Karl Rove, Chief CINO, has declared war on the Tea Party. The sooner conservatives wake up and realize this, the better.
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And that is why the Republicans lost the Presidency,Too much infighting between factions, reminds me of Progressive Conservatives, Reform Party and the Alliance Party. Time for somebody to bring the American conservatives under a party that is not the stale Republican Party.
Seems like Rove is getting his advice from David Frum.
Well said. For the Republican party these days is only “conservative” to avowed Leftists.
The GOP brass (RINOs) going to war with the Tea Party (Patriots, constitutionalists, populist republicans, monetary/tax reformers) should tell red state conservatives all they need to know about the current state of the Party – In short, it’s been infiltrated and operated by globalists who have the same anti-constitutional authoritarian corporatocracy agenda as the Dems. These people are NOT conservatives, they are NOT liberals, they are authoritarian statists (Straussian fascists).
Get the partisan blinders off and save the republic from this super class scum in the party system, congress and Fed bureaucracy. Get out of the party system and field populist constitutionalist candidates
The stupid party has earned its nickname. Rove is merely a symptom of the RINO disease. Here’s a hint. Most of us think Washington is too big and does too much, poorly. Where is anyone who is trying to get us back to the government we need versus the one that we have?
The “moderate” and “conservative” wings of the GOP need to find ways to work with each other. Each has put forth excellent candidates, and also some literal losers. WFB had it right. Back the most conservative candidate who can win. That can be decided by the state, MA vs MS. It can also be decided by the candidate, Mourdock vs Luger. If the continue as they are, Conservatism will vanish as a national force within the next decade.
Agree with Rove or not, as long as Republicans continue to tie themselves to the Christian fundamentalist/anti-abortionist faction, they will have an increasingly difficult time gaining power. Isn’t Stephen Harper in power because the Cons successfully distanced themselves, even though there is relentless and inexorable pressure from the faction, even within the party itself? Like it or not, societal demographics are changing, and we fiscal conservatives will continually have to make concessions to have influence in politics.
The GOP is dead as a political vehicle for constitutional conservatism. Bail from it. The element controlling both parties now are neither conservative nor liberal. They are anti-constitutionalist authoritarian statists (Straussian fascist). Both parties are constructing a nepotistic merger of special interests and government – the courts no longer control them and the ballot box became irrelevant with agenda bipartisanism – a superclass which is above the law, the constitution and public scrutiny/control.
If Americans care about the constitutional republic, they will abandon the party system for populist multi party constitutionalism. Third option is the only hope to take America back democratically before resorting to the ammo box.
“Seems like Rove is getting advice from David Frum”
Whether he is or not, they’re definitely birds of a feather…and certainly not bluebirds.
I feel sorry for people them. I suspect that at the heart of it all lies an unsupportable superiority complex: their worth to society vastly exceeds that of truck drivers, waitresses and the rest of the unlettered masses.
Most of the TP candidates are surrendering very slowly. Kasich surrendered to Obamacare today.
How would you go about destroying a strong political enemy? Perhaps the most effective method is to infiltrate his lower ranks and set up an ultra-orthodox element that refuses to compromise on anything. It effectively draws away a significant portion of the main and causes a schism which devours most of the energy needed to fight the real enemy. Just a thought…
That tin-foil hat conspiracy theory aside, once a party fractures in the way the Republicans have there is no saving it short of a purge of one faction or the other, much in the way the Reform party did. But I worry we are being slowly drawn into a schism in another country and that simply makes no sense right now. We are in power here and pull all the strings. That means everything. It takes great patience and skill to achieve lasting change and PM Harper is doing a masterful job so far. He truly understands that pushing the political pendulum too hard simply makes it swing back the other way even faster.
Take care not to start a war where there isn’t one. The left is salivating at the opportunity to do just that and any small brush fire will quickly be whipped into an inferno if we let our guard down.
Precisely! And guess what, the American version of the Joe Clark Big Government PROGRESSIVE-Cons isn’t going to budge on anything. They’re in the business of government … lots & lots of government and have no incentive to downsize. 🙁
Well, I am glad someone started noticing this. I saw thru Karl Rove the moment he started orchestrating the ‘Amnesty’ Plan in Bush’s 2nd Term and then TARP got passed and that Ka-Ooed the GOP. It’s all about the Corporate, Financial and Military money and greasing your buddies palms now, and Rove is deep-throat-deep in it.
