Last week I postulated that the El Niño/El Niña effect was not due to solar or atmospheric conditions, but actually caused by underwater volcanic activity along ocean ridges off the West coast of South America. To see whether my theory held water I decided to look into the Argo Float data to see if there it was showing a warm upwelling of water in this region. I apparently was correct.
My initial assessment was that the frigid Humbult Current that comes north from the Antarctic region along the west coast of South America (the mirror image of the current that drops down from the Arctic along the west coast of North America) could not be warmed so drastically in such a short time by sun and air alone. This is due to the physics of ocean currents and the massive amount of heat required to warm tons of cold water moving northward per second…
h/t Melinda Romanoff
Outstanding!
Anthropogenic CO2 it ain’t!
The TEAM just got iced…..
Yet another example of “settled” science.
Often wondered when diving in the Caribbean how the water can be so warm 50 feet under!!
The real scientists are beginning to show their data without fear. As more of them come out of the closet, the ‘scientists’ with political agendas will carry less clout.
Somewhere there are bureaucrats trying to figure out how to implement a Volcano cooling tax now that the CO2 scam is just about worn out.
I would sure like to see this correlated with measured volcanic activity. As far as I can tell, the volcanic activity is surmised, not observed.
This was news maybe 20, 30 years ago.
So, how does the SUV fit into the equation?
Mike, the volcanic activity isn’t surmised, it’s well known that the oceanic ridges are volcanic. See here: Ocean Ridges
Such a theory, if true, would imply that there is a cyclical nature to volcanic activity – that there is a relatively predictable waxing and waning of this activity as there is a predicability to the el nino/el ninas. Does anyone have strong data on that?
If the cyclical nature is true, then the correlation of el nino/el nina should be very strong. And it stands to reason as the heat generated has to dissipate into and be contained by the oceans rather than being lost quickly into space when an above water volcano erupts.
Thus, if true, its going to ruin a lot of agw climatologists days and, ultimately, careers.
Does anyone have strong data on that?
~Gord Tulk
Vortex Tectonics: The Primary Factors Which Govern Earth Dynamics
hmm…volcanic activity cyclical…wonder if it correlates with solar cycles?
And in more AGW non-news:
http://heartland.org/press-releases/2012/02/15/heartland-institute-responds-stolen-and-fake-documents
Anthropgenic vulcanism …. it’s true … I saw it on TV news.
Tax the sh!t out of everything before it’s too late!
Is this where boiling frogs come from?
Actually, like the CO2 fairytale the boiling frog theory also should be questioned.
http://www.snopes.com/critters/wild/frogboil.asp
Could someone git the IPCC’s opinion on this????
their TRAIN of thought releventi on this
It’s too bad that a membership is required to post there. Sometimes long-term low-flow events can be concentrated naturally. Upriver from Hyder, Alaska (right along the US/Canada border at the end of the Portland Canal fiord) is a very wide river plain for a small river. One of the reasons for the large river valley can be found in Summit Lake, just south of the former Granduc mine.
You see, the valley bottom is covered by a glacier ( which also fills the valley downstream for about 8km). The ice is heavy, and there’s a lot of it. It wants to float, but there’s not enough water to make it float. So the lake gets larger and larger until it hits a high enough volume that it can lift the ice out of the way… and the lake drains almost completely underneith the glacier. This is a cyclic event (I think it’s every year, but I’ve never lived in Stewart or Hyder and so am not sure) that concentrates the precipitation and snowmelt for that valley to a brief (1-2 day?) event.
I can’t think of a similar physical blocking mechanism that could apply to hot water at depth being contained and then a concentration of it occuring in short order, but it’s a possibility.
C_Miner-
What do you think created the drill holes West of Missoula, Montana? When the lake built up enough pressure to undercut the dam, all the moraine material went with it. It made some nice indentations on the way to the Pacific. Cool aerial photos and film are available on the phenomena. It’s the purported death throe of a glacier.
The whole Grand Coulee was formed by that event.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Coulee
I didn’t jump on the AGW bandwagon, so to be fair, I’ll wait for more research on this theory. Sounds reasonable, though.
The fresh water scare has already begun (as I and many others predicted).
Volcanism being cyclical…..perhaps.
Solar tidal forces…..the sun’s magnetic field varies unlike the moon…..
Our sun may not just affect weather directly by it’s cycles, produce CME Carrington events and aurora…..but may also be trigger mechanism for continental drift, massive earthquakes and super volcanoes.
If Yellowstone pops….
It is fairly well established that Santorini destroyed the Minoan civilization….perhaps the origin of the Atlantis legend…..
C_Miner, Melinda Romanoff, North of 60
That Alaska cyclical flash flood and the Grand Coulee events (probably several)….
Jökulhlaup…..my favourite word….
Glacial Lakes Missoula and Aggasis both are thought to have drained by that process.
I am convinced the St Croix River Valley of Minnesota is the result of a similar catastophic draining of Lake Superior from it’s Holocene maximum….
Jökulhlaup…..
Melinda/No60/Sasq I’m not suprised by any of your postings, they’re part of our landscape. The reason I was disappointed that the hosting site couldn’t be posted upon was that I’m not sure that the original author was aware of them. That’s the power of the web, we’re each experts (or at least knowledgable) on a small subsection of the totality of knowledge, the challenge is to make sure that people making broad pronouncements within our fields (but possibly ignorant of what we’ve learned) can hear us.
C_Miner,
Go here http://blog.blueiceaviation.com/photo-and-video-of-the-day-valley-of-the-gian
and I think you will find what you were talking about. Check out Matt’s whole blog for some great stuff.
C_Minor-
AJ Strata, statistician extraordinaire, was under attack some years ago for blowing up the polling data for both the Gore and Kerry campaigns. He is hayed by the left.
And closed his comment boards as a result.
(I think I’ve got that story straight.)
“hated”.
Ooops.