62 Replies to ““We’re Calgarians, we help each other out,””

  1. I sure hope so. Daughter and I visited up there recently and its shocking to think of all those flat dry places all wet!

  2. Apparently the city is not looking for volunteer help in the cleanup. I am not technically savvy enough to set something up, but if someone could put together some sort of “exchange” matching volunteers with private victims to assist them in the cleanup of their properties, I am sure there are a lot of people that would welcome some “grunts with pickup trucks” (like myself) to haul their destroyed property away.

  3. “We’re Calgarians, we help each other out,”
    Yeah, help each other out to taxpayer money every time it floods. Leftists always use the sympathy ploy to get their entitlements. Taxpayer money will re-build for them, why should they move out of a flood plain?

  4. If you think it’s within the proper scope of government services to lobby foreign governments to buy Canadian oil but governments shouldn’t provide aid to flood victims – you might be a conservative.

  6. Yeppers! Why are we repeatedly bailing out people who chose to build in a flood plain? The same idiots will be flooded again and again. Edmonton spent 40 years buying up houses in the river valley to prevent future flooding and some idiot council looking for cash sold them all so rich people could have nice houses – in a flood plain.

  7. Winnipeg is built in the middle of huge flood plain, the bed of glacial lake Aggassiz.
    Relocate the province to the nearest mountains at once

  8. Then they’ll complain about building in avalanche prone areas. Or grass-fires on the plains, forest fires in the woods, tsunamis on the coasts, earthquakes on faults….
    Etc, etc, etc.
    Ignore them.

  9. Interesting to compare and contrast. Calgary was hit by a flood that can be expected at most every one or two centuries. The scale of the flooding was comparable to New Orleans. Yet the response in both cases has been wildly different. Calgary had no disorder except for some stories of looting. No panic and no confirmed loss of life yet. But New Orleans was a disaster in large part because of the inept response of municipal and state authorities despite lavish warning that Katrina was coming.

  10. Then they’ll complain about building in avalanche prone areas. Or grass-fires on the plains, forest fires in the woods, tsunamis on the coasts, earthquakes on faults….
    One would have thought it obvious that those who take no steps to mitigate their own risks are not owed welfare by others.
    Apparently the really smart people are against some taxpayer funded harm reduction and not others.

  11. Both an argument for and against zoning regulations. It’s almost criminal when governments force people to build in dangerous areas (by zoning them “residential”). By the same token, the cheapness of land that is regularly flooded means that there will always be those who don’t think it could ever happen to them, so they’ll take advantage of the “deal”. On the video (at the link) I saw the building I work in was about 1/2 a block from the waters edge. Thank heavens we’re high and dry, I didn’t realize the flooding was that extensive.
    the captcha starts off right: “ARG”

  12. So the people who contribute more per capita than anywhere else in the country,while receiving less in transfer payments, are not entitled to get some taxpayer help? Okay, just checking.

  14. How nice to be taken care of by the state, it just gets bigger and bigger and bigger and more costly without end.

  15. Hey;
    Here’s a win-win way one prairie boy is helping. Graham Delaet is donating $1k for every birdie he gets at the Travellers PGA Tour event to victims of the flood. He’s currently T2 at -10 with one birdie today and a dozen or so thus far in the tourney.
    I’m cheering for Graham here
    http://www.pgatour.com/content/pgatour/leaderboard.html
    However, I’m still shocked and confused!

  16. You see this is what happens when I sent that email to Jason Kenny quoting Paul Martin:
    “We are going to change the way we do government come Hell of Highwater”.
    As it happens our family has some experience in this area, as the old man was a hydro-electric engineer and of course you need an army of saints if your gonna tame Hell.
    Why didn’t the Hell didn’t they call…?
    Cheers
    Hans Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
    1st Saint Nicolaas Army
    Army Group “True North”

  17. I was talking to some guys at work about this on thursday and said, “It’s Calgary, they will have it back together in no time”.

  18. I grew up in Calgary and never saw water ever come near that high. I would not call those areas flood plains. I don’t recall any historical mention of these areas being flooded in the recorded history since Fort Calgary was established near the confluence of the Bow and Elbow. You can tell from the Center Street Bridge the water is some 20-30 vertical feet above normal.

  19. For all the armchair judges here blaming people for building in flood plains.
    1. They don’t know it was, where does one find mapping on this?
    2. The supposed flood of the century happened in 2005.
    So go fly a kite in a thunderstorm in being so crass.
    I live on higher ground and don’t thumb my noses to those who bought homes in good faith everything was safe. Ignorant postings on here doesn’t help.

