The arrests of two girls after a region-spanning steak knife stabbing spree late Monday have raised concerns of an “organized group” of teens bent on violence and robbery on B.C. public transit. […]
The girls have a combined 142 run-ins with police, Transit Police’s Anne Drennan said.
She said the group, sometimes seen with seven teens in total, has become a “serious ongoing problem” particularly with cellphone robberies.
h/t Larry F.
Perhaps BC needs to find a modern day Bernhard Goetz. Since the so called first responders don’t seem able to first respond, second respond or third respond we should acknowledge that individuals are responsible for their own self defense. I wonder how long the gang would continue in the face of a victim that was an armed first responder.
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Maybe they are Stanley Cup rioters just putting in time until they get to court
so they can be released for good behavior.
The law is an ASS.
After 142 run ins with police; I’d say you have a person for whom stabbing and robbery is a career choice…
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That’s not a mass transit problem; it’s an (in)justice system problem, starting with the blue line and ending with the red line. Crazy.
142 run-ins with the police shows you how stupid the criminal system (AKA the justice system) has gotten. We are stupiding ourselves into an eventual Detroit. Put these little shits in jail or in a mental institution and stop making excuses for them. The public deserves to have safe streets. We sure as hell pay enough taxes for it.
Hurray, more proof the Just-Us system works.
More elitist nonsense from the mighty metropolis of D****** SK.
Steak knife registry.
‘Nuff said.
Time to bring back the noose and lash.
and use them liberally, fire any judge who won’t use them.
lets try about 5 cracks across a bare butt, tell them if they come back again it will be doubled until they can see cearly the error of their ways.
i sat in a court room a while back, what a damn joke our justcice system is.
no wonder they have no repect for anything or anyone.
They’re young offenders, so the Youth Criminal Justice Act which is the Liberal party’s 2003 tweaking of their earlier Young Offenders Act is the problem. There is no real penalty for breaching the conditions imposed by the court so serial offenders abound.
Since these girls are youth criminals their pictures don’t get posted which means their next victims won’t be able to recognize them as threats. Wouldn’t want to prejudice people against the little darlings when they seek employment or loans, would we?
Reminds me of the response given to critics by someone with Singapore’s government after that American teenager was sentenced to a caning for his role in vandalising a number of cars. The person suggested they understood that the west might find the practice barbaric, but that they found such criticism amusing given the problems the west has with criminal activity, including violent crime such as rape. Of course there was a law professor in Singapore who was opposed to such a (effective) form of punishment.
Almost forgot.
Kate, you may wish to change the number to ‘120’ random hitchhikers. A single subway car or flexy-bendy articulated bus holds more than that at rush hour. If you can avoid using big city mass transit, do so, especially at rush hour.
Look. Maybe riding the bus to your average hillbilly, but if everybody drove in Canadian cities, we would need 24 lane roads everywhere. Posting an example of violence on transit as an example of reasons why you shouldn’t ride the bus is feeble-minded. Millions of people ride the bus every single day and the worst thing that happens is they might smell a bit of BO or have somebody bump into them.
Relax. You average teenage girl won’t hurt you.
Oh, John. Ever reliable to apologize and make excuses for criminals. The fact is I have 0 chance of being attacked by passengers in my car. I can’t make that claim when I use transit. Transit is a magnet for the disturbed and violent. Lots of confined victims.
Success, the percentage of Canadians commuting by car rose from 68% in 1992 to 74% by 2005! 86% of Americans choose the automobile over mass transit.
Need 24 lane roads to go anywhere? I suppose that might be the case given a high enough population. John is smart because he lives in a large city, & only smart people live in large cities, stupid people live in places other than large cities and are known to be hillbillies, dontcha know?
Actually, I live in a town, KVB. But the fact is that without transit, the roads would be jammed. In Vancouver alone, over 800,000 people take transit every day. Try adding 800,000 cars to the roads every and see how bad traffic gets. Only a hillbilly can’t see the logic in that.
@Mark, where did I apologize for criminals? I said that getting your panties in a knot over a highly publicized crime is goofy. The fact of the matter is that transit is by far safer than driving your car. In fact, your chances of being injured in a car vs transit is roughly 170’s greater.
But hey… teen girl stabbing spree makes a better headline than, “yet another driver injured in accident since the last 15 minutes since we reported the same damned story.”
Stories like this confirm that notion that conservatives generally make decisions based out of fear.
