Coynespeak for “recognizing a problem and voicing it.”
40 Replies to ““Sinister, But Right””
I wonder how much Strombolopolous is paid to provide an alert to switch to CTV News? Boy does he suck. Ron McLean got $600,000 for 3 minutes a week. Any bets Strombo makes more than a mill.
The only thing sinister here is Coyne’s switch to the lib-dipper alliance.
I honestly don’t even know what the hell he’s trying to say. He wants to take us to the prom even though we’re ugly?
Pick a side, Coyne. Heads or tails? (That’s a play on words and junk.)
I think he’s saying, “Don’t shoot the messenger.” The problem is in assuming a tri-partite cabal where none has been proven to exist.
Black Mamba, LOL! Andrew Coyne wrestles with his demons in print.
chutzy – he’s like Gollum. Kind of of an inlaw of Trudeau’s… Canadian establishment incest… precious… – but not a complete moron, has some principles… heads, tails…
The flaw in coyne’s column is that he continues to take it as written that the government should subsidize a public-owned broadcaster.
The first question to be asked is: “do we need one at all?”
If the answer is “yes”, then the next question is “what would it do?”
Perhaps there is a use for one – one to report maritime navigation hazards, public road traffic and other problems, the weather forecast, what’s happening in parliament and similar government domain activities. But there is no reason for little house on the prairie, HNIC and other entertainment items to gov’t funded and channelled.
Almost 900 words about the CBC and not a mention of “treasonous, champagne socialist extremist scumbags” !?
What gives?
Maybe Andrew was hit on the head with a gubmint union hung overhead klieg light when he sat in on one of their panels of commies, socialists, and leftards?
Cut my taxes and Fire Them All.
I know, I know! The CBC is the new Jews. (That’s the ticket.)
Coynes endorsement of the second incarnation of the sedition coalition Liberals last elections tells you everything you need to know about him.
Chantal Heberts endorsement of the other sedition member – the NDP in QC – says the same about her.
I’d like to know what the CBC pays each of these professional propagandists each year.
Any bets Strombo makes more than a mill.
Posted by: Scar at December 6, 2011 2:34 PM
If that’s the case then Strumminghisdickforus
should supply his own pigs-in-a-blanket and a case of 2-4 when he launches his new season instead of the Canadian taxpayers picking up the tab.
Slater, you have a lot to learn. Stick around here so you may be better educated.
Just in case anyone was wondering why its still not safe to subscribe to Macleans, may I present Exhibit A, Andrew Coyne.
Mr. Coyne sir you are yet another willing tool of the oppressive Left. The CBC should be shuttered because it is nothing more or less than a propaganda mill for the socialist Liberal Party of Canada and has been so my entire adult life. Probably longer.
Black Mamba said: “I honestly don’t even know what the hell he’s trying to say. He wants to take us to the prom even though we’re ugly?”
…[giggle] … [snort] … BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!
That’s freakin’ priceless!
In the Macleans comments s_c_f nails it:
“The CBC has been untouchable for decades. Finally, Quebecor manages to do what countless others have failed, which is to try to bring the CBC to some small measure of accountability, and you implicate Quebecor for doing Canada a favor? You call it “sinister”? Are you out of your tree? We should be handing them a medal.” http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/12/06/why-the-cbc-should-be-more-like-hbo/
“There is an undeniably sinister quality to the apparently coordinated campaign of harassment currently under way against the CBC.”
This is a great generic column! Just change a few words and you have a tome on the relentless attacks by the vast majority of the MSM against the Conservatives!
Anyone who doubts THAT just has to check out National Newswatch on any given day. Hell today the anti-Conservative articles,as always, outnumber the pro-Conservative articles about four to one.
Andrew Coyne has dabbled in conservatism a bit,but his Liberal/liberal blood has won out in the end.
I think he’s always been slightly jealous that it was his cousin who had Trudeau’s baby.
Way to go,Ange,now we can add a few pounds of salt to everything you write as just the usual BS by the usual BS’ing crowd.
No need to take you seriously anymore.
As it exists not, the CBC is competing with private business. That’s just wrong.
