“No journalism here, only obedience…”
Roger Harrabin and Joe Smith write to UEA warmist Mike Hulme, ask: “What should the BBC be doing this time in terms of news, current affairs, drama, documentaries, game shows, music etc?”
Related – I’ll let others psychoanalyze the bizarre opposition to such news, and I’ll let the scientists explain the science and the actual number of people on each side of the issue. What I am able to do is show what the mainstream media buries, namely all the red flags surrounding accusations against skeptic scientists.
h/t Russell
What’s the big deal? Typical letter from an upper level apparatchik to the Politburo asking for instructions. Nothing to see here, move-on.org
Yes, the biggest victim of warmist fraud is science. Is it now acceptable to put politics first and science second? Does this vindicate all the drug companies who may have influenced results of research in getting approval for drugs. After all, they did talk the loudest.
So, all the night workers are not out hustling on the street.
Sad, that these “cultists of the climate”, were never taught by their mommys and daddys, DON’T LIE to me or anyone, it will only get you in trouble. Did they all come from broken homes, and had no one to teach them, because the real world is a harsh teacher, it had it’s hands cuffed through the 60’s to the 90’s because of corrupt leftie news only, but since the internets invention the real world is once again teaching liars and thieves their life lessons, here is another example. The internet has allowed each and every concerned citizen to become a truth sleuth, because there is always someone who lives next door to the liars, or knows their routines and backgrounds that lets the proverbial cat, out of the bag through this medium. Stop lying, that is the easiest, get a paying job keep yourselves honest and live off your own work instead of someone else’s like lefties like Greenpeace Pembina Suzuki do. Sorry north of 60, I did it again.
And this story is a surprise to whom? I work in resource extraction, and have previously sat on land-use planning boards. The park proponent folks had no trouble moving from one lie to the next, while we had to work and research to dis-prove their allegations.
Game shows? The price is right game of guessing the cost of carbon credits, perhaps.
Surprised that children’s programming isn’t included in the list.
Things may have changed, but at one time the BBC Pension Funds were heavily invested
in every moonbat enviro scam that came down the pike looking for suckers. They had the
votes from their sheep and that gave them the authority to ignore all reasoned economic
advice coming from the administrators and managers of their plans. These facts might have
raised questions of conflict of interest if attributed to mere mortals like grubby capitalists,
but no one at the beeb would dream of cheer leading for the global warming marxists solely
on the basis that their own comfortable retirements were closely tied to the success of silly
fear mongering and the careful avoidance of letting the truth tellers be heard. (Snicker)
The accusation of bias presupposes that the mainstream media, whether state-owned or privately held, thinks that their role is to report facts objectively. If one were to ask the average reporter (artsies by training) if they thought their role was to report science objectively or help save the planet, guess how they would respond?
The secular state no longer exists. The watermelon state sees unconstrained government as salvation from the Satan of capitalism. Green narratives have supplanted sound science along with mainstream Christianity over the last several generations and the institutions responsible (NGOs, media , entertainment, academia and government agencies) have become the default habitat of the looters and thugs of the left.
The so-called skeptics, correctly attempting to expose their malfeasance assume that the perps care about the rules when in reality they aren’t even playing in the same league, let alone game. They want their church to have ever more power over your diminishing freedom and property, truth has nothing to do with it.
And the CBC is different ? CBC radio has every tree hugger and moonbat conceivable giving their viewpoint and I have yet to hear a opposing opinion. Native issues and global doom dominate the air waves and is always followed by phone lines lighting up with frantic lefties and their confirmations. I guess every country needs a outlet for their far left wingnuts but why do we all have to pay for it? It would be interesting to see how long the BBC/CBC would last if they had to support themselves. My guess is……what time is it now?
John Chittick @ 1:11 PM
“The so-called skeptics, correctly attempting to expose their malfeasance assume that the perps care about the rules when in reality they aren’t even playing in the same league, let alone game. They want their church to have ever more power over your diminishing freedom and property, truth has nothing to do with it.”
I shall award an A+ for that post. Well written, as concise as possible, with a precise summation.
I aspire to write so well…but then I can’t play bagpipes either…but I can detect merit just by listening.
John @ 1:11:
Bravo!
75 years ago Harrabin would have been colluding with the Progressives of that era (can you say Tommy Douglas) to promote Eugenics, sell the sterilization of “imbeciles” and lobotomization of the mentally ill.
Just channeling his inner Duranty with his love of AGW fear mongering.
This is not just a problem in Britain, we have the same problem in Canada.
