82 Replies to “Why Is There Always A Big Screen TV?”
“Employable No More”
An utterly worthless collection of parasites, who would be unable to look after their own welfare without continual government handouts. And you know you have these bottom-feeders on the ropes when they scream and chant the usual “racist” blather.
Many, if not most of them, would benefit mightily from a good kick in the äss.
Here’s an experiment. Let’s separate all the left-wing teat-suckers in one group, and conservatives in another. Give each their choice of location in the country which to move, live and prosper, on their own, without assistance from the other. Give it a couple of years, and let’s see how everyone fares.
mhb23re
A very graphic media expose of the professional complainer left. I applaud Levant for not throttling or suing the belligerent Marxist revisionists who toss off defamatory accusations like spit balls. What I (and any objective viewer) saw in these clips was not any organized native protesters speaking for the majority of first nations people but your typical clutch of GTA rent-a-commies and union agitators looking for free face time on the broadcast media. There was no focused protest, no legitimate grievance, just the perennial caustic belly aching of far left loonies over those who hold different opinions and more hollow rhetoric espousing their imaginary victimhood dogma. They lost in the court of public opinion again on this move, as all disingenuous sociopaths should.
The best part of this incident is we now have a media documented/recorded case of Ontario police indoctrinated in not upholding the constitutional rule of law – picking on the people the far left attack rather than confronting the lawlessness/law-breaking of race politics agitators. An open, on record display of the two tiered policing which is bring both police and the law into wide public disrepute.
There was not a single protester that had a logical answer to anything Ezra asked. It was like dealing with spoiled preschoolers that all had a different agenda. Amazing how many people can fit into the shallow end of the gene pool.
For future protests in cities, perhaps some eager, smart web person could make a system to announce to interested people a chance to “show up” at these events. I’ve watched an anti-gun rally flooded with double the population of pro-gun people. Things got very quiet quick, and rather civil. Nothing breaks up a good mob, than a larger mob.
Ezra needs protection. Perfect candidate for CCW in Canada.
batb said: “The police’s job is not to “prevent violence.” Their job is to apply the law equally and to enforce Canada’s laws.”
This is a fundamental mistake. The job of police is not serve and protect, it is not to keep the peace, and it is most certainly not to “apply the law equally and to enforce Canada’s laws.
The job of the police, the job they are hired and trained to perform like seals in the circus, is TO DO AS THEY ARE TOLD. If they are told to go calm down that crowd, that’s what they’ll do. If they’re told to go get those d@mn townies away from the Indians, that’s what they’ll do. Go arrest Garry McHale for doing nothing, done! Go harass those rabble rousing SUN news racists, done! Lie in court, done!
The fundamental mistake we all make about these protesters is who they work for. They aren’t radicals, they aren’t trying to start a revolution. They may think they are, but that’s not where the money is coming from.
They work for The Man. They work for the government, basically.
Those illiterate, irrational useful idiots represent the faction of our society that wants more and bigger government, more and bigger taxes, more and bigger handouts. The same big money that backs the Liberal Party backs these OWS/INM fruitloops. Every time you see somebody stand up for lower taxes, freedom of speech, self defense, or smaller government you see this same clique of rabble show up in front of their place.
Conveniently, that’s who the cops work for too. So we can expect Ezra to get arrested lots and lots in the next few years. Just so we all know what’s what and who’s who.
..where was the water cannon when you really need it..?? this mob is the most disgusting example of low life I have ever seen….Can you spell STOOPID.?
I have to disagree with those who believe it is the job of the police to prevent violence or, in effect, prevent crime. Ezra was not contravening any law. If the police feared he was about to be assaulted it is reasonable for them to inform Ezra of such, which they did, but if Ezra, or anyone for that matter, decides not to avoid someone else’s criminal intent and accept the risk then it is not the job of the police nor their right to remove the person at risk. Their job is to enforce the law against assault, not prevent an assault. Police cannot be everywhere, we know, so personally I think it would be better to arrest a protester prone to assault and get him off the street rather than prevent the crime when the police are present. The police aren’t always there but the inclination to assault in that person probably is.
It is the same as police advising us not to leave valuables in our car, or our doors unlocked, or women to walk alone at night. It’s all good advice but it is not a crime to ignore it. Yet.
Phantom, I very often agree with you but not this time.
