Sun News; Just because David Suzuki claims Canada is “full” and shouldn’t accept any more immigrants doesn’t mean Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau is ready to criticize him.
Sun News; Just because David Suzuki claims Canada is “full” and shouldn’t accept any more immigrants doesn’t mean Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau is ready to criticize him.
David Suzuki is right, for the wrong reasons.
I have no problems with people who want to be Canadian . Are not Barbarians. Can speak English. Do not want to force their culture, or Religion on us.The problem Isn’t Immigration, its allowing Colonization. Particularly from Muslims.
Importing people from States that have been at war for 40 years, criminals, the elderly, the sick.
What happened to allowing the best & Brightest into the Country?
Not the terrorists, killers or Welfare bums.
This is not about race, but culture.
According to Dr ‘Fruitfly’ humans are so ‘7th level maggoty’ so they should be avoided at all costs.
Given Justin’s luck lately he is obviously studying the ‘root causes’ of maggotness; and hasn’t come to a conclusion as to whether taking a position will benefit him politically.
Given Dr. “Fruitfly’s” gaseous extremism this should be a JT no brainer; but of course the dung pile awaits the beetles invasion. But notably JT has a ‘Rubber Soul’ he is considering whether the oil and gas industry has a theme song:
The Beatles – Drive my Car (with – Lyrics)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1wmvPP_-Qs
Asked a girl what she wanted to be
She said baby, can’t you see
I wanna be famous, a star on the screen
But you can do something in between
Baby you can drive my car
Yes I’m gonna be a star
Baby you can drive my car
And maybe I’ll love you
Cheers
Hans Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North”
“We plunder countries in the south by depriving them of their future executives and we want to increase our population to support the growth of our economy.”
So presumably what Suzuki wants is for Canada and all other countries to maintain borders like gulags. He really doesn’t want people to make their own decisions about how and where to make better lives for themselves, does he? The fact that Shiny Pony sees nothing wrong with this simply shows that he deserves a horse-whipping as badly as Suzuki does.
If we really worried about the environment, why would we move millions of people from low carbon footprint countries to the non-industrialized Canada where we burn phenomenal amounts of fuel just to live?
Immigration is done to keep the lowest wages low for the capitalists. The temporary worker program is especially odious. Convenience stores and restaurants will not hire kids around here. Instead they lie on their reports to government and import foreigners. The whole system is pretty much a disgrace. The expression “Labour shortage” is is deceitful. The real expression should be “pay shortage.” I am not sure if society should accept keeping the lowest wages lowest. Perhaps we should import vast numbers of dentists, veterinarians, lawyers, and other professionals to lower the price of services many people cannot afford.
Dentists and veterinarians, perhaps, but the price of lawyers is not caused by a shortage of them.
And perhaps the reason convenience stores and restaurants around there won’t hire kids is that they have seen too many reasons to expect the kids won’t work well enough to be worth hiring, even if they could pay them less than those temporary foreign workers who value the jobs so much more than Canadians do.
So the government pays the kids welfare and the businesses pay their foreign workers. Kids suck as employees but employers that try and figure it out like McDonalds seem to do okay.
Indeed.
The technical name for someone who’s not actually worth hiring (because he/she costs more to keep employed than they actually contribute to the company/organization) is “Zero Marginal Productivity worker.” I wouldn’t be the first person to notice that an awful lot of immigrants want to work, whereas ZMP Canadians want to be paid (whilst pretending to work).
ZMPers are basically screwed, and it’s an open question whether the rest of us, either through government programs or through putting up with these people in a private organization, should be subsidizing them.
As mostly always Revnant Dream hit it right on.
It can be said that he knows ows whereof he speaks.
It is amazing, no irony here.
Just-in would never go against the Davidian Suzukian Cult.
David Suzuki and reasons, in one sentence ?
Jason Kenney is pretty successful in his work and the left hates it. No reasons , just pure unfiltered insanity, as in this piece:
http://rabble.ca/blogs/bloggers/hussan/2013/07/open-letter-to-david-suzuki-canadas-immigration-policy-disgusting-not-
Revnant Dream, well said.
