TV hosts: “ticket misunderstanding”.
Wanker ex-cop: “could have been handled better”
Me: Well done big man.
What a cringing, hand wringing lot of sissies the Scots are turning into.
The passenger that helped the conductor must be an Argyll.
Ye old days for the win.
BBC Commie..”Divided Opinion..”
Me: UK is soooooooo screwed….
This is what happens to a nation when there’s 4 channels on tv and they’re all run by the government
And that is how to handle people who occupy places they have no right to occupy.
Former police officer. Hope he isn’t representative of the rank and file.
More likely a career in Diaper Duty (talking to school kids) or GLBT Liason.
This is how the middle 98% deal with the bottom 1%.
The young guy on the BBC interview didn’t see where the problem was and neither do I. Looked like it was well done to me.
that turd should have been carried off unconscious
There isn’t a mass transit system in the world that doesn’t run in the red.
They’re all subsidized by people who don’t ride them at all.
What’s the difference if he’s bought a ticket and travelled further than the ticket allows?
Additionally, anyone who scrutinizes the results of the last UK election can see that Scotland overwhelmingly voted for(*spit*) socialists.
Former policeman?
No wonder great britain is in trouble.
What a nancy…
Subtitles might have been nice.
That ex-cop must have gone to the Julian Fantino Police Academy.
I think every public transport worker who has to deal with drunks and druggies on a regular basis cheered heartily when they saw the “Big Guy” grab the little asshole and turf him off the train.
As the video kid said,if they’d waited for the Transit Cops to show up they’d have sat there for two hours.
Good to see a citizen get involved. I nominate him for the Order of Scotland. đ
This is exactly how to handle people like that little socialist wannabe “occupier”,guess he found out that he couldn t “occupy” that seat without a ticket.
Darn. The train wasn’t moving.
“The Scottish soldier,
There was none bolder.”
The World needs more men to stand up to these freebooters.
dwright: defender of little old ladies and patron Saint Of well Painted Crosswalks save Children To.
My big wright hand would have that kid’s neck.
while my God and Guitar hand fed him punches.
I was waiting for the clonk sound of skull meeting pavement.
I bet everybody showed their ticket after this.
(Sarcasm on) I am glad that it was not one of the new immigrants, there would be riots in the streets and this ticket guy would have death threats [along with the âbig guyâ.] I think that is how the police should have handled the âoccupiersâ in the past few months; the citizens would have actually applauded the police for enforcing the law, and they could have regained the respect. ” This is how the middle 98% deal with the bottom 1%.” Posted by: BillyHW 10:26 PM (Sarcasm off)
I am so glad this was resolved so well. It restores some faith in society.
The policeman, however, is depressing. Lawyers have to speak that way (or find it profitable to convince us they do). Public relations officers likewise. Bur ordinary officers are supposed to know it is a sham. Of course, he may be an outlier. Maybe that is why the BBC selected him.
I am going to take a different stance here. As the parent of a young man who spent some time on the streets. Strangers showed him some kindness when he needed it most and it changed him. Maybe the kid just wanted to get home and had no money, youth unemployment is pretty high there. An act of kindness, paying his fare, may have made a bigger impression than being thrown on his arse.
Just watched the MSM interview. Gag me.
Mr. Mike Pannet, “Former Policeman”, is the perfect example of why Scotland is crap these days. “Could have been handled better” is UK cop code for “uppity citizens getting above themselves” and taking actions they are not authorized for.
Because in his mind, people acting to preserve civility on their own, without GETTING PERMISSION, is much worse than the ugly little yob holding up the train and stealing a ride. Only cops are -allowed- to do that, they have received authorization from the source of all power, Higher Authority.
Its not a response one usually sees in a free country, lets just say.
Susan, take it from me. Being thrown off a train on your @ss by a random stranger makes a hell of an impression. He’s definitely going to think twice before trying to steal his next ride or lip off to the ticket geezer.
Susan, Susan, Susan, why would you buy a ticket for some mouthy abusive punk who thinks his sh*t doesn’t stink? Didn’t you hear Ian said he was going to spot him some fare until he started swearing?
As far as the former cop and interviewers go, I can only assume their lawyers told them what was politically correct to say.
Susan I wasn’t aware that high unemployment caused young men to swear and steal, thanks for sharing!