My message to the GOP is I am Taxed Enuf Already.
The reason that Mitt Romney lost was that the majority of conservative voters in the US did NOT come out to vote, hence, the lower number of voters in 2012 vs 2008. The conservatives saw Mitt Romney as a RINO and as one earlier post mentioned a globalist, who essentially believes in Big Government. @skytrail is totally wrong in his belief that tying oneself up with religious people and the anti-abortion movement is a losing proposition. Since demographics always wins in the end…those people, who 40 yrs ago, killed their babies and those who continue to do so…aren’t passing on their beliefs (since there is nobody to pass them to). Those of us who have kids (and who actually listened during biology class)are passing on that abortion is the murder of a baby. If I live long enough (I’m 47), I’ll see the demise of the abortion movement–they’ll all die out.
American political history is both confusing and simple.
Right of the hop the USA was very conservative and that theme continues.
The Donkeys arose as a competition but hived off as a right wing southern party…eventially the CSA.
Meantime the Whigs, the original conservative party, swooned in disarray….finally the Whigs just disappeared with the advent of the Republicans, who became the government…under a fella called Lincoln.
Which lead to the War Of Northern Aggression. The Republicans retained power because the losers, were ultra right…the Jim Crow/KKK donkeys.
Woodrow Wilson’s overt entertainment of the KKK was not an aberation.
Then along came Camelot and Johnson, who calously courted the “black” demographic for naked power.
And now here we are with a Republican Party as relevant as the 1850’s Whigs.
Hopefully this will not be resolved again by another civil war.
Like it or not, societal demographics are changing, and we fiscal conservatives will continually have to make concessions to have influence in politics.
That’s why you look exactly like the other guys.
And why you are completely irrelevant.
There seem to be several sectors in the GOP and each has little to do with the other.
There’s the Old Guard, living in a big government bubble in Washington, steeped in its days of power. Rather similar to the Chretien Liberals, entrapped within Quebec-Ontario centralism and oblivious to the rest of the nation. This section is big government, foreign invovlement, the military and a certain amount of societal interference…just not as much as the Obama Democrats.
Obama’s Democrats are an authoritarian, anti-Congress, big central socialist govt, uninvolved in foreign affairs, and focused on developing a powerful dependent electoral base to keep them in power.
Then, in the GOP there’s the Tea Party, which has nothing to do with societal issues, despite being vilified as embedded in them. It is focused on the Constitutional limitation of the federal government, on fiscal and budget responsibility, low taxes, the promotion of small businesses.
And then, there are the social conservatives, who bring in issues, which I feel have nothing to do with the federal role: abortion, marriage and etc.
I think the GOP should ditch the old Chretien style Washington Big Power mode and certainly ditch the social conservative issues. These are not the domain of a federal govt (as Harper has shown). They belong at the state level, at the religious level, and if legal issues are involved, should be decided by referendum at the state level. The federal govt should stay out of these issues. I note that Obama, as a Dear Leader dictator, is heavily involved in these issues.
The GOP should focus on the Tea Party or Constitutional duties of the federal govt. Period. That would implode the Washington bubble. Do they have the courage to do this? Or will they follow Rove?
We are in power here and pull all the strings. That means everything.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA *breathes* AHAHAHAHAHHAHA
You tell yourself you’re in power. Tell yourself you have a unicorn too. You are no more ‘in power’ than any disillusioned GOP voter or TPer or whatnot.
Some Lawmakers With Tea Party Ties Are on the Government Dole
The Tea Party swept into the 112th Congress with promises of cutting government spending.
But according to a report out today, at least five lawmakers with Tea Party connections have been longtime recipients of federal agricultural subsidies.
“There’s nothing too surprising about hypocrisy in Washington,” Ken Cook, president of Environmental Working Group, told ABC News. “This particular group, you not only have to look at the hypocrisy but you need to watch your wallet.”
While the majority of American farmers receive no government money at all, at least 23 current members of congress or their families have received government money for their farms — combining for more than $12 million since 1995 according to a new report from the Environmental Working Group.
The biggest recipient was Rep. Stephen Fincher, a Republican from Frog Jump, Tenn.