As the saying goes, content is king. For a Canadian broadcaster, I would expect Canadian content.
So if we want a CBC, make it a broadcaster of Canadian content not seen elsewhere.
Sports: university football, hockey, etc. This would cost a fraction of NHL/CFL, and people would watch.
Arts: canadian symphony, ballet, theatre. Give us something uplifting, cultured. Canadian bands.
News: International only. Leave the local stuff to the private sector. Maybe do some documentataries like Fifth Estate.
No Simpsons, no Jeopardy, no Mosque on the Prairie. No Olympics, or other high-cost broadcasts.
And no Steve and Chris. Please.
Black Mamba: “Kind of of an inlaw of Trudeau’s… Canadian establishment incest”….
Thanks, I’d forgotten that high fallutin’ *connection*….:)
After reading Coyne’s column I checked the comments and a few other items on the Macleans site. I am glad that cesspool of pinko socialist leftoidism is not on my reading list. There is a blog about how public healthcare is the best thing since sliced bread. It almost made me vomit fer crying out loud. This twinkles blogger makes reference to the “Landmark” Romino report. (NDP=Send more money) If it wasn’t for Mark Styne I’d have that site blocked to prevent any accidental exposure to the claptrap at “Canada’s National News Magazine”.
Back on subject, Andrew Coyne is a hard person to figure out. One minute he states the obvious (although he does argue with himself) and the next he is drinking the koolade. I used to read him when he was out of Calgary and mostly enjoyed his work, but after a while in Ottawa I think his cheese started to slip off the cracker. That is to say, I don’t put too much importance into his opinions as they change like the proverbial wind.
The CBC needs to be let go to sink or swim on it’s own merits and cash, not on the taxpayer’s dime. The cultural experiment in social identity experiment is over. Deal with it.
Don’t close them down. Tell them no more money and they must make it on their own.
Black Mumbles
would that be 1, 2, or 3 bag ugly
Coyne’s bias come through with his words: “… hundreds of millions of dollars…”. Meh. Andrew can’t bring himself to utter the words “$1.2 Billion”.
Well, if there is no more money, they will close down, so , works for me.
I skimmed it and this caught my eye ” but to intimidate to function as a news organization “..
Yeah,good for you Andrew,then I read it slower and correctly,and oh well,more of the same.
Mr. Coyne sees this as a conspiracy,it isn’t. These are the people with the parts to say “Hey the emperor isn’t wearing any clothes”,and it isn’t a cincidence or conspiracy that they are not leftoids.
I have an idea which I think must be the best one, because it would infuriate both the right and the left (but most of all the left.)
Leave CBC’s funding as it is.
BUT: They must cease all commercial programming. That is, they must no longer broadcast any advertising or take money from ad revenue.
CBC wants to be a fully-funded public broadcaster? Fine. $1bil/year is more than adequate (ads only bring in about $300mil or so.) They’ll just have to drop all pretenses of becoming an HBO of the north, doing Hollywood-like sitcoms or dramas that are supposed to compete with commercial networks for ratings.
Once they dump that pointless and futile endeavour, they’ll find they have more than enough resources to produce all the news, analysis, educational, multicultural, scientific etc. programming that they keep claiming they want to produce but can’t because of commercial pressures.
In other words, give them exactly what they want. And let all those overpriced talking heads and manufactured celebrities choke on it.
Does Russia still subsidize Isvestia or Pravda?
If not, why are we in Canada still propping up a statist propaganda organ, especially since it is only a Liberal Party statist propaganda organ?(With friendly coverage of the NDP-when it is not threatining Liberal Interests)
Funny how the some of the Canadian media are have managed to sniff this conspiracy out while entirely missing climategate 1 and 2.
Just imagine if there was a server full of incriminating emails between Quebecor, Sun Media and key Conservatives to support their hypothesis.
“Does Russia still subsidize Isvestia or Pravda?”
Apparently not. Pravda is now a privately owned online news source,and Izvestia is privately owned by the National Media Group. I can’t find out who THEY are.
Only in Canada,you say…..
The Phantom @ 4:29, exactly.
I fear richfisher is right @ 8:11.