Maybe what you say is true, but then I would expect that the young man would try to make his case for that – instead he was foul mouthed and rude and and tried to convince the conductor that he was wrong (when I suspect the conductor has pretty much seen every attempt to scam the system). Maybe if the young lad had come clean and said he didn’t have any money but he needed to get home and asked for other passengers to contribute some coin towards his ticket, he would have been much further ahead (and probably on his way home!!). Instead he used his sense of entitlement and got nowhere!
This should be sent to mayor moonbeam in Vancouver with a paragraph on the back explaining what he and his looser bunch should have done with the mess at the art gallery. (is the Alice reference to vague?)
@FREE. The message would be completely lost on moonbeam because he is a well known transit fare evader (theif) himself.
Sadly the kid will sue the passanger, Scotrail and the conductor.
Once in the justice system you enter Alice in Woderland.
Could you appeal to natural justice in this case?
As crowd reaction showed the normal human reaction to parasites. Especially foulmouthed “bawbags” (love that phrase)
Susan can suck one…..
EP that was uncalled for as Susan neatly qualified her statement and it rings as very reasonable.
I can see Susan’s point of view that “sometimes” kindness and understanding can go a long way, unfortunately this young man did everything to alienate pretty well everyone that would be inclined to help.
Ask any Scotsman (or woman) and you will be told quite frankly that the language (abusive) and attitude of Scot’s youth is pathetic. When I visited last I was shocked to hear what passes as ‘conversational’ English. Kids of 4 regularly drop the f-bomb and it’s pervasive EVERYWHERE. I even had a pub manager appologise to us at our table for the language we couldn’t help but overhear. He explained that there was nothing he could do about it because Scottish society had accepted that type of conduct as it was now the ‘new normal’. North, south, east, west… it was all the same. I was shocked and disappointed for what lay ahead for Scottish society.
My elderly relatives said if a person was to intervene and complain, that person would more than likely be stabbed… as was a conductor who confronted 2 other teens with no tickets elsewhere on the Scotsrail system around the same time as this incident.
Lowering standards of conduct has NOT helped the UK in ANY way… now it’s come back to haunt them! So sad too bad!!
Yeah, that ex policeman was a jerk. He sounded just like the pansy administrators in our public school systemsâand our police. When school behaviour codes and actual LAWS are broken by the lowest common denominator, these impostors shirk their duty to their constituenciesâdecent, law-abiding citizensâand turn a blind eye. What theyâre really saying to the rest of us is, âRule of law? Forgeddabout it.â What scum.
And BRAVO to that fine citizen who made sure the train would get the other passengers to where they needed to go, more or less on time. Isnât that one of the main points? What ârightâ does that young punk have to âoccupyâ the train, illegally, while holding hundreds of others hostage? No one on the TV show mentioned that. I wonder, do the ticket takers have the right to turf someone off? If not, they should.
If the decent citizens of the West don’t start pushing the bullies back, we’ll be saying hello to a whole new, dark age of slavery.
Gotta love a good Scottish accent!
Had this happened in toronto, it’d be Rob Ford’s fault for not building more basketball courts for the punk
mhb23re
at gmail d0t calm
The interviewed cop is union rules bound in his thinking. You see, protecting the general public from fraud and violence is the cops’ job. We infringe on their contract rights when we do the job ourselves.
I know a bunch of cops, mostly retired, and before PC had reached the manic stage we’re in now. To my question: “Should I have a gun to protect my family” they invariably answer in the negative. It’s turf, jurisdictional thing.
Me No Dhimmi:
As a retired RCMP officer, having been involved in investigation of serious criminal offences for nearly 30 years (I skipped the uniform and traffic duties), my response to your question as to whether you should have a gun to protect your family is a resounding “YES”.
I, more than most, I suppose, have seen what is going on in our society. As a result, I have armed myself. Not for me, but to protect my family.
Those who expect that the police are going to be able to pespond quickly to emergent situations are wrong. The resources are just not there. It is not that the police don’t care, it is just that they cannot possibly accomodate all emergent requests.
After I retired I recognized this and armed myself. I am not a gun-toting, wild-eyed survivalist…I am highly educated, was a fairly senior officer in the RCMP, and I chose to arm myself to protect my family.
I suggest you do the same.
Like Bruce said, when seconds count the cops are only moments away!
Cheers Big Man. Well done Ian.
TV hosts: “ticket misunderstanding”.
Wanker ex-cop: “could have been handled better”
Me: Well done big man.