Ezra wasn’t arrested. Nor did the police harass the SUN columnists.
And I don’t see that the OWS/INM crowd work for the government. They side with the unions, the socialists and so on, but this isn’t ‘the government’ but an ideology.
Occam, could you explain how the police did not uphold the ‘constitutional rule of law’?
And how were the OWS/INM crowd breaking the law?
Both sides have the right of free speech. This includes insulting, hate-filled and irrational and ignorant speech. The next step for any rational person is to decide when and where to speak.
If either of you think that speaking to a crowd which has no interest in your ideas, no wish to listen to you, and even, resents your intention to impose your speech on them – is a rational or ‘just’ action..well…
After all, it’s the same thing for us who do not wish to listen to the OWS/INM nonsense. If they force their speech on us, insist that we listen to them, don’t we get resentful of their arrogance?
Just because we, both sides, have the right of free speech, does not mean that we must insist that someone else HEAR our speech. That goes for Ezra as well as the OWS/INM crowd.
Ezra got the best result. He got video of their racism, their irrationality, their ignorance, and can make all of that public. Period. To have incited that crowd to violence wouldn’t have achieved that result.
He’s no chicken that’s for sure. It takes some serious balls to show composure like that. Way to go Ezra!
Can anyone imagine any other media personality in Ezra’s shoes? Images of stumbling, terror, pleading apologies, spring to mind. Well done Ezra!
How subtly inaccurate is the label “Idle no More”. Clearly, the people in this video have been idle in the thinking department, for quite some time.
Wandering around aimlessly like a tool maybe makes you less idle physically. But mentally, they remain idle. Spouting slogans and drowning out those who disagree with you isn’t thinking.
Sad , really. Ezra does a great job showing this.
Ezra Ackbar!
ET
On this instance it may be correct to remove Ezra to prevent the situation from getting out of hand. However, on the whole I have a problem with the police removing someone peacefully exercising their rights because a mob chooses to threaten violence to them. Neither the protestors nor Ezra has any right to be heard nor does either have the right to engage in or threaten violence. If the protestors don’t want to hear him they can leave and same for him.
I think that the reaction of many people here is due to many high profile events where police have abandoned and bullied ordinary people in favor of threatening mobs. If I recall correctly, the day after the Ann Coulter event in Calgary the vice-president of her security detail wrote an op-ed in the National Post stating that the police not only refused to disperse the crowd at the exit but also threatened to arrest all of them if they chose to leave.
There are plenty of even more egregious examples of police, shall we say, timidity of which I’m sure everyone here is well aware. As far as I’m concerned they’re just armed tax collectors and I hold them in no high regard, to put it lightly.
This is the spoiled child’s voice of the native movement – emotional, demanding and throwing tantrums when they don’t get what they want. If the adults in the movement allow themselves to be defined by their children – blocades, shrill protests – they have no chance at progress. Just the opposite.
I agree with ET that free speech rights aren’t a matter of if we agree with a point of view or how it’s presented. Too bad the leftists in this country don’t see it that way and think they should shut up anyone who offends them.
There is goodwill between natives and other Canadians despite some recent over the top escapades, andt there is potential for positive results for everyone. Yes, let’s get on with land claims (BTW that doesn’t mean you grant every one and/or rely on spurious evidence – apparently over 100% of BC is under some land claim). Secondly, there will be accountability – bands that prove they can properly run their communities will be given more and more autonomy – that signal is clear with the PM’s personal intervention. Forget this “nation to nation” nonsense (BTW – foreign aid is conditional too).
The native movement needs to look into the mirror before they can truly benefit their communities. Childish tantrums in front of media offices won’t get it done.
ET “The hate speech laws (section 318 of the Criminal Code) we have in Canada refer only to public advocation of genocide of an identifiable group.”
You might want to read Section 319.
Ezra – as always, thank you. Thank you.
Ezra is a true brave patriot.
Notice his use of the Socratic method: he asks for examples and doesn’t get any.
There is a bit of a disconnect in the arguments above.
On the one hand in defending gun rights we point out that the cops aren’t there to protect us, just to draw chalk circles and gather stats; on the other hand when they step in, as they’ve done here, we also complain.
I am slowly coming to the conclusion that thanks to G20 protests, Occupy, INM, etc., Canadians’ “Right to Peaceful Protest” is no longer practical to allow.