Weren’t a number of the type who follow Suzuki doing an “Open Borders” thing recently? Boy, this must really mess with their heads.
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U ever own or run a small bus.????
if U did/do then your post just baffles me to no end, most kids today don’t know how to work, and many don’t care or want to learn
Some kids are o.k., certainly, and some who aren’t can become so if managed properly, but there is always not enough management ability, too, for all the need, so lots of businesses will take the easy way out, as will most of their customers. If you can’t hold employees to a commitment that justifies investing in them, you will try to hire the ones who need less investment to get a return on them. And yes, the government pays the homegrown inferior product to stay idle, using money they get from us.
If we don’t raise our kids differently, we’ll keep getting the same.
Suzuki’s only concern is the numbers the U.N. will be handing down to him. Squeamish of the abattoir, he will now fit population reduction into his narrative. Trudeau, who knows nothing, buys the new narrative and runs and runs, as shiny ponies do. He will be chosen to lead the tours.
So, Great Leader, what is it? (Answers of the form “vote Liberal and find out” are not acceptable).
This sounds like a great opportunity to help The Pony out with some “ways”. For instance:
– for each new immigrant, throw one Christian White Male into the blades of a wind turbine (I would say fiery pit, but that releases too much CO2)
– accept only immigrants that are deemed not to “rob” their original countries of human resources: “sorry, you cannot come here, you are too smart, or too educated” – judgement of low qualifications by a competent tribunal of experts, appointed for life, with fully indexed pensions and generous expense accounts
– simultaneously reduce healthcare spending and make room for immigrants (that promise to vote Librano) by significantly increasing wait times for those over 50, or unemployed, or conservative
Just a couple of off the cuff ideas for The Pony, who if certain there are ways to reconcile, but can’t think of any offhand.
Can you imagine the twisted thinking of the likes of suzuki and turdeau even being given the time of day, in a Canada of years gone by?
How far we have sunk.
Methinks he want’s to keep the status quo: Me elitist, you “maggots” and live happily kayaking between Quadra Island and his Kitsilano homes, among others. He definitely doesn’t want YOU to attain what he has, that’s for sure and he certainly doesn’t want anymore of those immigrunts crowding his view or something, or taking more of what he considers his rights to resources to live his life in eco-utopia, banging drums with the native folks of the Wet Coast. Xtlxtulkxtklk!
An interesting reversal has taken place.
In the 90’s, the Liberals were the party of immigration. Reform was branded racist because of their idea to limit immigration to 100,000 people a year.
Flashforward 15 years and the tables have completely turned.The CPC is considered the immigration party and despite Kenney’s reforms, immigrants are coming on board in droves.
In terms of sheer numbers, 250,000 a year seems like something we’ll have to live with. It may crank wages down a little, but we need the people or Canada will fade away. Since the CPC is now the only party not riddled with leftist angst about building a realistic future, they are defacto the party of immigration.
This leaves the leftists with a ball of contradictions. The left in Canada has moved so far outside the mainstream, (or perhaps the mainstream has moved so far from the left) that they are unable to mount a unified or logical power grab. It’s been this way since 2005 and I see no end in sight.
In fact, it’s getting worse, not better.
Has anybody asked the shiny pony how he feels about that Liberal hack “Professor” who is accused of making child porn? The guy the pony was sitting next to at some weird gay “pride” fiasco? His answer would be entertaining to be sure.
In fact oa515, I believe this kicks off a change in Lieberal Party policy in the works. They have discovered that new Canadians soon find their values are with the Conservatives and are leaving the Liberals. No choice but for the Liebranos to switch sides; but they must be cautious lest they leave too many lefties behind.
RD is correct, our problem is colonization, the Muslims admit it, and Canada puts it’s head in the sand.
If we continue to let immigrants cram into cites where there is unemployment it will foster ghettos and gang crime will increase.
If they want to come to Canada they have to go where there are jobs.