What a cringing, hand wringing lot of sissies the Scots are turning into.
The passenger that helped the conductor must be an Argyll.
Ye old days for the win.
BBC Commie..”Divided Opinion..”
Me: UK is soooooooo screwed….
This is what happens to a nation when there’s 4 channels on tv and they’re all run by the government
And that is how to handle people who occupy places they have no right to occupy.
Former police officer. Hope he isn’t representative of the rank and file.
More likely a career in Diaper Duty (talking to school kids) or GLBT Liason.
This is how the middle 98% deal with the bottom 1%.
The young guy on the BBC interview didn’t see where the problem was and neither do I. Looked like it was well done to me.
that turd should have been carried off unconscious
There isn’t a mass transit system in the world that doesn’t run in the red.
They’re all subsidized by people who don’t ride them at all.
What’s the difference if he’s bought a ticket and travelled further than the ticket allows?
Additionally, anyone who scrutinizes the results of the last UK election can see that Scotland overwhelmingly voted for(*spit*) socialists.
Former policeman?
No wonder great britain is in trouble.
What a nancy…
Subtitles might have been nice.
That ex-cop must have gone to the Julian Fantino Police Academy.
I think every public transport worker who has to deal with drunks and druggies on a regular basis cheered heartily when they saw the “Big Guy” grab the little asshole and turf him off the train.
As the video kid said,if they’d waited for the Transit Cops to show up they’d have sat there for two hours.
Good to see a citizen get involved. I nominate him for the Order of Scotland. đ
This is exactly how to handle people like that little socialist wannabe “occupier”,guess he found out that he couldn t “occupy” that seat without a ticket.
Darn. The train wasn’t moving.
“The Scottish soldier,
There was none bolder.”
The World needs more men to stand up to these freebooters.
dwright: defender of little old ladies and patron Saint Of well Painted Crosswalks save Children To.
My big wright hand would have that kid’s neck.
while my God and Guitar hand fed him punches.
I was waiting for the clonk sound of skull meeting pavement.
I bet everybody showed their ticket after this.
(Sarcasm on) I am glad that it was not one of the new immigrants, there would be riots in the streets and this ticket guy would have death threats [along with the âbig guyâ.] I think that is how the police should have handled the âoccupiersâ in the past few months; the citizens would have actually applauded the police for enforcing the law, and they could have regained the respect. ” This is how the middle 98% deal with the bottom 1%.” Posted by: BillyHW 10:26 PM (Sarcasm off)
I am so glad this was resolved so well. It restores some faith in society.
The policeman, however, is depressing. Lawyers have to speak that way (or find it profitable to convince us they do). Public relations officers likewise. Bur ordinary officers are supposed to know it is a sham. Of course, he may be an outlier. Maybe that is why the BBC selected him.
I am going to take a different stance here. As the parent of a young man who spent some time on the streets. Strangers showed him some kindness when he needed it most and it changed him. Maybe the kid just wanted to get home and had no money, youth unemployment is pretty high there. An act of kindness, paying his fare, may have made a bigger impression than being thrown on his arse.
Just watched the MSM interview. Gag me.
Mr. Mike Pannet, “Former Policeman”, is the perfect example of why Scotland is crap these days. “Could have been handled better” is UK cop code for “uppity citizens getting above themselves” and taking actions they are not authorized for.
Because in his mind, people acting to preserve civility on their own, without GETTING PERMISSION, is much worse than the ugly little yob holding up the train and stealing a ride. Only cops are -allowed- to do that, they have received authorization from the source of all power, Higher Authority.
Its not a response one usually sees in a free country, lets just say.
Susan, take it from me. Being thrown off a train on your @ss by a random stranger makes a hell of an impression. He’s definitely going to think twice before trying to steal his next ride or lip off to the ticket geezer.
Susan, Susan, Susan, why would you buy a ticket for some mouthy abusive punk who thinks his sh*t doesn’t stink? Didn’t you hear Ian said he was going to spot him some fare until he started swearing?
As far as the former cop and interviewers go, I can only assume their lawyers told them what was politically correct to say.
Susan I wasn’t aware that high unemployment caused young men to swear and steal, thanks for sharing!
