We know more about Beyonce than we do Benghazi;
“My understanding is that we still have some people in the hospital. I’d like to visit with them and wish them nothing but the best but the State Department has seen it unfit for me to know who those people are–or even how many there are,” Rep. Chaffetz said. “I don’t know who they are. I don’t know where they live. I don’t know what state they’re from. I don’t even know how many there are. It doesn’t seem right to me.”
“This is so patently different than any other experience I’ve had. Unfortunately, people have been killed and maimed and in harm’s way in Afghanistan and Iraq and in points beyond,” Chaffetz continued. “It’s typically been the case that they would release those names but in this case, they won’t. My challenge is to the media. You try and figure it out. They won’t let Congress know. They won’t seem to let the media know either.”
And when Hilary is finished testifying today, that won’t have changed.
Live stream here.
Update: This about sums up her testimony.
Video here
Update 2: Rand Paul brings it.
I said that Hillary wouldn’t testify. She’s there in body but not in fact.
Deny, deny, deny. She rejects the reality of what happened in Benghazi. Denies that there was a problem with the response to the request for help; denies that there was a delay in that response (8 hours and more of no help!!)…
Deny, deny, deny. No facts. Nothing.
I tried to watch it but she is a mastetr at “If you can’t dazzle them with the foot work them baffle them with the Bull S–t”.
What I did watch she sure had a lot of blinking going on.
I hate to be the paranoid conspiracy theorist but mounting evidence points to the fact the Obumbles junta hate the 1st amendment as much as the second.
There seems to be an accelerated pogrom to silence critics and bury inconvenient fact in this second term. Congress can’t seem to get any documentation on Fast and Furious and the Benghazi affair has a pall of security secrecy over the events. This started with Hillary’s alleged sick absence from giving evidence on the matter – I wouldn’t be surprised if they state her fall resulted in memory loss. The Obama’s media team is in overdrive smearing anyone who questions official policy/stories/narratives.
Many Obama watchers are predicting a dramatic staged “event” to be politically exploited and drive the agenda to defame and justify political oppression of red state America – something that would dwarf Waco or Ruby ridge. If Obumbles fulfills his roll in emulating Lincoln we can expect secret service to carry off intimidation and frame ups of media critics and opposition members who are “not with the agenda” – Lincoln was no saint and the closest thing to a tyrant/dictator the republic has ever seen.
All in all this Obama cabal is turning out to be the most corrupt, unconstitutional, off the rails administration the US has suffered under. Impeachment should be a priority for the congressional GOP but they seem to be aiding this Washington junta in its destruction to the constitutional republic.
Hillary’s bulletproof.
You know that you’re being misled, you know that you’re being deceived, and you know that there’s nothing you can do about it.
“Deny, deny, deny. She rejects the reality of what happened in Benghazi.”
LOL
You really should go back in the archives and read the crap you wrote when Gaddafi was being bombed by NATO.
Any wonder why Whitewater sputtered and fizzled into oblivion?
Praise and adulation by Democratic Senators. John McCain rips her a new one, but adroitly side-stepped by the Hildebeast.
Exactly as predicted.
A couple of hours in, and the word “Youtube” has still not been uttered.
In the same breath she absolves herself of blame by saying that an independent investigation found culpability at the “assistant secretary level” while claiming she’s taking responsibility.
Yes, what difference would it make…?
Well let’s see… had two Navy Seals operatives not intervened, against orders to stand down, you would have wiped out about 36 ’embassy personnel’. Instead letting two of your own get ‘whacked’ via mortar shots; while the idiots watched bereft via the White House situation room, you might have actually planned ahead because the situation was known to be unstable at least 6 months in advance.
The message is the leadership considers men in the field, expendable at will to their whim and caprice.
That is sure to fill the ranks at the recruiting office…
This is Hillary’s Sgt Schultz moment:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34ag4nkSh7Q
I see Nothing! I was not here. I did not Evan get up zis morning!
Cheers
Hans Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North”
It is -amazing- watching her lie, and then get angry at Sen. Johnson for not swallowing the lie hook line and sinker like a good Republican. Her ability to stick to the story is very impressive. In a loathsome sort of way, anyway.
Shorter Clinton: “SHUT UP!!!”
I’m surprised Paul didn’t bring up the video and the arrest of the filmmaker. But at least he called her incompetent and didn’t waste time giving her false praises.
When the game is rigged, you don’t make any bets.
This is nothing more than political theater to lull the sheeple into a false sense that they have any leadership or any say in what goes on with these criminals.
Hillary is smirking because she knows this very well.
As with Fast & Furious, Obamba has been cleansed of any wrong doing, Al Qaeda is now free and armed with Libya’s weapons to cause terror across the MENA, and American tax dollars will continue to drop drone bombs on small villages across the globe.