While the self-described Tea Party patriot lists his occupation as “farmer” and “gospel singer” in the Congressional Directory, he doesn’t mention that his family has received more than $3 million in farm subsidies from 1995 to 2009, according to the Environmental Working Group. abcnews.go.com/Politics/tea-party-hypocrisy-lawmakers-tea-party-ties-government/story?id=13259014#.UO8xFawsncs
When Paul Ryan brags on TV how his 10 year old daughter shot her first deer then you can know the GOP, as it is currently configured, is doomed.
When the NRA suggests that kindergarten teachers should be armed => GOP doomed.
When a GOP candidate suggests that rape does not lead to pregnancy because a women’s body rejects the rape => GOP doomed.
etc. etc. etc.
The idea is to *WIN* elections and until the GOP understands that point they will continue to see their popularity wane.
well said ET, there are ppl on both side of the political divide who can not refrain from banging the drum of their personal issues at every chance, this inclued the ‘greenies” and religious nut jobs. there could be a discussion about knitting socks and some fool will start barking about “enviromental” and another will drag out abortion, when neither have anything to do with the topic at hand!!!
“The GOP should focus on the Tea Party or Constitutional duties of the federal govt. Period. That would implode the Washington bubble. Do they have the courage to do this? Or will they follow Rove?” ET
If the Republicans want my vote they will stop rolling over
and let Obama prove he can do his job himself. Don’t approve any more finacial stop gap nonsense, or traitor McCain’s immigration kissy..kissy.
The Republica Party has to many retards like Rove! A little tweak here & there won’t work anymore. TUNE OUT TIME
JMHO
The republican party needs some creative destruction.
Bring it on, Rove!
“Do they have the courage to do this? Or will they follow Rove?”
That is the question. Rove is sitting on a lot of money. I am of the opinion that when politicians get booted from office their “aids” and managers etc, heck, the whole bunch of them ought to take a step back and simply help others take over the reigns. The truth is that most politicians are idiots with smart people around them and when the smart folks get booted it’s time to go. The trouble is that these guys are all getting rich off the system and will have to be forcibly removed if the party is ever to grow again. They care little for the country or it’s people, just the dough. The media is heavily involved too. I figger the republicans will likely need another cycle before they can clear the deadwood and be whole again.
The problem is that there’s more deadwood where they came from.
Let the purge of the RINO’s begin.
In earnest.
LOUDLY.
Start with Michael Steele. If CNN picked him up? He’s no conservative.
What will a conservative victory mean if social or moral issues are either untouched or made worse? That bothers some voters and I don’t blame them. However, I don’t think the Republicans lost because of people like Todd Akin or even because of Romney. If the culture at large is similar to the “bread and circuses” Romans, that is just wanting the government to look after them, it won’t matter who runs in 2014 or 2016. The electorate serves only one purpose before it leeches off the government- check the box for the most likely Santa Claus.
Recommendation to the Tea Party:
Contact Preston Manning and begin a real Reform Party. It will take time, but in the long run, it may save the country.
This is not to be confused with the party started by loser Ross Perot.
“Precisely! And guess what, the American version of the Joe Clark Big Government PROGRESSIVE-Cons isn’t going to budge on anything…”
Yup, poor old Pinko Joe. But….
(a) Joe Clark fought to get property rights included in the Charter of Rights – something Harper won’t do, and
(b) Want to bet that Clark’s cabinet and bureaucracy was smaller than Harper’s?
I can still remember when turn blossom was considered smart.
Favill has it right. The GOP establishmentarians are quite deliberately peddling this meme that Romney lost because the GOP wasn’t enough like the Democrats, and how that means Republicans need to surrender on core issues like taxation, illegal immigration, and so on.
The problem is, that’s all horses**t. Romney lost because he didn’t get enough of the GOP base. When it comes to the vaunted independents, the ones for whom the DC consultant class orient their every strategy, Romney won handily. But whaddya know, turns out the independents aren’t quite the kingmakers all the Beltway Blowhards assumed them to be. If Romney had gotten as much of the conservative base as even McCain in ’08, we’d be looking at President Romney right now.
So their answer is to marginalize and alienate this conservative base even more?
The “good” news is none of this matters, because the USA is finished as a viable civilization. Someone recently likened it to Wile E. Coyote running out over the cliff edge and hanging in mid air, only plummeting when he acknowledges his fae. America is about to experience something similar to the Soviets in 1991, followed by a balkanized disintegration both de facto and de jure.
