Authorities said they suspected that the victims were abducted as part of a battle among rival, small-bit drug dealers. Families insisted their loved ones were not involved with drugs, but all were from the notorious Tepito neighborhood, known for counterfeiting and other criminal activities.
That’s low, even for you
… or perhaps, especially from you.
http://youtu.be/WJ_yQ02xwsM
His pot would have come from a grow op in Calgary or BC.
Unlike Harper, I think that pot possession needs to be decriminalized, however that is a far different thing that the “legalization” Pony Boy is pimping for his brethren in the marijuana party. As it stands now the so-called war on drugs including a soft drug like pot akin to alcohol, has expanded the police state – allowing swat raids and no-knock warrant search and seizure of homes for as little as suspicion of 1 joint. The search ans seizure provisions in the illicit drug act are identical to those in the firearms act – a draconian way to treat citizens. What needs to be done is to decriminalize growing and possessing small quantities of pot for personal use only – public intoxication/driving and selling and dealing is still criminal with larger penalties.
The point is to get the cops out of our living rooms and sniffing our breath and at the same time put the crime bosses and gangs out of business by making their product lawful to possess. I think this has to be done but all the details have to be sketched in before we act – I don’t think an air head like the Pony child has the capacity to think these details out so any pot legalization agenda in his hands would be nothing but a crass vote buying scheme and a dangerous half-baked law.
Nof60….read the headline again.
And in case you still do not get it…..
Justin Trudeau’s VICTIMLESS Crime
The deeper points here 60 is the pot usually comes from somewhere and Justy is a flyweight. No matter how hard the pathetic media try to puff up Justys credibility, he couldn’t carry Harpers briefing papers without a training wheeled dolly. Here in Calgary the last week on QR they have two morning hosts I tried to listen to, but the issues were Tim Horton coffee lids and other limp topics, then in the afternoon they have replaced Adler with that walking left dangling circumcision Dave Taylor who went on and on about how mean Harper is, and he should smoke pot to be cool like Justy. Well I didn’t know that QR was bought by the Toronto Star, but I’m thankful for satellite radio, after 20 plus years of fairly decent grown up issues QR has devolved into Justy cheerleading, as I said to their boss, Voss, good luck turning intelligent hard working Alberta into dopey transfer sucking payments Ontario, we are not that stupid to fall for Justy out here.
So legalizing and taxing it will make everything better. Right! The police forces of the world that can not shut this down will magically figure out how to enforce the tax code around it. I suppose the drug cartels will voluntarily send in their taxes. It would be a trifecta Kids should not smoke, drink or due drugs unless they send us money first. They may as well tax prostitution and cash in there to.
It is hard enough being a father with out these remedial gym rejects adding to it.
Grass is pretty much legal in BC now anyway with the number of medical permits they are issuing. The legalized growers simply sell to anyone who wants it. The biggest complaint is that is driving the retail price down as the market is flooded.
Justin Turdeau was recently in Nelson so I am sure he was well stocked with Kootenay Gold. He should be real coherent when next Parliament convenes. The fact this guy is seriously consider a potential PM of Canada shows how corrupt our political process has become.
Why is there no police investigation and charges? The guy admitted to being a marijuana using junky. Last time I heard that was illegal. Perhaps the dickhead needs his door kicked in at 4:00 AM to show a statist Liberal what democracy and freedom is all about.
Possession and trafficking are illegal criminal code offences, using is not.
“I suppose the drug cartels will voluntarily send in their taxes.”
~Arthur Dent
When alcohol prohibition was repealed(Volstead Act 19th Amendment), the gangsters stopped their bombings and machine gunning people in barber shops, eateries, etc. and went into legitimate liquor production and sales for which they paid taxes. The alcohol purveyors will do the same because it’s cheaper to use the police/courts for business disputes than to maintain armies for protection and settling their own business disagreements.
correction:
The DRUG purveyors will do the same…
The number of people who have been harmed or killed by drug dealers/gangs … is nothing compare to the harm, and illness and death brought about by alcohol use. Let’s keep things in perspective. Pot has never killed anyone. Bad people who deal drugs do sometimes kill their competitors and occasional by-standers. Drunk drivers indiscriminately kill moms and dads and kids and even their pets in the tens of thousands each year.
I would be far more worried about a drinker than a smoker. In Turdeau’s case, I fear his stupidity and socialist philosophy but then I repeat myself.
The greatest harm done regarding pot use is the hundreds of billions of tax dollars that have been wasted chasing, arresting and jailing peaceful citizens who simply like to have a puff instead of a martini. Many of us need a puff to cope with the insanity that is now our world.
So Trudeau was tootin’ coke now? Because that’s what the Mexican cartels trade in more than anything.
Come on, there are more than enough fronts on which to attack the shiny haircut guy – such as his apparently voting to increase penalties for possession while indulging in the stuff – without indulging in this sort of misdirected straw-man stuff. Making a serious fuss out of simply smoking pot plays to the yokels who think “Reefer Madness” was a documentary.
Oz,
One problem with that …. anyone can produce quality pot in their home or garden. Alcohol doesn’t allow for that. Alcohol can be controlled by governments, pot cannot and moreover, big pharma can’t patent it’s use and pot has cut into their particular brand of drug dealing. Who need Celebrex when you can take a couple of drops of cannabis oil and have far better results with no unpleasant side effects. Who needs a tranquilizer when you can have a puff and go to sleep. Who needs a gut destroying pain pill when there is THC available to do the same thing only harmlessly.