I used to like Andrew Coyne. Now, I think he’s an opportunistic a**hole. “Right”? No way.
That this turn-coat (if he were ever conservative) is now writing for the National Post is an ominous sign, and, for us, one step closer to cancelling our subscription
Mansbridge hypnotized him.
Didn’t Coyne just out himself as part of the “sinister” plot? First rule of sinister plots Coyne, you don’t talk about them. You failed it.
Coyne is definitely one of Canada’s best. Most of the commentators here are just hot ‘n bothered that he doesn’t endorse the CPC without question.
Now wouldn’t a libertarian be all about de-funding the CBC? BTW, I don’t give a damn about the CPC in and of itself, and I don’t think I’m the only one.
(I called Coyne Gollum. On reflection, I might go with the Batman villain Two Face, who wrestles with his split identity while flipping a coyne. But then I don’t get to picture him hissing “precioussss”, so there’s that.)
I’ve given up on Andrew-I-speak-out-of-both-sides-of-my-mouth Coyne.
He’s way too entrenched in the incestuous social and political Establishment of Canada and, obviously, still wants to be invited to the “in” parties which, if he too strenuously supported, Gawd-forbid, the Harper Conservatives, he’d have to forfeit — or be a pariah at the drinks table.
I’m really tired of the media establishment in Canada that’s tightly enmeshed with the social and political establishment. You can’t trust a word they say, as they’re busy covering their butts and defending their friends, family members, and colleagues. Coyne seems to have fallen prey to this self-defense syndrome when his job as a self-respecting journo should be to expose this rot.
Despite Coyne’s obvious dislike of the CPC Government, their popularity is soaring. Bravo PM Harper and CPC!
libertariansaresmarter (sic) writes, “Coyne is definitely one of Canada’s best [what?]. Most of the commentators here are just hot ‘n bothered that he doesn’t endorse the CPC without question.”
Assessment: Level 0. Opinions with no documentation are opinions only: anyone can spout off. Here, I’ll try: “Coyne’s definitely not one of the best. And he’s a big baby, full-of-himself, spoiled brat, who doesn’t endorse the CPC without question!” Gee, was that ever easy . . . I just quoted some idiot I’d read somewhere.
I and many others here have roundly critiqued the CPC, often. That SUN News is doing that regularly is very welcome by me and, I surmise, by most of us here. (When in minority, and even now, the Conservatives often don’t seem very conservative—or libertarian.)
I respect Andrew. He’s not afraid to stick to his principles even if he gets called naive over them. If half the folks in the government were as honest with themselves as he is, we’d actually have decent government. He’s a true fiscal conservative at heart and believes in good government, eh. Contrary to popular belief, the Tories aren’t perfect and screw up a fair bit. Harper’s expanded the size of government and government spending dramatically – some conservative. And anyone who believes Sun Media is sticking up for anything other than it’s bottom dollar is deluded. If Peladeau thought he could make a buck by slagging conservatives, you can bet he would. Listen, I’m a true blue conservative but I’ll still call the government out when it screws up. Just because your election sign is blue doesn’t mean you get an immunitity ticket from criticism.
Mark, where the heck have you been? To name only two at SUN News, Ezra and Brian have taken on the Conservatives over and over. I’m a C/conservative and am all in favour.
Re Andrew—silver spoon in his mouth: how nice to be a fiscal conservative, while keeping the conservative social agenda arms’ length. Sound economic policy is not possible in societies where anything goes. As self-discipline and self-control go down the tubes in the West, so do our economies. Go ahead and “respect” Andrew Coyne. For what? (Maybe I’ll change my mind if you can give one—just one—concrete example of Coyne “stick[ing] to his principles even if he gets called naïve . . .”)
Actually, mark, anybody who believes Sun Media OUGHT to be sticking up for anything other than its bottom dollar is an idiot. It’s called the “invisible hand”. Take time out from practising your punctuation and look it up.
Look, mark, I think we actually agree: Andrew Coyne has high and completely unrealistic ideals to which he is doggedly attached and from which he cannot be shaken by experience. We differ in that you think this means he deserves respect, and I think pretty much the opposite.
