Currently public emails show Mann was unable to provide even his close colleagues data he used in some of his papers and could not remember which data sets he used. A query to UVA shows the university, who owns “the data and notebooks resulting from sponsored research,” had no copy of Mann’s logbooks and never gave him permission to take them with him when he left UVA. The university refused to inquire within Mann’s department as to whether anyone there knew whether he even kept a research logbook, so it’s impossible for me to know whether he stole the logbook or just never prepared one in the first place.
Emphasis mine.
h/t Maz2
Ah, the climate mongers. The proverbial marketplace merchants with their thumbs on the scales.
Time to chop off some thumbs.
One of the better smackdowns out there about this. Concise and directs the argument away from the attempts at obfuscation and distraction.
It doesn’t seem like they can win, based on what keeps getting said about US FOI laws, and I don’t know what they hope to gain with the delay, but it sure seems like they’re wasting a lot of money fighting this.
Another ‘climate change’ story you won’t see on CBC.
If you were a scientist who thought you had information that might change the world, wouldn’t you want to PROVE it? With every bit of data double-checked and available to sympathizers and doubters alike?
Or, if you were intent on changing the world, would you try to take something that was nebulous or ephemeral, that might have significant consequences and make as convincing case as possible that immediate action was required to prevent disaster? If your case couldn’t stand a lot of close scrutiny, you could defend it by stonewalling and diversion.
“The Dog Ate My Tree Rings” – Steyn
He might think it is funny to hide the decline in his data & graphs but he is going to have a really fun time trying to hide the decline in his career and reputation.
What a fool.
Tom T from the comments- “At this point I think that being cleared by Penn State is about the same as being found guilty by normal people.”
From the article:
“This week Nature Magazine published an editorial suggesting that “access to personal correspondence is a freedom too far” and that Michael Mann, whom they favorably compare to Galileo,..”
Galileo?! That’s funny. More like Joseph Smith and his secret golden plates from God.
From Wiki:
“Smith said he found the plates on September 22, 1823 at a hill near his home in Manchester, New York after an angel directed him to a buried stone box…Though he allowed others to heft the box, he said that the angel had forbidden him to show the plates to anyone until they had been translated from their original “reformed Egyptian” language. Smith dictated a translation using a seer stone in the bottom of a hat, which he placed over his face to view the words written within the stone.[3] Smith published the translation in 1830 as the Book of Mormon.
Smith eventually obtained testimonies from eleven men, known as the Book of Mormon witnesses, who said they had seen the plates.[4] After the translation was complete, Smith said he returned the plates to their angelic guardian. Therefore, if the plates existed, they cannot now be examined. Latter Day Saints believe the account of the golden plates as a matter of faith.”
BTW, I’ve discovered that the UN has Smith’s golden plates, Kevin Trenberth’s “missing heat” and Mann’s mysterious laboratory logbooks. Unfortunately, I have misplaced the proof so you’ll just have to trust me.
Y’know even people in industrial chemistry labs have to maintain data and be able to produce it if requested. With all the billions invested in climate change research, you’d think they would be even more sophisticated with their data handling capabilities.
It becomes harder every day to cover up a lie.
If you don’t keep a logbook, then it cannot in any way be considered science.
The “dog ate my homework” might work in grade 1, but at university research level…you get shot down in flames. Rat a tat tat this puppy is dead.
If your theory and observations aren’t repeatable they are worthless.
Cheers
Hans Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North”
Lysenko is alive and well within the institutional left.
But it’s peer reviewed. Peer reviewed I tell you!!
In keeping with the Joseph Smith analogy, maybe Michael Mann will have to recreate the data using a different seer stone…
Sometime ago while people were trying to get (through FOIA requests) the CRU data I posted a snarky comment to the effect that there wasn’t really any data, that the guys at CRU had bought up all the surplus sets from old British Sci-Fi TV series and a bunch of surplus lab coats and the whole thing was like a movie set. For, obviously, the grant money. Little did I know.
If you were a scientist who thought you had information that might change the world, wouldn’t you want to PROVE it?
~Sexton Beetle
If the issue was about proof skeptics would have won this war long ago.
It becomes harder every day to cover up a lie.
~a@c
Not really.
See Obama, Barack: U.S. President
When the MSM is on your side and has a vested interest in propagating the lie, the lie dies hard.
“We have top men working on it right now!”
“Who?”
“Top…men!”
“If it isn’t written down…it never happened.”
Tom Clancy
Penn State thinks that covering up Mann’s incompetence by saying it’s Penn State business as usual can only lead one to believe that their standard of research is well below that of other schools. Then they cover up the suspected buggering of youngsters left in their care. Some school they’ve got going there. The child abuse will cost them millions, but when are they going to start paying back grants for fake research.
Re Scar: the inquiry into Michael Mann’s conduct
cleared him of misconduct. I was not impressed by the makeup of the board of inquiry.
Had it included my friend and colleague, a Professor Emeritus in Physics at PSU and an honest as well as able physicist,
I would have trusted it. As it was, it seemed just another Spanier operation.
My PSU friend, by the way, has written a letter to the Bellefonte newspaper arguing that Spanier should be indicted.
Even if the finding of an absence of academic misconduct is valid, which I doubt, it does not in any way prove competence.
An honest researcher can be a bungler, and some are. An honest researcher can be competent but unlucky, and that is a misfortune which strikes most researchers sooner or later.
Graham Spanier has much to answer for in connection with the Sandusky affair.
He also has much to answer for in regard to his budgetary incontinence, which has taken a university which was fiscally solid in 1998 to a fiscal basket case now, with a debt of $1 billion.
Appointing a committee of lightweights to review Michael Mann’s work is just one more “feather” in his cap.
Apparently Spanier was gone Nov 9, 2011.
If Mann did not conduct science, and I am of the opinion that AGW is NOT science, it is not possible to find scientific documentation…
Mann’s research was a fraud, why is anyone surprised?
In keeping with the Joseph Smith analogy: Someone’s talking through his hat.
O’bambam.
“Barack Obama and Julia Gillard are close
Photo: REUTERS”
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02052/obama-gillard_2052993c.jpg
O’O
That’s for rtips.
Or, O&J are shmoozing ’bout Big Julie’s carbon taxes.
This is Climatology,s Cold fusion moment .
Michael Mann turns weather into a political statement.
Damn, I would LOVE to be a fly on the wall during the examination for discovery of ‘Dr’ Mann in the defamation lawysuit he has started in British Columbia.
I can see a couple of HOURS of interesting questions concerning the *exact* datasets which were in which paper, and who *owns* those datasets, and especially *why* any scientist should trust the results *when there is no data*.
Just wow!
And the discovery rules *require* that he provide an explanation for why any relevant documents are no longer in his possession, power or control. (And since UVa appears not to have possession, the strong implication is that he took them with him…)
Nothing will deter the followers of Gore/Suzuki. Brainwashing is such a difficult thing to undo. Not to mention politicians have discovered you can tax the people on absolutely nothing. Carbon. You think they will admit to this scam without a fight ?. Not a chance.
That’s one way of settling science.
Or did they say silencing science? The audio is as good as Nixon’s missing 18 minutes.
My daughter can’t get her PhD without more than this clown has. Give him his Bellesiles Prize and send him on his way.