They will continue to us our name and money to enrich themselves, murder innocence people in our name, and incrementally take our freedoms and liberties away a little more each day.
Their whole mantra is “I didn’t do it, you didn’t see me do it and you can’t prove I did it”!!
The fix is in. Unfortunately the fix is what will break the capitalist system.
Stock up on guns, ammo, food, water, medicine.
This regime is bringing down Western civilization, and HARD.
Sgt Schultz moment indeed. That the American people largely ignore the many fiascoes of the Obama regime and re-elected this government just shows the level of bread and circuses mentality that has taken over a large part of the population. And this disconnect is why Obama and his team of incompetents and lightly disguised socialist is allowed to get away with it.
I imagine after today Mrs. Clinton could use a good cigar…..
Rush Limbaugh called Hillary’s marriage to Bill an “excrement sandwich”, on today’s show.
As shameless and amoral a liar as Bill, but less clever and charming.
“Depends on what the meaning of the word ‘knew’ is”?
So what did the State Department do when they found out four Americans had been killed..?..Buried the survivors…
Notice in her ‘What difference does it make’, where she suggests that the attack was due, not to a protest, as the Obama Gang insisted, but possibly due to ‘some guys going out for a walk and they decide to attack the consulate’.
Oh? But all evidence is that it was a planned attack, not ad hoc. You don’t go out for a walk carrying mortars and machine guns and grenades.
She says she never saw the previous requests from the Embassy and the Ambassador for increased security. Really? What kind of department did she run? Doesn’t she know about requests – and refusals?
And wasn’t she aware of the previous attacks on the Embassy, of the fact that the UK pulled out, of the fact that Libya and others warned the US that the situation was bad and further attacks were likely. Didn’t she know this?
Deny, deny, deny and off into the sunset.
Rand Paul begins his portion of questioning, Hillary puts elbow to table and props her head up. This is a sign to me that she has no respect for what he was saying, implies she is quite bored with the hearing itself and can’t wait for the bell to ring like in a high school class.
OZ, so you support dictators. Heh.
That’s because, after all, Oz, dictatorships are stable! Yes, we know there’s no infrastructure for government; there’s just dictatorship and military rule. No constitution, no rule of law, no parliament. Just the Rule of the Dictator. But you support his. It’s stable.
You ignore that, possibly, people find living under a dictatorship a bit hard to deal with. You also ignore that when that dictatorship topples, there’s a vacuum left. Got that?
That’s because there’s no governing infrastructure in place yet.
So, bands of hoodlums, each eager to be yet another dictatorship, move in. This phase must be fought against. As others have said, the Islamic fascist fight will take at least a decade and more to fight; it started many decades ago, after all.
But, people will develop a genuine democratic infrastructure..and the jihadists will turn, as the old communist rebels also did in central America, to criminal agendas: drugs, human smuggling. They’ll lose their utopian plans..
But, I forgot. You support dictators. They are stable.
Anyone asking questions about why we screwed up and lied about it is DISHONOURING THE DEAD!!!!!!
‘What difference does it make’
Refers to exactly how she sees the situation, – {it makes no difference what the cause was, because we will do what we want and there’s nothing you can do about it}.
And the reason they can get away with it is that the MSM is fully complicit with the cover-up. As today’s commentary on CBC, CNN, CTV demonstrates.
ET >
“OZ, so you support dictators. Heh.”
And you support Al Qaeda.
Gaddafi was a benevolent dictator that took care of his people very well. I lived in Tripoli for 5 years to know. That doesn’t mean dictators are good, it means that the alternatives were very BAD, and EVERYONE with a clue knew it.
Everyone knew Gaddafi’s jails were full of Al Qaeda terrorists that he arrested over the last decade, and everyone knew that his vast amount of military armaments would fall into the hands of Islamic terrorists including Al Qaeda if he was overthrown.
You can scour the internet archives to find the credible voices warning of such a thing today. You can scour the SDA archive to find the posters repeating the same.
If you supported the overthrow of Gaddafi, you supported an armed Al Qaeda massacring their way across North Africa and that is precisely what they are doing today.
Mocking people who warned and rationalized that overthrowing Gaddafi’s regime was a terrible option is a little unconscionable really.
Note that Hillary insists that Al Qaeda is now on the rise, but the Great One, Obama, insists that Al Qaeda is on the wane. Hmm.
The fact that she says that she didn’t see requests for more security suggests she ran a sloppy department; after all, why hasn’t she gone after the officials who DID see those requests, and who DID refuse them? Instead, she sloughs off the question with her own ignorance.
Why did she ignore the very real situation in Benghazi, about which her dept was warned by the ambassador, by the UK, by Libya?
Who cares that she ‘hugged the family members of those killed’? To use her words: what difference does it make?