Phantom, as usual, defines the difference between theory and reality.Cops do as they are told by their Masters or suffer the consequences. That’s their job,now.
Most police officers go into this line of work for the low risk, high pay,and very nice pension after only 25 years. Previous generations of police officers DID go into that career for the good of the community and the Country and to “serve and protect”, but those guys are long retired.
I grew up in a small,rowdy town in Northern Manitoba. We had a town cop,who double-dutied as garbage collector,and two RCMP officers. The RCMP had to police three Indian Reserves,five towns and an area of thousands of square miles of bush country,and they did it very well.
In those days, the name “Sam Steele” was still remembered,and his history still revered. The RCMP were tough,honest,fair,and fearless.I saw many occasions where one RCMP would wade into a fight with three or four yahoos
and still make an arrest. Many times the cops took a lot of punches,but as they were sober and usually good fighters,never got hurt too badly.
But, they applied the law equally,and they were well respected,even by the criminal element. I can’t believe how a once proud and effective police force has deteriorated into a politically correct bunch,hanging on until they get their pension.
The same can be said for the Provincial and City police forces in Canada as well, little or no character left, just civil servants putting in time until pensioned off.
Brave as he is ,it was still better for the police to move him aside…….You all know,witnesses ,video,and testimony from police,there would have been a long,long delay,then an appealled sentence,if the idiots had smacked Ezra around or stomped him.
It could have been a liberal arts university field trip complete with a few professors for “intellectual” leadership. It was actually quite a tame crowd, nothing like a union mob.
With some notable exceptions, the FNs have been destroyed by apartheid and subsequent century and a half of marination in isolated communal ghettos of grievance and entitlement. Their salvation won’t come easily if at all.
They should be bribed (with cash and or land in individual title) into assimilation and then eliminate the Indian Act and all future dealings, as with everyone else, would be through provincial jurisdiction. If not, nothing will change.
Naw…the watercannon is so yesterday.
I think the best ‘weapon’ is the video recording of their stupidity, and Ezra’s calm intelligence.
They are too stupid to realise they have witnessed freedom of the press.
Too stupid to know that ‘racism’ is ignoring the truth because it might ‘offend’….(fill in the blank for the race or culture du jour).
Some have suggested ‘counter protests’…Kate has described the failure of conservatives showing up to riot,so it probably won’t happen.
I sure hope Ezra has ‘security’.
scar, yes, I know about section 319. It doesn’t change my argument.
The key term, as in section 318, is ‘inciting’ or ‘wilfully promoting hatred’ as in advocating or inciting genocide (318) or ‘inciting or promoting hatred against an identifiable group’ (319)AND where such incitement is ‘likely to lead to a breach of the peace’.
Those people who were ‘Jew bashing’ against Ezra could not be said to be ‘inciting hatred’ or even advocating a breach of the peace. They were expressing their own hatred. That falls under, alas, freedom of expression.
You got the inside track Occam. Many decades ago, when I was in school, I had a History teacher who always isolated the immediate cause from the underlying cause in any human action. In order to find the underlying cause of any ‘action’ people must have a solid base of knowledge from which to extract possible motivation for an ‘action’.
IMO, Ezra has uncovered the underlying cause – the money taxpayers shovel into Indian Reserves is gobbled up by Indian Chiefs and their pals (gument bureaucrats, contract treaty rights agitators, lawyers, lawyer help, courts….kickbacks…). The fear of losing this lucrative income is sending panic (batb had a much better word) into the fat bank accounts of those in the ‘Indian Business”, chief Spender told the msm where the money was spent – lawyers, advisers, salaries for band elders, courts – was no one listening? This racketeering has been going on for decades but Ezra is blowing the lid off the racket and the elites are getting nervous. The isolated indian reserve with all band members depending on money from the Chief (at the Chief’s discretion) is an ideal place to ferment hate. Economic control is essential to work a Bolshevik type bloodbath and takeover of a country. This Idle thingie is following the Cloward and Piven plan – pitting citizens against each other.
Ezra has taken the side of the economically enslaved reservation indians who must cow tow to the Chief to extract any benefits from the billions that are shoveled into the coffers. Ezra has courage. Demanding accountability for dollars spent is the underlying reason for the elitist ‘demonstrations’ across the country,IMO.
ET, Ezra has the right to be on the street and to talk with people who disagree with him without the police hustling him off to the side.
