in order to get his easy money”.
Just make sure he only gets one term and there’s no pension. He has to win 2 elections to get the prize. Revenge can be soooooo sweet.
“The guy grew up in Saskatchewan the socialism is in his blood, he can’t see things other than what was beaten into his head in the socialist run schools.”
Hello. Lev, MANY of us grew up in Saskatchewan. Your posting was fine except for that deviation from rational thought.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwHJP-rG9Do
You are the first round know the power of independent mind from Saskatchevan.
Good, more power to you.
Although you should not depend on what me thinks. It is probably worth about twice cents and you know what happened to the center.
If you find this incoherent its only half me the other half is blackberry tablet that writes all by itself.
What bothers me is that Liepert is an idiot who is guaranteed to say something totally stupid all the time. He’s already challenged Harper and Kenny. Don’t sign his nomination, Stevie. Then we could get to hear Barney Fife whining about democracy on Sunday morning.
If my “Conservative” candidate isn’t Conservative I’m not voting for him and I’ll make sure he/she knows it when they ask for my vote.
If I have to vote for an Independent or small party candidate to exercise my franchise than so be it.
Thanks, Lev:-) Don’t forget that Saskatchewan is now an economic powerhouse, thanks to a change in the provincial government.
Calgary has become so “progressive” (proud of it too) these days its a good chance neither of these guys will win this seat.
Harper has been in Ottawa to long now. Most of his MPs along with himself, have been Ottawashed with a big O.
The Alberta MPs have lost it seems any connection with its inhabitants long ago.