Maybe what you say is true, but then I would expect that the young man would try to make his case for that – instead he was foul mouthed and rude and and tried to convince the conductor that he was wrong (when I suspect the conductor has pretty much seen every attempt to scam the system). Maybe if the young lad had come clean and said he didn’t have any money but he needed to get home and asked for other passengers to contribute some coin towards his ticket, he would have been much further ahead (and probably on his way home!!). Instead he used his sense of entitlement and got nowhere!
This should be sent to mayor moonbeam in Vancouver with a paragraph on the back explaining what he and his looser bunch should have done with the mess at the art gallery. (is the Alice reference to vague?)
@FREE. The message would be completely lost on moonbeam because he is a well known transit fare evader (theif) himself.
Sadly the kid will sue the passanger, Scotrail and the conductor.
Once in the justice system you enter Alice in Woderland.
Could you appeal to natural justice in this case?
As crowd reaction showed the normal human reaction to parasites. Especially foulmouthed “bawbags” (love that phrase)
Susan can suck one…..
EP that was uncalled for as Susan neatly qualified her statement and it rings as very reasonable.
I can see Susan’s point of view that “sometimes” kindness and understanding can go a long way, unfortunately this young man did everything to alienate pretty well everyone that would be inclined to help.
Ask any Scotsman (or woman) and you will be told quite frankly that the language (abusive) and attitude of Scot’s youth is pathetic. When I visited last I was shocked to hear what passes as ‘conversational’ English. Kids of 4 regularly drop the f-bomb and it’s pervasive EVERYWHERE. I even had a pub manager appologise to us at our table for the language we couldn’t help but overhear. He explained that there was nothing he could do about it because Scottish society had accepted that type of conduct as it was now the ‘new normal’. North, south, east, west… it was all the same. I was shocked and disappointed for what lay ahead for Scottish society.
My elderly relatives said if a person was to intervene and complain, that person would more than likely be stabbed… as was a conductor who confronted 2 other teens with no tickets elsewhere on the Scotsrail system around the same time as this incident.
Lowering standards of conduct has NOT helped the UK in ANY way… now it’s come back to haunt them! So sad too bad!!
If you want to read more on the level and acceptance of rude language, including how UK youth use it as ‘conversational English’, I would recommend this news story http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/jennymccartney/8962863/The-Big-Mans-actions-were-just-deserts-for-a-foul-mouth.html
Yeah, that ex policeman was a jerk. He sounded just like the pansy administrators in our public school systemsâand our police. When school behaviour codes and actual LAWS are broken by the lowest common denominator, these impostors shirk their duty to their constituenciesâdecent, law-abiding citizensâand turn a blind eye. What theyâre really saying to the rest of us is, âRule of law? Forgeddabout it.â What scum.
And BRAVO to that fine citizen who made sure the train would get the other passengers to where they needed to go, more or less on time. Isnât that one of the main points? What ârightâ does that young punk have to âoccupyâ the train, illegally, while holding hundreds of others hostage? No one on the TV show mentioned that. I wonder, do the ticket takers have the right to turf someone off? If not, they should.
If the decent citizens of the West don’t start pushing the bullies back, we’ll be saying hello to a whole new, dark age of slavery.
Gotta love a good Scottish accent!
Had this happened in toronto, it’d be Rob Ford’s fault for not building more basketball courts for the punk
mhb23re
at gmail d0t calm
The interviewed cop is union rules bound in his thinking. You see, protecting the general public from fraud and violence is the cops’ job. We infringe on their contract rights when we do the job ourselves.
I know a bunch of cops, mostly retired, and before PC had reached the manic stage we’re in now. To my question: “Should I have a gun to protect my family” they invariably answer in the negative. It’s turf, jurisdictional thing.
Me No Dhimmi:
As a retired RCMP officer, having been involved in investigation of serious criminal offences for nearly 30 years (I skipped the uniform and traffic duties), my response to your question as to whether you should have a gun to protect your family is a resounding “YES”.
I, more than most, I suppose, have seen what is going on in our society. As a result, I have armed myself. Not for me, but to protect my family.
Those who expect that the police are going to be able to pespond quickly to emergent situations are wrong. The resources are just not there. It is not that the police don’t care, it is just that they cannot possibly accomodate all emergent requests.
After I retired I recognized this and armed myself. I am not a gun-toting, wild-eyed survivalist…I am highly educated, was a fairly senior officer in the RCMP, and I chose to arm myself to protect my family.
I suggest you do the same.
Like Bruce said, when seconds count the cops are only moments away!