The technical name for someone who’s not actually worth hiring (because he/she costs more to keep employed than they actually contribute to the company/organization) is “Zero Marginal Productivity worker.” I wouldn’t be the first person to notice that an awful lot of immigrants want to work, whereas ZMP Canadians want to be paid (whilst pretending to work).Posted by: Garth Wood r
Exactly the problem. The benefits that many Canadians receive from the govt are more than minimum wage. They don’t want to work, immigrants do. Immigrant workers show up for work every day on time, sober. They’re clean, polite, hard working and put in a full shift. Many immigrant workers are more credit to Canada than a lot of native Canadians.
We need to level immigration out, there is no problem with letting people into Canada as long as it is even, and they are good people. Letting 62% India and Pakistan 26% Chinese etc. and 12% “other” last time I looked at the numbers, is not fair. I have nothing against India and Pakistan, but why should there be 6 to 1 India /Pakistan over Romanian/Russian/Scotch/Swedish etc immigrants, make it fair across the board, 10 Scots apply10 Indians apply, 2 or each come here, or whatever is that so hard. Canada is the greatest place on earth to live and those that want to come here need to respect that, don’t bring your bum in the air 5 times a day fights, don’t bring your sick grandma grandpa to suck our healthcare dry and don’t try to kill us, Canadians/Americans, the purveyors and suppliers of all this wealth and prosperity you so seek. Is that so much to ask?
Many great comments above.
I’d only add that Mr. Trudeau, Jr.’s behaviour this week appears quite revealing, IMO, from a grand strategic perspective: he seems to believe that he can cobble together a status-quo, state-dependent coalition among legacy Quebec francophones and some folks in Atlantic Canada, legacy Downtown Toronto-centric “alternative lifestyle” types, and legacy English-speaking environmentalists, particularly in Ontario and BC, in the hope of resurrecting his father’s electoral chances.
How would he do that, exactly? Let’s face it: barring a calamitous economic collapse (which would have to be more severe than 2008, which Mr. Harper survived well, as did most of us, so far at least), the only way he could move that strategy forward is to keep Canada a small-time insular backwater: the absolute electoral linch-pin of the matter is that new immigrants are not going to go to Quebec, in any substantial numbers, either for a better life or to integrate themselves there, as we all know — a circumstance which augers very badly for Quebec’s future influence in Canada (as we are already seeing). So, while Mr. Suzuki might have some prosaic attachment to some long-distant past vigour, or agitation, or something, his remarks nevertheless suit Mr. Trudeau, Jr.’s purposes quite nicely, which explains the latter’s not disavowing them.
Mr. Trudeau, Jr.’s aspirations do not seem even remotely plausible from my perspective, since they run completely contrary to what I perceive to be the prevalent attitude of growing confidence (since Mr. Mulroney’s time) and “steadily gathering strength” (to quote Conrad Black at p. 699 of his brilliant new book, “Flight of the Eagle: A Strategic History of the United States”, Signal MacClelland and Stewart, 2013) among most of us.
I think the worm has, indeed, turned: while the Reform Party was stuck in the future, and couldn’t get there from here, the Liberal Party is stuck in a past to which we will not return. In this regard, I must say that Mr. Trudeau, Jr.’s behaviour of the past week has been truly garish (in more ways than one). In fact, he’s not had a good week since he became Liberal leader, or whatever he’s supposed to be. “Horse-whipping” is a very apt description, which, on current trends, is precisely what he’s going to get in about 27 months.
I am totally fed up with people cheering for these political parties like they were sports teams. I may disagree with 98% of the stuff David Suzuki says, but this is the other 2%. The residents of this country are stressed by relentless mass immigration that they did not vote for and mostly do not want. We are at historically high levels. The average immigrant of the last 20 years (since Mulroney increased immigration to 250,000 a year at the behest of real estate interests) is poorer than the average Canadian, less educated than the average Canadian, has relatives who are more likely to be criminal than the average Canadian, and is older than the average Canadian. All of these are facts that you can easily look up, have been verified by government statistical studies, and have been reported in media.