Why was the CIA there? Why was the CIA told not to help? Why the 8 hour delay? Where are the survivors? Why can’t we hear from them? Deny, deny, deny.
Knight 99, very accurate comment.
And off she goes.
The impartial media: speaking Truth to Power.
‘An ABC News reporter tried dressing down Rand Paul (R-Ky.) after the senator chided Secretary of State Hillary Clinton during today’s Benghazi hearing.
“Curious: What is Rand Paul’s foreign policy background? Did he serve in the military? Did he study, live, do business or charity overseas?” tweeted Terry Moran, co-anchor of ABC’s Nightline.’
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/01/23/abc-reporter-but-what-does-rand-paul-know-about-foreign-policy/
Black Mamba >
Well obviously he didn’t dodge snipers bullets getting off a plane in Bosnia like Hillary and Chelsea did!
In her own words:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5TnnPQtiTQ
Rand Paul is Ron Paul’s son. Rand Paul is a saviour of freedom just like his father. Long live Ron & Rand Paul!
Must not have been any Kenyan classes on running a superpower.
Hilary’s testimony in 4-5 words.
“I don’t know nuttin'”
I was wondering….did she fall on her head or something?
Pretty much the same thing in Egypt. The people that Hosni Mubarak put in jail and kept in jail thoroughly deserved to be there. He even moderated persecution of Christians.
Whitewater – “I don’t recall”. Benghazi – “What difference does it make?”
To be confident enough not to hide a smirk when Paul began addressing her severely shows that she knows as long as Obama is in the WH, the truth will not come out. But, he certainly deserves accolades for not showing mercy.
John Lewis >
Absolutely.
This is the whole point about all the smoke & mirror distractions from the Obamba administration and the MSM.
The root crime that was committed and should be the public’s (congress) main focus is not Benghazi. It is Obamba’s/ UN support for the Arab Spring that laid the groundwork for the atrocities and war crimes that exist throughout North Africa today.
They KNEW what would happen, the world’s richest and largest intelligence agencies knew without any doubts. Even if they miraculously did not know the Israeli government made it loud and clear for them from the beginning.
They nurtured the Arab Spring uprisings, they circumvented congress and overthrew Libya, and then they supported the overthrow of Egypt. Even pledging 1 billion dollars in military aid to the new Egyptian government aka The Muslim Brotherhood.
None of this is coincidence, or an oversight.
S’Hillary had more than enough time to prep for this hearing.
Whether she had a fall, how bad it was or who was paid to say what regarding her “illness”, the fact is that everything was laid out on the table, every scenario gone over from back to front and sideways. The mistakes, the deliberate actions and the neglect have been stripped from the official record and the narrative which is the song sheet that everyone is now singing from will be the only one heard from the WH. Hillary and the rest of ilk will have picked the pieces which she is willing to discuss in the public forum. Facts and figures and have been manipulated or ignored, as seen in her testimony or by her dismissive twisting of what was and what could have been (“a bunch of guys out for a walk one night who decided to kill some Americans”) is what she is putting out there instead of dealing with the facts. The script has been written and they are closing the wagons to protect their political careers. Nothing we haven’t heard or seen from Hillary in the past. Just wondering when bodies are going to start piling up of the people who are on the inside who will be willing to talk.
There are Patriots who have the real story, and they are keeping their heads down under this administrations watch, but the truth of the whole thing will be revealed in good time.
I strongly suspect Hillary was drunk and un-available when the cables came in.
Naw…was just a bunch of guys with machine guns, rocket launchers and explosives out for a midnight walk!
Re: Rand Paul Brings it.
In what will go down in the annals of GOP history as one of the most stunning blunders of all time (if the party survives) was RNC never considered Rand Paul as a presidential candidate, and actively worked to blackball his father’s campaign to run an Obama clone in a donkey suit.
As it is now Paul’s only one of a handful of GOP members who can be trusted by an increasingly wary GOP voter base who see entirely too much bipartisan agreement with arguably the most anti-constitutional polarizing government ever.
The picture of Clinton chosen is not complimentary. One might suggest she is imitating Monica Lewinsky.
Knight99, your IF-THEN assertion that I support Al Qaeda is nonsense and illogical. It is illogical to state that IF I reject a dictatorship/Gaddafi, THEN, I support Al Qaeda.
Equally illogical is your Either-Or frame of ‘Either a dictator OR Al Qaeda’.
I disagree with both your logical fallacies.
Gadhafi was not the benevolent dictator you describe for us and your anecdotal experience as a foreign worker is not the full sum of Libyan life.
I’ll repeat my view that moving from a dictatorship, a governance that lacks the institutional infrastructures of political power vested in the people (rather than a dictator)…is a period of chaos. Various power groups will try to gain their own dictatorial power.