I wonder how much Strombolopolous is paid to provide an alert to switch to CTV News? Boy does he suck. Ron McLean got $600,000 for 3 minutes a week. Any bets Strombo makes more than a mill.
The only thing sinister here is Coyne’s switch to the lib-dipper alliance.
I honestly don’t even know what the hell he’s trying to say. He wants to take us to the prom even though we’re ugly?
Pick a side, Coyne. Heads or tails? (That’s a play on words and junk.)
I think he’s saying, “Don’t shoot the messenger.” The problem is in assuming a tri-partite cabal where none has been proven to exist.
Black Mamba, LOL! Andrew Coyne wrestles with his demons in print.
chutzy – he’s like Gollum. Kind of of an inlaw of Trudeau’s… Canadian establishment incest… precious… – but not a complete moron, has some principles… heads, tails…
The flaw in coyne’s column is that he continues to take it as written that the government should subsidize a public-owned broadcaster.
The first question to be asked is: “do we need one at all?”
If the answer is “yes”, then the next question is “what would it do?”
Perhaps there is a use for one – one to report maritime navigation hazards, public road traffic and other problems, the weather forecast, what’s happening in parliament and similar government domain activities. But there is no reason for little house on the prairie, HNIC and other entertainment items to gov’t funded and channelled.
Almost 900 words about the CBC and not a mention of “treasonous, champagne socialist extremist scumbags” !?
What gives?
Maybe Andrew was hit on the head with a gubmint union hung overhead klieg light when he sat in on one of their panels of commies, socialists, and leftards?
Cut my taxes and Fire Them All.
I know, I know! The CBC is the new Jews. (That’s the ticket.)
Coynes endorsement of the second incarnation of the sedition coalition Liberals last elections tells you everything you need to know about him.
Chantal Heberts endorsement of the other sedition member – the NDP in QC – says the same about her.
I’d like to know what the CBC pays each of these professional propagandists each year.
Any bets Strombo makes more than a mill.
Posted by: Scar at December 6, 2011 2:34 PM
If that’s the case then Strumminghisdickforus
should supply his own pigs-in-a-blanket and a case of 2-4 when he launches his new season instead of the Canadian taxpayers picking up the tab.
Defund the CBC, please. Buy bumper stickers for your friends and family:
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Privatize-Left-Wing-Biased-CBC-Bumper-Sticker-10-Defund-stocking-stuffers-/170739819739
Slater, you have a lot to learn. Stick around here so you may be better educated.
Just in case anyone was wondering why its still not safe to subscribe to Macleans, may I present Exhibit A, Andrew Coyne.
Mr. Coyne sir you are yet another willing tool of the oppressive Left. The CBC should be shuttered because it is nothing more or less than a propaganda mill for the socialist Liberal Party of Canada and has been so my entire adult life. Probably longer.
Black Mamba said: “I honestly don’t even know what the hell he’s trying to say. He wants to take us to the prom even though we’re ugly?”
…[giggle] … [snort] … BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!
That’s freakin’ priceless!
In the Macleans comments s_c_f nails it:
“The CBC has been untouchable for decades. Finally, Quebecor manages to do what countless others have failed, which is to try to bring the CBC to some small measure of accountability, and you implicate Quebecor for doing Canada a favor? You call it “sinister”? Are you out of your tree? We should be handing them a medal.”
http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/12/06/why-the-cbc-should-be-more-like-hbo/
“There is an undeniably sinister quality to the apparently coordinated campaign of harassment currently under way against the CBC.”
This is a great generic column! Just change a few words and you have a tome on the relentless attacks by the vast majority of the MSM against the Conservatives!
Anyone who doubts THAT just has to check out National Newswatch on any given day. Hell today the anti-Conservative articles,as always, outnumber the pro-Conservative articles about four to one.
Andrew Coyne has dabbled in conservatism a bit,but his Liberal/liberal blood has won out in the end.
I think he’s always been slightly jealous that it was his cousin who had Trudeau’s baby.
Way to go,Ange,now we can add a few pounds of salt to everything you write as just the usual BS by the usual BS’ing crowd.
No need to take you seriously anymore.
As it exists not, the CBC is competing with private business. That’s just wrong.