There is no real solution to this problem, other than government getting out of the way and treat pot growing and using the same way they treat abortion …. no law …. just decriminalization.
Sometimes freedom is messy, but it’s always beautiful.
Many of us need a puff to cope with the insanity that is now our world.
Heh, the more you ‘puff’, the more you can’t cope.
I have no use for JT but linking this to him is a low blow in my opinion. Governments should pick their battles and use some common sense. They lost this one decades ago along with the potential to tax the hell out of it. No better or worse than alcohol. Moderation is still the key.
Well, Strad, After 50 years of successful self-employment and small business success, I am retired on my own dime. I ‘puffed’ my way through life without prescription drugs, or alcohol. I am 70 and I enjoy good health. I know many others who have ‘puffed’ their way through their lives and they are all successful people who raised good kids and stayed married. It is just another life style that you should be more tolerant of. Don’t be such a close minded liberal.
Besides, you helped enrich the criminals…helped them hook the next generation.
Good for you…
Strad we enrich criminals every time we pay our taxes. Wise up.
Pot has always been available from the mom and pop operations that are in the thousands in BC for certain. Those aren’t criminals, they are often folks who would be on welfare if not for their little operations.
A message to all social conservatives of the Strad variety. The social issues you don’t like such as abortion, gay marriage and other such things are here to stay. You aren’t going to change anyones mind about their morality. That is why conservatives will have harder time getting elected in the future. Give it up … stick to issues concerning economy and security and infrastructure. That is the real job of government, not whether we should smoke pot or have an abortion. Those moral issues must be dealt with in the homes and churches, not in the public arena.
The Libertarian movement understands that. You don’t.
I wonder how much of the ‘legal and government inspected’ stuff will be sold when for a decent price you can get the enhanced stuff (laced with cocain or whatever) just a few steps down the block. I’m told it works better and faster, whatdya say Justin?? And the government will protect your children thru photo ID? Sure. I remember some decades back when I had to wait till I was 21 to buy beer. Never tasted the stuff until I was 21 years old!!
Strad we enrich criminals every time we pay our taxes.
Yes, but you do it voluntarily…how clever is that? heh
Just. Say. No.
I have a theory. The more liberal a province is towards drugs, the crazier the people in that province are.
Agree or disagree? Open for discussion. Empirical evidence would help prove or disprove it.
Justin Trudeau’s Victimless non-Crime is still competely victimless. The criminals here are governments that enforce prohibition and create all this violence. I hope Lance is wearing something that goes with the blood on his hands.
Just. Say. No.
No.
I have a theory. The more liberal a province is towards drugs, the crazier the people in that province are.
WA and CO are objectively saner than CA and most of the US NE. Your ‘theory’ is wrong.
LAS. Proof, if were needed, that dope destroys brain cells.
Yet more casualties in the insane “War of Drugs”.
Oops. “on”, not “of”
Equating Mexican drug cartel crimes with our “pot” culture could also be turned around to blame our “gun” culture for those same crimes.
So,I won’t bother with that one.
Marijuana has never been legalized because governments know there is no way they can create a monopoly,made up of their friends,to cash in on it.
And for those naive people who think Justin will legalize it,not likely.I’ll enjoy your disappointment if he ever (God forbid) gets the chance.
He might decriminalize it, but that’s as far as he’ll go. You are being pandered to by a politician who has no platform, no experience, and nothing else to offer but “coolness”.
Oz “Possession and trafficking are illegal criminal code offences, using is not.”
Is that like having your cake and eating it too? Using without possessing? You tell em Oz Antoinette.
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well said, the so called conservatives in here want less gov’t, until they want the gov’t to force their version of correct social behavior on the rest of the citizens
Yeah because same sex “marriage” primary education, “anti-bullying” legislation, wear-a-pink shirt awareness raising days, “hate speech” prosecutions, etc are certainly not “gov’t forcing their version of correct social behavior on the rest of the citizens”, but purely grassroots popular consent realized in our institutions. Wake up!
But you’re probably right. That stuff appears here to stay. Until the inevitable collapse that is. Enjoy the decline…
You get a bingo.
Er… you know you’re just making the case for legalization by pointing this out, right? Besides the quest for cognitive liberty, one of the biggest arguments for legalization is to take drugs out of the hands of organized crime.
“Perhaps the dickhead needs his door kicked in at 4:00 AM to show a statist Liberal what democracy and freedom is all about.”
More of the brilliant reasoning we see here at SDA every day. \
One day you’ll surprise everyone by writing something besides pure nonsense… but not today.
Max, I wouldn’t expect you to recognize reason if it bit you on the @ss.
Just to lay it out for you… Kate points out how nasty the drug trade can be. I have pointed out that most people who argue for legalization argue that just like with alcohol, if you take away the drug trade, you will cripple organized crime. We’ve seen this happen before, so we know. And on top of that… I threw in a dig about good old fashioned liberty. You guys talk about this all the time, but you clearly don’t believe it. That’s why you’re sad little angry people who whine about a world you don’t understand here on SDA.
.. and not today either.
That sound you hear rattling around inside your skull isn’t “the quest for cognitive liberty”, btw.
Well now at least Justin can factually claim he did finally accomplish something in his lifetime.
Although I don’t think the party elites had re-positioning the LPC as a one issue party in mind when they acclaimed him leader.
To paraphrase the PM’s response, his action speaks for itself.
Successful small business man smoking pot every day?
That’s great!
I wonder what you could have accomplished had you not smoked dope most of your life.
Sorry peterj last comment was meant for ofaycat – damned iPod, travelling again.