But it can’t last for reasons I’ve outlined elsewhere that have to do with economics and demographics, and you and Oz ignore these two vital variables. So be it.
I don’t agree with you. Or Oz. I think that all people have the right to govern themselves, and that refusing them this right because ‘Al Qaeda’ is around the corner, is an invalid argument.
But y’know we need the Middle East to explode!
That’s how we can ramp up DOMESTIC security, control guns,food, communication(with MSM’s blessing), like the U.N. wants.
And steal funds by “saving the planet”.
Then the “elite” can reward their friends and the rest of us phuckers do as we are told.
Central (can you say-SHARIA) control should work, in theory, the professors tell us. As long as we kill enough people, it will all balance.
Silver, gold and ammo. Get’em while you can.
“I strongly suspect Hillary was drunk and un-available when the cables came in.” Ratt
Close but no Cigar. Hillary is as dumb as a fence post, Susan Rice ran the State Dept. Hillary is a beard (front) that does not know how to act like a real CEO.
She refused to ask questions of anyone because the FBI was doing an investigation… That is nonsense, stupid and a blatant lie. She was the one that MUST have the answers. Why the Hell do we have an Executive Branch
Go away Hillary and take sick Willie with you
“What difference does it make?”
WOW.
I wonder how the families of the four murdered Americans, who may have dodged the marauding crowd if Hillary’s department had been doing its various jobs properly — or, at all — feel about this comment?
The difference it makes, Hillary-the-Contemptuous-and-Disgusting, is that if you and your non-performing, incompetent department and your no-good, imposter POTUS had known what was going on — and you should have if you’d been on the ball and had paid attention to the information Americans were sending you about the volatile situation in Benghazi — you would never have left your Ambassador in such a vulnerable position and you would have, if you actually cared, sent support to the brave, outnumbered former CIA operatives who did everything they could to evacuate and protect the Americans on the compound in Benghazi.
The difference it makes, Hillary-the-Entitled-and-Repugnant, is that your inaction, your incompetence, and your irresponsibility in not assuring the safety of the Americans caught in this terrorist attack — at least you finally admitted that — is that your indifference was the cause of four Americans’ deaths.
The other difference it makes, Hillary-the-Heedless-and-Callous, is that you lied. You lied to cover up your negligence. You actually knew in real time what was happening and yet you pretended for over a week that you didn’t know, resulting in the deaths of four Americans.
Hillary’s is a disgusting act of cowardice compounded by prevarication to save her hide. She is an altogether despicable woman.
Pardon me if this is already posted.
Rush limbaugh said Hildabeasts election debts were paid off in the last few days.
As Gomer Pyle used to say “Surprise Surprise Surprise!
ET, re Hillary’s comment about the attack being “due, not to a protest, as the Obama Gang insisted, but possibly due to ‘some guys going out for a walk and they decide to attack the consulate'”: She was joshing everyone. She didn’t mean this, literally; she was just trying to sidetrack the attack on her and her department’s competence.
It was a stupid, disgusting, throw-away remark, not intended to be taken seriously or literally but to show her interrogators — and the American electorate — in what utter contempt she holds them. She, Hillary-the-Great-and-Exceptional, doesn’t have to answer to anyone, least of all the elected representatives of the American people.
We’re watching a bloody train wreck in the U.S.. It’s surreal.
ET >
“It is illogical to state that IF I reject a dictatorship/Gaddafi, THEN, I support Al Qaeda.”
It’s illogical for you to state that OZ supports dictators because he DID NOT support the overthrow of Gaddafi, yet you reject the same premise from me.
The rationality of supporting Gaddafi maintaining power knowing the political and economic conditions of Libya and NA far outweighs theoretical economic mumbo jumbo. The proof is in the pudding as to who had the sensible stand on overthrowing Gaddafi’s regime. Unless of course the philosophy of “destroying the village in order to save it” will magically work better in the MENA than it has anywhere else in history. We should go ahead and nuke North Korea, they’ll simply rebuild from the ashes. Of course Obamba and supporters never look at real totalitarian oppressors that have it all locked up do they?
I won’t rehash Gaddafi’s beneficial qualities to Libyan life; it’s well documented on the internet for anyone who cares to look. He was a weirdo, and a tyrant to those that opposed him, but he loved his people and culture, and took care of them much better than many western countries do with some of their own people today. Recognizing this does not make one like or care for Gaddafi, understanding the fallout of his removal is key to understanding why his forced removal by the west was criminal.
What we do know is that the death and destruction flowing across the region was well predicted by many. That’s not a movie scenario as you once attributed to naysayers, its reality, and it’s not going away in many, many, lifetimes to be sure.
Correction to above post @ 6:00 PM: former Navy Seals not former CIA operatives
“Naw…was just a bunch of guys with machine guns, rocket launchers and explosives out for a midnight walk!”
Seems legit.