  20. Calgary will come out of this with minimal tax money, they are self reliant types .. This disaster in a community of white Christian folks will pass with minimal crime as well..
    The disaster in New Orleans was what it was because it is largely African. It’s the behavior and the values that make the difference.
    I have observed the a few time now. Haiti comes to mind as one of the other nightmares. And the horrid recent twister in heartland USA is another example of the white Christian types helping and not committing crimes.
    Where do you live?

  22. Just about every settlement in the world started on a flood plain. Comments like yours are pure idiocy. One day something untoward will happen to you at which time I hope people feel free to refer to your idiocy in being complicit with the tragedy.

  23. I doubt if anyone cares if people want to build on flood plains. What those not of leftist bent do care about is playing the nanny to the leftist entitled with taxpayer dollars.
    I don’t recall any historical mention of these areas being flooded in the recorded history since Fort Calgary was established near the confluence of the Bow and Elbow.
    CALGARY (June 1897) Bow River rises about five metres turning downtown into a lake, washing out bridges, short-circuiting electricity and cutting Canadian Pacific’s line to Vancouver.
    CALGARY (June 1915) The Bow washes away Centre Street Bridge, nearly drowning two city officials. Sheep Creek floods Okotoks and cuts gas mains, leaving Calgarians without cooking fuel.
    Etc, etc…

  24. I had back stage passes when Van Halen played the ‘dome.
    Talked to my friends, and yea, Alberta, is not a dream, we just live like that.
    I’m homesick, 7 years later.
    dwright
    It hurt to see the Saddledome get trashed.
    Life goes on.

  26. If you want to see just how sick the left wing is in this country go and have a look at some of the comments at the Globe and Mail website about the situation. The left has completely revealed itself to be disgusting and vile. They try to hide it behind “compassion” but it is absolutely clear where their primitive heads really are. Absolutely disgusting.

  27. Brings a whole new meaning to the expression “what don’t kill ya makes ya strong”….for those downstream and about to take a direct hit stay safe!

  28. All the people blaming the people who were flooded and claiming this is some kind of flood plain should look at a god damned map sometime and shut the hell up.

  30. Can anyone name a city that hasn’t been hit by the wrath of Mother Nature? crickets, eh.
    You can only prepare so much without getting paranoid to the point of hysteria. I’ve lived in Winnipeg where they happened to get two 100 year floods back to back, Calgary where a lot of stuff I’ve seen is no where near the normal water routes and Houston where a tropical storm managed to drop 40 inches of rain in two days. Hell, I’ve even lost my boat to the aftermath of a hurricane in the Bedford Basin in Nova Scotia. If Mother Nature wants to get you there is no safe place to hide.

  31. Nice burn, do you have anything positive to contribute to the conversation?
    dwright

  32. I don’t think anybody should pay through taxation for someone else education , basic health care or transportation . However, if you are unable to suspend your political views in a face of natural disaster where great number of your fellow human beings are in distress, then you may be living on very muddy ethical plain.

  33. All the people blaming the people who were flooded and claiming this is some kind of flood plain should look at a god damned map sometime and shut the hell up.
    Heh, one of the funnier excuses of why a flood isn’t a flood. Presumably. all the other times it flooded weren’t floods either.
    Typical leftists, history started yesterday…anyway, still haven’t heard a reason why I should be penalized with taxes so the entitled can live where it floods.
    Redfraud, the Rat Queen, said government would re-build the communities, since insurance companies have the sense not to insure people for overland flooding. No wonder Calgary votes left.

  34. Yes, I saw that article, too. Have you ever been to Calgary, to provide context to the scope of the earlier events? I’ve walked, cycled and jogged the bow and elbow from Edworthy Park to Glenmore hundreds of times. The comparison is risible but it heartens me to think the venomous uncivil attitude of some people here imay be based on misapprehension.

  35. Heh, the thought of withholding public money from the entitled is ‘venomous’ and ‘uncivil’…
    So, tell me, why aren’t the insurance companies ‘venomous’ and ‘uncivil’ because they don’t cover overland flooding? They’re a lot richer than me…I’m sure you could throw a good enough pity party to get Redfraud to force them to pay.

  36. Here is a description that accords with my observations.
    “University of Alberta hydrologist Uldis Silins says flow levels in southern Alberta rivers submerged all records by a wide margin Thursday. He says the Elbow River near Bragg Creek was 66 per cent higher than it was in the 2005 flood, which was considered a 100-year event in many places in that watershed.”
    Being in an area flooded by a river 66% higher than a 100 year flood does not constituent a floodplain. I’ve seen the terrain along the areas countless times and seen xcavations for building work. Defintitely not the silty aleuvial soil characteristic of floodplains.
    As to the “entitled” , these are hardly tony areas of the city. These were peoplle who might drink beer into the evening with Ralph Klein at the St. Louis Tavern.