ET said: “Phantom, I very often agree with you but not this time.
Ezra wasn’t arrested. Nor did the police harass the SUN columnists.
And I don’t see that the OWS/INM crowd work for the government. They side with the unions, the socialists and so on, but this isn’t ‘the government’ but an ideology.”
I didn’t mean to say that they work for the government as in being on the payroll. They work for the same faction in our society as the one that -controls- our government and its institutions. As do the police. So it is no accident that Ezra is the one that gets taken aside by the cops in an altercation where he’s doing nothing and the mob is getting violent.
I guarantee you that had the roles been reversed, Conservative “mob” vs. CBC reporter, there would have been arrests made.
That’s the mistake we keep making. Its not an ideology. Its a -faction-, and it moves to protect its own interests as we see in the video.
Why do you think there’s no wide-spread media outrage at the Toronto police and the OPP over the way they’ve handled Caledonia, the Muslims blocking the QEW, the arrest and two year prosecution of Ian Thompson for defending his life from fire bombers, and etc? Because none of those things are inconvenient for the ruling faction, is why.
Ezra Levant, now he’s inconvenient. If Ezra Levant gets punched out by some bussed-in paid Lefist thug in front of the SUN building, its going to be Ezra Levant that gets arrested.
We even have precedent. Garry McHale in Caledonia. He’s been arrested several times for being assaulted by Indians and/or union thugs in Caledonia. Prosecuted too. For being assaulted. Not doing the assaulting.
I hear you, Phantom. I knew exactly what you meant.
Putting aside all philosophical discussion the salient point is that police are playing a dangerous game with the goodwill of the Canadian people. If a large segment of the population lose faith in the fairness and impartiality of law enforcement and that is starting to happen now then people could react in different negative ways. One thing for certain once lost that faith will be very difficult for police agencies to regain. Police should keep in mind the average hard working. tax paying citizen doesn’t buy into the politically correct nonsense espoused by Canadian left wing elites and they expect the cops to do their job.
not fun being a cop nowa days, nor are most cops hired for their intellect or knowledge of the law, they are hired to obey their political masters without thinking, kind of like they expect from you in the military. And many cops either take the job as idealists only to find out dreams aren’t reality. Other cops just love the power trip. I’v dealt with many cops over the years and fine that within the frame work of policing their is not all that much diversity in the ranks. They like to take the easyist path, and in this case that was probably the best choice, not only for them, but also for Ezera’s message, but not for the “equal” application of the law!!
ET, it isn’t that I completely disagree with your take on the police, but I think many of us are aware that this is not a unique situation. Time and time again the police fail to uphold the law, and prefer either to remove the individual under mob attack or to arrest the individual. Caledonia is a prime example, but there have been many more. This unfortunately has become the norm. Were this case unique, then most of us would probably agree with your view. I also disagree with people suggesting that the police should have acted based on “hate” speech, as a supporter of freedom of speech. As outrageous as their hatred of Jews was, none of them to my awareness were calling for violence against Jews. What I find good about true freedom of speech is that it allows everyone to know who the nutters are.
“What I find good about true freedom of speech is that it allows everyone to know who the nutters are.”
You betcha! We find one every week, Monday to Friday, 8:30 – 12:30, living the dream.
While watching this vid I found it very difficult to hear Ezra’s ‘chats’, as he was being drowned out with the din.
However, tonight on The Source he did an excellent breakdown of most encounters and conversations.
It was excellent and worth lnking in anyone knows how to set that up.
ET asks: “Occam, could you explain how the police did not uphold the ‘constitutional rule of law’? And how were the OWS/INM crowd breaking the law?”
Well the protesters engaged in criminal breaches such as vandalism, threats and criminal libel, not to mention assault upon Ezra. Levant OTOH committed no breach of law but was wrongfully (and illegally) singled out as a “cause” of the criminality the cops were witnessing. The police admitted to Levant that he was easier to contol than the law breakers. I also heard one policeman admit they were not going to arrest any protester ( in itself a breach of their oath and outside discretionary power). What happened was akin to arresting and charging the victim of mob violence for inciting a riot. Logical fallacy to be sure but certainly in breach of the constitutional application of the law.