As the saying goes, content is king. For a Canadian broadcaster, I would expect Canadian content.
So if we want a CBC, make it a broadcaster of Canadian content not seen elsewhere.
Sports: university football, hockey, etc. This would cost a fraction of NHL/CFL, and people would watch.
Arts: canadian symphony, ballet, theatre. Give us something uplifting, cultured. Canadian bands.
News: International only. Leave the local stuff to the private sector. Maybe do some documentataries like Fifth Estate.
No Simpsons, no Jeopardy, no Mosque on the Prairie. No Olympics, or other high-cost broadcasts.
And no Steve and Chris. Please.
Black Mamba: “Kind of of an inlaw of Trudeau’s… Canadian establishment incest”….
Thanks, I’d forgotten that high fallutin’ *connection*….:)
After reading Coyne’s column I checked the comments and a few other items on the Macleans site. I am glad that cesspool of pinko socialist leftoidism is not on my reading list. There is a blog about how public healthcare is the best thing since sliced bread. It almost made me vomit fer crying out loud. This twinkles blogger makes reference to the “Landmark” Romino report. (NDP=Send more money) If it wasn’t for Mark Styne I’d have that site blocked to prevent any accidental exposure to the claptrap at “Canada’s National News Magazine”.
Back on subject, Andrew Coyne is a hard person to figure out. One minute he states the obvious (although he does argue with himself) and the next he is drinking the koolade. I used to read him when he was out of Calgary and mostly enjoyed his work, but after a while in Ottawa I think his cheese started to slip off the cracker. That is to say, I don’t put too much importance into his opinions as they change like the proverbial wind.
The CBC needs to be let go to sink or swim on it’s own merits and cash, not on the taxpayer’s dime. The cultural experiment in social identity experiment is over. Deal with it.
Don’t close them down. Tell them no more money and they must make it on their own.
Black Mumbles
would that be 1, 2, or 3 bag ugly
Coyne’s bias come through with his words: “… hundreds of millions of dollars…”. Meh. Andrew can’t bring himself to utter the words “$1.2 Billion”.
Well, if there is no more money, they will close down, so , works for me.
I skimmed it and this caught my eye ” but to intimidate to function as a news organization “..
Yeah,good for you Andrew,then I read it slower and correctly,and oh well,more of the same.
Mr. Coyne sees this as a conspiracy,it isn’t. These are the people with the parts to say “Hey the emperor isn’t wearing any clothes”,and it isn’t a cincidence or conspiracy that they are not leftoids.
I have an idea which I think must be the best one, because it would infuriate both the right and the left (but most of all the left.)
Leave CBC’s funding as it is.
BUT: They must cease all commercial programming. That is, they must no longer broadcast any advertising or take money from ad revenue.
CBC wants to be a fully-funded public broadcaster? Fine. $1bil/year is more than adequate (ads only bring in about $300mil or so.) They’ll just have to drop all pretenses of becoming an HBO of the north, doing Hollywood-like sitcoms or dramas that are supposed to compete with commercial networks for ratings.
Once they dump that pointless and futile endeavour, they’ll find they have more than enough resources to produce all the news, analysis, educational, multicultural, scientific etc. programming that they keep claiming they want to produce but can’t because of commercial pressures.
In other words, give them exactly what they want. And let all those overpriced talking heads and manufactured celebrities choke on it.
Does Russia still subsidize Isvestia or Pravda?
If not, why are we in Canada still propping up a statist propaganda organ, especially since it is only a Liberal Party statist propaganda organ?(With friendly coverage of the NDP-when it is not threatining Liberal Interests)
Funny how the some of the Canadian media are have managed to sniff this conspiracy out while entirely missing climategate 1 and 2.
Just imagine if there was a server full of incriminating emails between Quebecor, Sun Media and key Conservatives to support their hypothesis.
“Does Russia still subsidize Isvestia or Pravda?”
Apparently not. Pravda is now a privately owned online news source,and Izvestia is privately owned by the National Media Group. I can’t find out who THEY are.
Only in Canada,you say…..
The Phantom @ 4:29, exactly.
I fear richfisher is right @ 8:11.