And that is why the Republicans lost the Presidency,Too much infighting between factions, reminds me of Progressive Conservatives, Reform Party and the Alliance Party. Time for somebody to bring the American conservatives under a party that is not the stale Republican Party.
Seems like Rove is getting his advice from David Frum.
Well said. For the Republican party these days is only “conservative” to avowed Leftists.
The GOP brass (RINOs) going to war with the Tea Party (Patriots, constitutionalists, populist republicans, monetary/tax reformers) should tell red state conservatives all they need to know about the current state of the Party – In short, it’s been infiltrated and operated by globalists who have the same anti-constitutional authoritarian corporatocracy agenda as the Dems. These people are NOT conservatives, they are NOT liberals, they are authoritarian statists (Straussian fascists).
Get the partisan blinders off and save the republic from this super class scum in the party system, congress and Fed bureaucracy. Get out of the party system and field populist constitutionalist candidates
The stupid party has earned its nickname. Rove is merely a symptom of the RINO disease. Here’s a hint. Most of us think Washington is too big and does too much, poorly. Where is anyone who is trying to get us back to the government we need versus the one that we have?
The “moderate” and “conservative” wings of the GOP need to find ways to work with each other. Each has put forth excellent candidates, and also some literal losers. WFB had it right. Back the most conservative candidate who can win. That can be decided by the state, MA vs MS. It can also be decided by the candidate, Mourdock vs Luger. If the continue as they are, Conservatism will vanish as a national force within the next decade.
Agree with Rove or not, as long as Republicans continue to tie themselves to the Christian fundamentalist/anti-abortionist faction, they will have an increasingly difficult time gaining power. Isn’t Stephen Harper in power because the Cons successfully distanced themselves, even though there is relentless and inexorable pressure from the faction, even within the party itself? Like it or not, societal demographics are changing, and we fiscal conservatives will continually have to make concessions to have influence in politics.
The GOP is dead as a political vehicle for constitutional conservatism. Bail from it. The element controlling both parties now are neither conservative nor liberal. They are anti-constitutionalist authoritarian statists (Straussian fascist). Both parties are constructing a nepotistic merger of special interests and government – the courts no longer control them and the ballot box became irrelevant with agenda bipartisanism – a superclass which is above the law, the constitution and public scrutiny/control.
If Americans care about the constitutional republic, they will abandon the party system for populist multi party constitutionalism. Third option is the only hope to take America back democratically before resorting to the ammo box.
“Seems like Rove is getting advice from David Frum”
Whether he is or not, they’re definitely birds of a feather…and certainly not bluebirds.
I feel sorry for people them. I suspect that at the heart of it all lies an unsupportable superiority complex: their worth to society vastly exceeds that of truck drivers, waitresses and the rest of the unlettered masses.
Most of the TP candidates are surrendering very slowly. Kasich surrendered to Obamacare today.
How would you go about destroying a strong political enemy? Perhaps the most effective method is to infiltrate his lower ranks and set up an ultra-orthodox element that refuses to compromise on anything. It effectively draws away a significant portion of the main and causes a schism which devours most of the energy needed to fight the real enemy. Just a thought…
That tin-foil hat conspiracy theory aside, once a party fractures in the way the Republicans have there is no saving it short of a purge of one faction or the other, much in the way the Reform party did. But I worry we are being slowly drawn into a schism in another country and that simply makes no sense right now. We are in power here and pull all the strings. That means everything. It takes great patience and skill to achieve lasting change and PM Harper is doing a masterful job so far. He truly understands that pushing the political pendulum too hard simply makes it swing back the other way even faster.
Take care not to start a war where there isn’t one. The left is salivating at the opportunity to do just that and any small brush fire will quickly be whipped into an inferno if we let our guard down.
Precisely! And guess what, the American version of the Joe Clark Big Government PROGRESSIVE-Cons isn’t going to budge on anything. They’re in the business of government … lots & lots of government and have no incentive to downsize. 🙁
Well, I am glad someone started noticing this. I saw thru Karl Rove the moment he started orchestrating the ‘Amnesty’ Plan in Bush’s 2nd Term and then TARP got passed and that Ka-Ooed the GOP. It’s all about the Corporate, Financial and Military money and greasing your buddies palms now, and Rove is deep-throat-deep in it.