I’ll let Chris Shafer of the Canadian constitution Foundation explain it: http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/video/featured/prime-time/867432237001/politics-of-policing/2109745140001
“Employable No More”
An utterly worthless collection of parasites, who would be unable to look after their own welfare without continual government handouts. And you know you have these bottom-feeders on the ropes when they scream and chant the usual “racist” blather.
Many, if not most of them, would benefit mightily from a good kick in the äss.
Here’s an experiment. Let’s separate all the left-wing teat-suckers in one group, and conservatives in another. Give each their choice of location in the country which to move, live and prosper, on their own, without assistance from the other. Give it a couple of years, and let’s see how everyone fares.
mhb23re
A very graphic media expose of the professional complainer left. I applaud Levant for not throttling or suing the belligerent Marxist revisionists who toss off defamatory accusations like spit balls. What I (and any objective viewer) saw in these clips was not any organized native protesters speaking for the majority of first nations people but your typical clutch of GTA rent-a-commies and union agitators looking for free face time on the broadcast media. There was no focused protest, no legitimate grievance, just the perennial caustic belly aching of far left loonies over those who hold different opinions and more hollow rhetoric espousing their imaginary victimhood dogma. They lost in the court of public opinion again on this move, as all disingenuous sociopaths should.
The best part of this incident is we now have a media documented/recorded case of Ontario police indoctrinated in not upholding the constitutional rule of law – picking on the people the far left attack rather than confronting the lawlessness/law-breaking of race politics agitators. An open, on record display of the two tiered policing which is bring both police and the law into wide public disrepute.
There was not a single protester that had a logical answer to anything Ezra asked. It was like dealing with spoiled preschoolers that all had a different agenda. Amazing how many people can fit into the shallow end of the gene pool.
For future protests in cities, perhaps some eager, smart web person could make a system to announce to interested people a chance to “show up” at these events. I’ve watched an anti-gun rally flooded with double the population of pro-gun people. Things got very quiet quick, and rather civil. Nothing breaks up a good mob, than a larger mob.
Ezra needs protection. Perfect candidate for CCW in Canada.
batb said: “The police’s job is not to “prevent violence.” Their job is to apply the law equally and to enforce Canada’s laws.”
This is a fundamental mistake. The job of police is not serve and protect, it is not to keep the peace, and it is most certainly not to “apply the law equally and to enforce Canada’s laws.
The job of the police, the job they are hired and trained to perform like seals in the circus, is TO DO AS THEY ARE TOLD. If they are told to go calm down that crowd, that’s what they’ll do. If they’re told to go get those d@mn townies away from the Indians, that’s what they’ll do. Go arrest Garry McHale for doing nothing, done! Go harass those rabble rousing SUN news racists, done! Lie in court, done!
The fundamental mistake we all make about these protesters is who they work for. They aren’t radicals, they aren’t trying to start a revolution. They may think they are, but that’s not where the money is coming from.
They work for The Man. They work for the government, basically.
Those illiterate, irrational useful idiots represent the faction of our society that wants more and bigger government, more and bigger taxes, more and bigger handouts. The same big money that backs the Liberal Party backs these OWS/INM fruitloops. Every time you see somebody stand up for lower taxes, freedom of speech, self defense, or smaller government you see this same clique of rabble show up in front of their place.
Conveniently, that’s who the cops work for too. So we can expect Ezra to get arrested lots and lots in the next few years. Just so we all know what’s what and who’s who.
..where was the water cannon when you really need it..?? this mob is the most disgusting example of low life I have ever seen….Can you spell STOOPID.?
I have to disagree with those who believe it is the job of the police to prevent violence or, in effect, prevent crime. Ezra was not contravening any law. If the police feared he was about to be assaulted it is reasonable for them to inform Ezra of such, which they did, but if Ezra, or anyone for that matter, decides not to avoid someone else’s criminal intent and accept the risk then it is not the job of the police nor their right to remove the person at risk. Their job is to enforce the law against assault, not prevent an assault. Police cannot be everywhere, we know, so personally I think it would be better to arrest a protester prone to assault and get him off the street rather than prevent the crime when the police are present. The police aren’t always there but the inclination to assault in that person probably is.
It is the same as police advising us not to leave valuables in our car, or our doors unlocked, or women to walk alone at night. It’s all good advice but it is not a crime to ignore it. Yet.
Phantom, I very often agree with you but not this time.
Ezra wasn’t arrested. Nor did the police harass the SUN columnists.