I used to like Andrew Coyne. Now, I think he’s an opportunistic a**hole. “Right”? No way.
That this turn-coat (if he were ever conservative) is now writing for the National Post is an ominous sign, and, for us, one step closer to cancelling our subscription
Mansbridge hypnotized him.
Didn’t Coyne just out himself as part of the “sinister” plot? First rule of sinister plots Coyne, you don’t talk about them. You failed it.
Coyne is definitely one of Canada’s best. Most of the commentators here are just hot ‘n bothered that he doesn’t endorse the CPC without question.
Now wouldn’t a libertarian be all about de-funding the CBC? BTW, I don’t give a damn about the CPC in and of itself, and I don’t think I’m the only one.
(I called Coyne Gollum. On reflection, I might go with the Batman villain Two Face, who wrestles with his split identity while flipping a coyne. But then I don’t get to picture him hissing “precioussss”, so there’s that.)
I’ve given up on Andrew-I-speak-out-of-both-sides-of-my-mouth Coyne.
He’s way too entrenched in the incestuous social and political Establishment of Canada and, obviously, still wants to be invited to the “in” parties which, if he too strenuously supported, Gawd-forbid, the Harper Conservatives, he’d have to forfeit — or be a pariah at the drinks table.
I’m really tired of the media establishment in Canada that’s tightly enmeshed with the social and political establishment. You can’t trust a word they say, as they’re busy covering their butts and defending their friends, family members, and colleagues. Coyne seems to have fallen prey to this self-defense syndrome when his job as a self-respecting journo should be to expose this rot.
Despite Coyne’s obvious dislike of the CPC Government, their popularity is soaring. Bravo PM Harper and CPC!
libertariansaresmarter (sic) writes, “Coyne is definitely one of Canada’s best [what?]. Most of the commentators here are just hot ‘n bothered that he doesn’t endorse the CPC without question.”
Assessment: Level 0. Opinions with no documentation are opinions only: anyone can spout off. Here, I’ll try: “Coyne’s definitely not one of the best. And he’s a big baby, full-of-himself, spoiled brat, who doesn’t endorse the CPC without question!” Gee, was that ever easy . . . I just quoted some idiot I’d read somewhere.
I and many others here have roundly critiqued the CPC, often. That SUN News is doing that regularly is very welcome by me and, I surmise, by most of us here. (When in minority, and even now, the Conservatives often don’t seem very conservative—or libertarian.)
I respect Andrew. He’s not afraid to stick to his principles even if he gets called naive over them. If half the folks in the government were as honest with themselves as he is, we’d actually have decent government. He’s a true fiscal conservative at heart and believes in good government, eh. Contrary to popular belief, the Tories aren’t perfect and screw up a fair bit. Harper’s expanded the size of government and government spending dramatically – some conservative. And anyone who believes Sun Media is sticking up for anything other than it’s bottom dollar is deluded. If Peladeau thought he could make a buck by slagging conservatives, you can bet he would. Listen, I’m a true blue conservative but I’ll still call the government out when it screws up. Just because your election sign is blue doesn’t mean you get an immunitity ticket from criticism.
Mark, where the heck have you been? To name only two at SUN News, Ezra and Brian have taken on the Conservatives over and over. I’m a C/conservative and am all in favour.
Re Andrew—silver spoon in his mouth: how nice to be a fiscal conservative, while keeping the conservative social agenda arms’ length. Sound economic policy is not possible in societies where anything goes. As self-discipline and self-control go down the tubes in the West, so do our economies. Go ahead and “respect” Andrew Coyne. For what? (Maybe I’ll change my mind if you can give one—just one—concrete example of Coyne “stick[ing] to his principles even if he gets called naïve . . .”)
Actually, mark, anybody who believes Sun Media OUGHT to be sticking up for anything other than its bottom dollar is an idiot. It’s called the “invisible hand”. Take time out from practising your punctuation and look it up.
Look, mark, I think we actually agree: Andrew Coyne has high and completely unrealistic ideals to which he is doggedly attached and from which he cannot be shaken by experience. We differ in that you think this means he deserves respect, and I think pretty much the opposite.