My message to the GOP is I am Taxed Enuf Already.
The reason that Mitt Romney lost was that the majority of conservative voters in the US did NOT come out to vote, hence, the lower number of voters in 2012 vs 2008. The conservatives saw Mitt Romney as a RINO and as one earlier post mentioned a globalist, who essentially believes in Big Government. @skytrail is totally wrong in his belief that tying oneself up with religious people and the anti-abortion movement is a losing proposition. Since demographics always wins in the end…those people, who 40 yrs ago, killed their babies and those who continue to do so…aren’t passing on their beliefs (since there is nobody to pass them to). Those of us who have kids (and who actually listened during biology class)are passing on that abortion is the murder of a baby. If I live long enough (I’m 47), I’ll see the demise of the abortion movement–they’ll all die out.
American political history is both confusing and simple.
Right of the hop the USA was very conservative and that theme continues.
The Donkeys arose as a competition but hived off as a right wing southern party…eventially the CSA.
Meantime the Whigs, the original conservative party, swooned in disarray….finally the Whigs just disappeared with the advent of the Republicans, who became the government…under a fella called Lincoln.
Which lead to the War Of Northern Aggression. The Republicans retained power because the losers, were ultra right…the Jim Crow/KKK donkeys.
Woodrow Wilson’s overt entertainment of the KKK was not an aberation.
Then along came Camelot and Johnson, who calously courted the “black” demographic for naked power.
And now here we are with a Republican Party as relevant as the 1850’s Whigs.
Hopefully this will not be resolved again by another civil war.
Like it or not, societal demographics are changing, and we fiscal conservatives will continually have to make concessions to have influence in politics.
That’s why you look exactly like the other guys.
And why you are completely irrelevant.
There seem to be several sectors in the GOP and each has little to do with the other.
There’s the Old Guard, living in a big government bubble in Washington, steeped in its days of power. Rather similar to the Chretien Liberals, entrapped within Quebec-Ontario centralism and oblivious to the rest of the nation. This section is big government, foreign invovlement, the military and a certain amount of societal interference…just not as much as the Obama Democrats.
Obama’s Democrats are an authoritarian, anti-Congress, big central socialist govt, uninvolved in foreign affairs, and focused on developing a powerful dependent electoral base to keep them in power.
Then, in the GOP there’s the Tea Party, which has nothing to do with societal issues, despite being vilified as embedded in them. It is focused on the Constitutional limitation of the federal government, on fiscal and budget responsibility, low taxes, the promotion of small businesses.
And then, there are the social conservatives, who bring in issues, which I feel have nothing to do with the federal role: abortion, marriage and etc.
I think the GOP should ditch the old Chretien style Washington Big Power mode and certainly ditch the social conservative issues. These are not the domain of a federal govt (as Harper has shown). They belong at the state level, at the religious level, and if legal issues are involved, should be decided by referendum at the state level. The federal govt should stay out of these issues. I note that Obama, as a Dear Leader dictator, is heavily involved in these issues.
The GOP should focus on the Tea Party or Constitutional duties of the federal govt. Period. That would implode the Washington bubble. Do they have the courage to do this? Or will they follow Rove?
We are in power here and pull all the strings. That means everything.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA *breathes* AHAHAHAHAHHAHA
You tell yourself you’re in power. Tell yourself you have a unicorn too. You are no more ‘in power’ than any disillusioned GOP voter or TPer or whatnot.
Some Lawmakers With Tea Party Ties Are on the Government Dole
The Tea Party swept into the 112th Congress with promises of cutting government spending.
But according to a report out today, at least five lawmakers with Tea Party connections have been longtime recipients of federal agricultural subsidies.
“There’s nothing too surprising about hypocrisy in Washington,” Ken Cook, president of Environmental Working Group, told ABC News. “This particular group, you not only have to look at the hypocrisy but you need to watch your wallet.”
While the majority of American farmers receive no government money at all, at least 23 current members of congress or their families have received government money for their farms — combining for more than $12 million since 1995 according to a new report from the Environmental Working Group.
The biggest recipient was Rep. Stephen Fincher, a Republican from Frog Jump, Tenn.