And I don’t see that the OWS/INM crowd work for the government. They side with the unions, the socialists and so on, but this isn’t ‘the government’ but an ideology.
Occam, could you explain how the police did not uphold the ‘constitutional rule of law’?
And how were the OWS/INM crowd breaking the law?
Both sides have the right of free speech. This includes insulting, hate-filled and irrational and ignorant speech. The next step for any rational person is to decide when and where to speak.
If either of you think that speaking to a crowd which has no interest in your ideas, no wish to listen to you, and even, resents your intention to impose your speech on them – is a rational or ‘just’ action..well…
After all, it’s the same thing for us who do not wish to listen to the OWS/INM nonsense. If they force their speech on us, insist that we listen to them, don’t we get resentful of their arrogance?
Just because we, both sides, have the right of free speech, does not mean that we must insist that someone else HEAR our speech. That goes for Ezra as well as the OWS/INM crowd.
Ezra got the best result. He got video of their racism, their irrationality, their ignorance, and can make all of that public. Period. To have incited that crowd to violence wouldn’t have achieved that result.
He’s no chicken that’s for sure. It takes some serious balls to show composure like that. Way to go Ezra!
Can anyone imagine any other media personality in Ezra’s shoes? Images of stumbling, terror, pleading apologies, spring to mind. Well done Ezra!
How subtly inaccurate is the label “Idle no More”. Clearly, the people in this video have been idle in the thinking department, for quite some time.
Wandering around aimlessly like a tool maybe makes you less idle physically. But mentally, they remain idle. Spouting slogans and drowning out those who disagree with you isn’t thinking.
Sad , really. Ezra does a great job showing this.
Ezra Ackbar!
ET
On this instance it may be correct to remove Ezra to prevent the situation from getting out of hand. However, on the whole I have a problem with the police removing someone peacefully exercising their rights because a mob chooses to threaten violence to them. Neither the protestors nor Ezra has any right to be heard nor does either have the right to engage in or threaten violence. If the protestors don’t want to hear him they can leave and same for him.
I think that the reaction of many people here is due to many high profile events where police have abandoned and bullied ordinary people in favor of threatening mobs. If I recall correctly, the day after the Ann Coulter event in Calgary the vice-president of her security detail wrote an op-ed in the National Post stating that the police not only refused to disperse the crowd at the exit but also threatened to arrest all of them if they chose to leave.
There are plenty of even more egregious examples of police, shall we say, timidity of which I’m sure everyone here is well aware. As far as I’m concerned they’re just armed tax collectors and I hold them in no high regard, to put it lightly.
This is the spoiled child’s voice of the native movement – emotional, demanding and throwing tantrums when they don’t get what they want. If the adults in the movement allow themselves to be defined by their children – blocades, shrill protests – they have no chance at progress. Just the opposite.
I agree with ET that free speech rights aren’t a matter of if we agree with a point of view or how it’s presented. Too bad the leftists in this country don’t see it that way and think they should shut up anyone who offends them.
There is goodwill between natives and other Canadians despite some recent over the top escapades, andt there is potential for positive results for everyone. Yes, let’s get on with land claims (BTW that doesn’t mean you grant every one and/or rely on spurious evidence – apparently over 100% of BC is under some land claim). Secondly, there will be accountability – bands that prove they can properly run their communities will be given more and more autonomy – that signal is clear with the PM’s personal intervention. Forget this “nation to nation” nonsense (BTW – foreign aid is conditional too).
The native movement needs to look into the mirror before they can truly benefit their communities. Childish tantrums in front of media offices won’t get it done.
ET “The hate speech laws (section 318 of the Criminal Code) we have in Canada refer only to public advocation of genocide of an identifiable group.”
You might want to read Section 319.
Ezra – as always, thank you. Thank you.
Ezra is a true brave patriot.
Notice his use of the Socratic method: he asks for examples and doesn’t get any.
There is a bit of a disconnect in the arguments above.
On the one hand in defending gun rights we point out that the cops aren’t there to protect us, just to draw chalk circles and gather stats; on the other hand when they step in, as they’ve done here, we also complain.
I am slowly coming to the conclusion that thanks to G20 protests, Occupy, INM, etc., Canadians’ “Right to Peaceful Protest” is no longer practical to allow.