Taxes and spending have increased to pay for the roads and schools and hospitals that the increased numbers need, all while the constant influx inflates real estate values and depresses wages. The discovery that there are 300,000 “temporary foreign workers” in the country is the greatest political outrage in many years. Suzuki is actually making some sense here, and Trudeau — Justin Trudeau, for God’s sake — is at least avoiding putting his foot in his mouth. If Kenney and Oliver actually believe what they say, I want them out of office. In what possible sense is what Suzuki said “xenophobic”? If he wasn’t David Suzuki, would Kenney have accused him of being a racist? If the 2013 Conservative Party has really drifted this far from the ideas of the Reform Party, why vote for them again?
It’s possible maggots have already infested Suzuki’s brain. When are people going to stop paying attention to anything this silly old fool utters? Saying Canada has no more room for immigrants is a sure sign he doesn’t know much about the size or population of this country. I can agree we need to choose carefully who we allow into the country but that’s far different than saying we are full. Perhaps what’s worrying Bugs Suzuki is more to do with the Conservative government being in power and carefully choosing who they allow into the country.As for Trudeau,if he had a clue his opinion might matter,he doesn’t, it doesn’t.
“Immigration is done to keep the lowest wages low for the capitalists.”
Yes, it’s all true!
The Freemasons – acting on orders from the Bilderberg Group – are orchestrating our immigration system from a secret bunker under the Langevin Block on Parliament Hill.
Could it simply be that age is catching up on dear Dr Suzuki?
He appears to be making a rapid transformation from “revered Canadian icon” to “befuddled old crank”.
Has he been keeping company with Noam Chomsky lately?
I agree with Justin that the root cause for the Boston bombing was misguided immigration policy.
Did you expect anything else but pure mindless apology for rank hypocrisy from a Librano royal ?
This kid was raised in the Librano religion – he is steeped in all the fallible ideals and ideological fallacies of Laurentian elite mysticism – and one of the high priests of that cult is hizzoner the imperial fruit fly poobah. Zook can never be wrong – just as when Librano cult leaders are gob-smacked with the hypocrisy of their own beliefs – they just CAN’T be wrong – the same arrogant elitist mindset, which held the same xenophobic Malthusian attitudes that feeds the looming global governing agenda – and the pogroms which will ensue by concentrating power in dogmatic elitists.
This one (LPC Messiha) has a head just empty enough, and full of hypocritical dogma to be dangerous.
BTW – fruit fly’s comments on immigration are another Freudian exposure of just how misanthropic, Malthusian and intolerant he has always been, just add a drop of age dementia to that mental stew and you get the jaw dropping zingers he has been blurting out the past couple of years.
It’s becoming more and evident age is catching up with Bugs Suzuki’s brain, Fluffy Trudeau on the other hand other needs age to catch up with him, he’s not showing much maturity to match up with the ambition his decrepit LPC is irresponsibly forcing on the country.
Suzuki and Trudeau are calling for restrictions on immigration, draconian in comparison to the simple re-examination of immigration policy called for by the evil, bigoted, reactionary, small-minded, un-Canadian Reform Party (who’s immigration platform was drawn up by a Pakistani immigrant) of yesteryear. Now can we call Suzuki and Trudeau RAAAAAACIST!?
I’m sure our usual Lib-lefty contributors will join me in doing so. If not, why not?
I can of agree with Fruitfly on this one. I walked thru South centre Mall in Calgary the other day and English was definitely in the minority. Canadians have always had a price tag on what they were willing to sell the country for and it is a done deal. those that did the selling are fat and happy so no problems.
I sound like a broken record around the dinner table as our adult kids have no idea what they have lost.
“BTW – fruit fly’s comments on immigration are another Freudian exposure of just how misanthropic, Malthusian and intolerant he has always been, just add a drop of age dementia to that mental stew and you get the jaw dropping zingers he has been blurting out the past couple of years.”
Indeed. Good ol’ P.J. O’Rourke pegged the essential philosophy of these insufferable overpopulation and ecological disaster cranks years ago:
“Just enough of me; far too much of you.”
Yeah well, shiny pony had a hard choice…..offend the environuts or the ethnic vote…decisions, decisions.