While the self-described Tea Party patriot lists his occupation as “farmer” and “gospel singer” in the Congressional Directory, he doesn’t mention that his family has received more than $3 million in farm subsidies from 1995 to 2009, according to the Environmental Working Group.
abcnews.go.com/Politics/tea-party-hypocrisy-lawmakers-tea-party-ties-government/story?id=13259014#.UO8xFawsncs
When Paul Ryan brags on TV how his 10 year old daughter shot her first deer then you can know the GOP, as it is currently configured, is doomed.
When the NRA suggests that kindergarten teachers should be armed => GOP doomed.
When a GOP candidate suggests that rape does not lead to pregnancy because a women’s body rejects the rape => GOP doomed.
etc. etc. etc.
The idea is to *WIN* elections and until the GOP understands that point they will continue to see their popularity wane.
well said ET, there are ppl on both side of the political divide who can not refrain from banging the drum of their personal issues at every chance, this inclued the ‘greenies” and religious nut jobs. there could be a discussion about knitting socks and some fool will start barking about “enviromental” and another will drag out abortion, when neither have anything to do with the topic at hand!!!
“The GOP should focus on the Tea Party or Constitutional duties of the federal govt. Period. That would implode the Washington bubble. Do they have the courage to do this? Or will they follow Rove?” ET
If the Republicans want my vote they will stop rolling over
and let Obama prove he can do his job himself. Don’t approve any more finacial stop gap nonsense, or traitor McCain’s immigration kissy..kissy.
The Republica Party has to many retards like Rove! A little tweak here & there won’t work anymore. TUNE OUT TIME
JMHO
The republican party needs some creative destruction.
Bring it on, Rove!
“Do they have the courage to do this? Or will they follow Rove?”
That is the question. Rove is sitting on a lot of money. I am of the opinion that when politicians get booted from office their “aids” and managers etc, heck, the whole bunch of them ought to take a step back and simply help others take over the reigns. The truth is that most politicians are idiots with smart people around them and when the smart folks get booted it’s time to go. The trouble is that these guys are all getting rich off the system and will have to be forcibly removed if the party is ever to grow again. They care little for the country or it’s people, just the dough. The media is heavily involved too. I figger the republicans will likely need another cycle before they can clear the deadwood and be whole again.
The problem is that there’s more deadwood where they came from.
Let the purge of the RINO’s begin.
In earnest.
LOUDLY.
Start with Michael Steele. If CNN picked him up? He’s no conservative.
What will a conservative victory mean if social or moral issues are either untouched or made worse? That bothers some voters and I don’t blame them. However, I don’t think the Republicans lost because of people like Todd Akin or even because of Romney. If the culture at large is similar to the “bread and circuses” Romans, that is just wanting the government to look after them, it won’t matter who runs in 2014 or 2016. The electorate serves only one purpose before it leeches off the government- check the box for the most likely Santa Claus.
Recommendation to the Tea Party:
Contact Preston Manning and begin a real Reform Party. It will take time, but in the long run, it may save the country.
This is not to be confused with the party started by loser Ross Perot.
“Precisely! And guess what, the American version of the Joe Clark Big Government PROGRESSIVE-Cons isn’t going to budge on anything…”
Yup, poor old Pinko Joe. But….
(a) Joe Clark fought to get property rights included in the Charter of Rights – something Harper won’t do, and
(b) Want to bet that Clark’s cabinet and bureaucracy was smaller than Harper’s?
I can still remember when turn blossom was considered smart.
Favill has it right. The GOP establishmentarians are quite deliberately peddling this meme that Romney lost because the GOP wasn’t enough like the Democrats, and how that means Republicans need to surrender on core issues like taxation, illegal immigration, and so on.
The problem is, that’s all horses**t. Romney lost because he didn’t get enough of the GOP base. When it comes to the vaunted independents, the ones for whom the DC consultant class orient their every strategy, Romney won handily. But whaddya know, turns out the independents aren’t quite the kingmakers all the Beltway Blowhards assumed them to be. If Romney had gotten as much of the conservative base as even McCain in ’08, we’d be looking at President Romney right now.
So their answer is to marginalize and alienate this conservative base even more?
The “good” news is none of this matters, because the USA is finished as a viable civilization. Someone recently likened it to Wile E. Coyote running out over the cliff edge and hanging in mid air, only plummeting when he acknowledges his fae. America is about to experience something similar to the Soviets in 1991, followed by a balkanized disintegration both de facto and de jure.