Actually, I live in a town, KVB. But the fact is that without transit, the roads would be jammed. In Vancouver alone, over 800,000 people take transit every day. Try adding 800,000 cars to the roads every and see how bad traffic gets. And forget about the smog, which despite what this blog might think, is very, very real in big cities. Only a hillbilly can’t see the logic in that.
@Mark, where did I apologize for criminals? I said that getting your panties in a knot over a highly publicized crime is goofy. The fact of the matter is that transit is by far safer than driving your car. In fact, your chances of being injured in a car vs transit is roughly 170’s greater.
But hey… “teen girl stabbing spree” makes a better headline than, “yet another driver injured in accident since the last 15 minutes since we reported the same damned story.”
Stories like this confirm that notion that conservatives generally make decisions based out of fear.
Don’t get me wrong. I drive. When I lived in Vancouver, I rarely took transit to work. Primarily because it took way too long to get to my office. Could easily have been rectified if that city’s transit system actually grew with the city. In the 15 years I lived there, no new routes were added in my area despite a dramatic increase in density.
http://www.edmontonsun.com/2013/03/20/mobs-of-teens-stabbing-beating-bc-commuters-transit-cops
“Mass Transit” only makes sense in Port Cities or old-world cities developed pre-automibile, as only they have a condensed housing and street pattern that makes such transit efficient enough to justify the expense–and even then it’s hardly an overwhelming success: Think BART in SF, Portlands abortion of a “skyrail” etc., Plus any tunnel, bridge, right-of-way, etc., not developed before the 1930s is so labor-intensive, cost-prohibitive/mile that it’s not worth the effort in most cases. Almost 95%+ of all transit systems in N. America are heavily subsidized by taxpayers who don’t ride them. People should visit the urban-planner site “The Anti-Planner” for a good on-going discusssion of the metrics involved..
I’ll just bet those uncivilized Chinese could figure out how to deal with this after episode one, maybe two.
PS: The Antiplanner currently has a great discussion going on this very topic, go see..
and toilet (john) again proves that libtards are practically/logically challenged
We’re all better off with liberals on the bus instead of behind the wheel anyway.
I’m curious what would happen to anyone who applied equal force in self-defense to what are obviously clearly deranged humanoid animals roaming free when they should have either been euthanized or locked up in an insane asylum? I know that in my case, anyone who tried to stab me would be dead as a knife constitutes a potential lethal weapon and, if police can shoot people who come at them with knives, I have the same right to use my fists and steel toed boots to neutralize a threat. A threat is neutralized when application of sufficient force results in the threat no longer being able to inflict any injury on me. I don’t discriminate against female threats.
One trick I learned years ago in my kick boxing days is to make crazies think that you’re crazier than they are. That makes them give you a wide bearth. That’s resulted in my getting into far fewer fights than if it looked as if I might be easy prey.
Even if one took the crazies off buses, one would still be left with the bedbug problem and risk of MRSA infections in Vancouver. When I lived in Vancouver, I’d often walk 10 miles to get somewhere rather than take a bus. Often there was no option as it would sometimes take 2 hours for a taxi to show up when called and the way I’d get cabs is to go to one of the major hotels downtown and grab a cab when they pulled up. Nice for getting from downtown to somewhere else in the city but a problem in getting back. It takes less than 2 hours to walk 10 miles.
@Loki,
That’s crazy. So you are saying you basically walked from the Vancouver Airport to Robson Square. (14km)
That’s a lot of walking just to avoid taking the bus.
I can confirm… there are barely any teenager stabber girls on buses. I lived there for 15 years and I got stabbed like twice. And the one girl wasn’t even a teen. She couldn’t have been more than 10, and I think she was transgender.
Now THAT was trolling.
John, there are cabs at Vancouver airport. There aren’t any at UBC and, yes, I’ve walked from UBC to downtown Vancouver many times. Way preferable to taking a bus. Actually quite a nice walk.
Say John, why aren’t you defending your progressive honor over on the biofuel/glowball warming/gaia worship threads? Facts and logic not your forte, eh?
Truth dude, you need to work on your snark too. Its weak.
Hey John, I’m not afraid of any teenager with a knife. I would be the last person they ever interacted with. 380APC.
high school and college football and hockey players don’t get hassled on a bus. Construction workers don’t get hassled on a bus. Anybody who looks like a blue-collar worker won’t have a problem on a bus. If you want to look like a victim somebody will oblige you someday. Hide in you car if you want.