Our news media have distorted coverage of the climate change or global warming issue constantly since the mid-1980s when it first appeared.
Canadian skeptics are blacklisted and subjected to vicious defamation campaigns. I know because I am one, perhaps the prime example. Go into any Environment Canada or Weather Network office and ask around about me (Roger Smith) and you’ll be told vicious lies, same as a few others I could name who have dared to voice an alternative theory of climate variation. Yet I am fully accepted on weather forums outside of Canada.
This has been going on for 32 years now, it’s not something that I forgot to mention last week.
The real loser here is the prostitution of science into pseudo science. People no longer look up to this profession nor sadly trust it anymore.
A fee rotten apples have destroyed another barrel.
In the end people will do what people have always done to swindlers.
Science in the end will just mean the same as the word money sting.
Already as Mark Steyn says . On concentration on state approved theories like this, where once we had real advancement. WE are in a stasis now. Think 1900 to 1960. Today the world is almost no different than the 60s except information tech. Which is now slowing down as well. Computers used to double their chip power every two months. I haven’t seen a change really in 4 years. The money is in con games now like Global warming & other fantasies while real research is down graded. Restrictions with regulations keep monopolies in power while innovation is frowned on. Lie the Emperor Augustus forbidding the development of hay bailing. threshing machines, or the steam engine. To keep a slave empire running least the slaves have time to think of their plight.
Eventually as happened in Europe some Nations will really advance over the conformity of our societies.
That or the barbarians will bring in a dark age as they catch up to our gerontocracy.
Instead of invoking some kind of cabal from the mainstream media agains them, ‘skeptics’ probably need to take a look in the mirror as to their lack of credibility.
You’d think with the billions in cash from hardcore capitalists and cornucopians backing them, skeptic scientists would have found a real, smoking gun flaw in AGW. Something that could be published in a credible science journal and would surely be worthy of a Nobel prize.
Instead, they trot out a retinue of shills that keep contradicting each other, question well known facts and replace them with bunk (e.g. it’s not warming, CO2 comes from the ocean, the CO2 spectrum is saturated, etc), or focus on non-issues like Climategate, which, face it, involve a handful of scientists out of thousands of them. Why for example is Lord Monckton an ‘authority’ when he’s just a blowhard who’s been debunked thoroughly many times, often by himself. Sorry, I can’t take those guys seriously.
You want to win? Attack AGW where it is weak, i.e., in its predictive value. There are 3 issues:
– climate sensitivity is not well known
– some forcings, like aerosols, are not well understood
– some feedbacks are not understood.
These are not fatal flaws. All they do is making predictions of future warming dicey at best. No need to throw billions into green energy, carbon trade, etc – yet. That’s my 2 cents.
John Chittick @ 1:11 and Peter O’Donnell @ 2:27, well said and thank you. A+ is right.
This whole topic has nothing to do with changes in climate. That is just a convenient excuse and cover for a political agenda many thought collapsed in 1990.
To be blunt, this whole AGW thing is so obviously a load of steaming BS, it’s a wonder any sentient entity can profess belief in it. Sure, I will transfer my life savings to a flim-flam scam. After all, I have some land in Florida I need to keep above water.
GreenNeck at December 28, 2011 4:57 PM
the whole “methodology of the studies” sucks, but when people are to stupid,or uninformed, or caught up in a belief system ot see this, and the MSM refuses to report honestly, you are fighting an up hill battle. So your suggestions have merit, just that you speak them in a vacuum!!!!
AGW-CO2 is all about distracting people from toxic pollution. Toxic pollution is very profitable, capturing it is expensive, people don’t want to pay more for clean energy. It’s easier to keep them distracted by the CO2 myth so they don’t demand answers to inconvenient questions about toxic pollution, habitat destruction, species extinction, overpopulation…
North of 60
Not really….it is about what James Delingpole terms “watermelons”….green on the outside but red on the inside. That is the sum and total of it…the losers of the COLD WAR seek final, absolute victory by means of the climate scam….UN WORLD GOVERNENT…with them in charge of course…..and the rest of us in “re-education camps”…….or dead.
Genuine toxic polution is not terribly difficult or expensive to capture….that is rationally….it is not rational to sequester CO2….one of the inconvenient truths is that uranium is one of the polutants from coal burning….evidence that coal is abiotic not fossil…formed from time to time (probably during magnetic reversals) by a process similar to the carbon14 and berylium10 which is constantly formed in the upper atmosphere and precipitates constantly.
Greenneck~ You are an IDIOT.
@ Greeneck
You do understand that you are going to a gunfight armed with a pen knife, no ?