Phantom, as usual, defines the difference between theory and reality.Cops do as they are told by their Masters or suffer the consequences. That’s their job,now.
Most police officers go into this line of work for the low risk, high pay,and very nice pension after only 25 years. Previous generations of police officers DID go into that career for the good of the community and the Country and to “serve and protect”, but those guys are long retired.
I grew up in a small,rowdy town in Northern Manitoba. We had a town cop,who double-dutied as garbage collector,and two RCMP officers. The RCMP had to police three Indian Reserves,five towns and an area of thousands of square miles of bush country,and they did it very well.
In those days, the name “Sam Steele” was still remembered,and his history still revered. The RCMP were tough,honest,fair,and fearless.I saw many occasions where one RCMP would wade into a fight with three or four yahoos
and still make an arrest. Many times the cops took a lot of punches,but as they were sober and usually good fighters,never got hurt too badly.
But, they applied the law equally,and they were well respected,even by the criminal element. I can’t believe how a once proud and effective police force has deteriorated into a politically correct bunch,hanging on until they get their pension.
The same can be said for the Provincial and City police forces in Canada as well, little or no character left, just civil servants putting in time until pensioned off.
Brave as he is ,it was still better for the police to move him aside…….You all know,witnesses ,video,and testimony from police,there would have been a long,long delay,then an appealled sentence,if the idiots had smacked Ezra around or stomped him.
It could have been a liberal arts university field trip complete with a few professors for “intellectual” leadership. It was actually quite a tame crowd, nothing like a union mob.
With some notable exceptions, the FNs have been destroyed by apartheid and subsequent century and a half of marination in isolated communal ghettos of grievance and entitlement. Their salvation won’t come easily if at all.
They should be bribed (with cash and or land in individual title) into assimilation and then eliminate the Indian Act and all future dealings, as with everyone else, would be through provincial jurisdiction. If not, nothing will change.
Naw…the watercannon is so yesterday.
I think the best ‘weapon’ is the video recording of their stupidity, and Ezra’s calm intelligence.
They are too stupid to realise they have witnessed freedom of the press.
Too stupid to know that ‘racism’ is ignoring the truth because it might ‘offend’….(fill in the blank for the race or culture du jour).
Some have suggested ‘counter protests’…Kate has described the failure of conservatives showing up to riot,so it probably won’t happen.
I sure hope Ezra has ‘security’.
scar, yes, I know about section 319. It doesn’t change my argument.
The key term, as in section 318, is ‘inciting’ or ‘wilfully promoting hatred’ as in advocating or inciting genocide (318) or ‘inciting or promoting hatred against an identifiable group’ (319)AND where such incitement is ‘likely to lead to a breach of the peace’.
Those people who were ‘Jew bashing’ against Ezra could not be said to be ‘inciting hatred’ or even advocating a breach of the peace. They were expressing their own hatred. That falls under, alas, freedom of expression.
You got the inside track Occam. Many decades ago, when I was in school, I had a History teacher who always isolated the immediate cause from the underlying cause in any human action. In order to find the underlying cause of any ‘action’ people must have a solid base of knowledge from which to extract possible motivation for an ‘action’.
IMO, Ezra has uncovered the underlying cause – the money taxpayers shovel into Indian Reserves is gobbled up by Indian Chiefs and their pals (gument bureaucrats, contract treaty rights agitators, lawyers, lawyer help, courts….kickbacks…). The fear of losing this lucrative income is sending panic (batb had a much better word) into the fat bank accounts of those in the ‘Indian Business”, chief Spender told the msm where the money was spent – lawyers, advisers, salaries for band elders, courts – was no one listening? This racketeering has been going on for decades but Ezra is blowing the lid off the racket and the elites are getting nervous. The isolated indian reserve with all band members depending on money from the Chief (at the Chief’s discretion) is an ideal place to ferment hate. Economic control is essential to work a Bolshevik type bloodbath and takeover of a country. This Idle thingie is following the Cloward and Piven plan – pitting citizens against each other.
Ezra has taken the side of the economically enslaved reservation indians who must cow tow to the Chief to extract any benefits from the billions that are shoveled into the coffers. Ezra has courage. Demanding accountability for dollars spent is the underlying reason for the elitist ‘demonstrations’ across the country,IMO.
ET, Ezra has the right to be on the street and to talk with people who disagree with him without the police hustling him off to the side.