  37. flood plain. not really . the most of Calgary sits on two benches left from the last ice age and the remnants of Lake Calgary caused by an ice dam . The Bow cuts through the last bench and sits roughly 30 meters below the second bench which is really prominent along the sunnyside , parkdale montgomery ridge. This would have been a flood plain at one time , the lower bench at another. It is difficult to flood all of Calgary as the elevation difference between the highest and lowest points are nearly 300meters. Calgary built on a flood plain , nah, I would worry much more about a place called Delta.
    so dont worry about us. we will recover without the help of the ROC. unfortunately the ROC depends too much on Calgary . no one has called in the army to shovel the snow , and the army wasnt here to sandbag
    Git ‘er Done

  38. I’m hardly a leftist strad. Seriously look at a relief map of the affected areas. Use your brain and think real hard about the situation.

  39. Calgary built on a flood plain , nah,
    So, if the cat had kittens in the oven, would they be biscuits? Gawd, leftists like to parse words.
    When is a flood not a flood? When it happens to the entitled pretend conservatives. You know, like Redfraud, who was ‘terrified’ standing on a bridge in the dark.
    It’s not really a flood, because, well, there’s no flood plain. Yeah, that’s ‘risible’.
    So, what’s the reason I should be forced to help re-build?

  40. cue the violins. best stick to what you know strad
    Calgary is neither a plain or a plane , river gradient is better than 2 meters per km at Calgary . A flow of 3 times normal in a confined channel will top the levees.
    yes and levees are a natural phenomenon caused by a sudden drop in flow rate.
    none of us is asking for your help, we would probably prefer some strong arms rather than delicate tuning right now anyway.
    and me a leftest, ha, if you only knew.

  42. …none of us is asking for your help,…
    Uh huh, you’ll take the welfare when it’s offered…which would make you a leftist in practice. All that welfare being spread around is good for business, right?
    Contractors will have a field day on welfare money. Should have a flood, er, whatever it is, more often, eh?

  44. Murray….your sainted goon who made this quote is just that,a goon….”University of Alberta hydrologist Uldis Silins says flow levels in southern Alberta rivers submerged all records by a wide margin Thursday.” So he/it has lived long enough to know about ALL records??? You should tell him about 1895.Oh wait.It’s a leftard.History,especially a scare story to scam bucks,started yesterday.

  45. And if the govt or anybody wanted to build levys around these towns and cities to stop or slow the damage of a flood they would have to fight an army of environMENTALists screaming in their faces with their lack of all knowledge and smelly breaths. This is Albertas time to tell the federal govt, “we need all the money we send you in transfer payments, to pay for this damage” sorry Queebec you need to stand on your own feet for a change Alberta needs to clean up this mess, and we need all the money we can get this time.

  46. Strad, you’re hurting your own gut and heart more than anyone else.
    I think if you figure it out, you’ll find that per person the Canadian govt has more than likely given away a loonie or two to assist others in a time of need throughout your lifetime. Even if it was $5. for your lifetime, your whinging is more than a bit over the top for a small amount like that.
    Why don’t you slough it off as there is nothing you can do about it, and an attitude like yours is as boring as heil.
    Maybe you’ll sleep better tonight if you remember that God loves a cheerful giver.

  47. Maybe you’ll sleep better tonight if you remember that God loves a cheerful giver.
    Uh, you do know the definition of giving, right?
    It involves the voluntary bestowing of something upon another.
    If you want to take away from Peter to pay Paul, you can always count on Paul’s cooperation. Paul will call Peter ‘venomous’ and ‘uncivil’, use innumerable excuses like it’s only five dollars, if Peter resists…real thankful, eh? Entitled attitude…
    Maybe I wanted to voluntarily give that five dollars, but I sure won’t now. This is exactly the reason the US has historically been a more charitable country than Canada.
    Anyway, you depend on the Ms Redfraud, whom you voted for, to save you. We’ll see how much you get after she runs it through her bureaucracy.

  49. Now is the time to start building an Albertan version of this very important hydrologic project. Any “environmentalists” that complain could be given a position of honor beneath a pile of dirt symbolically representing their view of the importance of recycling. Name it the Gaian hydrologic diversion project (or something along those lines) to indicate that Gaia’s views on how to proceed had been fully respected. Considering that Gaia created humans to let her talk to other planetary organisms as soon as her human creations could get spaceships built, I expect that the weather during the construction phase would be ideal; unlike the weather when Gore travels.

  50. Loki
    Seriously, that was amazing.
    You put my “hunt and peck” writing to shame.
    Bravo.
    d

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