ET said: “Phantom, I very often agree with you but not this time.
Ezra wasn’t arrested. Nor did the police harass the SUN columnists.
And I don’t see that the OWS/INM crowd work for the government. They side with the unions, the socialists and so on, but this isn’t ‘the government’ but an ideology.”
I didn’t mean to say that they work for the government as in being on the payroll. They work for the same faction in our society as the one that -controls- our government and its institutions. As do the police. So it is no accident that Ezra is the one that gets taken aside by the cops in an altercation where he’s doing nothing and the mob is getting violent.
I guarantee you that had the roles been reversed, Conservative “mob” vs. CBC reporter, there would have been arrests made.
That’s the mistake we keep making. Its not an ideology. Its a -faction-, and it moves to protect its own interests as we see in the video.
Why do you think there’s no wide-spread media outrage at the Toronto police and the OPP over the way they’ve handled Caledonia, the Muslims blocking the QEW, the arrest and two year prosecution of Ian Thompson for defending his life from fire bombers, and etc? Because none of those things are inconvenient for the ruling faction, is why.
Ezra Levant, now he’s inconvenient. If Ezra Levant gets punched out by some bussed-in paid Lefist thug in front of the SUN building, its going to be Ezra Levant that gets arrested.
We even have precedent. Garry McHale in Caledonia. He’s been arrested several times for being assaulted by Indians and/or union thugs in Caledonia. Prosecuted too. For being assaulted. Not doing the assaulting.
I hear you, Phantom. I knew exactly what you meant.
Putting aside all philosophical discussion the salient point is that police are playing a dangerous game with the goodwill of the Canadian people. If a large segment of the population lose faith in the fairness and impartiality of law enforcement and that is starting to happen now then people could react in different negative ways. One thing for certain once lost that faith will be very difficult for police agencies to regain. Police should keep in mind the average hard working. tax paying citizen doesn’t buy into the politically correct nonsense espoused by Canadian left wing elites and they expect the cops to do their job.
not fun being a cop nowa days, nor are most cops hired for their intellect or knowledge of the law, they are hired to obey their political masters without thinking, kind of like they expect from you in the military. And many cops either take the job as idealists only to find out dreams aren’t reality. Other cops just love the power trip. I’v dealt with many cops over the years and fine that within the frame work of policing their is not all that much diversity in the ranks. They like to take the easyist path, and in this case that was probably the best choice, not only for them, but also for Ezera’s message, but not for the “equal” application of the law!!
ET, it isn’t that I completely disagree with your take on the police, but I think many of us are aware that this is not a unique situation. Time and time again the police fail to uphold the law, and prefer either to remove the individual under mob attack or to arrest the individual. Caledonia is a prime example, but there have been many more. This unfortunately has become the norm. Were this case unique, then most of us would probably agree with your view. I also disagree with people suggesting that the police should have acted based on “hate” speech, as a supporter of freedom of speech. As outrageous as their hatred of Jews was, none of them to my awareness were calling for violence against Jews. What I find good about true freedom of speech is that it allows everyone to know who the nutters are.
“What I find good about true freedom of speech is that it allows everyone to know who the nutters are.”
You betcha! We find one every week, Monday to Friday, 8:30 – 12:30, living the dream.
While watching this vid I found it very difficult to hear Ezra’s ‘chats’, as he was being drowned out with the din.
However, tonight on The Source he did an excellent breakdown of most encounters and conversations.
It was excellent and worth lnking in anyone knows how to set that up.
ET asks: “Occam, could you explain how the police did not uphold the ‘constitutional rule of law’? And how were the OWS/INM crowd breaking the law?”
Well the protesters engaged in criminal breaches such as vandalism, threats and criminal libel, not to mention assault upon Ezra. Levant OTOH committed no breach of law but was wrongfully (and illegally) singled out as a “cause” of the criminality the cops were witnessing. The police admitted to Levant that he was easier to contol than the law breakers. I also heard one policeman admit they were not going to arrest any protester ( in itself a breach of their oath and outside discretionary power). What happened was akin to arresting and charging the victim of mob violence for inciting a riot. Logical fallacy to be sure but certainly in breach of the constitutional application of the law.
I’ll let Chris Shafer of the Canadian constitution Foundation explain it:
http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/video/featured/prime-time/867432237001/politics-of-policing/2109745140001